Pogues Slang: Dilly, Tuinol?

Subject: Pogues Slang: Dilly, Tuinol?
From: Peter T.
Date: 09 Jun 03 - 03:11 PM

Dilly? Tuinol (is this a drug?)? These are, I am sure, well known terms to some, but not to North Americans, or this NA -- from The Pogues, "The Old Main Drag". Any help? yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: Pogues Slang: Dilly, Tuinol?
From: Henrik W.
Date: 09 Jun 03 - 03:21 PM

Check out this excellent Pougetry site:

http://www.poguetry.com/rsl.htm

Henrik W

Subject: RE: Pogues Slang: Dilly, Tuinol?
From: jeffp
Date: 09 Jun 03 - 03:22 PM

According to this site, tuinol is a barbiturate drug and Dilly refers probably to Picadilly Circus.

Subject: RE: Pogues Slang: Dilly, Tuinol?
From: jeffp
Date: 09 Jun 03 - 03:22 PM

We both found the same site. Great minds and all that.

Subject: RE: Pogues Slang: Dilly, Tuinol?
From: Peter T.
Date: 09 Jun 03 - 03:34 PM

Amazing site. A real labour of love. yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: Pogues Slang: Dilly, Tuinol?
From: Big Tim
Date: 10 Jun 03 - 02:57 AM

The dilly is definitely Piccadilly Circus in London: an area with a bad reputation for drugs and prostitution.

This on "Billy in the bowl" from a book called "Naming Names: Who, What, Where in Irish Nomenclature" by Bernard Sharpe, Gill & Macmillan, Dublin, 2001.

"Billy in the bowl [nickname] C19 Dub.[lin] street character. 1913 James Collins 'Life in Old Dublin' - this character used to ply his calling between the quiet streets of Stoneybatter and the Green Lanes of Grangegorman. He was nicknamed 'Billy in the Bowl', having been introduced into the world with only a head, body and arms. When he grew up he conveyed himself along in a large bowl fortified by iron, in which he was embedded".

Subject: RE: Pogues Slang: Dilly, Tuinol?
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 10 Jun 03 - 03:05 AM

Tuinal is (or was--I'm not up on the latest) one of the more commonly abused barbiturates. It's a combination of amobarbital (Amytal) and secobarbital (Seconal). Some clever drug company marketing person named it Tuinal because it's two (clap) two (clap) two barbs in one!

Aloha,
Mark

Subject: RE: Pogues Slang: Dilly, Tuinol?
From: jeffp
Date: 10 Jun 03 - 08:51 AM

LOL, Mark!

Subject: RE: Pogues Slang: Dilly, Tuinol?
From: GUEST,Robertson
Date: 21 Mar 08 - 06:45 AM

This is a barbiturate sedative and was widely used as a recreational drug in the 1970's

Subject: RE: Pogues Slang: Dilly, Tuinol?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 22 Mar 08 - 05:55 AM

The late Lenny Bruce was a user of Tuinol. the contents of Lenny's drug stash are discussed at length in Goldman's biography.

Subject: RE: Pogues Slang: Dilly, Tuinol?
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 22 Mar 08 - 06:19 AM

I once got nabbed by a copper in The Dilly over a bottle of aspirin!! I was new to England at the time and didn't realise the significance of where I was... must've been acting suspicious or something. He blocked me and asked what I was going to use it for, and when I told him (truthfully) that I had a headache, this answer seemed to strike him as the most bizarre and outlandish of fictions.

Unaccustomed as I am to being arrested, I finally handed the bottle to him and told him he could have it, as long as he left me two tablets for my headache. He let me go then, though very reluctantly. There you have it, folks, My Life As A Criminal - it probably wouldn't have happened in the 'burbs.

Subject: RE: Pogues Slang: Dilly, Tuinol?
From: GUEST,newfie_bullet
Date: 15 Apr 08 - 12:34 PM

dilly is obviously the pic.
sheesh man

Subject: RE: Pogues Slang: Dilly, Tuinol?
From: GUEST,newfie_bullet
Date: 15 Apr 08 - 12:36 PM

Picadilly is also a (dirty) strip joint in st. johns's.

Subject: RE: Pogues Slang: Dilly, Tuinol?
From: Nerd
Date: 15 Apr 08 - 03:17 PM

"A (dirty) strip joint?"

Do you guys have clean strip joints up there? Do the girls wear two dresses and just remove the outer one?

Subject: RE: Pogues Slang: Dilly, Tuinol?
From: quokka
Date: 16 Apr 08 - 02:57 AM

Love that Poguetry site - it's brilliant!

Subject: RE: Pogues Slang: Dilly, Tuinol?
From: glueman
Date: 16 Apr 08 - 03:07 AM

The 'Dilly ref is a rent boy one I think; young males, not necessarily homosexual, prostituting for older gay men for housing and food money.

Subject: RE: Pogues Slang: Dilly, Tuinol?
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Jan 09 - 08:20 PM

Yes it is a drug. I was wondering the same thing. Tuinal (or Tuinol as it is sometimes colloquially misspelled) saw widespread use as a recreational drug in the 1960s and 1970s. Tuinal is the brand name of a combination drug composed of two barbiturate salts (secobarbital sodium and amobarbital sodium) in equal proportions.
Tuinal was introduced as a sedative medication in the late 1940s by Eli Lilly. It was produced in gelatin capsule form for oral administration. Individual capsules contained 50mg, 100mg, or 200mg of barbiturate salts.

Subject: RE: Pogues Slang: Dilly, Tuinol etc ?
From: GUEST,A Guest
Date: 10 Jul 09 - 06:03 AM

YES .. The blue and red capsules of Tuinal are sleeping tablets - theyare classed as CD (controled drug) and have to have a separate
handwritten prescription written by Dr to be able to get the.

I am disabled and have been on them since the 1970's, because of the
very much pain I suffer, I really can't can't sleep without them.

Now my Dr has informed me TUINAL is no longer being made/manufactured
any (from now), he has cut my prescription off with just one days notice ... so I can no longer get any Tuinal ... how can I begin to manage with no sleep aid, Dr's said they have known for many months Tuinal is not being made any more, so WHY didn't they tell me much earlier, one day is not long enough for me to re-adjust to being without them... I'm Disgusted !!
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