Music of the people..Don't make me laugh

Subject: RE: Music of the people..Don't make me laugh
From: Mr Happy
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 07:51 AM

......kind've squeezeable innit?

Subject: RE: Music of the people..Don't make me laugh
From: artbrooks
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 08:17 AM

Spleen Cringe, an "Anglo", to someone in the US living in a Hispanic or Hispanic-tinted culture, is anyone who isn't Hispanic. It has nothing at all to do with the language spoken. Here in Albuquerque, a Polish immigrant who speaks no English would be considered an Anglo, while a descendant of the original Spanish colonists, who speaks only English, would not.

Subject: RE: Music of the people..Don't make me laugh
From: Will Fly
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 08:23 AM

Here in Albuquerque, a Polish immigrant who speaks no English would be considered an Anglo, while a descendant of the original Spanish colonists, who speaks only English, would not.

How on earth would you know whether a man speaking colloquial American English in Albuquerque was a descendant of the original Spanish colonists? Is it considered important over there? Not trying to be controversial, Art - just genuinely curious.

Subject: RE: Music of the people..Don't make me laugh
From: Charmion
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 09:31 AM

I live in Ottawa, the capital of Canada. It is the only major city the Ottawa Valley, a large district that extends from Lake Nippissing to the Saint Lawrence River and comprises some of western Quebec as well as eastern Ontario. Except for pockets of Polish and Finnish settlement, its rural areas resemble Nova Scotia and New Brunswick in both poverty and ethnic make-up.

Here in the Valley, "Anglo" or "English" typically means "The Man" -- the well-dressed members of the managerial class. It means the people who ran the paper mill that closed and threw the bread-winner of your family out of a job. It means the banker who won't extend your equipment loan. It means the people who make the government policies that seem carefully designed to prevent you from collecting pogey.

The actual ethnicity and personal history of those individuals is irrelevant; in fact, eastern Ontario managers are often bilingual francophones from blue-collar backgrounds who are themselves only two pay-cheques from deep trouble. The source of friction is not their language or their heritage, but their access to opportunities that others want and cannot quite seem to grasp.

Subject: RE: Music of the people..Don't make me laugh
From: artbrooks
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 09:54 AM

Colonial descendants most often have Spanish surnames. There are about twenty very common ones associated with the Spanish pioneers. They are not all dark haired, brown eyed and olive complected, either.

Subject: RE: Music of the people..Don't make me laugh
From: Lighter
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 09:59 AM

Will, about the only way you'd know would be if the person has told you.

But what artbrooks says is true, though possibly most true in the Southwest. Are such things important over here? To many people, Hispanic and otherwise, yes. The reason is that areat many "Anglos" have always looked down on and discriminated against Hispanics - along with other non-British or Northern European ethnic minorities.

Subject: RE: Music of the people..Don't make me laugh
From: GUEST,999
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 09:00 PM

No man is an island . . . .

Well, there's the Isle of Man, but that's an exseptshun/excepption/exceptshun extenuating abnormality. And I ask why Antarctica is not an island but rather a continent? And where are women in all this? As for the thread starter's original choice of title for this thread? I wouldn't think of it.

Subject: RE: Music of the people..Don't make me laugh
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 09:18 PM

For a good laugh, I recommend renting all of Charlie Chaplin's original films and watching them in chronological order.

Subject: RE: Music of the people..Don't make me laugh
From: GUEST,999
Date: 10 Feb 10 - 09:19 PM

I'm with you. But for me it's WC Fields.