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DTStudy: McCassery and McCafferty - and McCaffery DigiTrad: MCCASSERY Related thread: Info: Maccafferty (15) |
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Subject: DTStudy McCassery and McCafferty - and McCaffery From: Joe Offer Date: 06 Feb 21 - 10:37 PM The Digital Tradition lists this song as MCCASSERY. In his Folk Song in England, A.L. Lloyd identifies the song as McCassery and McCafferty - and McCaffery. Here are the Digital Tradition Lyrics:
MCCASSERY
-Joe Offer-
Here are Lloyd's notes:
Here is the Traditional Ballad Index listing for this song: McCaffery (McCassery)DESCRIPTION: A young man enlists in the 42nd Regiment; mistreated by his captain and confined to barracks for a trivial offense, he decides to kill the captain. He accidentally shoots his colonel instead, and is tried (at Liverpool Assizes) and hanged.AUTHOR: unknown EARLIEST DATE: 1962 or 1966 (collected from Caroline Hughes) KEYWORDS: army violence crime execution homicide punishment revenge death soldier FOUND IN: Britain(Scotland,England(West)) Ireland REFERENCES (4 citations): MacSeegTrav 86, "McCaffery" (1 text, 1 tune) Dallas-CruelWars, pp. 170-172, "McCaffery" (1 text, 1 tune) Hamer-Green, pp. 47-48, "McCaffery" (1 text, 1 tune) DT, MCASSERY Roud #1148 RECORDINGS: May Bradley, "Calvery" (on Voice08) CROSS-REFERENCES: cf. "The Gallant Forty-Twa" (subject: 42nd Highlanders or Black Watch) and references there cf. "The Croppy Boy (I)" [Laws J14] (tune for Voice08) NOTES [173 words]: Hall, notes to Voice08, re "Calvery": "The story in the ballad is true in all its essentials. Patrick McCafferty was born in Mullingar, Co. West Meath, and in October 1860 enlisted at the age of seventeen in the 32nd Regiment.... McCafferty was tried at Liverpool Assizes and was hanged in Liverpool in front of Kirkdale gaol on January 11th, 1862. [ref. Roy Palmer, ed., The Rambling Soldier (Alan Sutton, 1985).]" Yates, Musical Traditions site Voice of the People suite "Notes - Volume 8" - 1.3.03 has a more detailed account. - BS When I met this song, I was surprised to find a soldier from the 42nd Regiment (the famous Black Watch) being tried in Liverpool; their base is in Perth. The likeliest explanation is that several sources confused the obscure 32nd regiment (which was, improbably enough, the Cornwall Regiment) with the famous 42nd, for which see songs such as "Wha Saw the Forty-Second." - RBW, (PJS) (In the May Bradley version, which is on Voice08 and transcribed in Hamer-Green, it's the Royal Artillery anyway.) - RBW Last updated in version 5.0 File: McCST086 Go to the Ballad Search form Go to the Ballad Index Instructions The Ballad Index Copyright 2020 by Robert B. Waltz and David G. Engle. |
Subject: ADD: McCaffery (Travellers' Songs) From: Joe Offer Date: 06 Feb 21 - 11:24 PM MCCAFFERY I was scarcely year eighteen years of age, O, to join the army I was in full advance; O, to join the army I was a-Full in defence, For to join the (Forty for some) regiment. (Forty-second) Now, as I was put there all on guard one day Three soldiers’ children came out to play; They gave me orders for to take their names — Well, I took one’s name there out of three. I done the deeds, I shot his blood, In old Liverpole his body lays. O captain (mewater) I was content to kill For I shot my colonel all against my will. Well, I’ve got no mother to take my part, I’ve got no father to break (my) heart. (his) I had one friend and a woman was she, She would lay her life down for me again. Singer: Caroline Hughes Notes: 86 MCCAFFERY A young man, McCaffery/McCafferty/McCassery, enlists in the Forty-Second Regiment (now known as The Black Watch), where he suffers victimisation at the hands of his captain. Con?ned to barracks for a trivial offence, his resentment builds up to the point where he determines to kill his persecutor. When the opportunity arises, he shoots his colonel by mistake. He is tried in a civil court (Liverpool Assizes is the most frequently cited venue), is found guilty and is finally hanged. In spite of important narrative de?ciencies in Mrs. Hughes’s text, her rendition of the song was greeted by her listeners with a good deal of respectful comment: ‘That’s a true song, that really happened. That poor unfortunate young man was hanged with nobody to speak up for him.’ ‘He was Irish and the officer had it in for him. Because he was Irish, he was always pickin’ on him.’ Billy Cole, a young Wiltshire Traveller, was more explicit: ‘It was in the 1914 War, and he shot the colonel right through his heart. But he really meant to shoot the captain. And the only one to stick up for him was a girl, and a friend was she, and they hung him at Walton Gaol in Liverpool.’ The 1860s and 1880s are often given as dates for the events described but in point of fact the ballad’s historicity is a matter of considerable uncertainty and doubt. Whether the story is indeed fact or fiction, it has given rise to a song which is widespread throughout Ireland and the British Isles. Two world wars have undoubtedly contributed to the ballad’s dissemination and for tens of thousands of young men inducted into the Armed Forces ‘McCaffery’ has been a first introduction to traditional song. Source: #86, pp 272-274 in Travellers' Songs from England and Scotland by Ewan MacColl and Peggy Seeger (University of Tennessee Press, 1977) |
Subject: RE: DTStudy: McCassery and McCafferty - and McCaffery From: GUEST,# Date: 06 Feb 21 - 11:25 PM https://books.google.ca/books?id=P6NACwAAQBAJ&pg=PT236&lpg=PT236&dq=Ewan+MacColl,+%22McCassery%22&source=bl&ots=EOJzM7g4tR&sig=A Scroll down just a bit to 86 McCassery s/b 86 McCaffery |
Subject: RE: DTStudy: McCassery and McCafferty - and McCaffery From: r.padgett Date: 07 Feb 21 - 08:18 AM Last added verse has Now come all you young officers of the present day, Just treat your men with Civilitee, For if you don't there's sure to be, Another hard case like Mccaferty Ray ps Roy Harris (who did National service) had a verse which had "The judge banged on wood" Not sure when National service was no longer obligatory ~ I think after 1945 ~ Mccafferty would have joined up as an alternative to to the Workhouse probably |
Subject: RE: DTStudy: McCassery and McCafferty - and McCaffery From: Charmion Date: 07 Feb 21 - 08:32 AM R.Padgett: In the version of this song I know, McCaffery “left the factory with a full intent / To join the Thirty-Second Regiment”. The army was no way to get rich, or even mildly prosperous, so I’d say he was hoping for a bit more excitement in life. National Service continued in Britain until 1960. Men born in 1938 were the last age cohort to be called up. |
Subject: RE: DTStudy: McCassery and McCafferty - and McCaffery From: MartinNail Date: 07 Feb 21 - 10:09 AM The best account of the history of this song in Roy Palmer's The rambling soldier : life in the lower ranks, 1750-1900, through soldiers' songs and writings / edited by Roy Palmer. Harmondsworth, Middlesex : Peacock Books, 1977. pp. 119-126. Palmer spells the name M'Caffrey but says that "the name appears, not only in the ballads, but also in the contemporary press, in a variety of spellings". The Regiment was the 32nd, the Cornwall Light Infantry, based at Fulwood Barracks, Preston. The 42nd, the Black Watch, was a lot better known which presumably accounts for their being confounded in many versions of the ballad. |
Subject: RE: DTStudy: McCassery and McCafferty - and McCaffery From: GUEST,henryp Date: 08 Feb 21 - 10:18 AM From History Ireland; 'McCafferty...the story of the song mccafferty the story of the song Includes lyrics from the late Patrick Loughran, Lurgan, County Armagh. Note; The inquest was held in Preston, and the trial in Liverpool. Lancashire Evening Post Thursday, 28th February 2019 The Ministry of Defence has announced that Fulwood Barracks in Preston will stay open for five years longer than originally planned. The barracks - which houses the Lancashire Infantry Museum as well as being a working barracks - had been slated for closure in 2022. However, the MoD has now announced that it will not shut until 2027. |
Subject: RE: DTStudy: McCassery and McCafferty - and McCaffery From: GUEST,# Date: 08 Feb 21 - 02:13 PM "Subject: RE: Mudcat Worldwide Singaround - On Zoom TODAY!!! From: The Sandman Date: 08 Feb 21 - 01:53 PM i am not saying i am right, but i have only ever heard it as mcCafferty in over 50 years on the uk folk scene, mcCafferty seems to be definteley the most popular name" You posted that to the wrong thread. |
Subject: RE: DTStudy: McCassery and McCafferty - and McCaffery From: The Sandman Date: 08 Feb 21 - 02:42 PM When did national service finish in the UK? 1960 National Service ended in 1960, though periods of deferred service still had to be completed. The last national servicemen were discharged in 1963. it started january 1949 |
Subject: RE: DTStudy: McCassery and McCafferty - and McCaffery From: The Sandman Date: 08 Feb 21 - 02:43 PM national service1947 After the Second World War (1939-45), the young men of Britain were called upon to meet new challenges in a rapidly changing world. National Service, a standardised form of peacetime conscription, was introduced in 1947 for all able-bodied men between the ages of 18 and 30. |
Subject: RE: DTStudy: McCassery and McCafferty - and McCaffery From: r.padgett Date: 09 Feb 21 - 04:14 AM Thanks for the new information ~ I have never seen until now the 32nd Regiment in the song ~ Regarding National Service through time I was pleased that NS didn't include me (b47) and of course during the WW11 there were protected occupations like miners and farmers ~ Peace time we had voluntary career soldiers and no doubt as in navy ns press gangs it was still expensive to maintain a high number of personnel Of course a minimum number of combatants would have needed to have been in place ~ experienced a well as anyone who could stand would also have been needed to make the number up in War time Ray |
Subject: RE: DTStudy: McCassery and McCafferty - and McCaffery From: GUEST,henryp Date: 09 Feb 21 - 06:46 AM Henry's Songbook; McCafferty Susannes Folksong-Notizen English Notes; [1967:] ...and the fact that its tune is a variant of that favourite Irish air for unruly texts [...] The croppy boy (from which the "I have no father" motif is lifted). (Lloyd, England 246) In fact, McCafferty's father had deserted McCafferty and his family; [1983:] Patrick McCaffery was born in Co. Kildare in October 1842. His father was an asylum governor who, upon being cleared of charges of misconduct, took off alone for America. Mrs. McCaffery was unable to support the boy, so she sent him to England to stay with a friend, Mrs. Murphy of Mossley near Manchester, where, at the age of 12, he started work in the mill. (Davie Redman, Southern Rag 16, p. 21) |
Subject: RE: DTStudy: McCassery and McCafferty - and McCaffery From: GUEST Date: 09 Feb 21 - 07:02 AM If he was "18 years of age" and that 1842 date has any validity, it could well be about 1861, when the blockade of the Confederate South was taking hold. Lancashire was highly dependent on slave cotton, and may mills were on short time or closed. For a young man without family support, joining the army might seem an option preferable to starvation. This period gave rise to other compositions, including Samuel Laycock's Welcome, Bonny Brid- a poem about the additional stress on an already stretched family, due to the birth of another child. |
Subject: RE: DTStudy: McCassery and McCafferty - and McCaffery From: GUEST,henryp Date: 09 Feb 21 - 09:46 AM Eventually [McCaffery] returned to Mossley and was employed in a Stalybridge cotton mill as a piecer. It was this job that he left on October 10th 1860 to take the Queen's shilling and enlist in the 32nd (Cornwall) Regiment of Foot (Light Infantry). After enlistment he was sent to Fulwood to train with 11 Depot Battalion and then posted to 12 Coy, the 32nd Regiment. (Lancashire Infantry Museum) The Lancashire Cotton Famine, also known as the Cotton Famine or the Cotton Panic (1861–65), was a depression in the textile industry of North West England, brought about by overproduction in a time of contracting world markets. It coincided with the interruption of baled cotton imports caused by the American Civil War and speculators buying up new stock for storage in the shipping warehouses at the entrepôt. The boom years of 1859 and 1860 had produced more woven cotton than could be sold and a cutback in production was needed. The situation was exacerbated by an overabundance of raw cotton held in the warehouses and dockyards of the ports and the market was flooded with finished goods, causing the price to collapse, while at the same time the demand for raw cotton fell. The price for raw cotton increased by several hundred percent due to blockade and lack of imports. The inaccessibility of raw cotton and the difficult trading conditions caused a change in the social circumstances of the Lancashire region's extensive cotton mill workforce. Factory owners no longer bought large quantities of raw cotton to process and large parts of Lancashire and the surrounding areas' workers became unemployed and went from being the most prosperous workers in Britain to the most impoverished. (Lancashire Cotton Famine, Wikipedia) |
Subject: RE: DTStudy: McCassery and McCafferty - and McCaffery From: Richard Mellish Date: 09 Feb 21 - 09:58 AM This thread gives me an opportunity to contribute Pete Nalder's supplementary moral to the song. Now all young squaddies, come listen to me. Take your small arms drill a little more seriously. So, when you're shooting, you can be sure You'll hit the bastard that you're aiming for. |
Subject: RE: DTStudy: McCassery and McCafferty - and McCaffery From: GUEST,Nick Dow Date: 09 Feb 21 - 12:23 PM I collected a few verses from an old cowman called George Hirst in Dorset 1985. No new words, but he believed that you could be sent to the glass house for singing it. |
Subject: RE: DTStudy: McCassery and McCafferty - and McCaffery From: GUEST Date: 11 Feb 21 - 04:44 AM If Henryp is right, McCaffer(t)y must have some other reason to abandon secure employment and enlist. Soldiering was very much a last- choice option after Crimea. Even at the height of Imperial jingo it was looked down on (except for officers of course)= see Kipling, "It's Tommy this and Tommy that..." |
Subject: RE: DTStudy: McCassery and McCafferty - and McCaffery From: GUEST,henryp Date: 11 Feb 21 - 08:58 AM McCaffery, it appears, was a drifter. Patrick McCaffery was born in Co. Kildare in October 1842. His father was an asylum governor who, upon being cleared of charges of misconduct, took off alone for America. Mrs. McCaffery was unable to support the boy, so she sent him to England to stay with a friend, Mrs. Murphy of Mossley near Manchester, where, at the age of 12, he started work in the mill. After a while he left the mill and drifted to Liverpool where he seems to have had occasional minor brushes with the police. During this time he befriended a police constable who was to reappear briefly later in his life. Eventually he returned to Mossley and was employed in a Stalybridge cotton mill as a piecer. It was this job that he left on October 10th 1860 to take the Queen's shilling and enlist in the 32nd (Cornwall) Regiment of Foot (Light Infantry). After enlistment he was sent to Fulwood to train with 11 Depot Battalion and then posted to 12 Coy, the 32nd Regiment. (Lancashire Regimental Museum; A Fearful Tragedy) The American Civil War - and blockade of the South - did not affect the cotton industry until late 1861. The impact of the conflict on the Lancashire cotton industry took some time to take effect. On 17th April 1861 Fort Sumter fell to the Confederate forces. There had been a 4 months supply of cotton in Liverpool on New Year's Day 1861. During the next months imports continued as normal and a 5 month supply had been accumulated. It was a generally held view that the war would not last long and that stocks were sufficient to see the industry through. The North blockaded the southern ports, but cotton prices remained steady throughout that year and only at the end did speculators in cotton become active. However by October 1861 mills in Lancashire began to run on short time, or to close altogether and applications for help to the poor law unions began to flood in. (Cotton Town; The Cotton Famine) |
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