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Extremely Difficult Trivia Question
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Subject: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Bev and Jerry Date: 17 Sep 01 - 11:45 PM What very well known traditional song does not mention its title in the lyrics until the last three words of the last verse?
Barbara (blessings) is disqualified from this competition because we told her the answer! Bev and Jerry |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: ddw Date: 17 Sep 01 - 11:52 PM Some version of "The Riddle Song"? |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Mrrzy Date: 18 Sep 01 - 12:17 AM I'm too tired and someone will post before I waken - Well, if I've thought of it before I read it, I'll count a small victory. Excellent question! |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Bev and Jerry Date: 18 Sep 01 - 12:19 AM It's not any version of The Riddle Song. But, we just noticed that in the DT this song is listed under a different title which is the last three words of the first verse. We think most folks know it by the title that's the last three words of the last verse. Bev and Jerry |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: SINSULL Date: 18 Sep 01 - 12:25 AM Rock Salt and Nails isn't traditional...HMMMM. |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Sorcha Date: 18 Sep 01 - 12:27 AM I have no clue, mostly because as a fiddler I don't worry about the words...... |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Metchosin Date: 18 Sep 01 - 12:39 AM Blowing in the Wind almost qualifies....hmmm......close but no cigar. |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Bev and Jerry Date: 18 Sep 01 - 02:15 AM Here's a clue. The title that appears in the last three words of the last verse (as opposed to the title in the DT) is the title used on the recordings and the book by the famous traditional singing group with whom this song is associated. Bev and Jerry |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Banjer Date: 18 Sep 01 - 02:16 AM How about Aragon Mill aka Weave and Spin? |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Jeri Date: 18 Sep 01 - 02:34 AM Aragon Mill isn't traditional, and the "Weave and Spin" part is in the choruses. I haven't got a clue, meself, and I shouldn't even be awake right now...not sure I am. |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Banjer Date: 18 Sep 01 - 02:40 AM OK, how about John Prine's 'Paradise', the last three words being 'progress of man'? |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Jeri Date: 18 Sep 01 - 02:50 AM So far we know: The song is traditional. It has a three word title. The title in the DT is different than the one on the group's recordings and in their book. It was recorded by a "famous traditional singing group" who also wrote a book with the song in it. (And I'm willing to bet money I know who the group is.)
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Jeri Date: 18 Sep 01 - 02:55 AM How's this? The song is Thousands or More, the title in the DT is Drive Sorrows Away, and it was recorded by the Copper Family and is in the Copper Family Song Book. |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: GUEST,Boab Date: 18 Sep 01 - 02:56 AM ---"Fareweel ye lads o' Huntly side An' BOGIE'S BONNIE BELLE" |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Banjer Date: 18 Sep 01 - 02:57 AM OK, Jeri, put your money where your keyboard is *BG*...Who do you think the group is? Admitedly I'm just grasping at straws, but this is such a relief from all the threads dealing with the past weeks events that i just couldn't resist. Thanks Bev and Jerry!! |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Banjer Date: 18 Sep 01 - 02:58 AM Whoops, we crossed each other!!! |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Jeri Date: 18 Sep 01 - 03:19 AM And it looks like Bev and Jerry have wandered off and I won't find out what my prize is until tomorrow! (I can't believe I'm still awake anyway!) |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Stewie Date: 18 Sep 01 - 04:42 AM The words 'thousands or more' occur 4 times in the last stanza of the Coppers' song before their occurrence as last 3 words of last line. Boab's suggestion of 'Bogie's Bonnie Belle' certainly satisfies the original teaser, but not the subsequent clue about an alternative title. --Stewie. |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: bin Laden Date: 18 Sep 01 - 04:54 AM No Stewie, They occur 4 times in the final chorus Jeri is right, I believe |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Calach Date: 18 Sep 01 - 05:01 AM "Bright Blue Rose" fits the bill, but it's not traditional......... Prize maybe tho???? |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Noreen Date: 18 Sep 01 - 08:12 AM Related (in)correct answer: Mr Zimmerman's Spanish Boots of Spanish Leather. |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Snuffy Date: 18 Sep 01 - 09:00 AM Dancing at Whitsun? Not traditional enough? |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Wolfgang Date: 18 Sep 01 - 09:42 AM Not easy. A three word title song from the DT that fits is The swinish multitude. For five words: Some versions of 'Off to sea no more' have these words only in the last verse. For two words: Johnny McEvoy sings 'Croppy boy' with these two words only once, namely as the last two. If you think this is solved or have given up on it and look for a new quest: A traditional song in the DT with a single word title and this word doesn't appear in the song at all in its many many verses (after the title, of course). Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Bill D Date: 18 Sep 01 - 11:18 AM shucks, I just remembered an 8 verse song where the title, though descriptive and clever, does not appear in the verses. I'll bet there are a few more. |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Bill D Date: 18 Sep 01 - 11:20 AM heck...you are busy, here it is..... *grin* |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Mrrzy Date: 18 Sep 01 - 12:02 PM Spanish boots, good one. I really can't think of anything but I have a "feel" that PP&M might be one of the groups... |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: mooman Date: 18 Sep 01 - 12:12 PM Would it be "The Irish Jubilee"? mooman |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Mrrzy Date: 18 Sep 01 - 01:33 PM Pop goes the weasel? too long for "last three words" - am still cogitating... |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Bev and Jerry Date: 18 Sep 01 - 03:21 PM Jeri:
Nice going! The song is Thousands or More and these words do not appear until the last three words of the last verse. This is followed by a refrain containing the words three more times. We thought the clue about the traditional singing group might give it away.
We've tried this question on several folkies and no one has ever gotten it. We have a magnificent group intelligence here on the 'cat.
About your prize. We're afraid you'll have to settle for a big boost in your self-esteem and a hearty congratulations from us. Bev and Jerry |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Noreen Date: 18 Sep 01 - 03:32 PM Next one: A lovely song in the DT with a 3-word title. The song is about a girl, whose name is contained in the title, but her name is not mentioned anywhere else in the song. |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Noreen Date: 18 Sep 01 - 03:57 PM Written by a Scot. |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Mary in Kentucky Date: 18 Sep 01 - 04:16 PM And don't forget Wolfgang's single word title. It's not his recent add, "Montana." |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Mary in Kentucky Date: 18 Sep 01 - 04:56 PM Noreen, it's a stretch....The Four Marys ? |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Jeri Date: 18 Sep 01 - 06:09 PM Noreen - Dark Eyed Molly by Archie Fisher? |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Noreen Date: 18 Sep 01 - 07:48 PM Jeri- you win again! Most wonderful song.! (I was waiting for Clinton to jump in on that one). Must be your turn to set one now, Jeri... (Any more clues, Wolfgang?) Noreen |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Jeri Date: 18 Sep 01 - 09:42 PM I'm better at answers than questions, and I can't think of one right now. (And I have really tried!) Wolfgang's is too difficult. I actually had a feeling I could figure out the other answers, but there's no element of familiarity about his question. |
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Subject: Lyr Add: AMERICA From: Mary in Kentucky Date: 18 Sep 01 - 10:33 PM Here's one answer to Wolfgang's single word title. However, I don't think it's "traditional" and there are not many, many verses, so I'm sure he has another in mind. It's in the DT, but I couldn't get to it tonight. So, here 'tis:
AMERICA |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Wolfgang Date: 19 Sep 01 - 04:59 AM Mary, good idead. I had another in mind but never mind, I would have been surprised if there only would have been one possible response. The one I had in mind is Child ballad #8: Erlington Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Wolfgang Date: 28 Sep 01 - 10:45 AM another solution to the original question: Roger O'Hehir Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Mrrzy Date: 28 Sep 01 - 10:49 AM Well, I feel better, I've never heard of Thousands or More. Am off to look it up... |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Mrrzy Date: 28 Sep 01 - 10:53 AM Not in the Trad, at least not under that name? Way too many songs have the phrase... what was this we were talking about, anyway? |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Noreen Date: 28 Sep 01 - 02:35 PM Mrrz, Jeri wrote earlier in this thread: The song is Thousands or More, the title in the DT is Drive Sorrows Away. Lovely song, particularly in a singaround with many voices harmonising in the chorus. Noreen |
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Subject: RE: Extremely Difficult Trivia Question From: Mrrzy Date: 28 Sep 01 - 03:41 PM Ah, I found that one but thought that the whole point was that the phrase was the title of the song, so I didn't think it was right. Didn't notice jeri's helpful post, so thanks, Noreen! |
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