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Subject: what is the best guitar for open tunings From: GUEST Date: 11 Oct 05 - 09:32 AM |
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Subject: RE: what is the best guitar for open tunings From: GUEST Date: 11 Oct 05 - 09:40 AM For English/Irish Trad, a Lowden. For bottleneck Blues, a National Resonator. For Country, Bluegrass, and Hawaiian, a Lap Dobro Resonator. I hope you have plenty of money. |
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Subject: RE: what is the best guitar for open tunings From: Mooh Date: 11 Oct 05 - 09:47 AM Best? Whatever sounds good to you. Experiment. Having said that, many guitars sound better tuned down a bit so some non-standard tunings will work well. Look for what many altered tuning players are using and go from there. Peace, Mooh. |
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Subject: RE: what is the best guitar for open tunings From: Strollin' Johnny Date: 11 Oct 05 - 10:37 AM That's like asking 'what's the best car for driving west'! Mooh's right - try some, try a lot, and pick the one that starts your motor the best. S:0) |
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Subject: RE: what is the best guitar for open tunings From: rhyzla Date: 11 Oct 05 - 10:46 AM Strangely tho', my Lowden sounds better than my other guitars in dadgad, and yet tuned normally is about the same at the others. Does anyone agree with the notion that guitars (particularly tops) become 'familiar' with certain notes, and ring more? Or is that just borrocks? |
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Subject: RE: what is the best guitar for open tunings From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker Date: 11 Oct 05 - 10:47 AM Danelectro 12 string Jerry Jones / MD Star / Danelectro Sitar Danelectro Baritone Danelectro Convertable Goldtone Banjitar Harmony Singing Cowboy Guitar .. and anything else with the name Danelectro in it |
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Subject: RE: what is the best guitar for open tunings From: kendall Date: 11 Oct 05 - 10:48 AM An Apollo 12 string tuned down to "D". |
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Subject: RE: what is the best guitar for open tunings From: Midchuck Date: 11 Oct 05 - 10:53 AM I recall a concert by a lady singer-songwriter - I can't even remember who it was - who came on stage with a Martin dread and a Taylor Grand Auditorium. I said, "I bet the Martin is tuned to standard and the Taylor to DADGAD or some open tuning." I was right for once. I don't know anything about Apollo guitars, but I agree with Kendall (hoping it doesn't go to his head): A 12 is great for DADGAD. If I still had one, I'd leave it tuned that way. Six different Ds and four As. That's a lot of harmonic reinforcement. And with so many unisons and octaves, you can tune it in a finite length of time. Peter |
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Subject: RE: what is the best guitar for open tunings From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker Date: 11 Oct 05 - 11:03 AM one of the benefits of G.A.S... danelectro 12 string electric & jerry Jones sitar permanently in DADGAD 12 string telecaster copy permanently in mandola'ish tuning washburn A10 heavy metal 12 string permanently in E min Goldtone electric banjitar permanently in G min anything else in whatever i fancy whenever i'm in the mood |
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Subject: RE: what is the best guitar for open tunings From: kendall Date: 11 Oct 05 - 01:43 PM I've had an Apollo 12 for 30 years and I wouldn't trade it for the very best Martin, Taylor or any other brand. |
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Subject: RE: what is the best guitar for open tunings From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 11 Oct 05 - 08:29 PM With 'classical music' instruments such as violins, it is believed that the more the instrument is played, the more the wood is modified by the vibrations to be in sympathy with them. |
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Subject: RE: what is the best guitar for open tunings From: Bobert Date: 11 Oct 05 - 08:54 PM Any guitar with strings... Standard tunin' is such a bore.... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: what is the best guitar for open tunings From: DonMeixner Date: 11 Oct 05 - 09:58 PM Kendall, I'll bet you are talking about a Nick Apollonio 12? I have never heard a 12 string with the throb and purr that those Apollonio 12 strings have. The one I played 30,000,000 years ago had a cedar top on it big enough to shingle a barn and it was tuned to open "D". Otherwise, any good guitar has the ability to sound great in an open tuning. My 0-16 sounds exceptional in "G". But the instrument seems to have an affinty to the vibration of a G note. A friend blew a scale with his clarinet into the sound hole on the little Martin and when he hit a G the guitar just rebounded back a G tone. (Non believers try this yourselves before you serve me a ration of shit please) I think any well balanced tonally guitar will sound good in DADGAD. Don |
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Subject: RE: what is the best guitar for open tunings From: Bobert Date: 11 Oct 05 - 10:05 PM Awww, heck with them melba milk taost opens... Try on EBEBBE fir grins... Yeah, this one will get yer attention... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: what is the best guitar for open tunings From: DonMeixner Date: 11 Oct 05 - 10:17 PM Bobert, you are a mean and spiteful man. Go to this site: http://sniff.numachi.com/~rickheit/pm/chord/chord and type in Bobert's tuning, I'd love this tuning if my fingers could get those 4 fret reaches. Don |
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Subject: RE: what is the best guitar for open tunings From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 11 Oct 05 - 11:24 PM All guitars (no talent necessary) but six preferred.
If you can't lift one out of the back seat of a Lexus....or go to TJ.
Perhaps, http://www.guitarshop.net/ will have this side of larceny.
Sincerely, |
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Subject: RE: what is the best guitar for open tunings From: mooman Date: 12 Oct 05 - 02:44 PM There is no "best" IMHO. Some guitars cut it in open tunings and some don't and it's not necessarily related to make. Same with standard tuning. Same with other instruments, e.g. OMs, citterns and 'zouks. You just have to try them all until you find the one that works for you. I use "unfashionable" makes in the main but they work for what I need! Concerning rhyzla's question above, I've noticed over many years that tops can become "accustomed" to a particular key. I know a lot of luthiers tap tune their materials to resonate with particular keys but can't explain the physics behind the "accustomization" (I'm only a mere biologist!). Maybe a resident physicist could chip in at this point....? Peace moo |
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Subject: RE: what is the best guitar for open tunings From: eleanor c Date: 13 Oct 05 - 07:48 AM My 2 centsworth: Sobell, Lowden, Ralph Bown, Nick Benjamin, all owned by outstanding exponents of Celtish open tuning virtuosity. Not cheap!! |
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Subject: RE: what is the best guitar for open tunings From: Peter T. Date: 13 Oct 05 - 08:33 AM The crucial thing for open tunings on acoustic guitars anyway is to get a cutaway or at least a 14 fretter. You often find yourself doing a lot of stuff with capos to get in synch with others (if you play with others), and with open D and G there are a lot of bar chords with other fingers playing upstream!!! yours, Peter T. |
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Subject: RE: what is the best guitar for open tunings From: GUEST,Mark W Date: 13 Oct 05 - 09:00 AM It's not really as easy as naming a particular guitar for any one job. What suits one person will not necessarily suit another. I would advise many happy hours sitting in good acoustic guitar shops (if they're really good they'll bring you coffee as well as all the stuff in your price range) trying stuff out. Even 2 guitars of the same model can feel very different 'in the hand'. Two shops I can really recommend if you are in the West Yorks area (or can get there) are the Music Room in Cleckheaton (this is the HQ shop and has a good range from all price points) and Eagle Music near Huddersfield. Websites are available for each of them with addresses. I have bought stuff from both places, and cannot fault their friendliness or knowledge. Once you've got your guitar, then there's the thorny issue of string gauge...... Oh well... |
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Subject: RE: what is the best guitar for open tunings From: Grab Date: 13 Oct 05 - 09:15 AM A 14-fretter is definitely a good move anyway generally for getting at the higher notes. I don't like cutaway acoustics though - I don't see the point in them. You can't get your thumb any further down than the end of the neck, so you can't play "normally" inside the cutaway. If I need to be up there, I find it's better just arching my fingers over down the fretboard, classical-style. And if you're doing that, you may as well have a full-body. Plus cutaways IMO don't sound as good. It's a bit different with electrics, where the body is the same thickness as the neck. There it makes sense, cos you can still use normal left-hand work. But for my money, the second Guest nailed the answer in one go. (And I've got half of those 3 - a Lowden for one, and a National copy counts as about 50% of a real National. ;-) Graham. |
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Subject: RE: what is the best guitar for open tunings From: Peace Date: 13 Oct 05 - 10:03 AM Best guitar for open tuning is your second guitar. |
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Subject: RE: what is the best guitar for open tunings From: Mooh Date: 13 Oct 05 - 10:28 AM There are some real advantages to lower tunings, as most "open" tunings are. My favourite guitar for non-standard tunings is a 27" scale baritone. It likes the lower register alot, accepts a capo well if necessary, and gives me some alternatives key-wise that I can't get with other guitars. Open G, Em, and DADGAD, dropped down 3 or frets are nice, and once in a while I reguage for CFCFCF. I also agree that 12 strings can sound great open tuned. Maybe I need another. Peace, Mooh. |
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Subject: RE: what is the best guitar for open tunings From: number 6 Date: 13 Oct 05 - 04:19 PM Open tunings for what? There is a whole gambit of open tunings for different scenarios/music. I'll have to go along with what Peace suggested .. get a second guitar open tune it to whatever ya want and take it from there. sIx |
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Subject: RE: what is the best guitar for open tunings From: Midchuck Date: 13 Oct 05 - 05:02 PM I'll have to go along with what Peace suggested .. get a second guitar open tune it to whatever ya want and take it from there. You risk ending up like Garnet Rogers. Ever see him unload for a gig? Peter. |
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Subject: RE: what is the best guitar for open tunings From: Guy Wolff Date: 13 Oct 05 - 05:43 PM I play a 1930's Kalamazoo is spanish or G tuneing DGDGBD I use a Diolian National for G and D tuning blues A Key Profesional for a lot of robert Johnson stuff in G & A I use a 00018 MC for DADGAD and D tuning ( Med/Heavey strings ) English /American Folk songs and tunes . Also an 018 in DGDGCD G sus 4 early dance tunes in all of the above tunings I use and 1845 John Ashburn \ All the best , Guy |
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Subject: RE: what is the best guitar for open tunings From: number 6 Date: 13 Oct 05 - 07:08 PM Gotcha Midcuck !! Good one !! Actually the only 'alternate tuning'I use is a dropped D, except for using D Modal on my 'souped up' Johnson resonator ... I guess my answer to this thread is a resonator guitar is best for 'open tunings'. sIx |
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Subject: RE: what is the best guitar for open tunings From: Pete_Standing Date: 14 Oct 05 - 12:14 PM I had my Nick Benjamin JOM in open D minor the other day and someone remarked that it sounded fantastic, but other tunings drew no comments. What is best? Depends on all sorts of preferences, so good for one person is not good for another. But I'd say in general, that as alterered tunings are usually dropped down from standard, that a longer scale with heavier strings will work better. |
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