Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010

Subject: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: Charley Noble
Date: 18 Aug 10 - 05:08 PM

Judy and I have been busy planning another trip to the UK. We'd love to connect with as many Mudcat folks as we can on this trip, and there are a number of folk clubs, pubs, and a festival on our proposed tour where this might readily happen. We have some flexibility, if there is something happening close by when we are not scheduled. We are open to suggestions.

Here's our schedule to date:

We fly into London (hopefully with my Stewart banjo) on Wednesday, September 1, and catch our breath .

Thursday I do C. Fox Smith research at the National Maritime Museum at Greenwich.

Friday and Sunday are currently unscheduled but Saturday, I believe, we'll be joining the Mudcat crowd at the Black Lion Pub in London.

Monday, September 6, we pick up our rental car, boot up the GPS, and we're off to the Navigation Inn in Buxworth with a spot at the nearby Stockport Folk Club (near Manchester). I'll be leading a song there based on a C. Fox Smith poem titled "The Jolly Bargeman" (which mentions drinking at The Navigation Inn, and some other songs based on C. Fox Smith poems. Tuesday, September 7, we're invited for a cruise on Ian Bruce's canal boat.

Wednesday, September 8, we're off north to Fleetwood to join up with Ron Baxter, Ross Campbell and company; I have a spot the next day at The Steamer gathering in Fleetwood and expect that my focus will be merchant sailor songs.

Friday, September 10, we motor over to Yorkshire to join Two Black Sheep & a Stallion at the Tap & Spile in York, continue the next evening at The Golden Fleece, and then it's on to the Golden Ball at Bishophill. I dare say I'll be leading some drinking songs and some sea shanties. Monday is recovery.

Lord knows what we'll be doing the rest of the week (still recovering or a side trip to Hull?) but we need to be at the Otley Festival on Saturday, September 18, to join Jim Saville for a proposed C. Fox Smith workshop (details still to be confirmed); Bob Watson is going to try to connect with us at the Festival.

Then it's back to London on Monday, September 20; turn in what's left of the rental car.

Finally we join the session at Cecil Sharp House on Tuesday, September 21. This will be my last opportunity to connect with some of the London Mudcatters.

Packing and last minute whatever Wednesday, September 22.

Then we fly out for Maine on Thursday, September 23.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble and JudyB

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: Charley Noble
Date: 18 Aug 10 - 05:15 PM

Damn! Already one correction:

The Black Lion Mudcat session in London is Thursday, September 2, 7:30 pm.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: Les from Hull
Date: 18 Aug 10 - 08:11 PM

I've invited Charley to the Wednesday afternoon session in the Black Boy in Hull, so any local Mudcatters who are free may care to join us in Ye Olde Black Boy, 2pm onwards.

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: olddude
Date: 18 Aug 10 - 08:18 PM

Safe trip my dear friend. Have fun .. and leave Stonehenge the way you found it ok ...

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: Charley Noble
Date: 18 Aug 10 - 08:46 PM

Les-

We are firm for the Black Boy in Hull, assuming the Wednesday is September 15.

However we were hoping for a session at the Druid Arms, last referenced by Bob Roberts.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: My guru always said
Date: 19 Aug 10 - 03:29 AM

Looks like you'll be having a Fab Time! We'll get to meet you at the Black Lion session but unfortunately can't help the next couple of days as we'll be pottering around with Max. Know you'll enjoy mooching around and catching your breath anyway. Enjoy!

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: Charley Noble
Date: 19 Aug 10 - 08:34 AM

While on this tour I''m looking forward to personally thanking the several intripid volunteers who helped Jim Saville and I complete the Cicely Fox Smith poetry on-line anthology at the Oldpoetry website: click here for website!

We have posted some 627 poems there to date, all the poems published in her own works and in Punch Magazine, and most of the ones published in other miscellaneous magazines.

I will also be bringing copies of The Sea Songs of Cicely Fox Smith, Volume 1, which include the 20 or so poems by her that I've adapted for singing and recorded, plus a sampling of poems adapted by others.

Here's a link to my website where the songbook and CD's are described: click here for website!

The songbook and CD's can also be ordered from the website.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: Noreen
Date: 19 Aug 10 - 09:16 AM

Hi Charley, sounds a great trip you've got planned.

Does CFS call it Buxworth, or the original Bugsworth (which the locals decided they didn't like and changed it in 1930)? Whether or no, the locals still call it Buggy :)

Lovely countryside around there for sightseeing too. Have fun!

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: bradfordian
Date: 19 Aug 10 - 10:55 AM

Charley, All being well, I hope to catch up with you in Fleetwood on 8/9th Sept.

brad

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: Charley Noble
Date: 19 Aug 10 - 10:59 AM

Noreen-

We noted the confusion about the town name and will take care to be discrete. We're not exactly sure which Navigation Inn CFS was referring to and plunked for the one nearest Stockport where Ian Bruce resides.

We're seeing mixed reviews for The Navigation Inn itself and none of their phone numbers seem to be operational. Here are the ones we've tried:

01663-732072 (from official website)
01663-732308 (from another website)

Everyone seems to agree that the food is mediocre but maybe the reviews (some were also pretty dated) were posted by the competition.

Cheerly,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: greg stephens
Date: 19 Aug 10 - 11:02 AM

Well, if your fun on the night of Wed Sep 8 gets cancelled, slip into the Leopard in Burslem(Stoke-on-Trent) in the evening.Just down the road from Buxworth. See the very boatie Boat Band, and also the very boatie(and American) Spider John Koerner.

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: GUEST,Ian Bruce
Date: 19 Aug 10 - 11:25 AM

The Navigation Inn in Buxworth/Bugsworth had new owners a year ago and things have much improved. The landlord/landlady are now very welcoming, which couldn't be said in the past. Though it is always dangerous to recommend eating establishments as these can vary on a daily basis, there is a new chef at the Navigation Inn and every meal I (our my friends) have had there has been very good.

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Aug 10 - 11:29 AM

Telephone and contact details for Navigation Inn, Brookside, Buxworth, High Peak, Derbyshire, SK23 7NE :
Telephone : [phone]    E-mail : [e-mail]

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: Ian Hendrie
Date: 19 Aug 10 - 12:16 PM

I've spoken to Janet, the landlady of the Navigation Inn in Buxworth, and it appears that these out-of-date reviews are not helping their business. This is very unfortunate. The pub is very welcoming with good quality food and we need to support our local pubs or they will all disappear.

Janet has suggested that Charlie sing a few songs in the pub on the Tuesday night (7th Sept)after our canal boat trip, and so anyone who can make it would, I am sure, be very welcome to join the Bugsworth Tipplers. Perhaps you have to be a student of industrial archaeology to get that, sorry!

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 19 Aug 10 - 02:44 PM

If you're back in London on 20 September, it would be great to see you both at the Herga folk club, HA5 3TJ ....

Kitty

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: gnu
Date: 19 Aug 10 - 03:25 PM

olddude... "leave Stonehenge the way you found it"

I didn't know it was you that found it.

Congrats and bon voyagies.

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: JudyB
Date: 19 Aug 10 - 03:29 PM

Thanks for the update, Ian, and we are looking forward to Tuesday night at the Navigation Inn! I did see a newer review that sounded as if it might be a different place - so happy to hear that we get the same charming location - and good food! And I'm also glad to learn that we won't need to navigate too far after a few pints in the pub!

Thanks again!
JudyB (Charlie's wife)

PS Thanks, Kitty! I'm not quite sure if we'll be coming back the 20th or the 21st, but it sounds great if we can do it!

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: Charley Noble
Date: 19 Aug 10 - 04:12 PM

Looks like everything is working out for the better. Thanks to Ian, we are booked at the Navigation Inn. Given its proximity to Manchester, it may well have been the Inn that C. Fox Smith was most familiar with and used in her poem "The Jolly Bargeman." We'll see if we can find her initials carved anywhere.

I'm not sure what was going on with out international cellphone calling to the Navigation Inn but it was probably some problem at our end with the numerical codes. We were dialing "011" for international calls and then "44" for the UK but maybe the codes have changed more recently than our antique phone book.

We are sorry to hear that the Druid's Arms no longer exists in Hull. Maybe it was a figment of Bob Roberts' imagination.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: Charley Noble
Date: 21 Aug 10 - 11:42 AM

It's looking more like we won't be able to make the Black Lion gathering on Thursday, September 2. After getting out of the National Maritime Museum at 5 pm, I may need to decompress, have a drink with my fellow researcher, and then a leisurely dinner at the Trafalgar Restaurant. I think we'll try to find a place to stay in Greenwich for the night.

Judy (who is a volunteer forum administrator for Hancock Wildlife in British Columbia) also has some eagle webcam friends she wants to connect with that are off to the Southwest, and we need to figure out where that is going to happen that weekend.

If anyone has a recommendation for a nice but moderately priced place to stay in and around Greenwich, we would be very appreciative. Or we can shake the dice and plunk for what we can find from guidebooks or websites.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: Les from Hull
Date: 21 Aug 10 - 02:19 PM

If you get time, check out Maritime Books, 66 Royal Hill (near the NMM) for a great range of new and secondhand books.

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: Charley Noble
Date: 21 Aug 10 - 10:23 PM

Thanks, Les. I love a good book store.

Last time around we got to spend some time sorting through books at Hay-on-Way in Wales, the place where all used books end up!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: Charley Noble
Date: 22 Aug 10 - 10:17 AM

Thanks to the good work of Jim Saville (aka ShantyFreak) the details of our C. Fox Smith workshop at the Otley Festival have been nailed down:

September 18th, Saturday 2.30 pm, Black Horse Public House - Upstairs

Upstairs is the old Otley Folk Club meeting room, spacious and with fair accoustics. The location is good too, very easy to find.

What we'll present are poems composed by Cicely Fox Smith (1882-1954), and songs based on such poems. There will also be time for questions and discussion. I'll bring copies of my Sea Songs of Cicely Fox Smith songbook as well as CD's.

Few people have done as good a job of creating nautical poems from the stories deep-water sailors tell as Smith has done. And over 70 of her poems have been recently recorded as songs, not all of them having to do with the sea.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: Charley Noble
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 06:17 PM

We've had to drop plans to attend the Black Lion session with Max and other London Mudcatters. Thursday, September 2, has unfortunately gotten too busy in Greenwich.

I'm also looking forward to the singers session at Cecil Sharp House on Tuesday, September 21, 8 pm. This will be the best chance for me to connect with London Mudcatters. Looks as if we'll be basing ourselves in a nearby hotel in Camden Town for several days.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: GUEST,Jim Jack from Fourum
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 06:24 PM

Not responding to this thread, Charley - sorry but trying to contact Bradfordian from posting on 19 August, but have only just come across inputs in 2002!! Have posted a couple of info items on the Gunnerside Gill thread if Bradfordian still interested. Happy listening! Have a good trip to UK Charley!

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Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 07:04 PM

We have a gig on 15 Septe Les but if I can cadge any time off work and can drag Hazel to Hul we may be able to pop in for a quick one!

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: Charley Noble
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 08:20 PM

Linda-

We would love to meet you and swap a few songs. You might be interested in some of our Nova Scotia fishing songs.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: stallion
Date: 25 Aug 10 - 03:28 AM

Anyone wishing to come on Saturday 11th, if you want to have a sing and play you will be more than welcome, find a way to get in touch PM me but it would be nice to know how many we are catering for. Linda & Hazel, you wanna come? might be able to find you a bed?
Peter

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 25 Aug 10 - 06:13 AM

Mmmmm....... Will check with H.

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: Charley Noble
Date: 25 Aug 10 - 09:00 AM

The nice thing about our visit to York is that we'll be there about 10 days, enough time to connect with a whole lot of folks and also see some of the countryside and shore.

I do hope that folks find out about the C. Fox Smith workshop that Jim Saville and I are coordinating at the Otley Festival; it is not featured on the Festival Website and it's unclear to me how anyone would find out about it except by word of mouth. Here's the location and time again:

September 18th, Saturday 2.30 pm, Black Horse Public House - Upstairs

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: Pistachio
Date: 25 Aug 10 - 10:38 AM

It so happens I'm meeting my son for lunch in York on the 11th...so that may well tie in with saying hello. I'd bring Linda too. Don't know how long we can stay?
(PM to Stallion!)
Re: 15th in Hull - I'm on a course, cycling around Beverley !! (don't ask) but would love to dash over about 4 ish..... in the car if that's not too late (Les?)
(PM to Les!)

Hazel.

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 25 Aug 10 - 01:51 PM

Just so we know the details where is the Tap & Spile in York and when are you planning to be there? just direct me from M & S or any other large retail outlet-I'm bound to know where they are!

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: Charley Noble
Date: 25 Aug 10 - 04:44 PM

"where is the Tap & Spile in York?"

We'd like to know that as well but probably Peter will guide us there.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: stallion
Date: 26 Aug 10 - 06:50 AM

Linda, Monkgate, It is quite near Monkgate bar, just outside the walls, nestles between the GUM clinic and St Johns College, as for directions, find The Minster, with your back to the Rose window take the main road left (walking, blocked to traffic) keep walking (150 yards) thro the hole in the wall (Monk bar)strait on thorough the traffic lights pub is 50 yards on the left. It isn't far from M&S but lordy the windy streets of medieval York. Up parliament street towards St Sampsons Square, turn right on to church street, straight on to Goodramgate, turn right at the cross keys, straight on thro afore mentioned hole in wall, the rest you know, it is not the quickest but the easiest to give directions! The Golden Fleece, of course, is opposite the side door of M&S on Pavement
Peter

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: Charley Noble
Date: 26 Aug 10 - 08:52 AM

Peter-

Sounds like a snap!

We do wonder if our GPS unit would figure out how to get there, "thro the hole in the wall"! Poor little thing might fry its tiny brain.

Remind me, the next time you're in Maine, to take you on a boat trip through "The Little Hell Gates," preferably while you're being towed on water skies.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: stallion
Date: 26 Aug 10 - 01:15 PM

Oh forgot, hazel & linda - Friday night - Tap & Spile and Saturday night at the Golden Fleece, I am sure we can hook up sometime

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: Charley Noble
Date: 28 Aug 10 - 09:58 AM

Packing and re-packing!

We could well spend a year following up all the interesting leads and invitations that have been coming in but we only have a little more than three weeks.

How's the weather? Should we be bringing our mackinaws?
Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: Charley Noble
Date: 28 Aug 10 - 10:03 AM

Here's a link to the type of "mackinaw" we could bring: Click here!

We realize that the word has many meanings and may confuse some on the other side of the Great Pond.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: bradfordian
Date: 28 Aug 10 - 10:27 AM

And don't forget your fishing waders; the river Ouse is prone to bursting its banks ;-)

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 28 Aug 10 - 11:51 AM

Weekend 3/4/5 September: 5000 Morris Dancers at the South Bank. All free.

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: Charley Noble
Date: 28 Aug 10 - 04:50 PM

"Fishing waders," check!

5000 Morris Dancers! Sounds dangerous.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: stallion
Date: 29 Aug 10 - 04:35 AM

Also Saturday afternoon, there is a mini beer festival at "village Bishy Road" pubs, The Swan & The Slip Inn. Bishy road is a very trendy shopping area & dining area these days, it sorta happened around us! When we first moved into the area 30 years ago 75% of the shops were boarded up and most of the area had just recieved a reprieve from the bulldozer (inner ring road dual carriagway been cancelled). Anyway we might take Charlie and Judy there, we were asked to perform so maybe we could all do an afternoon slot or just busk on the grass bank if the weather is good .
Weather is up and down, sou'wester probably not needed but a berghaus maybe. It is still quite warm and moist here or as the irish might put it "soft".

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: Charley Noble
Date: 29 Aug 10 - 06:59 AM

Weather or not, I see it's a case of pack everything we can, assuming there's any room left after we pack CDs and songbooks. Then, once we're in the UK:

We opens the pane and pops out the flame.
Just to see how the wind do blow.

Here in Maine it continues to be a bright and warm summer, with a major rain storm every other week. Judy and I got out in the boat the other day and saw at least 12 ospreys, two parents and their two fledglings doing barrel rolls and nose dives around their nest by the boat landing. We also saw a majestic pair of eagles perched on the top of a pine tree across the cove. Someday we ought to spend three weeks vacationing in Maine!

Time to make breakfast!

Oh, do they still brew coffee in the UK?

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: Ian Hendrie
Date: 29 Aug 10 - 07:19 AM

Restaurants, cafes and coffee shops do all manner of indescribable things to ground coffee in the UK and manage to make it taste awful 90% of the time. The popularity of the French cafetiere shows that the British are at least trying to get away from 'instant' coffee. But what's the preferred American method? Do you still use the metal can hanging over the camp-fire?

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: stallion
Date: 29 Aug 10 - 03:59 PM

I am no judge of coffee I drink de-caf latte with sugar in it!

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: Charley Noble
Date: 29 Aug 10 - 08:23 PM

We may just bring our own coffee beans and chew them!

Of course we'll probably never get them through customs.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 29 Aug 10 - 10:25 PM

The UK has Starbucks now, but alas the last time I was there I saw no Dunkin Donuts. I'm too working class for Starbucks.

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: Charley Noble
Date: 29 Aug 10 - 11:35 PM

I thought I heard the Ol' Man say.
"There's coffee on the stove-oh-oh-oh,
There's coffee on the stove!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: stallion
Date: 30 Aug 10 - 03:34 AM

We have three indian restaraunts around bishy road..........
Fire down be-lo-w o o o Fire down below

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: stallion
Date: 30 Aug 10 - 05:04 AM

I ran the crap Brit coffee thing past Jo, she said "yes we do, and they do crap tea" Anyway we have a cafetiare and a machine that does pods and somewhere in the cupboard a perculator and a filter do-hicky. If we really get desperate I will build a fire in the back garden and stick a can on it!

Subject: RE: Charley Noble Off to UK September 2010
From: Charley Noble
Date: 30 Aug 10 - 08:16 AM

Peter-

I think we'll fare fine. Who needs coffee when there's so much good ale!

Wow, are we together. We've just finished backing up our computers onto an external hard drive which we'll transport today to my mother's farm.

Now we need to provide detailed instructions to our cat-sitter, on how best to comply with Tilahun and Teji's demands while we're away.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble