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Articles on Folkopedia

johnadams 28 Jun 08 - 12:54 PM
Steve Gardham 28 Jun 08 - 03:11 PM
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johnadams 28 Jun 08 - 07:33 PM
Barry Finn 28 Jun 08 - 11:49 PM
Azizi 29 Jun 08 - 10:57 AM
johnadams 29 Jun 08 - 12:20 PM
Malcolm Douglas 29 Jun 08 - 12:38 PM
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Subject: Articles on Folkopedia
From: johnadams
Date: 28 Jun 08 - 12:54 PM

For anyone who's interested, I've recently, with permissions from the authors, put up a few extracts from old copies of English Dance and Song on the Folkopedia site.

John Howson's 1982 interview with Suffolk musician and singer Fred 'Pip' Whiting.


A 1982 obit for Suffolk singer Percy Ling


A short piece on Apple Howling at Henfield, Sussex

Song The Christmas Goose as sung by Arthur Howard of the Holme Valley Beagles


Some May Day reminiscences from Henry Burstow of Kent (1911)


Ian Russell's 1984 interview with the Holme Valley Tradition

I hope all the links work.


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Subject: RE: Articles on Folkopedia
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 28 Jun 08 - 03:11 PM

John,
If you like why don't you include a hyperlink from 'Christmas Goose' and 'Holme Valley Tradition' to the Yorkshire Garland website where they can listen to the songs?

Steve


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Subject: RE: Articles on Folkopedia
From: johnadams
Date: 28 Jun 08 - 03:22 PM

Will do. Could you save me a bit of surfing time and send me the urls?

Cheers,

J


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Subject: RE: Articles on Folkopedia
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 28 Jun 08 - 07:07 PM

John
Christmas Goose url I think
http://www.yorkshirefolksong.net/song_database/Humour/The_Christmas_Goose.4.aspx
For the HVB tracks (about 8-9) easier to just advise go to the website and search for songs sung by Will Noble.

Cheers,
Steve


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Subject: RE: Articles on Folkopedia
From: johnadams
Date: 28 Jun 08 - 07:33 PM

The Christmas Goose is sorted!

Listen via this link.

Will Noble is a worthy successor to Arthur Howard - recommended listening!


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Subject: RE: Articles on Folkopedia
From: Barry Finn
Date: 28 Jun 08 - 11:49 PM

Thanks johnadams, what a delightful treat.

Barry


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Subject: RE: Articles on Folkopedia
From: Azizi
Date: 29 Jun 08 - 10:57 AM

Johnadamas, thank you for posting those articles.

I found the article that I read-the one on May Day remembrances-to be very interested. However, I've a question about the hyperlinks within that article. I clicked on the words within that article that were hyperlinked because I was seeking more information about those terms. However, the hyperlink took me to an edit page and not a page that provided more information.

For instance, take this passage:

"Old Mrs Smallwood who lived in a quaint old cottage in the Bishopric, always used to go round on May Day with an immense garland drawn on a trolley by two or three boys. On the top of her garland she used to mount her little model cow, indicative of her trade - milk selling. Gaily dressed up herself in bows and ribbons, she used to take her garland around the town, call upon all the principal residents and tradespeople, to whom she was well known, and get well patronised".

In that passage, the first use of "garland" is hyperlinked. But what does "garland" mean in that context? Does it mean a flower decorated pillar?


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Subject: RE: Articles on Folkopedia
From: johnadams
Date: 29 Jun 08 - 12:20 PM

Aziz,

Thanks for the comments.

The site is a Wiki, using the same software as Wikipedia. When a hyperlink is highlighted in red, that means that the person who put the page up thinks that there should be a new page behind that hyperlink, but hasn't put the information in.

If someone then clicks the red link, gets the edit page and puts the information in, when saved the link goes blue and signifies that there is information behind that link.

As Folkopedia is new (12 months) there are still a lot of red links waiting for knowledgeable people to fill in some information.

With respect to 'Garland' - when that section is filled in there will be several definitions. A garland is usually something made of or decorated with flowers, so yes, you're right, it will have been a pillar or basket or wicker cage or similar. Here at home we have a small reproduction of a 'Sailor's Garland' which would have been made to mark the passing/drowning of a sailor or fisherman - a wicker cage in the shape of a buoy, decorated with flowers and with a bell hanging inside.

Maiden's Garlands were made when a young girl died a virgin, and these apparently often had gloves with them. There are several still around but the only one I've ever seen is the one in Trusley Church near Derby.

Then there are Garland dances - as seen with the Bacup Coconut Dancers in Lancashire or some Morris sides.

There are more that I can't bring to mind......


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Subject: RE: Articles on Folkopedia
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 29 Jun 08 - 12:38 PM

Castleton Garland is particularly well known. Many references on the web; recent photos at http://www.derbyshire-photographs.co.uk/castleton_garland_day.html

Incidentally, I've added links from page references in the main Burstow (Sussex, not Kent!) article to the appropriate pages in the online transcription of his Reminiscences, and from the extract linked to above.


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Subject: RE: Articles on Folkopedia
From: johnadams
Date: 29 Jun 08 - 12:51 PM

Thanks Malcolm. I don't know how the Sussex/Kent border creep has happened - that's the second correction today!

I really must get to Castleton Garland one year.

And thanks for the Henry Burstow link. That's another evening of reading!

J


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Subject: RE: Articles on Folkopedia
From: Azizi
Date: 29 Jun 08 - 01:10 PM

Thanks for that information about wikipedia and about garlands, johnadams.

And thanks for posting that link, Malcolm Douglas.


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