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BS: Quoting Little Hawk

GUEST,Richard H 03 Feb 03 - 12:16 AM
CarolC 03 Feb 03 - 12:16 AM
Amos 03 Feb 03 - 12:25 AM
Little Hawk 03 Feb 03 - 12:56 AM
Wolfgang 03 Feb 03 - 09:41 AM
McGrath of Harlow 03 Feb 03 - 10:18 AM
Burke 03 Feb 03 - 10:56 AM
DougR 03 Feb 03 - 12:16 PM
Bobert 03 Feb 03 - 12:37 PM
gnu 03 Feb 03 - 03:04 PM
Rustic Rebel 03 Feb 03 - 03:12 PM
Bobert 03 Feb 03 - 03:15 PM
Little Hawk 04 Feb 03 - 03:16 PM
GUEST,Richard H 04 Feb 03 - 11:37 PM
GUEST,Q 05 Feb 03 - 01:29 AM
Stilly River Sage 05 Feb 03 - 02:08 AM
Little Hawk 05 Feb 03 - 09:40 AM
GUEST,Richard H 05 Feb 03 - 11:34 AM
My guru always said 05 Feb 03 - 11:36 AM
*daylia* 05 Feb 03 - 12:10 PM
Stilly River Sage 05 Feb 03 - 01:05 PM
Jack the Sailor 05 Feb 03 - 03:02 PM
Jack the Sailor 05 Feb 03 - 11:34 PM
Little Hawk 05 Feb 03 - 11:59 PM
Cluin 06 Feb 03 - 02:29 AM
My guru always said 06 Feb 03 - 02:58 AM
catspaw49 06 Feb 03 - 07:54 AM
*daylia* 06 Feb 03 - 09:56 AM
*daylia* 06 Feb 03 - 10:01 AM
Dave Bryant 06 Feb 03 - 11:09 AM
My guru always said 06 Feb 03 - 11:20 AM
Little Hawk 06 Feb 03 - 04:05 PM
GUEST,Little Hawk 07 Feb 03 - 07:25 AM

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Subject: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: GUEST,Richard H
Date: 03 Feb 03 - 12:16 AM

If someone wanted to quote a comment by Little Hawk (or anyone else on this site) in a public forum, what would be the proper etiquette? Post a thread asking for permission? Assume it's okay once LH or whoever is credited? Just don't do it?


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Subject: RE: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: CarolC
Date: 03 Feb 03 - 12:16 AM

You could become a member and then you could send him a personal message to ask him.


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Subject: RE: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: Amos
Date: 03 Feb 03 - 12:25 AM

Just ask him, eh? He'd be all flattered and his head would swell!!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Feb 03 - 12:56 AM

God...and I already take an "X-large" hat size. :-) This could be dangerous!

GUEST, Richard - Well, I suppose you can quote me if you wish to. I used to write a column for the local newspaper here (in Orillia, Ontario), where I ruffled some feathers, but generally got a lot of enthusiastic reactions from supporters. I wrote a couple of vicious attacks on casinos (we recently acquired one) that one casino employee was offended by, but that was about it for negative responses. Sure, go ahead. Just say it's from Little Hawk. Crazy Horse had a brother with that name, and I like it.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: Wolfgang
Date: 03 Feb 03 - 09:41 AM

You can quote anyone here anywhere unless you forget to credit.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 03 Feb 03 - 10:18 AM

If you say anything here you've said it in public (unlike PMs), and it stays in the archives to be trawled up anytime in the future. Noone has any right to stop anyone quoting it wherever they choose.

That's why it's as well to think twice before posting sometimes. Always, really.


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Subject: RE: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: Burke
Date: 03 Feb 03 - 10:56 AM

It's best if you provide a link to the message you're referring to. It would also be a courtesy to send LH a copy of the message you're submitting to the other forum & point him to the forum so he can check the context if he wants to.


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Subject: RE: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: DougR
Date: 03 Feb 03 - 12:16 PM

I agree with Amos (for a change >)) LH would't look good in a hat that would have been two sizes too large for him prior to the quote.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: Bobert
Date: 03 Feb 03 - 12:37 PM

Caution:

No that anyone would want to quote me, except Teribus, but should anyone feel to occasion to, please fix the bad typing and spelling...

Thanks.

the bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: gnu
Date: 03 Feb 03 - 03:04 PM

"...poor typing and spelling." Sorry, couldn't exist.


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Subject: RE: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 03 Feb 03 - 03:12 PM

I curious what it is you want to quote? Won't you tell us all?


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Subject: RE: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: Bobert
Date: 03 Feb 03 - 03:15 PM

I think it's the "rock" thing. No, not music.

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Feb 03 - 03:16 PM

I've done some really inspiring stuff about William Shatner. My bet is that's what he's after. :-)

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: GUEST,Richard H
Date: 04 Feb 03 - 11:37 PM

That last post sent me Google-searching for William Shatner (of whom I've never heard). But, just before his page came up, warning boxes started to pop up like crazy informing me this was my LAST CHANCE to get out of there and wipe my record clean otherwise it would be permanently held in evidence against me for ever and ever and ever...

Jeez, you guys wouldn't be leading an innocent youth into the paths of unrighteousness, would you?

The quote in question is nothing earth-shaking - it's just LH said something so starkly I didn't want to ruin it with a paraphrase.

If I do use it I'll try to alert him where it's at.

P.S. I still don't know who Shatner is...


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Subject: RE: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 05 Feb 03 - 01:29 AM

Shatner conquered outer space for us on the good ship Lollypop, er, Enterprise (or something).
(You haven't missed anything)


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Subject: RE: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 05 Feb 03 - 02:08 AM

Richard H: How are you planning to use these quotes? If they're in a published work, there are formats to citing everything, including email and discussion lists. Someone sent me an essay to read recently, with several citations pointing to emails she had exchanged with the subject of her essay. I've modified them, and below you'll see a couple of forms you could follow. This first one looks like it's Modern Language Association (MLA) style.

    Hawk, Little. "Re: Mudcat and Guests, a burning question: What to do with them." E-mail to the author. URL: http://www.mudcat.org/(etc.) 21 Sept. 2000.


Chicago Manual of style might do it like this (they want the author and date first, the order of the rest is a guess on my part):

    Hawk, Little, 21 Sept. 2000. "Re: Mudcat and Guests, a burning question: What to do with them." E-mail to the author. URL: http://www.mudcat.org/(etc.).

Use Little Hawk's real name (aka Little Hawk).
SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Feb 03 - 09:40 AM

Richard, you poor lad! William Shatner is a great man. Let me give you a brief synopsis:

1. He's Canadian.

2. He went into acting in his teens, starting out in Shakespearian stage material, which may account for his rather dramatic style of emoting.

3. He became a household name in the orginal Star Trek TV series in the 60's, alongside Leonard Nimoy ("Spock", the Vulcan), De Forest Kelly ("Bones" McCoy), and others. This became definitely the most legendary science fiction show of all time, leading, as I'm sure you know, to movies, further TV installments (such as "Next Generation", "Deep Space Nine", and "Voyager") and so on... Shatner played Captain Kirk of the Starship Enterprise. Check out the videos at the local store. The episodes vary from thoughtful and imaginative to downright tacky and godawful, depending...

4. He is noted for an odd acting style, a phenomenal libido, and an apparently complete inability to sing. Despite the latter, he has produced memorable covers of songs such as "Mr Tambourine Man". Do a google search and prepare to experience auditory enlightenment.

5. I recently opened a prestigious educational institute to teach people the William Shatner Technique, and enable them to become more and more like Bill with each passing day. It is called the WSSBA (William Shatner School of BAAAAAAD Acting) and it's located in Orillia, Ontario, Canada. (Orillia! The town that'll chill ya, thrill ya, maybe even kill ya! If ya stay long enough...God knows, it's killing me being here...)

6. He recently published a book called "Get A Life", and it's one of the funniest showbiz books I've ever read. Seriously. Do yourself a favour and check it out.

That about sums it up. I envy you the thrill that only a newcomer to the Shatman can experience upon uncovering this cultural gem of the late 20th century.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: GUEST,Richard H
Date: 05 Feb 03 - 11:34 AM

First off, SRS, thanks for the (somewhat intimidating) tips on quoting. And not knowing LH's name, I can't use it. And since this may be just for a letter to my friend George W. telling him maybe them Canadians can't be trusted, I might be setting up poor LH for a trip to Guantanamo.

Ah LH, not having TV, nor had it much in my life, I missed out on Journey into Space or whatever. However, I'm embarrassed to say my wife of many years not only knows all about WS but seems not at all averse to his techniques. Au contraire... I will try to Get a Life as soon as possible.

BTW, my sister's son manages a theatre in Canada called the Centre on the Square or something like that. Maybe you could send him some bad actors.

Always amazes me to hear that a Canadian (like Shatner) has done something. Recently I was asked to come up with a quote by a Canadian author on the theme of love. Told the asker I'd be surprised to discover a Canadian had written anything worth quoting. They're supposed to be low-profile kind of people...


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Subject: RE: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: My guru always said
Date: 05 Feb 03 - 11:36 AM

I find it really hard to believe that there's anyone out there who doesn't know about Shatner. But thanks for the precis, Little Hawk :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: *daylia*
Date: 05 Feb 03 - 12:10 PM

Richard H., here's some Canadian quotes for your browsing pleasure:

"The Eskimo have 52 names for snow because it is important to them; there ought to be as many for love."   
                - Margaret Atwood, Can. writer

"How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?"
                - Jacques Plante, Can. hockey player

"All pro athletes are bilingual; they speak English and profanity."
                - Geordie Howe, another hockey player

"The value of experience is not in seeing much, but in seeing wisely."
                - Sir William Osler, Can. physician

"In any world menu, Canada must be considered the vichyssoise of nations - it's cold, half-French, and difficult to stir."
                - Stuart Keate, Ca. newspaperman

"Pity the poor creatures in warmer countries where the seasons never change. Where summer is eternal and they never know the pain of waiting and the joy at last when summer comes."
                - Ray Guy, Can. columnist

"It is wonderful to feel the grandness of Canada in the raw, not because she is Canada but because she is something sublime you were born into, some great rugged power that you are a part of."
                - Emily Carr, Can. painter and writer

"A Canadian is someone who knows how to make love in a canoe."
                - Pierre Berton, Can. writer and broadcaster

"Canadians are malevolently informed about the United States, while Americans are benevolently uninformed about Canada."
                - Merrill Denison, Can. writer

"Recipe for loon soup - DO NOT MAKE LOON SOUP."
             - from 'The Eskimo Cookbook'

"There has never been a war of Canadian origin, nor for a Canadian cause."
               - W.A. Deacon, Can. writer

"Love is indeed not a state that we are 'in' or 'out' of. It comes as a gift when we risk ourselves, our whole selves."
               - Penelope Washburn, Can. theologian

Cheers, daylia


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Subject: RE: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 05 Feb 03 - 01:05 PM

Richard H, the silly name of the sample thread wasn't aimed at you! You signed your name. (It's anonymous guests who usually are spoken of disparagingly, if they come here to troll.) If you want to send your friend directly to the exact quote via something like email, then take a look at the address that appears when you mouse over the names in the top of the thread you want to quote from. For example, I want to send someone a story Don Firth extracted from a memoir I hope he'll publish one of these days. On the top address line in Internet Explorer you'll see the usual:
http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=54575

and when you mouse over his name in the top index of posts, you'll see (in the bottom address line in Internet Explorer) that IN ADDITION you'll find the location in the thread, or #846879. Put it all together

http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=54575#846879 and you have a very precise URL to the exact link you want your friend to read. It doesn't drop you at the top of the thread, it takes you to the exact post.

I've made it into a link here. I should have taken the trouble to do this yesterday. It saves confusion.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 05 Feb 03 - 03:02 PM

I quoted *daylia*

http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/005019.html


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Subject: RE: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 05 Feb 03 - 11:34 PM

Where I quoted *daylia*

Daylia, Where did you get those quotes? Are there more?


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Subject: RE: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Feb 03 - 11:59 PM

Richard, Canadians have done and said so many extraordinary things that it would make your head swim! Considering the small population in this country, it's a downright amazing place for creativity at times. There was a point when the majority of the finest professional folksingers in the more modern folk genre were from Canada...such as Gordon Lightfoot (from my own town of Orillia), Joni Mitchell, Ian & Sylvia, Buffy Sainte-Marie, Gordon Lightfoot, Stan Rogers, Neil Young, Leonard Cohen, and Bruce Cockburn. The one we just missed getting by a stone's throw was Dylan...he grew up not too far south of the Canadian border in Minnesota. If he'd been Canadian, I predict it would have taken him 3 to 4 more weeks to make it big. :-)

We have also made a notable contribution to the ranks of top comedians which far outweighs our meager population base, as compared to the USA. You gotta do something to relieve the long winters, you see, so people dream up all kinds of neat stuff. They inevitably go south and make it big in the USA at some point.


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Subject: RE: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: Cluin
Date: 06 Feb 03 - 02:29 AM

This link may be of interest.


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Subject: RE: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: My guru always said
Date: 06 Feb 03 - 02:58 AM

That canoe thing, well I'd never have thought of that! Wow *g*


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Subject: RE: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Feb 03 - 07:54 AM

If you think that quotes are strong enough to hold him, I'm personally all for it. A straitjacket might be better but quotes may work..........Actually the most effective thing is when he gets himself all bound up. No, not constipated....although I'd say he does have periods of brain constipation which alternate with bouts cranial diarrhea. Believe me, these lobotomal trots can be fierce and have filled a shitload of bandwidth, so to speak. No, I am talking of those occasions when he has found himself tied up in a phlegm bag of self. Sad it doesn't happen more often............

Go on and try the quotes, but pray for another phlegm bag of self soon!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: *daylia*
Date: 06 Feb 03 - 09:56 AM

Cluin that's a great site! Thanks! :-)

Spaw - "another phlegm bag of self"?   "Lobotomal trots"? He he he - c'mon man you could be the next great Canadian humorist! Why waste that talent - PUBLISH!!!

LH - right on, on all counts! And don't forget our wonderful actors (Michael J. Fox, John Candy, Pamela Anderson *whew!*, Graham Greene, Chief Dan George, Jim Carey and your all-time favorite CAPTAIN KIRK! to name a few). And athletes, and scientists, and astronauts, and statesmen, and ...

Jack - the quotes are from a tiny little book called "Quotable Canada - a national treasury" by Canada's 'Master Gatherer', John Robert Columbo. Here's a few more of my favorites -

"To agree to disagree, to harness diversity, to respect dissent, this is the real essence of Canada."
                - Robert L. Perry (no occupation listed)

"The essence of being a Canadian actor is being mistaken for someone else."
                - Richard Monetto, Can. actor and director

"The field of our dreams is flooded and frozen and has a net at either end."
                - Joey Slinger, Can. columnist

"Living next to the United States is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered the beast, one is affected by every twitch and grunt."
                - Pierre Elliot Trudeau, former Can. Prime Minister

"The geography everywhere is unforgiving; to survive is an achievement ... Canadians at bus stops exchange looks of pure pleasure; they are fiesty; they are invincible; they can take it."
                - June Callwood, Can. writer

"I know nothing finer, either from the point of view of the sociologist, the traveller, or the artist, than a month's devotion even to the surface of Canada."
                - Walt Whitman, poet (American, but we can take it eh?)

"There's a lot to be said for simple lust, and not enough of it has been said by women."
                - Betty Jean Wylie, Can. dramatist and writer

"Canada could have enjoyed English government, French culture, and American know-how; instead, we ended up with English know-how, French government, and American culture."
                - John Robert Columbo, Can. anthologist

"We have the Mounties, they have the FBI. Can you imagine the FBI doing the Musical Ride?"
                - Dave Broadfoot, Can. comedian

"We live in an empty place filled with wonders."
                - Peter C. Newman, Can. writer

Au revoir! - daylia


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Subject: RE: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: *daylia*
Date: 06 Feb 03 - 10:01 AM

PS - "A Canadian is someone who knows how to make love on a toboggan."
            - *daylia*, just another frozen Canuck eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 06 Feb 03 - 11:09 AM

Making love in a canoe must be like Watney's beer - Fucking near water !


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Subject: RE: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: My guru always said
Date: 06 Feb 03 - 11:20 AM

Red Barrel is still sold in Spain isn't it? Isn't that near water too?


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Subject: RE: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Feb 03 - 04:05 PM

You really ought not to talk about William Shatner in that manner, Spaw. It's crass and patently untrue, and it will not get you a guest pass to the WSSBA nor ease your bowel problems a whit.


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Subject: RE: BS: Quoting Little Hawk
From: GUEST,Little Hawk
Date: 07 Feb 03 - 07:25 AM

If you want to see where you were quoted, give me a shout at lowdown@caribsurf.com.


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