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Subject: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: SINSULL Date: 19 Sep 06 - 09:10 PM Why do I keep getting this message? AAARRRRGH! |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Midchuck Date: 19 Sep 06 - 09:19 PM One guesses that Max is working on the system, and has to turn it, or portions of it, on and off as he works. There's been very little down time in the last few months. You're spoiled, Sins. We all are. Peter. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST,Jon Date: 19 Sep 06 - 09:21 PM It's been getting worse all day. My guess is the server is running out of memory or some resource and that with a reboot it will run happily for another few weeks. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: bobad Date: 19 Sep 06 - 09:30 PM So would it kill someone to let us know what's up already? |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST,Jon Date: 19 Sep 06 - 09:33 PM One guesses that Max is working on the system, and has to turn it, or portions of it, on and off as he works. Given that it is currently available one second and not the next, it's hard to imagine anyone would have time to make a change (and perhaps observe the effect) in between placing the system on and off. Also, as I noted before, the pattern seems consistant with a condition deteriorating. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: wysiwyg Date: 19 Sep 06 - 10:20 PM As I described in the Help forum, this condition resolves (today) most times, with just a simple refresh (or two or three). I hope they will tell us why this is happening, but it isn't really as "down" when you get that as you might think it is. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Amos Date: 19 Sep 06 - 10:45 PM It's a timing issue, but as Suzie Q says above, hit the Refresh button until it catches the wave. A |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca Date: 19 Sep 06 - 10:57 PM bobad if there were someone there actually taking it down they probably would. PLEASE be patient. It only take a second to press the [Refresh] button once or twice. Thanks for being patient with the hiccups that occur from time to time. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST,Jon Date: 19 Sep 06 - 11:02 PM Well the temporary overloading of this is what I would go for: "10.5.4 503 Service Unavailable The server is currently unable to handle the request due to a temporary overloading or maintenance of the server. The implication is that this is a temporary condition which will be alleviated after some delay. If known, the length of the delay MAY be indicated in a Retry-After header. If no Retry-After is given, the client SHOULD handle the response as it would for a 500 response. Note: The existence of the 503 status code does not imply that a server must use it when becoming overloaded. Some servers may wish to simply refuse the connection." I just think it is getting overloaded more frequently for some reason which I guess is a resource becoming shorter in supply, eg. a memory leak in the system is starting to affect things. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: wysiwyg Date: 19 Sep 06 - 11:06 PM There are now four threads on this, three of them in the Help forum (where it should be). ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: JennyO Date: 19 Sep 06 - 11:10 PM This happened a few weeks ago (17th August, according to a thread on the Help Forum). It was only like that for a day or two last time, and It is noticeably deteriorating now like last time. My guess is the server is running out of memory or some resource and that with a reboot it will run happily for another few weeks. I'd say Jon is spot on with that guess. It would be my guess too. As some have said, we really are spoilt these days - this is nothing compared to the trouble we used to have! Jenny (off to potter in the garden) |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Stilly River Sage Date: 20 Sep 06 - 12:43 AM Reminds me, I haven't sent any money to Mudcat for a while. . . SRS |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Paul Burke Date: 20 Sep 06 - 03:56 AM The answer is in the thread "I don't look good naked anymore". Joe has been deleting spam attacks. Simple as that. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST Date: 20 Sep 06 - 05:21 AM Mudcat gets spammed daily. I doubt if we will see the 503 for another month. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Joe Offer Date: 20 Sep 06 - 05:32 AM You and I don't look good naked anymore, Paul - but I doubt that's the reason for the 503 messages. All I found was one Spam message. Most likely, the 503 messages were caused by a glitch....or a gremlin. Those are technical terms - they mean more-or-less the same thing. Aren't you glad you asked? -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: kendall Date: 20 Sep 06 - 06:45 AM I'm much more concerned about Dick Cheney coming here at our expense in Airforce one for no other reason than to raise money for the republicans. I'd hate to have his nerve in a tooth. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: SINSULL Date: 20 Sep 06 - 05:24 PM Thanks all. I had just installed a Norton Anti-Virus Update and was afraid it was causing problems. It has done some interesting things to my system. Susan - another of your "rules"? There is a title option in the creating a new thread which is TECH. I used it. If it's a problem for you, don't open the thread. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Clinton Hammond Date: 20 Sep 06 - 05:25 PM Norton is a virus all on it's own, but it's not causing the flood of 503 erros at mudcat..... |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: wysiwyg Date: 20 Sep 06 - 05:33 PM Screw you, Sinsull. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: SINSULL Date: 20 Sep 06 - 05:40 PM Actually, one of the messages said that the server was down for updates. Once Norton was updated, I kept getting a simple error message. Now if I can only figure out why Norton keeps logging me out of every website I visit. Sigh. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Clinton Hammond Date: 20 Sep 06 - 05:42 PM Cause Norton is a total piece of garbage.... |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Joe Offer Date: 20 Sep 06 - 05:46 PM Yeah, I didn't know about that rule either. Can't say I really know how to define what the difference between help and the regular forum, except that in general, music and BS should NOT be posted on the Help Forum unless the main forum is down. I guess I'd say if SINSULL wanted to report the 503 message, she should report in in the Help Forum. If she wants to express frustration with the 503 message, sh can do it where she wants. Oh, and in general, the Help Forum is for handling problems, not for goofing around. We don't mind a little humor there, and it's open for conversation when the main Forum is down; but certain people get out of hand there. The Help Forum is supposed to be a place where people can post their tech problems when they need help from a moderator. We moderators monitor the Help Forum so we can deal with those problems. It's a burden on us if we have to sort through a bunch of dumb one-liners to find the people who really need help. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: SINSULL Date: 20 Sep 06 - 05:49 PM Screw you, Joe Offer. heh heh |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Jeri Date: 20 Sep 06 - 05:53 PM Maybe Norton thinks the cookies are tracking cookies. There must be some setting you can change. Personally, I found the best way to fix problems with Norton was to un-install it and get a quality antivirus that doesn't include the automatic fart extractor. I actually agree with Clinton. Norton sucks, |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: JohnInKansas Date: 20 Sep 06 - 06:38 PM Sinsull and Clinton - It is unlikely that Norton is "logging me out of every website I visit." Unless you have one of the "advanced" Norton options, Norton doesn't care about cookies unless they contain viral stuff. Updates to Windows, in both Win2K and WinXP have changed the definitions of the security levels in your browser. The same changes may apply to other (obsolete) Windows versions if you've updated IE itself. The "Internet" security level commonly used in IE is now much more restrictive of what default actions are permitted. If you have NOT RTFM, it may have escaped your notice that web sites without a "security certificate" may be allowed to place a temporary cookie on your machine that will be deleted when the visit is ended. You must generally enter the name of any "uncertificated" site into your browser settings to allow a "permanent" cookie. (Mudcat has no certificate, unless it's changed recently.) In IE, click "Tools | Internet Options," click the "Privacy" tab and then the button labelled "Sites." Type "mudcate.org" (no quotes), or the addy of whatever site you want to allow permanent cookies for, in the "Address" block, and then click "Allow." Other browsers should have similar settings. John |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: SINSULL Date: 20 Sep 06 - 06:53 PM Thanks, John. I will do it before I shut down tonight and see if things improve. Mary |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: catspaw49 Date: 20 Sep 06 - 06:57 PM Screw you John, I don't really give two shits but I kinda' like to keep that crap going............... Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Jeri Date: 20 Sep 06 - 07:01 PM Screw you, Spaw, you bitch. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 20 Sep 06 - 07:04 PM That's what I like, a nice friendly... |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: catspaw49 Date: 20 Sep 06 - 07:06 PM Screw you Fool, you broke-dick mamalucca...... Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 20 Sep 06 - 07:10 PM I wave my leg in the air at you... Phzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt! |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Seamus Kennedy Date: 20 Sep 06 - 07:12 PM Screw all of you! Get a life! When the 'Cat is down, do something productive; go for a walk, learn a song, cop a few guitar licks off records, bake a cake, drink a bottle of whiskey, neuter a badger, spay a weasel...anything! Me, I had weasel ovaries and badger balls on toast for dinner. Seamus |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: catspaw49 Date: 20 Sep 06 - 07:14 PM Well geeziz......That's just disgusting! I don't want to play anymore....You've ruined the game..................fockindick..................... Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: JohnInKansas Date: 20 Sep 06 - 07:14 PM I certainly must thank Spaw for his most kind offer. It's one of the better (in fact one of very few) such I've received recently. Having seen his picture numerous times, and after reviewing various memorabilia relating to his habits and proclivities, it is apparent that every available orifice which he might offer is far too riddled with crud, crap, and other unfavorable crudescences to elicit a favorable response to the offer at this time. I will, however, promise to "blow him one" at the next opportunity. Of course, had the meddling old fool not responded so promptly, I might have been the recipient of the much more interesting offer from Jeri. Damned meddlin' ol' bugger. John |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST,Cleigh O'Possum Date: 20 Sep 06 - 07:17 PM Then Blow Me. You can you know! Cleigh |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: wysiwyg Date: 20 Sep 06 - 07:17 PM Spaw has no stomach. Screw Seamus---??? hm, don't tell Hardi.... ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Jeri Date: 20 Sep 06 - 07:45 PM John, I'm flattered! Screw you! And the horse you rode in on! No, wait... I think I'm channelling Catherine the Great. Forget the horse. I figure that after the civilization-destroying fiery cataclysm, I'll be sitting around reminiscing about the 'good old days' with the cockroaches, and John in K will be getting the LAN up and teaching the roaches how to defrag. I had a root canal today. It was a nice diversion from some of the threads around here. Seriously, though, I hope never to have Norton on another computer. I think it's probably best for people on LANs or those who have an IT office they can call to debugger it or call Norton when the year subscription expires after two months and ALL you probably have to do is uninstall it then reinstall it and input the secret code found in the box in the middle of the maze in that 'Demon Spawn: Norton, the Game' game you have to buy for only $375.00 more. Seamus,... Seamus, oh fer... ...jeeze |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST Date: 20 Sep 06 - 07:46 PM I think I'm going to throw up |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Jeri Date: 20 Sep 06 - 07:50 PM Oh, and I got a load of 503's yesterday, but not one today. I wonder if it's a memory thing or a pipeline thing or what. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST,CLETUS HARDDINGER Date: 20 Sep 06 - 07:54 PM Waal, I gotcher pipeline rite heer Miz Jeri but iffen yer talkin bout roots, I got me a reel goodun.....Y'all wanna' see? CLETUS |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Seamus Kennedy Date: 20 Sep 06 - 07:58 PM I was going to have weasel ovaries and badger balls on toast again tonight, but there wasn't a piece of bread in the house. Seamus |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: wysiwyg Date: 20 Sep 06 - 07:59 PM You have them on BREAD? ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST,Jon Date: 20 Sep 06 - 08:49 PM Something may have been lost between all this screwing and mention of Norton. 503 has nothing to do with Norton, or anything you have on your computer. To get the 503, you computer has connected to the Mudcat server and the Mudcat server has responded telling you it can not perform your request and made an (OK somewhat cryptic and perhaps misleading - but hey, it's a computer..) attempt at letting you know why it can't. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: catspaw49 Date: 20 Sep 06 - 08:57 PM POSTED ON BEHALF OF "THE LITTLE PISSANT"
Screw you Jon. Or piss on ya'. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: JohnInKansas Date: 20 Sep 06 - 09:02 PM Most of the recent messages I've gotten have said "the server has been placed offline by the operator." The offline incidents have been very brief, and would be consistent with what I'd expect if "the operator" just needed to copy a new (edited?) file to the server drive(s) or extract one to work on offline. I just assumed somebody was doing maintenance and/or working at fixing some of the remaining bugs from the last big 'n. In a couple of incidents when I did NOT get an error message, the front page failed to load all the little bits and pieces, but after the next interruption everything was back to normal. Of course, the "incidents" always seem to happen when I hit "Submit;" and of course "Back" doesn't work when the server is shut down; but I try to avoid taking it personally.... John |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST,Jon Date: 20 Sep 06 - 09:09 PM But spaw, we don't do pissed the same way as you. We can both just be pissed but I could be merry at the same time. So (pissed) up yours ;-) |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 20 Sep 06 - 09:13 PM Pretty Kewl to watch as the Bagle morphs into Beagle and all those mailings like vms169119.mailsrvcs.net find active servers to spill into.
Sincerely,
Innoculate, Isolate, Elliminate the Ingnorant |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Mr Happy Date: 20 Sep 06 - 09:14 PM ditto!! |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST,Jon Date: 20 Sep 06 - 09:23 PM Most of the recent messages I've gotten have said "the server has been placed offline by the operator." The offline incidents have been very brief, and would be consistent with what I'd expect if "the operator" just needed to copy a new (edited?) file to the server drive(s) or extract one to work on offline. Totaly incosnistant IMO. John. Unless you know a human capable of analysing what needs to be done, making the decision, and performing those action within intervals of less than a second and maintaining that process for several hours (having started from a point where I first saw it this time round 10am that day when it was running at about 1 per 30 minutes and built up in pace from there over the day). |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST Date: 20 Sep 06 - 09:26 PM (maintaining that process every second or so) |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: SINSULL Date: 20 Sep 06 - 09:52 PM WOW! Has someone in my thread been given The Golden Shower Award? Long time no see. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST,Jon Date: 20 Sep 06 - 09:57 PM So that was what the link was Sinsull? One good reason for not posting as a member I guess - it only works for poeple logged on... |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Clinton Hammond Date: 23 Sep 06 - 10:09 AM 503 error continues |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST,Jon Date: 23 Sep 06 - 10:13 AM Doesn't seem to fit into my previous thoughts this time round with it coming back so quickly and as far as I've been aware being so bad so soon - I've seen the other rounds start with maybe me hitting one every 1/2 hr to start with. Oh well... |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: wysiwyg Date: 23 Sep 06 - 10:35 AM Look, the point of putting info about this in the HELP FORUM is that Help is ALWAYS likelier to be up, when there's a problem, than a forum thread. Get it? ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Jeri Date: 23 Sep 06 - 11:00 AM No, it's not more likely to be up. They're on the same server. Is this really worth the bad blood to chastise someone for something you don't think they should do? The post crossovers don't matter. The petty bickering over control issues does. IMO. I'm getting more 503's than I ever have, and if I try to open the thread in Help, it's going to take another 15 minutes, and it's not worth it. I'm here now. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: catspaw49 Date: 23 Sep 06 - 11:37 AM Bite me Jeri ........Had to be said...........Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: wysiwyg Date: 23 Sep 06 - 11:49 AM They're on the same server. Right, the FAQ is a pack of lies. But don't bite me, Jer. :~) ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST,Jon Date: 23 Sep 06 - 11:58 AM FAQ is wrong at the moment Susan. www and help are running on the same server. In terms of other things, as far as I know they use different databases (one on MS SQL server and help using access) but that's about it so there could be a circumastance where MC database is down and help would work but I think that's about it. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: JennyO Date: 23 Sep 06 - 12:07 PM Yes, this 503 error is happening on the Help forum too, so in this particular case, it makes just as much sense to post here as on the Help Forum. As Jon said, they are both on the same server - didn't use to be, but they are now. And yeah, Jon, so much for the theories eh? I thought you had it sussed. Oh well, back to the drawing board... |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Cruiser Date: 23 Sep 06 - 01:17 PM I am wearing my Browser Refresh Button out, but that will at least let you post and read for awhile (as mentioned above) |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST Date: 23 Sep 06 - 01:58 PM Nice to see everyone getting along. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST Date: 23 Sep 06 - 01:59 PM Interesting to note: When I tried to post the above three times the cursor was in the upper-right quadrent of the submit box. I moved the cursor to the far-left part of the submit box and it posted. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST Date: 23 Sep 06 - 02:48 PM I got a ID 10 T error message :| |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST Date: 23 Sep 06 - 02:49 PM Figures. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST Date: 23 Sep 06 - 03:37 PM It does indeed. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Sorcha Date: 23 Sep 06 - 03:40 PM The only thing we know is that we will know nothing. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: bobad Date: 23 Sep 06 - 05:24 PM And all is now well again in Mudcat Land. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: SINSULL Date: 23 Sep 06 - 10:05 PM For reasons unknown, Error Messages have stopped. Following the advice given here, I have resolved my disappearing cookies issue. Thank you. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Liz the Squeak Date: 24 Sep 06 - 05:29 AM You realise that if this had been your WORK service, you would all have just downed tools and buggered off to do something else instead. If the Cat goes down, there are plenty of other things to play with... like finding out why my screen fades to creamy yellow every now and then... or playing with my real cat..... or just letting Max get on with his life for a change. LTS |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST,Jon Date: 24 Sep 06 - 06:02 AM What are you on about Liz? If YOU want to start that sort of thing... I haven't seen much in the way of complaint about it being down and I see no reason to belive this thread has in any way prevented Max from getting on with his life. He hasn't even posted to it. I do of course realise that had been my own web sites, I would dropped what ever I might have been doing to keep people informed and get the matter resolved as quickly as I can. It's the way I work. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST,Fred Fnord Date: 24 Sep 06 - 06:41 PM Ugh... mudcat is running on MS SQL and ... ACCESS? Now I feel all dirty. -fred |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Liz the Squeak Date: 25 Sep 06 - 04:36 AM Put it down to PMT, toothache and generally PO'd with people wingeing about not being able to get on here... Some folks early in the thread made noises like Error 503 was a personal vendetta. I'm not mad, I've just been in a very bad mood for 30 years. LTS |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: SINSULL Date: 25 Sep 06 - 09:54 PM Screw you Liz! Love, SINS Hope the tooth gets better. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST,jOhn Date: 26 Sep 06 - 06:06 AM Waht all this is about? |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST,Jon Date: 26 Sep 06 - 06:11 AM Mudcat's had an intermittant problem lasting several hours a couple of times lately (in an otherwise excellent run) and been producing this error message. It seems to be clear now. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Clinton Hammond Date: 26 Sep 06 - 04:19 PM It's back again.... Or still |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: wysiwyg Date: 26 Sep 06 - 05:37 PM Screw you, 503. I'm gonna send in 99 to kick your ass! ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Bill D Date: 26 Sep 06 - 05:47 PM I tried to read this thread, but it is temporarily unavailable, so I am typing this in an obscure blog based in Liechtenstein...they promised to send it over when it's safe. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: RTim Date: 26 Sep 06 - 08:12 PM What is up with this 503 error - it is becoming a problem. There MUST be something wrong, you should not keep getting this error - I've been out of computing for ten years, but I know when there is something wrong. Who maintains this system? Tim Radford |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Herga Kitty Date: 26 Sep 06 - 09:11 PM It's doing it again... Kitty |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Clinton Hammond Date: 27 Sep 06 - 01:10 PM And again.... and again...... WTF??? |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Greg B Date: 27 Sep 06 - 01:26 PM I agree...some explanation and organizational damage-control is in order. Max? Max? Can we be of help? I'm a bit of a Cold Fusion maven. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: JohnInKansas Date: 27 Sep 06 - 01:52 PM Aha! Something new has happened. After getting the "503" for about 4 hours, I finally came back and found that - for the first time in years - I HAD NO COOKIE! Max must have needed some of that cookie dust to loosen up the mainshaft bearing or to polish some gears, or some such. (Or maybe he needed a cookie to bribe the kid(s) to quit playing webmeister?) Fortunately, I found my password and managed to get logged back in. John |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Bill D Date: 27 Sep 06 - 02:13 PM well, thanks to the guys in Liechtenstein for sending my post over! (I heard they had to route it thru Tasmania, but since Tasmania has no '503', but runs on '313', it worked out ok!) Glad I can now post right from here....*grin* |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Scrump Date: 27 Sep 06 - 02:15 PM I was getting this all day at work (so that's why he's been so quiet, you're thinking). It seems OK now I'm at home. We found today we had problems with our email which seems to have got blacklisted by spamcop or some such (wrongly, I should add - we don't send spam of any kind!). Could this have somehow been the cause of the 503 message, does anyone know? (I might not see the response until this time tomorrow if it is the problem!) |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Clinton Hammond Date: 27 Sep 06 - 02:17 PM "Could this have somehow been the cause of the 503 message" No.... the problem is not on your end... the problem is on Mudcats end..... |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST,dax Date: 27 Sep 06 - 03:18 PM Max had to tighten a few screws on the receipricator to keep the hard drive from degenerating into a floppy. This caused a back up overflow in the dummy ram and the spillover contaminated the boot drivers. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: MMario Date: 27 Sep 06 - 03:21 PM you think? I thought possibly a leak in the IP refirigerant |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Bill D Date: 27 Sep 06 - 03:35 PM "...to keep the hard drive from degenerating into a floppy." probably had to reboot Viagra 2.04....I hear that on a Mac, a similar program is built in. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: JohnInKansas Date: 27 Sep 06 - 05:37 PM I'd suspect it was more like the bit-bucket, where all the lost bits go, just got full. Everyone knows you have to shut everything down in order to empty an overstuffed bit-bucket 'cause otherwise you'd get John |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST,Mudcat Mushrooms (kept in the dark and....) Date: 27 Sep 06 - 06:07 PM Why can't Joe or a clone ask Max what is going on then tell us so all the speculation would end and we all might possibly learn something? Definitely not complaining, just a simple inquiry. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Jeri Date: 27 Sep 06 - 06:16 PM Max has never been that good at telling people what's going on, and he probably knows we're all wondering what's up. I don't have any means to contact him that you don't GUEST. I'd LIKE to believe they're planning something big for Mudcat's 10th, but I'm not holding my breath. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: katlaughing Date: 27 Sep 06 - 06:34 PM Me, too, Jeri. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: MaineDog Date: 27 Sep 06 - 07:23 PM I saw it too. The page was signed by Max. Let him do his thing. MD |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST,Jon Date: 27 Sep 06 - 07:35 PM Sorry MD, The page was not signed by max aS personal message about this problem, That is a defualt address shown where a default error merror page is produced. Like filling in a little box when you set up the server, duh - who am - email addreses - hey - when the server is set up... There may be good reasons for all sorts, but at least try the planet of reality on these things MD. There was no personal input. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Max Date: 27 Sep 06 - 09:26 PM Several reasons for this lately. 1. I've been doing some work on our data. Backup routines, analysis, indexing, etc. We have A LOT of data, so it's tricky to not overload the server. I used to do it at 3am to not effect things, but I can't stay up that late anymore. 2. Spam is increasing. We get hammered every day with thousands upon thousands of attacks from people and worms and spiders trying to use our site for nothing we want. We usually have more manpower to deal with it, but: 3. We're down a very key member of our staff due to an ongoing family emergency. Our planned upgrade for the 10th anniversary includes a great deal of behind the scenes defense systems, but is delayed due to this issue that I will talk more about pretty soon. 4. General traffic increases. We're getting more hits. 5. I've been out of town for some time. Everyone relax, take a deep breath. My phone number is on the contact page, you can call me anytime and I'll personally explain you everything and tell you a story and sing you a song. Call me. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Cruiser Date: 27 Sep 06 - 11:52 PM Thank you Max. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: katlaughing Date: 28 Sep 06 - 12:26 AM Thanks, Max! Aren't you about due for another baby? |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: John MacKenzie Date: 28 Sep 06 - 04:05 AM It happened to me at least 100 times ☺ Giok |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Geoff the Duck Date: 28 Sep 06 - 05:29 AM Thanks for the explanation Max. Did the Ice Cream with a Flake in it arrive from WYSYWYG without melting, then? Quack! GtD. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST,Jon Date: 28 Sep 06 - 06:07 AM As a point of interest which I suppose could be of use to someone here. While I don't have vast amounts of data, I do have the backing up, etc. needs. My situation is that I have 2 machines, one I run purely as a web server which is permanatly on. The other is my general purpose machine, which I use for development, browsing the internet or anything else. This machine may be on or off but I want to get a regular backup of my databases there where I can do whatever I may want with it at my leisure. What I do is schedule regular cron (read task manager for win) jobs to run this script on the server: when=`date +%Y-%m-%d_%H:%M:%S` filename="/backups/"$1"_"$when".bz2" mysqldump $1 -h$2 -u$3 -p$4 | bzip2 -c >$filename mail -s$1" backup" -a $filename jon < /dev/null rm $filename This script takes the details of the database I wish to back up, performs the backup, which it then "zips" to a file named with the database and the date/time of the backup. It then emails me the backup. When I start my general purpose machine up in the morning and check my email, I recieve the back ups that were taken in the early hours of the morning as email attachments. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: katlaughing Date: 28 Sep 06 - 09:55 AM Giok, you had 100 babies?**bg** |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: John MacKenzie Date: 28 Sep 06 - 10:26 AM Yup 1 for each of my babies, and one more for the road! G [kat, does that mean you actually read this stuff? ☺]= |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Greg B Date: 28 Sep 06 - 11:01 AM Max... I've found it useful with MySQL machines, to have a second, smaller, MySQL box which mirrors the data on the first one. We do data analysis, backups, etc. on that machine and that way anything I do (like an outrageous query) affects only the backup machine. Another fun scenario is for all writes to take place on the primary machine, but move reads and browsing to the #2 box. Finally...I think this thing is on the old CF Forums, which is pretty weak in terms of performance and reliability. We've been pretty impressed with VBulletin. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Clinton Hammond Date: 28 Sep 06 - 11:37 AM More traffic? HA |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: SINSULL Date: 28 Sep 06 - 12:30 PM It's lambing season in Scotland, kat. Giok's had a long cold winter. Thanks, Max. My original question was out of frustration with my computer not Mudcat. Norton's update has created a few problems and now they have the nerve to send Pop-ups telling me I'm not covered. ARGGGHHHH! This after they send me a receipt. By the way, when is Lightnin' due? SINS |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Clinton Hammond Date: 28 Sep 06 - 12:41 PM I can't believe anyone still uses Norton...... |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Jeri Date: 28 Sep 06 - 12:50 PM I uninstalled Norton with extreme prejudice, and I'm running Avast!. It's free, it works, and it's small and sleek, and not cumbersome and primarily intended to make money for its owners because of users' dependency. Plus, it's got a pirate word for a name, which is, like, so cooool! Just my opinion. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST,Jon Date: 28 Sep 06 - 07:30 PM Greg B. I think Mudcat uses SQLServer, not MySQL (although I presume replication is possible) and while I believe it was based on an old CF demo program, it has had a lot of modification. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Max Date: 28 Sep 06 - 07:51 PM I'll be posting an update soon... about the family and the cat. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Bill D Date: 28 Sep 06 - 07:52 PM Like Jeri says, Avast is a good anti-virus...I happen to use AVG, because I'm used to it, and it works too. Norton was fine when it was *Norton*, but who knows who runs it now? They are acting more like Adobe and Real everyday. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Stilly River Sage Date: 30 Sep 06 - 01:07 AM I switched for a while to the Earthlink free security program (there is a fee if you don't have Earthlink as your internet provider). It kept crashing the computer--the blue screen of death is not my favorite thing to encounter when I push the "enter" button to do something innocuous. Since switching back, reluctantly, to Symantec, it has blocked more things I want to do but the computer hasn't crashed. It is a trade-off. SRS |
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