Check this out, she is one of ours

Subject: Check this out, she is one of ours
From: skipy
Date: 15 Apr 08 - 05:51 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iONEa2XKmDY
Such bottle! How I wish she was NOT there singing this!
Skipy

Subject: RE: Check this out, she is one of ours
From: Big Mick
Date: 15 Apr 08 - 06:04 PM

Lovely voice. When you say "one of us" are you referring to being a Mudcatter or British? If a Mudcatter, I am curious as to who. I am not sure why you are so troubled by her being there singing. Whether you were for the war, or against it, still the lass lost her Dad and is singing for him. I did't hear anything for or against the war in the song, or anything glorifying it. It was just a girl singing for her Dad. I enjoyed it, and was saddened by it all at once.

All the best,

Mick

Subject: RE: Check this out, she is one of ours
From: CET
Date: 15 Apr 08 - 06:04 PM

I agree. Enormous courage (and real talent). I have to say that the song itself does nothing for me, but that doesn't detract from my respect for the singer, or for the memory of her father, and the others who died.

Subject: RE: Check this out, she is one of ours
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 15 Apr 08 - 06:09 PM

Very moving. Irrespective of what one thinks of the Falklands war, its origins and its execution, the fallen need to be remembered and Major Nutbeem did a fine job of that. I hope my daughter will remember me this way some day, not necessarily in public, but in her heart and with her voice.

Subject: RE: Check this out, she is one of ours
From: Megan L
Date: 15 Apr 08 - 06:18 PM

In 1983 my new husband and I stood in a small churchyard in Wales looking sadly at a row of shiny gravestones each had the age of the young man each one had been on the Galahad. I remembered thinking that somewhere in Argentina someone could be standing beside a row of graves or a memorial for equally young lads from the Belgrano.


See my name all you who pass by
As you are now so once was I.
I was a son whose mother wept
I was the husband whose wife kept
A light in the window lest I should come
To find my way once more back home.
I was the brother whose sisters tears
shall wash my stone
I was the lover who will not come
the one who left you here alone.
I am your love
the memory that will not die
My name it matters not anymore
Rhys or Ramone we are the same
In death, a memory and nothing more

MHTBL

Subject: RE: Check this out, she is one of ours
From: Big Mick
Date: 15 Apr 08 - 06:22 PM

Given what I know of you, George, I think you need not worry much.

All the best,

Mick

Subject: RE: Check this out, she is one of ours
From: skipy
Date: 15 Apr 08 - 06:26 PM

Please keep any strife out of this thread! By "one of ours" I simply mean she is part of the U/k folk world & performed at the Oxford Folk Festival just last weekend. My thoughts on the then war or now do not matter one ioata! I was in the mod then, but not called to the war, so please DON'T let this become political in anyway! Keep your opinions close to your heart, this is only about the voice & the bottle.
Skipy

Subject: RE: Check this out, she is one of ours
From: ClaireBear
Date: 15 Apr 08 - 06:39 PM

As a speaker of U.S. English, I am not sure what "bottle" means in this context, and I'd like to know.

I do love that song.

Claire

Subject: RE: Check this out, she is one of ours
From: maeve
Date: 15 Apr 08 - 06:40 PM

Thanks for pointing this out for us, skipy. I'm not able to see the clip, but I'm sure many others will be glad they took a look.

Subject: RE: Check this out, she is one of ours
From: Surreysinger
Date: 15 Apr 08 - 07:00 PM

Rick Kemp's song,isn't it?

Claire ... "bottle" in this context could probably be construed as "courage" "guts" etc.

Subject: RE: Check this out, she is one of ours
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 15 Apr 08 - 07:06 PM

And don't we all wish that her father and all the other fathers and sons who died in that war hadn't been killed, and that there had been no reason for her to be there singing that song on that occasion?

And that wish isn't coloured by what we think about think about how that war came about.

Subject: RE: Check this out, she is one of ours
From: kendall
Date: 15 Apr 08 - 07:12 PM

Lovely. Thanks for posting this.

Subject: RE: Check this out, she is one of ours
From: Beer
Date: 15 Apr 08 - 07:15 PM

Wonderful, wonderful voice and pleasing to the eye. Very moving song as well.
Beer (adrien)

Subject: RE: Check this out, she is one of ours
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 15 Apr 08 - 07:15 PM

Skipy - have you, by any chance, posted this because you've booked Vinegar Tom for your White Horse festival in August? (And Kathryn sang it to close the Vinegar Tom set on the Cornbury stage at Oxford on Saturday.)

Kitty (who thought she'd already posted, but the post seems to have disappeared)

Subject: RE: Check this out, she is one of ours
From: Amos
Date: 15 Apr 08 - 10:27 PM

Damn, my screen got all out of focus for a minute there.

Thanks for the clip, Skipy.


A

Subject: RE: Check this out, she is one of ours
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Apr 08 - 11:23 PM

For those who have never heard it, here is one other very moving song about the Falklands war...(sorry, only a midi file for melody) The song was recorded by "The Boarding Party" and sung by Bob Hitchcock, formerly of Sussex.

Survivor Leave

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Or check the Digital Tradition, as Dick Greenhaus would say...
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Check this out, she is one of ours
From: Janie
Date: 15 Apr 08 - 11:39 PM

What Amos said.

Subject: RE: Check this out, she is one of ours
From: GUEST,Willie-O
Date: 16 Apr 08 - 08:27 AM

I believe her father's obit was in Sing Out! at the time...check early 80's issues.

W-O

Subject: RE: Check this out, she is one of ours
From: skipy
Date: 16 Apr 08 - 01:22 PM

Hi HK, no she is not booked for WHFF, however they are performing at Folkforms!
Skipy

Subject: RE: Check this out, she is one of ours
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 16 Apr 08 - 03:09 PM

Skipy - so I wasn't a million miles out then!

This has also reminded me that we never found out who the young lady was who sang beautifully, unaccompanied and unamplified, at the Menin Gate in Ypres when we were there with Hovering Bob for the Flanders Experience....

Kitty

Subject: RE: Check this out, she is one of ours
From: the lemonade lady
Date: 16 Apr 08 - 05:43 PM

That was wonderful, I enjoyed that performance so much.

thanks for attracting my attention to it.

Sal

Subject: RE: Check this out, she is one of ours
From: GUEST,Bob
Date: 16 Apr 08 - 05:55 PM

Her father, Roger Nutbeem, Captain Nutbeem as he was then known, used to be a popular singer in folk clubs around the Godalming/ Farnham/ Fleet area in the 70s. He was in the Army medical side. Maggie Holland dedicates the song Coshieville to him on her recent Bones CD as they were both learning it at the time he went off to the Falklands. Not long after the war, Dick Gaughan made a flippant remark in one of the local clubs about how only the footsoldiers suffer and die in wars, never the officers, and wondered why there was a chilled silence. I believe somebody took him aside and told him in the interval because he had the typically good grace to apologise at the beginning of the second half.

It's lovely to see Roger's daughter being so courageous.

Subject: RE: Check this out, she is one of ours
From: Ref
Date: 16 Apr 08 - 07:11 PM

Good song. Great performance. I'd like to see and HEAR more of that lovely young woman!

Subject: RE: Check this out, she is one of ours
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 17 Apr 08 - 11:33 AM

Very moving. Thanks for posting, Skipy.

Best wishes,

Peter

Subject: RE: Check this out, she is one of ours
From: sapper82
Date: 17 Apr 08 - 11:45 AM

Was in tears watching it, am nearly in tears just thinking about it.
A lovely and VERY brave lass.
I'd love to see and hear more of her.

Subject: RE: Check this out, she is one of ours
From: Mr Red
Date: 17 Apr 08 - 01:26 PM

I can't keep it anywhere other than close to my heart. It's tugging.

Subject: RE: Check this out, she is one of ours
From: BB
Date: 17 Apr 08 - 02:37 PM

Bill D, Survivor Leave was written by Ken Stephens of Southampton, not Ken Steven as the web page says. I was listening to a recording of him singing it recently, and it is indeed very moving, and in many ways just as relevant to today as it was then.

Barbara

Subject: RE: Check this out, she is one of ours
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 17 Apr 08 - 02:54 PM

I expect to be seeing Ken Stephens this weekend at Crediton festival....

Kitty