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Subject: RE: BS: What annoys me about mudcat From: Jon Freeman Date: 13 Jan 02 - 09:10 AM I really need to slow down with my links. Sorry about this! Try this one Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: What annoys me about mudcat From: Jon Freeman Date: 13 Jan 02 - 09:32 AM I'll just offer my opinion on storage as it has cropped up again and Norton's statement where he indicated some degree of agreement with me did not really reflect my thoughts. I very much doubt that storage is a problem on the system as it is hosted by Max. To the best of my knowledge he has a big database server which I would guess is capable of holding several gigabytes. I'd guess there could be questions over preformance but again, as far as I know, Max is running SQL server which is very powerful. Where I would have doubts (and this is a grey area) over storing old threads is that as time goes on, under the current system, there will become more and more BS to wade through when trying to search for information from old music related threads. Only time will tell as to whether it really will become a problem and there is certainly a possibility that the advanced filtering Max mentioned would ease these worries. Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: What annoys me about mudcat From: GUEST Date: 13 Jan 02 - 09:57 AM But if you start filtering BS from the archive, many of the Mudcat regular's posting history here will cease to exist! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What annoys me about mudcat From: Jeri Date: 13 Jan 02 - 10:46 AM The filter doesn't remove anything from the database. It removes threads from the view of a person using the filter. It's a matter of individual choice. In all this business about "what annoys me about Mudcat, people are talking mostly about what other people do and say here, not Mudcat itself. If Max were to use his authority to limit what was said or done here, would there be any fewer pissed off people? I think there would be more. It still comes down to people being frustrated and angry when their view of the best possible Mudcat (or more like the behavior of the contributors) doesn't match reality. Maybe it's just me, but I find it easier to be here somewhat free from expectations than change reality. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What annoys me about mudcat From: Rick Fielding Date: 13 Jan 02 - 11:40 AM Sorry Jon. I was overly testy last night. It's no big deal and I apologize. Shoulda had my bran flakes first! Rick |
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Subject: RE: BS: What annoys me about mudcat From: katlaughing Date: 13 Jan 02 - 11:41 AM I agree with you, Jeri. Also, it might help if use of a prefix were mandatory, even if it is a GENERAL INQUIRY. There are a LOT of threads right now which do not have the BS distinction and they decidedly NOT about music. Max has said before that storage is no problem. Jon, I like the Annexe very much and really appreciate it. I do not see it as any kind of competition to the Mudcat. I also like your prelim design for a music forum, which, again, I do not see as a competition thing. Artdarlin'....if we could get all of the one like you who have stopped coming by, to come by in a concerted effort and post MORE on music, I think you would find it a welcome change. Most of us cannot post with anywhere near the knowledge and scholarship that you, Deckman, Don Firth, Sandy Paton, Hamilton, Jean Ritchie and others are capable of; most of us would LOVE to hear more. Now, if you're saving it for that memoir and don't want to spoil the publication, I can understand being a bit quiet.*BG* Anyway, we'd love to ehar more and I am sure would show the appreciation we usually do when we read something so interesting and significant as what some of you have posted. I wasn't going to post to this thread. Then, I was just going to post links ot all of the ones like it, from the past, for Spaw's suggested Bitch, Piss, and Moan Permathread, but I think some important things have been discussed. I would like to see the same people who've posted to this one, also post a few things that they are happy about with the Mudcat, too. In general, I agree with Jeri's earlier post, too about loving Mudcat for what it is, not what I think it should be. kat |
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Subject: RE: BS: What annoys me about mudcat From: Jon Freeman Date: 13 Jan 02 - 12:02 PM Happy about kat, if you really want happy, I'll spell it out and give you a delighted about: That is Max's "Anyhow, it includes some advanced filtering technology that should make the 1%ers more satisfied with the content without the other 99 even noticing". Whether it really proves to be a solution in terms of making the 1%ers more satisfied or whether complaints continue for other reasons is another matter but what I do see is a very positive attempt to address what I belive is a key issue within Mudcat. For the first time in a while, I will go as far as to say I am optimistic about Mudcat! Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS:What a great link! From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 13 Jan 02 - 02:22 PM That link rick gave makes this whole thread worthwhile. Here it is again for those who skipped past it.
There was a story in the paper the other day that said that they've discovered that when you really get into it the whole universe is really a sort of turquoise - pistacchio I think is the name of the shade they decided on. I don't really like that colour at all. But on the whole I think the universe is good enough to put up with stuff like that. That goes for the Mudcta as well. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What annoys me about mudcat From: mack/misophist Date: 13 Jan 02 - 06:29 PM This may be irrelevant but I think it deserves a mention. Everything on the internet is owned by someone. Somebody owns this forum and has an idea of what they want it to be. If someone else disagrees... tough luck. The only recourse is persuasion. As for unnecessary postings, there will always be newbies. Everywhere you go. Deal with it. I'm one myself. I'm trying to learn but it doesn't happen instantly. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What annoys me about mudcat From: Mark Cohen Date: 13 Jan 02 - 08:06 PM That link, and this site for Old-Time tunes to learn and play along with are two of the finest reasons I stick with the 'Cat. I even (finally) got an answer to my puzzling tech question, and along the way got more belly laughs than I would ever have gotten if I'd asked the question on a tech forum. And yes, we have had some knowledgeable people leave. And we've had some knowledgeable people show up, too. So? So I'm willing to put up with the bullshit. I'm even willing to put up with 'Spaw. I don't expect Mudcat to change to suit me, I just expect to keep learning new stuff and meeting new people and having fun with old people (!) and finding new things to amaze me and delight me and bore me and annoy me but mostly to enjoy. When I used to hang out at the Seattle Song Circle, we didn't just sing songs and talk about folk music, we also shared experiences and told jokes and hung out. Sure, there were some people there who I didn't like all that much (you know who you are....), but most of the people there I did like, and overall it was a good experience, and one I miss very much...which is why I appreciate the Mudcat so much. But.....do you want to know what REALLY annoys me about the Mudcat? What has me so damned pissed off I'm ready to chuck the whole thing and go hang out at Oprah's book club or the frozen green bean recipe forum? It's that CAROLC GOT A BIRTHDAY THREAD AND I DIDN'T!!! Aloha, Mark (Guess next time I'll be smarter and won't have my birthday on Joe Offer's wedding day!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: What annoys me about mudcat From: Art Thieme Date: 13 Jan 02 - 08:40 PM I suspect I'm just lurking more and enjoying it less. No offense meant. Too much goin' down in my private life these days. Love to all. art |
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Subject: RE: BS: What annoys me about mudcat From: GUEST,KT Date: 13 Jan 02 - 10:53 PM Wow! Thanks Rick, for sharing that site!!! I missed it whenever and wherever Stewie posted it, but I'm sure glad to find it now!! May even have to dust off the old fiddle!! KT |
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Subject: RE: BS: What annoys me about mudcat From: Ebbie Date: 14 Jan 02 - 01:30 AM I echo the thanks, Rick. I've been over there just playing one tune/song after another. It's great. Who is honkingduck? Great site, great service. Eb |
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Subject: RE: BS: What annoys me about mudcat From: GUEST Date: 16 Jan 02 - 12:59 AM . |
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Subject: RE: BS: What annoys me about mudcat From: Jim Dixon Date: 16 Jan 02 - 10:17 AM OK, this annoys me. People who make requests for lyrics, but don't use punctuation, so they run together the artist's name, the album name, the song title, and maybe some lyrics and other verbiage so you can't sort them out!
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Subject: RE: BS: What annoys me about mudcat From: katlaughing Date: 16 Jan 02 - 10:53 AM LOL...good example, Jim! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What annoys me about mudcat From: CarolC Date: 16 Jan 02 - 11:17 AM Oh wow. This is what I get for not paying attention. Oh, Mark, sweety. You just gotta learn how to play it right. These things don't just happen, you know. You have to work it. I'll teach you some of my stuff if you want. Don't feel bad, I think you're doing really well. Just take a moment to stop and smell the plumeria, and I know you'll feel much better. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What annoys me about mudcat From: SharonA Date: 16 Jan 02 - 02:13 PM What else annoys me about Mudcat: threads that run well over 100 posts, without a link to a new thread. So here, at post #118, is the link to part 2 of this discussion: BS: What annoys me about Mudcat PART 2 |