Remember Les Cousins, in London's Soho?

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 11 Jul 03 - 06:53 AM

Cyril Tawney?

I read something about Meg Aikman recently, that's how I remembered. When I find the piece again, I'll post.

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: The Shambles
Date: 11 Jul 03 - 07:08 AM

Now, any suggestions for the 'old man outside the seamen's mission'?

It wasn't me - honest.

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 11 Jul 03 - 07:54 AM

Meg: she features in a retrospective of 60s London

http://www.thepurplegang.co.uk/history.htm

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: Kevin Sheils
Date: 11 Jul 03 - 09:23 AM

Thanks for the link countess it brought back loads of memories.

And a picture of Meg as well.....nostalgia

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 05 Jan 05 - 10:53 AM

I was talking to friend recently about Les Cousins and the conversation jogged a half-forgotten memory. I first visited Cousins in the summer of 1966. I went to an all-nighter featuring Alexis Korner ( with Danny Thompson on bass). At some point during the night, I was talking to a couple of young women who had been at the evening session which had featured John Renbourn, and I asked them what they had thought of John. " We were disappointed", they replied. I said that I'd heard that he was a great player. "Oh, his playing was fine", they replied, and then added, " but he wasn't as scruffy as we had hoped!". This remark was obviously an allusion to John's bohemian appearance on his first album cover.

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: breezy
Date: 05 Jan 05 - 12:09 PM

did Mox play with Murphy? So who was Shaggis? Yes I too recall meg, vaguely

OK now come to St Albans for a Friday or Sunday at the legion, the chairs are more comfy.

All those venues and no beer!!!

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 05 Jan 05 - 01:01 PM

Moxy of the long auburn hair played with several people, he used to work in a boutique sort of shop in Kingly Street next door to the Bag O' Nails club. I used to run a record shop in Carnaby Market and saw him around quite often, Shaggis is/was Davy Johnson who played banjo with Noel Murphy as Murph and Shaggis,and with Ron Chesterman on bass they performed as Draught Porridge. At that time he shared a flat in Richmond Surrey with Johhny Silvo, but he went on to play lead guitar with Elton John, and last time I saw Elton on TV Davey was credited as Musical Director. A mutual friend is desparately trying to get in touch with Davey.
Giok

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: GUEST,Hootenanny
Date: 05 Jan 05 - 06:19 PM

Does anyone have any memores of The Ballads and Blues Club during the late 50's and early sixties?

H.

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 05 Jan 05 - 07:18 PM

Didn't go that often as it was always an epic. We were at college in Grantham and on a Friday afternoon, we'd hitch down. For the 7.30 doors opening - then we'd sit in the tube going round the circle line for a lot of the night and walk around London the next day, spend time hanging round the National Porttrait Gallery or some fleapit cinema for the Saturday early show and then the all nighter. Then the next morning we got the tube out to High Barnet and hitched back. Stinking like a pig and snoring like an elephant, some drivers just kicked you out.... Baldock was the worst place to get kicked out, cos you couldn't get on the A1 there to hitch. You had to walk miles.....

Saw Spider John Koerner, Stefan Grossman, Wizz and Clive, that was the first time I heard Derek Brimstone tell the   - I told you it would take more than two red indians to shag Cheyenne Brodie joke, Davy Graham, Mudge and Clutterbuck, Al Stewart, Ralph of course, did I see Gerry Lockran there?.....and loads of other interesting people.

It was hopelesss trying to explain to grown ups why you were putting yourself through that kind of hassle and shit - just to go to a folk club. but if it were still there, I'd do it again tomorrow.

I think that was why it was so very painful to see folk music become so much a province of the terribly competent and politically correct curators of tradition. My heart still yearns for those wild coffee bar cowboys - who drew my generation in with their bohemian style, wit and above all ....passion for the acoustic guitar.

all the best

Big Al

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: Jeff Green
Date: 05 Jan 05 - 07:29 PM

Maybe thread drift - but I used to work at Lord Kitcheners Valet in Carnaby Court - and was an occasional visitor to the Folk Club at the Shakespeares Head(?) on the corner - wasn't Shaggis a regular there (late 60's early 70's)

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: breezy
Date: 05 Jan 05 - 07:40 PM

The most politically incorrect now runs folk clubs in s w herts!!!!

I remember long intervals, very long intervals.

Used to do the Troub, then the Prince of Wales wasnt that the B and Blues? the Black Horse was my first ever folk club.

Thanks Giok, didnt he do well!!!

One night had my car broken into and some tealeaf took my briefcase with a lot of college notes, Still passed though.Got the label back.
Waiting for the notes now. 1965.

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Jan 05 - 10:27 PM

I think that was why it was so very painful to see folk music become so much a province of the terribly competent and politically correct curators of tradition. My heart still yearns for those wild coffee bar cowboys - who drew my generation in with their bohemian style, wit and above all ....passion for the acoustic guitar.

Oh, some of the truest words Mudcat's ever given us!

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: GUEST,Mike of Northumbria, sans cookie
Date: 06 Jan 05 - 07:12 PM

"Ah yes, I remember it well!" (Maurice Chevallier)

"Tread softly, for you tread on my dreams" (W B Yeats)

Yes, they were golden days ... I was there too, and I still treasure the memories. But life goes on ... where's the action now? What are we all doing tomorrow night?

The best homage we can pay to all the heroes of yesteryear who are no longer with us is to keep the music alive - not to sit around reminiscing about how good it used to be.

Wassail!

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 06 Jan 05 - 07:39 PM

Well said Big Al, I'm of the opinion that too many festivals is largely to blame for the arrival of the Uberfolkie, and the demise of the all round good fun folk club.
Giok

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: The Shambles
Date: 10 Feb 05 - 01:55 PM

LES COUSINS REOPENS [09/02/05]

Legendary London music club Les Cousins is to reopen at a new venue on February 11th. The club resurfaced for two dates last November at its original venue of 49 Greek Street, Soho, more than thirty years since it closed its doors, but now moves to a new home at Bush Hall, 310 Uxbridge Road, to take advantage of the venue's grand piano and excellent acoustic environment. Veteran guitarist Michael Chapman tops the bill, supported by rock and roll band Easy Tiger and Behind The Sun, who play a mixture of original material and late sixties English folk-rock. Remembered as the cradle of the singer-songwriter-guitarist explosion of the mid to late sixties, Cousins' existence spanned April 1965 to the early weeks of 1970 and witnessed the early careers of Bert Jansch, Sandy Denny, Nick Drake, John Renbourn, Paul Simon and Art Garfunkel, Davy Graham, John Martyn, Al Stewart, Roy Harper, Michael Chapman, Wizz Jones and many others. More details at the Les Cousins and Bush Hall websites

The above from the BBC Radio 2 folk site.

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: GUEST,Scouse (Cookie's gone walkabout)
Date: 10 Feb 05 - 02:18 PM

God, I remember the place.. I saw Paul Simon down there and a young Bert Jansch.. and a fellow I swapped a song with he wanted "Little Tim McGuire." And He gave me a Song called "Just give me a 12 string stella like Leadbelly used to play." This guy told me he was understudy for Sammy Davies Jr. who was doing a Musical at the London Palladium... something to do about Boxing if I recall.. I know where the first two are.. but I always wondered about the guy who gave me the song.As usual I lost the damm song but never forgot the title!!   As Aye, Phil

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: Fidjit
Date: 10 Feb 05 - 03:48 PM

Is the troubadour still going. Who said that? I know Red's gone poor soul. But is Martin Winsor still around? Played there a lot in the 60's Johnny Silvo broke my guitar strings. Well he would. After 30 years I caught up with him in Norway where he now lives. Oh happy days.

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: jimmyt
Date: 10 Feb 05 - 09:35 PM

I have to say this is one of the best threads I have ever read here on Mudcat. I guess I am either a hopeless romantic or an ardent student of history in musical forms, but this has been a blast to read about the experiences you have had in London in the 60s folk scene. I will be interested to see if we could get similar threads about some American venues in the same time period. I probably should do a search before saying any more, but again, thanks for the memories, Brits! Great stories

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: The Shambles
Date: 11 Feb 05 - 12:36 PM

I seem to remember that a young Nick Drake played floorspots at just about every all-nighter I attended. But I may be wrong - as it was a long time ago.

I seem to remember that we were all pretty serious about the music then - or was it just that were not drunk?

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 11 Feb 05 - 01:21 PM

Nope don't remember no Nick Drake, isn't he too young?
Giok

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 11 Feb 05 - 02:11 PM

Just out of interest, did anyone go to the Phoenix folk club at the back of Oxford St. I used to go every week. Bruce .....?ran the club in his other life he was a debt collector. That was a nice little place. There was guy there called Brian Flax, anyone know him?

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: The Shambles
Date: 11 Feb 05 - 09:05 PM

Perhaps it was only me that wasn't drunk?

I also remember a night when the members of Dr Strangely Strange managing somehow to squeeze their harmonium down the stairs and over the heads of the audience.

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 11 Feb 05 - 09:40 PM

And Mike Cooper.....slide guitarist Extraordinire. I remember one night Mike Chapman said < I'm going to do a song called See the Fish, now Mike Cooper will be in later after his gig, and he can play it properly, but it will give you an idea if I have a go at it now.....

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: Tobyjug
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 05:35 AM

Do I ever.
Imperative stop on the Saturday nights of late sixties.

"Shaggis" was David Johnson when he accompanied Noel Murphy, before he went on to play in the backing band for a small piano-playing singer called Reg Dwight, otherwise known now as Sir Elton John.

Great come-all-ye sessions with the folk estabishmnet, or is that a contradiction?

The list of artists go on and on.

Incidentally, I also appeared as a resident at the Enterprise and even did a Swiss tour with Don Bonito just after Easter 1977.

Lots of nostalgia in this thread.

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: The Shambles
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 06:02 AM

Lots of nostalgia in this thread.

Indeed but has anyone visited the new club yet?

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: The Shambles
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 06:06 AM

http://www.lescousins.co.uk/

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 06:26 AM

I went to the Phoenix on a visit to London in 1968 (moved down late 1969) and saw a very good (but very drunk) Bert Jansch. Played brilliantly, sang & spoke unintelligibly and kept falling off his stool!

RtS

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 08:37 AM

Ah the Enterprise Chalk Farm, Terry Gould et al, remember it well, saw Maddy Prior do a clog dance there, and had an argument with Jimmy McGregor. Anybody remember Terry Masterson, Piers ???, and of Colin Wilkie and Shirley Hart who are still going strong.
Web site
Giok

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: Tobyjug
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 10:41 AM

Piers Hayman?
And don't forget Tom Paley practicing his newly acquired fiddle, instead of his very accomplished banjo and guitar playing.

Tom was also a good photographer who occasionaly used to take photos at Les Cousins and C.Sharp House as well, just to stay on thread.

Wasn't it Dennis Norden who used to say
"Nostalgia isn't what it used to be"?

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 01:03 PM

Piers hayman; that's the man.
I remember Spider John Koerner turning up and blowing my mind with his 9 [?] string guitar, and Alexis Korner with a scarf round his head, Diz Dizley arrived driving a Rolls Royce hearse. Long John Baldry tried to pick me up once, [I was younger and prettier then]! The late lamented Redd sullivan threatening to brain somebody, using the metal milk churn lid that did duty as an ash tray on the stage, 'cos he wouldn't stop talking. Phil and his dad on the door. Oh happy days.
Giok

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 07:11 PM

Please send me emails with further reminisces, esp if anyone has any photos:
Bw
[e-mail]

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 16 Mar 05 - 07:01 AM

okay here's one:-

Anyone know what happened to Xavier Coudril?
He played a nylon strung guitar rather well, I remember a rather nice version of teddy bears picnic?

I saw him credited as something to do with the music on a kids tv programme in the 70's but I never saw him

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: Jim McLean
Date: 16 Mar 05 - 12:38 PM

Someone asked about Martin Windsor but I'm afraid he's dead too.

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 16 Mar 05 - 12:57 PM

Yes I knew about Martin, do you know if Jeannie his wife is still with us?
Giok

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 17 Mar 05 - 04:03 AM

I see Mike Cooper gets a mention in one of the previous postings. My "Les Cousins" memory of Mike is rather weird. One night ( late 60s?) Mike was doing his spot when an harmonica player asked if he could join Mike. I assumed that Mike knew the guy, and they proceded to tune up. About 30 seconds into the first number, the harmonica player stopped and said that they weren't properly in tune, and so, once again they went through the tuning up process. They then launched into a song whereupon the harmonica player stopped again complaining that they were not in tune. At this point, Mike lost his cool, raked his tumb-pick across the strings of his guitar and said, "I'm in tune, man!". And that was the end of the duet. I was surprised at Mike's reaction , as, of course, it's the guitarist's responsibilty to tune to the harmonica. I've always wondered what Mike's version of that incident would have been

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 17 Mar 05 - 07:45 AM

twas a long time ago, and the tiny fees reputedly paid by Cousins for a six hour session surely absloved all those performers of every obligation except survival.....

all the best

Big Al Whittle

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: GUEST,John Rogers
Date: 04 Jul 05 - 02:54 PM

Name: John Rogers
City LONDON
Sent: 18.46 - 27/11

Add 2nd/3rd paras. to earlier message sent prematurely in error: some is obviously written to a friend. I am obliged to John Etherington's e-mail for the correct title to Nick Drake's 'Black-Eyed Dog'.

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Sent: 16.31 - 27/11


It is a pity that you weren't able to stay for the Cousins gig, but it did go on a bit and Chapman didn't go on until fairly late. As you will know the evening was a Nick Drake tribute, so the large audience was very different from that earlier. Variously louche and sophisticated young people (many clearly-commited Drake fans) with some older men were engaging reverently but intermittently with the varied musical offerings, then turning to talk, exuberant drinking etc. so it was quite noisy.
It had seemed a pleasantly-amateurish evening from the late time we had arrived, with a range of people contributing musically. Chapman opened again with the Nick Drake song 'Which Way' then 5 or 6 of his own, duplicating much of the earlier set. The opening intro hushed and seduced most of the long, narrow room into attentive silence, and we were off on what became a musical tour de force. Chapman opened with a long, complex guitar intro. into Nick Drake's 'Which Will' that I thought was spellbinding. This was followed with his own 'Shuffleboat River Farewell' and a range of songs that included 'Little Molly's Dream', 'Rabbit Hills' (which, as Michael explained, was not really about rabbits or hills but a seaside venue!?) before finishing the set with a powerful 'Something To Hang On To'.
The second set was equally impressive, with powerful songs like 'Vanity and Pride' and 'That Time Of Night' contrasted with what was described as a musical homage to Les Dawson. The performance was rounded off with an elegaic 'The Mallard'. Chapman may not have the voice that he used to, but he sings with feeling and experience. His guitar playing is still hypnotic: he can conjure from his instrument a depth and resonance of sound that few can match, while overlaying this with virtuoso dexterity. He can, at times, make it feel as though time itself is flowing to the pulse of his guitar-playing. Not all this songs worked as well I thought gloomy angst-filled songs were more attentively received than the couple of chirpy instrumental-type, but Fully Qualified Survivor ended a great set to enthusiastic applause. I thought he would have benefited from some stage-lighting, but the sound was good.
Later Mark Pavey the young organiser; performed a nice final set, including a powerful 'Black Dog' to end at about 2.30am. I left to walk home after saying goodbye to Michael and John.
It was remarkable being back at Cousins. The two floors have been turned into a Bar, with the music now played on the ground floor. Mike and I had waited downstairs having a drink and trying to work out the plan of the old basement club.
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Name: Christian
City Kallinge/Sweden
Sent: 13.58 - 27/11

Hi! This is the chords for Anniversary, the way I play it. It sounds right to me. I thought this might interrest you... Tune the guitar DADGAD and play these chords. Intro: 300030 / 000200 Verse: 000430 / 000200 Refrain: 500050 / 000200 Hope this helps, not an exact tab but you get the picture. Have fun/Christian!
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Name: John Etherington
City London
Sent: 21.29 - 26/11

Well, last night was certainly a memorable one! Since the other Chapman fans that I know were not around, I went to the gig in Camberwell on my own. The venue was a very bleak room at the back of a pub, and there were about seven people there apart from myself, plus
the guy running the gig and a couple of musicians! Despite this, Michael played a great set and completely changed the atmosphere there. The set included a long and stunning version of Nick Drake's Which Will, Anniversary, Shufflebaot River Farewell,
Only Pretend, Vanity and Pride (first time I've heard it live), Memphis in Winter, Rabbit Hills, Sometimes,
That Time of Night, Ponchatoulah and The Mallard).
Mike's chat between the songs was as lively as ever, and he talked about the setting for Rabbit Hills (an unwelcome place where he sometimes went on holiday as a child). The great surprise of the evening was when Michael mentioned that he was playing at Les Cousins in Greek Street later on (the legendary club was re-opening there, with a Nick Drake night to commemorate his death thirty years ago to the day). On the spur of the moment, I decided to go along. Another guy named John who was also going, and we shared a cab. The club has been modernised and has a generally young audience, and young musicians playing. Virtually every Nick Drake song was played, and the main man, Mark played a striking Black-Eyed Dog among others. It was great chatting with Michael, and the other people there (including the friendly barmaid), and Michael's set was very well received. He played a similar but shorter set to the earlier one - the sole Nick Drake song being Which Will, once again. The club didn't wind up till gone 3am, and afterwards a group of us, including Michael, went to a coffee house in Soho until 4am. So, after numerous glasses of Stella and bottles of Red Stripe (plus three hours sleep) my theme song for today is (happily)wrecked again! Amazingly, I remembered upon waking, that a couple of weeks ago, I dreamt that I went to two Michael gigs in succession in London...in fact my dream was an uncannily accurate representation of what happened - apart from the fact that in the dream the concerts were in an outdoor setting. I had absolutely no previous knowledge that the Nick Drake event was happening, or that Michael would be playing there. Greetings to everyone that I met at the gigs, by the way. I look forward to seeing you all again.

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 05 Jul 05 - 04:41 AM

sounds like it might be fun, he heard himself saying dubiously. we've all passed a lot of water since then.

so is this a regular venue where you can arrange a spot/gig?

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 05 Jul 05 - 05:06 AM

The old Cousins venue probably wouldn't be permitted as a public venue these days, as far as I know the only way in and out was by those stairs, the fire brigade would object to any licence application.
Ah the nanny state, thank god it wasn't around in those days!!
Giok

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: GUEST,Sophisticated Beggar
Date: 02 Oct 05 - 09:21 AM

Often wondered what became of the faces.

They talk about Meg, but what about the other half, with the squeezebox?

Bumped into Andy Matthews, years later, somewhere not far from Oxford Street.

"Still around then?"

"Where do you think I'd go" says he, "... to the Moon?"

Looked just the same as ever, no worse the wear for the all-nighters.

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: GUEST,Sophisticated Beggar
Date: 14 Oct 05 - 03:55 PM

Stevie Bromfield? Duffy Power? Sam Mitchell? Al Stewart? Stephen Delft? Andy Fernbach? Al Jones? Jo Ann Kelly? Wizz Jones? John James? Gasworks? Incredible String Band? Jo-Ann Kelly? Jackson Frank?

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 14 Oct 05 - 04:14 PM

Al Stewart is having his 60th birthday gig @ the Barbican on 25 October.
Stephen Delft lives in New Zealand and I hear (from someone who visited him recently) that Judith Piepe - another 'face' - died there a year or so ago.
Al Jones is still in the swimming pool.
Jo-Ann Kelly died sadly some years ago.
Wizz Jones same as ever, still gigging a lot.
ISB Clive's back in, Robin's out.
Jackson Frank also died sadly some years ago.

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: The Shambles
Date: 14 Jul 06 - 05:57 AM

I consider that "my work here is done" in the classic B-movie phrase.

Please now close his thread?

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 14 Jul 06 - 06:28 AM

Why close it? Someone else might come along in another year who remembers other things, other people . . .

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: Scrump
Date: 14 Jul 06 - 07:21 AM

In the light of the recent postings, I'm not sure whether I should prolong the life of this thread, but I will for a short while anyway. I well remember several London venues from the late 1960s/early '70s, including those mentioned so far, but there are a few others I can remember well: the Country Club at Haverstock Hill (compered by Karl Dallas, then writing in Melody Maker IIRC) which had a folk club for a while - I even did a floor spot there in 1969 (guests were the Johnstons and Jug Trust - later to become Bronx Cheer). JT's Brian Cookman (now sadly no longer with us) kindly lent me a harmonica with harness as I didn't have mine with me.

Another not mentioned so far is the Three Horse Shoes in Heath St, Hampstead. Many memorable evenings spent there, with acts including Famous Jug Band, Murf & Shaggis (and Murf on his own after Shaggis moved on), Alex Campbell (who on one occasion semmed to have had a fair amount to drink and only got round to singing a couple of songs amid his hilarious anecdotes), Pete Atkin (first seen there by me doing a floor spot) and many others.

I was also a regular attendee at the Holy Ground, Bayswater. Again saw many fine artists there. For some reason I can remember a resident singer there who used to write topical songs every week. The only one I can recall in any detail was a song about candles, written during the power cuts of 1971 (? not sure of the year). Does anyone else remember him or know who he was?

I could go on but better get on with other stuff...

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 14 Jul 06 - 07:48 AM

Roger I can put up with your moaning at the slightest sign of censorship, real or imagined, justified or unjustified.
Just why does the anti censorship guru of Mudcat want to close a perfectly legitimate and to some very interesting thread.
Could it be because you have nothing to contribute to it?
Giok

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: The Shambles
Date: 14 Jul 06 - 10:00 AM

Why close it? Someone else might come along in another year who remembers other things, other people . . .

Why indeed? How about because I am the thread's orginator and my wishes must be now respected and everyone else's must be ignored......?

Subject: RE: The fRoots Messageboard...Do you post?
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Jul 06 - 11:02 AM

shambles, the originator requested that the thread is closed a few posts ago. Please respect her wishes.

The fRoots message board – do you post?   and Mudcat's stated goals threads have now been closed for this reason - so why not this one?

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: Scrump
Date: 14 Jul 06 - 10:04 AM

Ooerr, perhaps I should have started a different thread then?

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 14 Jul 06 - 10:24 AM

I see it's your 'dog in the manger' act again, sorry I didn't notice you had a new grudge to air.
G

Subject: RE: Remember Les Cousin's, in London's Soho?
From: The Sandman
Date: 14 Jul 06 - 10:43 AM

I can remember going to les cousins   about 1964 1965, and seeing Stefan Grossman amongst others      , Iwas only 13 0r14, it was a great place.Didnt the owner play Barrelhouse piano .