Jean Sackett and the Texarkana Wranglers

Subject: RE: This Forum & American Folk Music
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 12:59 AM

My mother wrote this song! I have a recording on a 45 in the early to mid 50-s. I don't know who "bonnie Blue Eyes" is and don't really care. This song was written by Jean Sackett and recorded in Dallas, TX. I bellieve the man, and I have the information, ripped off my mom!

Anyone heard of Jean Sackett and the Texarkana Wranglers?

Please contact me. She is now 80 and in poor health. She deserves recognition for her contribution to to this websight! I was shocked to find HER song at all.

Long, long, story,
Prideful Drummer Daughter
Debbie

Subject: RE: This Forum & American Folk Music
From: John O'L
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 01:07 AM

What song? What man? What websight? What song? Long long story? I'm all ears.

Subject: RE: This Forum & American Folk Music
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 01:13 AM

Debbie:

Which song are you referring to? -- I seem to have lost the thread, sorry.

What can you tell us about your Mom's experiences? Sounds like they were rich, and it also sounds like she has a daughter to be proud of!

A

Subject: RE: This Forum & American Folk Music
From: Big Mick
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 11:09 AM

Are you talking about THIS SONG? Please provide more details of your Mom's work if so. This could be interesting.

Mick

Subject: RE: Jean Sackett and the Texarkana Wranglers
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 10:56 PM

Debbie, I moved your message into its own thread because it had nothing to do with the thread where you posted it. I hope you find this thread and return and tell us what song you're talking about. We're confused.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Jean Sackett and the Texarkana Wranglers
From: catspaw49
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 10:59 PM

I have enjoyed watching this little drama develop and I wait to see if it plays out to be anything. Nary a word on the net about any of this.................

Spaw

Subject: RE: This Forum & American Folk Music
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 11:04 PM

I think we've lost her...

Art

Subject: RE: Jean Sackett and the Texarkana Wranglers
From: catspaw49
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 11:11 PM

I'd like to have known what song she was talking about. I don't think Mick has it right or she would have known sbout "Bonnie." Interesting post.............

Spaw

Subject: RE: Jean Sackett and the Texarkana Wranglers
From: Big Mick
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 11:17 PM

I don't know if I do either, spaw, but I just did a supersearch and that's what I found. They indicate the arrangement belongs to AC but not authorship. I sure hope she shows back up.

Mick

Subject: RE: Jean Sackett and the Texarkana Wranglers
From: Jeri
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 11:25 PM

Huh, Spaw? I read it that she doesn't know who the person referred to as 'Bonnie blue eyes' was. Of course, if it WAS that song, the Carter Family recorded it in the 1930s. Maybe Debbie's documentation goes back earlier, but copyright ownership isn't something Mudcat can determine.

Subject: RE: Jean Sackett and the Texarkana Wranglers
From: Jeri
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 11:27 PM

Mick, I found it on the web attributed to 'trad'.

Subject: RE: Jean Sackett and the Texarkana Wranglers
From: Big Mick
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 11:47 PM

yep, the link above takes you to a thread that lists it as

BONNIE BLUE EYES
(Trad. arr. A. P. Carter)


Mick

Subject: RE: Jean Sackett and the Texarkana Wranglers
From: John O'L
Date: 04 Jun 06 - 12:28 AM

Here you can listen to a snippet of Bonnie Blue Eyes which seems to have different lyrics from the Carter song, and which is credited to Dave Fredrickson.

Could this be what Debbie's talking about?

Subject: RE: Jean Sackett and the Texarkana Wranglers
From: catspaw49
Date: 04 Jun 06 - 08:52 AM

Jeri.....I read that differently and after going back and reading it repeatedly I see what the rest of you read..........major "duh" here I guess. Doesn't help the fact I'm still confused.........then again, what's new about that?

Spaw

Subject: RE: Jean Sackett and the Texarkana Wranglers
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 04 Jun 06 - 06:21 PM

Well Spaw, it's not like you got your finger on a Big Red Button for launching Thermo-Nuclear War or anything really important, is it?

Subject: RE: Jean Sackett and the Texarkana Wranglers
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jun 06 - 09:17 PM

Dang! I wisht Debbi would come back and clarify!


A

Subject: RE: Jean Sackett and the Texarkana Wranglers
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Jun 06 - 01:22 AM

Hey Fool......Got this from kat the other day.............

Rumsfeld is reporting to the President and the Cabinet. He says, "Three Brazilian soldiers were killed today in Iraq."

The President says,"Oh, my God!" as he buries his head in his hands. The entire Cabinet is stunned. Usually George W. shows no reaction whatsoever to these reports. Just then, Bush looks up and says, "How many is a brazilian??"

Spaw

Subject: RE: Jean Sackett and the Texarkana Wranglers
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 05 Jun 06 - 06:47 AM

ROFLMAOANSM!

Subject: RE: Jean Sackett and the Texarkana Wranglers
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 05 Jun 06 - 03:37 PM

Wow, that's more than an Armenian.

(...if we stall long enough, she might come back to us...)

Subject: RE: Jean Sackett and the Texarkana Wranglers
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jun 06 - 08:06 PM

I think it equals one point threezikistans. But that could be old-style zikistans.


A

Subject: RE: Jean Sackett and the Texarkana Wranglers
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 05 Jun 06 - 08:12 PM

So just what was Marty's sister's name then?

Subject: RE: Jean Sackett and the Texarkana Wranglers
From: Richard Brandenburg
Date: 05 Jun 06 - 10:21 PM

No threadjack intended, but the name of a dear friend comes up in a curious thread... I'm going to be playing music in a couple of nights with Dave Fredrickson, and will ask him about this song, and where he learned it.

Dave's a singer of Western songs, from the Central Valley of California. His website is www.davefredrickson.net. He's around the same age as Guest Debbie's mother, and learned much of his material from the radio in the thirties and forties. Who knows... he may even have heard a recording of Jean Sackett and the Texarcana Ramblers.
Here's the song on his 1962 Folkways album:

BONNIE BLUE EYES

Learned from the Randolph Collection (IV, 209-10) with verses added from "My Last Gold Dollar" (IV, 114.)

Good-bye little bonnie blue eyes
Good-bye little bonnie blue eyes
I'll see you again but God knows when
Good-bye little bonnie blue eyes.

I'm leavin' on the railroad train
I'm leavin' on the railroad train
Oh I love you God knows I do
But I'm leavin' on the railroad train.

I'm goin' out west this fall
I'm goin' out west this fall
I'm goin' out west I'll leave the one that I love best,
Little bonnie don't ya weep for me.

I'll sail on the ocean blue
I'll sail on the ocean blue
On the ocean blue I'll think about you
But I'll sail on the ocean blue.

Good-bye little bonnie blue eyes
Good-bye little bonnie blue eyes
I'll see you again but God knows when
Good-bye little bonnie blue eyes.

I must travel on down the line
I must travel on down the line
I love you my dear and I want you near
But I must travel on down the line.

Put your hand in mine
Just put your little hand in mine
If you love me like I love you
Just put your little hand in mine.

My last gold dollar is gone
My last gold dollar is gone
My board bill's due and my whiskey bill is too
But my last gold dollar is gone.

Back to first verse.

Subject: RE: Jean Sackett and the Texarkana Wranglers
From: John O'L
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 02:08 AM

Refresh

Subject: RE: Jean Sackett and the Texarkana Wranglers
From: Gene
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 01:57 PM

Could she be referring to a recording By
Bonnie Blue Eyes
rather than the song Bonnie Blue Eyes?

Bob Atcher
Born 1914 in Hardin County, KY. Died Oct 31, 1993. Bob Atcher was one of the most popular country music entertainers of the post-World War II era, enjoying a 21 year career at OKeh and Columbia Records, as well as major radio stardom on WLS's National Barn Dance out of Chicago. His range of material ran from traditional country and comic novelty songs to folk.

By the early 1930's, he'd made his debut on radio on WHAS out of Louisville, and over the next few years appeared on several small stations across the south and midwest. In 1939, Atcher got his first big break and when he got a regular spot on WGBM in Chicago, a daily program that was picked up nationally by the CBS radio network.

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During the years 1939-42, many of Atcher's singles were credited to duets with "Bonnie Blue Eyes" (aka Loretta Applegate)-their records together included the comical "Answer to You Are My Sunshine" and "Pins and Needles (In My Heart)."

Atcher made his biggest career move in 1948 when he joined the Chicago National Barn Dance on WLS. At that time, the National Barn Dance was still one of the two biggest showcases for country music, and he became one of the show's most popular stars over the next 10 years. Atcher left Columbia in 1950 for Capitol Records, and later recorded for Kapp Records. He remained a star on the National Barn Dance into the 1960's, and later rejoined Columbia Records.