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Subject: Help! PartII - Folk songs info needed! From: GUEST,BIABfsg Date: 26 Oct 01 - 10:06 AM Dear everyone in Mudcat! Thank you very much for you guys' help! YOU GUYS ARE GREAT! And I would like to express my gratitude to Masato, Allan.....etc. as for abc notation...I will try to learn it shortly...^^
Here are some songs that lock info: #1 Come, Follow (traditional) Come, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow me, Whither shall I follow, follow, follow, whither shall I follow , follow thee? To the green-wood, to the green-wood, to the green-wood, green wood tree. []eighth notes 4/4 /8-77/6655/4431/451-/ /[1234]53/4253/[4567]88/878-/ /3.[3]23/8.[8]78/6.[6]53/238-/ #2 The Little Bells Of Westminster (traditional) 2/4 /[1122]/[3322]/17/[15]5/ /[1122]/[3322]/17/[15]1/
If you have any info for the titles/lyrics/writers...please let me know! Thank you in advnace. Respectfully yours, BIABfsg
And followed please find the URL to my eGroup: www.groups.yahoo.com/group/biabfsg Which is a eGroup of sharing BIAB files...I am the moderator of this group and would like to invite everyone who love to get folk songs, blues song in Band-in-a-box format to my group. Please join me, I have more than 10,500 Band-in-a-box files to share (free service)..and those files can be convert to MIDI files. Thank you.
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Subject: RE: Help! PartII - Folk songs info needed! From: The_one_and_only_Dai Date: 26 Oct 01 - 10:12 AM GUEST,BIABfsg I have posted some more info to the previous thread FYI we split threads when they get to about 100 postings? Saves proliferation... |
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Subject: RE: Help! PartII - Folk songs info needed! From: GUEST,BIABfsg Date: 26 Oct 01 - 10:15 AM DEar The_one_and_only_Dai: Oh, yes, yes, I had read all those messages! Thank you very much for all the info. I was thinking that since those songs didn't appear in yesterday's threads...and I am not famaliar with the system here....so please advise me in this regard. Thank you. Respectfully yours, BIABfsg |
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Subject: RE: Help! PartII - Folk songs info needed! From: The_one_and_only_Dai Date: 26 Oct 01 - 11:33 AM ROFL, friend BIABfsg, the 'system' here is "Do what thou wilt, shall be the whole of the law". Threads > circa 100 posts start taking too long to load quickly, so generally somebody round off the old thread with an advisory and a link to the new thread, the first post being a link back to the old thread... if you see what I mean... This is just an adopted convention for convenience, rather than a rule, I didn't want to give the wrong impression. Does this post mean I'm now a mudcatter? ;-) |
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Subject: RE: Help! PartII - Folk songs info needed! From: Allan C. Date: 26 Oct 01 - 11:57 AM I can't add much about the first song (for which you appear to have ALL of the lyrics,) except to say that you may find more references to it if you search using "greenwood" as a single word. I learned it as a round that we sang around campfires. I believe the Girl Scouts or perhaps Campfire Girls (remember them, folks?) had it in an "official" songbook at one time. Perhaps others can tell you more. |
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Subject: RE: Help! PartII - Folk songs info needed! From: MMario Date: 26 Oct 01 - 12:14 PM there are those who would say that if you CAN find a composer/author for the song, then it isn't a folk song.
just thought I'd toss that into the whole mix |
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Subject: RE: Help! PartII - Folk songs info needed! From: GUEST,BIABfsg Date: 26 Oct 01 - 02:26 PM Dear Allan & Mario & The-one-and-only-Dai: Thank you very much for you guys help! I spent most of afternoon in our lib yesterday, searching for those info. I got lucky though..and was able to come up some info. As for those song in this thread...I couldn't find "any" info at all^^^^.....I will try those info provided by Allan though...thank you. And again, you guys are great!!! Respectfully yours, BIABfsg
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Subject: RE: Help! PartII - Folk songs info needed! From: MMario Date: 26 Oct 01 - 02:29 PM Your #1 is "Come Follow Me" - a a traditional English three part round from the 1600's - written by John Hilton. |
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Subject: RE: Help! PartII - Folk songs info needed! From: GUEST,BIABfsg Date: 26 Oct 01 - 02:38 PM Dear Mario: Thank you so much! I will try to search for John Hilton. And yes, indeed, it's a 3-part round traditional folk song. Respectfully yours, BIABFsg |
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Subject: RE: Help! PartII - Folk songs info needed! From: masato sakurai Date: 26 Oct 01 - 10:56 PM #1 "Come follow, follow me, whither shall I follow"
This song is contained in John Hilton's Catch That Catch Can: A Choice Collection of Catches, Rounds, and Canons, first published in London in 1652. I have an unabridged reproduction of the first edition, published by Da Capo Press in 1970. The song is on page 22 with music. The composer's name is given as "Mr. John Hinton" at the end of the lyrics. The name of the song on the contents page is "Come follow, follow me, whether shall I follow" (underline mine). There's one more verse given.
Wee have oft been Rogues together, ~Masato |
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Subject: RE: Help! PartII - Folk songs info needed! From: masato sakurai Date: 26 Oct 01 - 11:03 PM Sorry, underlined part is "whether" only. And the composer's name is written as "Mr. John Hilton." |
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Subject: RE: Help! PartII - Folk songs info needed! From: masato sakurai Date: 27 Oct 01 - 01:00 AM I forgot to mention that the first verse of #1 by J. Hilton (1652) is different. Who changed it to the greenwood song when, I don't know.
Come follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow mee;
The Hilton version is also in Rosemary Cass-Beggs, The Penguin Book of Rounds (Penguin Books, 1982), p. 61 [no. 88]. ~Masato |
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Subject: RE: Help! PartII - Folk songs info needed! From: GUEST,BIABfsg Date: 27 Oct 01 - 02:11 AM dear Masato: Wow, you are really the expert in this field!! Thank you very much...I will do some research as to "John Hilton"...since you had provided me some nice info, all I need to do is to verify it...^^Happy^^ Respectfully yours, BIABfsg |
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Subject: RE: Help! PartII - Folk songs info needed! From: masato sakurai Date: 27 Oct 01 - 11:06 AM At this site, the title of #1 is "To the Greenwood," with a note: "These are the words most people know for this round. In the 17th-century versions, the line is 'To the gallows, gallows....gallows tree'!" In the Hilton book, however, the spelling is "gallow" instead of "gallows." I'm still looking for #2's background info, without success. ~Masato
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Subject: RE: Help! PartII - Folk songs info needed! From: GUEST,BIABfsg Date: 27 Oct 01 - 11:32 AM Dear Masato: Since it's a bit controversial...I will go and ask our faculty member in this regard. Thank you so much for you help again. Respectfully yours, BIABfsg |
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