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Tech: VWML Website is unavailable - intermittent

Nick Dow 08 Nov 25 - 03:55 AM
GUEST,Nick Dow 08 Nov 25 - 04:10 AM
Robert B. Waltz 08 Nov 25 - 04:49 AM
Nick Dow 08 Nov 25 - 05:04 AM
GUEST,Keith Price 08 Nov 25 - 05:10 AM
GUEST,Nick Dow 08 Nov 25 - 05:52 AM
GUEST,Nick Dow 08 Nov 25 - 05:54 AM
Reinhard 08 Nov 25 - 06:16 AM
Reinhard 08 Nov 25 - 08:54 AM
Reinhard 08 Nov 25 - 09:27 AM
Nick Dow 08 Nov 25 - 09:48 AM
Robert B. Waltz 08 Nov 25 - 10:34 AM
Robert B. Waltz 08 Nov 25 - 11:13 AM
Joe Offer 08 Nov 25 - 02:20 PM
Robert B. Waltz 08 Nov 25 - 02:32 PM
Reinhard 09 Nov 25 - 05:17 AM
Robert B. Waltz 09 Nov 25 - 05:43 AM
GUEST,Nick Dow 09 Nov 25 - 05:45 PM
GUEST,Nick Dow 09 Nov 25 - 05:49 PM
Nick Dow 09 Nov 25 - 06:37 PM
GUEST,.gargoyle 09 Nov 25 - 07:07 PM
Stilly River Sage 09 Nov 25 - 11:55 PM
Reinhard 10 Nov 25 - 12:40 AM
GUEST,Nick Dow 10 Nov 25 - 09:23 AM
Mick Pearce (MCP) 10 Nov 25 - 12:57 PM
GUEST,Nick Dow 10 Nov 25 - 02:01 PM
GUEST,Keith Price 10 Nov 25 - 04:19 PM
Robert B. Waltz 10 Nov 25 - 04:44 PM
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Subject: Tech: VWML Website is unavailable
From: Nick Dow
Date: 08 Nov 25 - 03:55 AM

Anybody else having trouble logging on?

https://www.vwml.org/


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Subject: RE: Tech: VWML Website is unavailable
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 08 Nov 25 - 04:10 AM

This is weird! Here I am on another laptop, and I had a minimised page already open. I seems to work OK. I tried logging on from Google and was denied access on both laptops. I got a 'Cannot write to page' error notice. I thought it might be my antivirus, but not on two separate machines. It's not making a lot of sense. Any Tech wizards out there?


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Subject: RE: Tech: VWML Website is unavailable
From: Robert B. Waltz
Date: 08 Nov 25 - 04:49 AM

When I go to the Roud Index (hosted by the same group, I get a "forbidden" error, with two different browsers. And when I go directly to efdss.org, I get a "0 - cannot write to log file" error. So something is wrong. But I've no clue what.

Probably the reason it worked on the page you already had open was that you had cached enough parts of it that you didn't need to access as many resources.


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Subject: RE: Tech: VWML Website is unavailable
From: Nick Dow
Date: 08 Nov 25 - 05:04 AM

Thanks, Robert. I'll ring them on Monday if it's not resolved


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Subject: RE: Tech: VWML Website is unavailable
From: GUEST,Keith Price
Date: 08 Nov 25 - 05:10 AM

Are you still having problems Nick ?
I know absolutely nothing of these things, but I just had a look
and I can access all catalogues and indexes.


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Subject: RE: Tech: VWML Website is unavailable
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 08 Nov 25 - 05:52 AM

Thanks Keith. I have found I can get in via 'Mainly Norfolk' Evidently the permission has not been denied to their existing links, but the website is all over the place. I am wondering if the problem is with the old website in as much as it was taken down yesterday, and there was a redirection to the new, and now this has gone access has been reduced somehow. No I know absolutely nothing as well.


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Subject: RE: Tech: VWML Website is unavailable
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 08 Nov 25 - 05:54 AM

ERROR MESSAGE

0 - Cannot write to log file.
You may not be able to visit this page because of:

an out-of-date bookmark/favourite
a search engine that has an out-of-date listing for this site
a mistyped address
you have no access to this page
The requested resource was not found.
An error has occurred while processing your request.
Please try one of the following pages:

Home Page
If difficulties persist, please contact the website administrator and report the error below.

Cannot write to log file.


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Subject: RE: Tech: VWML Website is unavailable
From: Reinhard
Date: 08 Nov 25 - 06:16 AM

The error message "Cannot write to log file" is shown on the defect main EFDSS page; it's not a problem of your browser.

Luckily https://archives.vwml.org/, which houses the Roud index, still works but it looks funny as it loads the page header and background from another EFDSS site that is broken too.


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Subject: RE: Tech: VWML Website is unavailable
From: Reinhard
Date: 08 Nov 25 - 08:54 AM

The VWML site seems to work properly again.


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Subject: RE: Tech: VWML Website is unavailable
From: Reinhard
Date: 08 Nov 25 - 09:27 AM

Now I can't reach the balladindex.org website. There seems to be a problem with the site certificate.

It's one of these days ... ;-)


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Subject: RE: Tech: VWML Website is unavailable
From: Nick Dow
Date: 08 Nov 25 - 09:48 AM

Isn't it just!


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Subject: RE: Tech: VWML Website is unavailable
From: Robert B. Waltz
Date: 08 Nov 25 - 10:34 AM

Reinhard wrote: Now I can't reach the balladindex.org website. There seems to be a problem with the site certificate.

And I can't reach it, either. I've no idea what is wrong; those messages (if there are any) go to David Engle. I can only promise to contact him.

But if people have any specific questions, I will try to check back here regularly and give you what information you need.

Sorry about this. I wish I could tell you more.


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Subject: RE: Tech: VWML Website is unavailable
From: Robert B. Waltz
Date: 08 Nov 25 - 11:13 AM

balladindex.org seems to be back. Still no word on why it went down, so it might happen again. But I hope not.


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Subject: RE: Tech: VWML Website is unavailable - now fixed
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 Nov 25 - 02:20 PM

Hey, I like the tribute to Ben Schwartz at top of the Ballad Index page.

http://balladindex.org/


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Subject: RE: Tech: VWML Website is unavailable - now fixed
From: Robert B. Waltz
Date: 08 Nov 25 - 02:32 PM

Joe Offer wrote: "Hey, I like the tribute to Ben Schwartz at top of the Ballad Index page."

He thoroughly deserves it. It's a pretty simple tribute because I was trying to keep it to bare HTML -- no images or such.

For those who wonder: Ben is alive, and is making progress. But he's 92, and needs a great deal of care. I don't know how fully he will recover.


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Subject: RE: Tech: VWML Website is unavailable - now fixed
From: Reinhard
Date: 09 Nov 25 - 05:17 AM

Now I'm getting 'Error 1106 Access denied - The owner of this website (efdss.org) has banned your IP address' when trying to go to the EFDSS site from home. But access works with a VPN connection through my former university...


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Subject: RE: Tech: VWML Website is unavailable - now fixed
From: Robert B. Waltz
Date: 09 Nov 25 - 05:43 AM

Reinhard wrote: Now I'm getting 'Error 1106 Access denied - The owner of this website (efdss.org) has banned your IP address'

If you'll notice, that's a Cloudflare message. Which hints that they're under a cyber attack. Maybe it will clear up when things quiet down. But that's only a guess.


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Subject: RE: Tech: VWML Website is unavailable - intermittent
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 09 Nov 25 - 05:45 PM

It's all working for me, but I've left a link open. Might be from my cache as Robert explained.


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Subject: RE: Tech: VWML Website is unavailable - intermittent
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 09 Nov 25 - 05:49 PM

So I closed them and got the same message. I'll ring them Monday.


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Subject: RE: Tech: VWML Website is unavailable - intermittent
From: Nick Dow
Date: 09 Nov 25 - 06:37 PM

I'm in on this computer, so it's important to maintain your cache and links until the problem is fixed. Don't switch off your laptop.


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Subject: RE: Tech: VWML Website is unavailable - intermittent
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 09 Nov 25 - 07:07 PM

SUN-SPOTS



Largest solar storms in two decades.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

. Learn the fundamentals - Internet Outage Map, Ping, trace route, proxies ... read PC mag, 2600, Wired, etc ... Al Gore gave you the "Internet Super Hiway" but you should learn to drive a "four on the floor" stick before giving control to Musk's auto-pilot.


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Subject: RE: Tech: VWML Website is unavailable - intermittent
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Nov 25 - 11:55 PM

Good timing, Garg, I was just reading about it, from EarthSky: Sun news: X flare rocks the sun! Sun-stuff coming!


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Subject: RE: Tech: VWML Website is unavailable - intermittent
From: Reinhard
Date: 10 Nov 25 - 12:40 AM

X flare ??? I always thought the spots were a present from the sun to us, not that Elon Musk sent something to the sun to create the spots...


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Subject: RE: Tech: VWML Website is unavailable - intermittent
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 10 Nov 25 - 09:23 AM

Seems to be back on again. Let's hope this is an end to it.


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Subject: RE: Tech: VWML Website is unavailable - intermittent
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 10 Nov 25 - 12:57 PM

I'm getting 1006 Access Denied. I can access the Roud Index without problems, but if I try to access digital content ut fails.


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Subject: RE: Tech: VWML Website is unavailable - intermittent
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 10 Nov 25 - 02:01 PM

Just a thought Mick try restarting your computer.


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Subject: RE: Tech: VWML Website is unavailable - intermittent
From: GUEST,Keith Price
Date: 10 Nov 25 - 04:19 PM

It seems my IP has been banned.

https://catalogue.efdss.org/


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Subject: RE: Tech: VWML Website is unavailable - intermittent
From: Robert B. Waltz
Date: 10 Nov 25 - 04:44 PM

Keith Price wrote: It seems my IP has been banned.

Not necessarily. You didn't give the text of the error, but there were errors of that sort coming up before. That's likely Cloudflare, not the efdss site. If the site is in fact under attack (we don't know, but the symptoms fit), then you may be fine once Cloudflare is able to back off.


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Subject: RE: Tech: VWML Website is unavailable - intermittent
From: GUEST,Keith Price
Date: 10 Nov 25 - 05:46 PM

Cheers Robert. As I said to Nick,I really haven't a clue with these things.
Does this help.
The owner of this website (catalogue.efdss.org) has banned your IP address (5.81.154.207).

Please see https://developers.cloudflare.com/support/troubleshooting/http-status-codes/cloudflare-1xxx-errors/error-1006/ for more details.

It's still the same now but only on Library Catalogue.


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Subject: RE: Tech: VWML Website is unavailable - intermittent
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 10 Nov 25 - 05:51 PM

Google tells me:
Cloudflare is used to make websites and applications faster and more secure by providing a variety of network and security services, including a global content delivery network (CDN), DNS, and DDoS protection. It acts as a reverse proxy, sitting between users and the origin server to cache content, filter malicious traffic, and distribute requests across its network of servers to improve performance and resilience.

So now I know. I just hope the attack fails


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Subject: RE: Tech: VWML Website is unavailable - intermittent
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 10 Nov 25 - 06:05 PM

Nick thanks for the suggestion. I tried restarting my tablet and that didn't work. But I rebooted my router to get a new IP address (Error 1006 is IP address blocked) and that does seem to have worked (on my desktop at least; haven't tried the others, but I imagine they will work too). I was able to access the Janet Blunt papers (for my Sing We Merrily thread), which I was unable to do earlier.

Thanks again.


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Subject: RE: Tech: VWML Website is unavailable - intermittent
From: Robert B. Waltz
Date: 10 Nov 25 - 07:01 PM

Keith --

Yes, that's the Cloudflare error I was referring to.

Keith and Nick --

I don't KNOW that efdss is under attack. It's just that Cloudflare errors usually arise when a site is under attack, and the symptoms we're seeing -- parts of the site being intermittently inaccessible -- are also typical in that case. So it's the simplest explanation for what we're seeing.

If anybody is trying a Roud query and failing, try again in a little while. If that too fails -- well, the software for the Traditional Ballad Index software also includes the Roud Index, and I can actually do fancier searches than you can do at the online site. So I can look things up, within reason.


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