The Watersons at The RAH

Subject: The Watersons at The RAH
From: Lizzie Cornish
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 06:04 PM

So....who's going then?

I thought I'd start a seperate thread, as The Watersons are being 'lost' in the 'Show of Hands at the Royal Albert Hall' thread at present, which seems a shame....


Lizzie :0)

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: Lizzie Cornish
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 09:19 AM

Royal Albert Hall Ticket Information

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: Jeri
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 10:46 AM

I thought they were more popular than they obviously are.

Send them over here - they've got fans in North America!

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 10:59 AM

They're in the US now:

Gig List

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 11:12 AM

More popular than they obviously are? Well, as a venue manager I can be pretty confident of a sellout if I book them. And there are a lot of venues around the country who would say the same. And there are not a lot of folk artists that I could say that about, to be honest.

The tickets for the RAH gig are not cheap - around £25 each. And you have to travel to London. And if you're making a weekend of it, as we are, it is a bit of a dear do. But I have no doubt there will be sufficient fans of all Watersons and Carthys to ensure it's a very successful event.

As I said earlier on another thread, the gig is over 2 months away. From the information available it looks like the tickets are selling really well. If I wanted to see this show and hadn't got my tickets yet, I'd get my finger out.

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: DMcG
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 01:54 PM

I didn't post to this thread earlier because just saying I was going didn't seem to give much scope for a conversation (especailly as I've already said it elsewhere.) But just to show willing, I'm in the stalls, section J, row 6.

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: GUEST,Devil's Advocate
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 02:19 PM

So Lizzie - since you asked the question.... are you going???

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: Barry Finn
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 02:50 PM

They are Jeri.

They'll be in Boston next Staurday evening. Justine & I will be heading down there after a bit of the shanty session. I expect that they'll draw a fair size crowd.

They aren't as well known in the Irish music circles though.
Years ago (maybe 25) I went to see DeDanan at an afternoon gig they had in Boston at the Black Rose (not really publicized) it was packed with Irish musicians. After the 1st set they introduced their friend & had him up on stage to join them, Lou Killen, then with Lou staying up they brought up the Watersons. The crowd had no idea of what was happening, it was quite a show, most were lost & dazed but enjoyed & left wondering what was all that (this was very pre Voice Squad). Me, I was almost pissing my pants, waiting, having seen them in the crowd thinking something's up but not knowing that DeDanan were such friends & fans of theirs. t was WOW!

Barry

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: Lizzie Cornish
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 02:56 PM

No, sadly we're not going. But I did see them last year at Sidmouth Festival and enjoyed them very much too. Hoping to see Eliza and her Ratcatchers this year if possible..

Hope you all have a lovely time though.

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: Bill D
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 03:00 PM

We just saw Martin & Watersons in Maryland Friday night....they were having fun and ON! Had over 200 folks and a good sound system and had a great concert. Gracious as always, they chatted with folks between sets and autographed stuff and ....made amazing music. (I think they worked especially hard trying to compensate for Norma not being there)

As Yogi Berra would say: "Don't miss 'em if you can!"

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: GUEST,The Devonian
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 03:17 PM

Hope Norma will be fit enough to go onstage at the Royal Albert Hall even though she's not currently touring with Waterson:Carthy.

Lizzie - why on earth do you start a thread asking if people are going to the Albert Hall show when you're not going yourself?

Are you now trying to undermine the credibility of that show just like you single-handedly undermined Sidmouth Festival's reputation?

Why don't you steer clear of computers and stick to your knitting?

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: Scrump
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 06:03 PM

Maybe I'll swap my SOH RAH tickets for Watersons ones then :-)

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: Folkiedave
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 06:21 PM

Got mine in the arena.

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 05 Mar 07 - 02:15 AM

Have you been to the RAH before, Dave? I was in 2 minds about the arena or the stalls...

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: Lizzie Cornish
Date: 05 Mar 07 - 03:39 AM

>>Lizzie - why on earth do you start a thread asking if people are going to the Albert Hall show when you're not going yourself?<<<<

Please read the first message of this thread. Thanks.

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: DMcG
Date: 05 Mar 07 - 08:39 AM

I have been to the RAH before. The trade-off between stalls and the arena is the usual one; in the arena your view can easily be blocked by the people in front; on the other hand most seats are much closer than the stalls.

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 05 Mar 07 - 08:51 AM

That's really useful. Thanks. Does anyone know if there's a photography policy in the venue?

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: Surreysinger
Date: 05 Mar 07 - 10:06 AM

Cameras not permitted Ruth - see
http://www.royalalberthall.com/flash/index.aspx?dest=info,etiquette

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: Surreysinger
Date: 05 Mar 07 - 10:11 AM

Meant to say that I can remember sitting in the arena seats for a performance of Mahler's Symphony of 1000 - the seats were somewhat narrow, and close to each other and for someone like me that was uncomfortable - did my back problems no good as well... and I got the obligatory giant in front of me so couldn't see much of the conductor, even thogh I was only about 9 rows back. I vastly prefer the stalls seats - comfortable, and if I recall with a swivel device, and raked. As has already been said you have to trade off the fact that they may not be as close to the stage,and will also be at an angle to it .... but personally I'd tend to go for the greater comfort every time .

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: Scrump
Date: 05 Mar 07 - 10:27 AM

It's a pity concert halls etc. don't distinguish between flash photography and non-flash.

I never use flash in such a venue, as I realise it's annoying for other members of the audience, and off-putting for the performers. But I don't see any harm in taking pics without flash (as long as you don't obstruct anyone else's view of the stage). The results are often better too, subject to being able to keep the camera steady. It depends where I'm seated - if I am at the front of a balcony I can rest the camera on the wall/rail. If not, then the results can be blurred, but I've taken some pretty good pictures in the past on a small pocket sized digital camera.

It seems the thoughtless 'flashers' (ooerr missus!) have ruined it for all photographers :-(

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: GUEST,Surreysinger
Date: 05 Mar 07 - 05:59 PM

Actually Scrump - digital cameras can be extremely annoying if you're sitting behind the lovely person with the glowing little screen. Extremely distracting and annoying. I used to use mine when i first bought it, but then realised the effect it was having, and have now stopped doing so.

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: DMcG
Date: 06 Mar 07 - 04:22 AM

Thoughtless flashers... Photographically thoughtless, as well. The flash on a digital camera is never going to illuminate anything 30+ feet away, and certainly not a lit stage, so it is literally doing little more than annoy people.

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: Scrump
Date: 06 Mar 07 - 04:26 AM

Actually Scrump - digital cameras can be extremely annoying if you're sitting behind the lovely person with the glowing little screen. Extremely distracting and annoying. I used to use mine when i first bought it, but then realised the effect it was having, and have now stopped doing so.

Good point, but I turn off the screen and use the viewfinder. I will only take photos if I can do so without holding the camera in such a way that it will get in the way of others (e.g. I don't hold it above my head, which I find annoying when others do it). If it's not easy from where I'm sitting, I just don't take any.

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: GUEST,Surreysinger
Date: 06 Mar 07 - 05:03 AM

Ah.. my first digi camera had a viewfinder, and I too used it in concert situations like that - on buying the current one, I found that most of the cameras in my price range didn't - something of a disadvantage in situations like concerts or out in bright sunshine... so I have reined myself in a bit now. Nothing worse than sitting towards the back of an auditorium or similar with lots of bright little screens shining away in your line of sight. I humbly nod the head in apology to you for assuming you were one of they ...!

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: Scrump
Date: 06 Mar 07 - 05:17 AM

Thoughtless flashers... Photographically thoughtless, as well. The flash on a digital camera is never going to illuminate anything 30+ feet away, and certainly not a lit stage, so it is literally doing little more than annoy people

Agreed. At a "photo-friendly" gig I once tried using the flash as an experiment, and I wasn't that far from the stage (a few rows back). The picture came out a lot worse than the one I took from the same point without flash.

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Mar 07 - 05:18 AM

I hope you always get permission from the artist before using any kind of recording device at any gig

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: Scrump
Date: 06 Mar 07 - 05:19 AM

The artists I photograph are only too happy for me to photograph them, post them on the web, etc.

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 06 Mar 07 - 05:38 AM

It's all very well not using your flash so's not to annoy the artist, but how about all those little red lights and things that flash to tell you that you're about to take a photo, that you're pressing the shutter and that you've just taken a photo?

I perform in concerts and it's very off-putting to see little red lights flashing intermittently in the audience, even more annoying than a flash might be. A red light to me is a warning, and when I see red lights flashing, I look for the sprinkler system about to go into icy tropical downpour mode.

I was at a concert once where the group playing introduced a 'photo opportunity song'. The group did one song, during which people could take whatever photos however they liked. Then, all cameras were to be put away. It worked surprisingly well.

I live in London, but I'm still not going to the Albert Hall, it's just too expensive, even without the overnight stay. The majority of seats are, as mentioned above, not at all comfortable and I dislike looking up a performers nose. Besides, why pay my whole weeks' pocket money when I can see them for free by stewarding a festival?!

LTS

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: Scrump
Date: 06 Mar 07 - 06:15 AM

I perform in concerts and it's very off-putting to see little red lights flashing intermittently in the audience, even more annoying than a flash might be.

As for me, if people photograph me while I'm performing in a concert, I'm just glad that they even want to photograph me.

It's when they stop wanting to, I'll start worrying!

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: Pete_Standing
Date: 06 Mar 07 - 06:21 AM

I find official photographers scurrying around distracting enough. I would prefer people to leave their cameras at home and just enjoy the music and allow the others around them to do likewise. Unless you are very close or have good zoom lenses, what do you get anyway? Lots of stage and audience and some smallish figures in the middle who you can pick out afterwards with the knowing eye of faith and when blown up are very grainy. If you want a memento of the concert, many artists are very willing to sign your CD (purchased there or elsewhere) or a programme.

BOT - I'll not be there but I hope that those of you who do have a great time - likewise to those going to the SoH gig too.

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 06 Mar 07 - 06:25 AM

Ah yes, but I perform in the sort of concerts where the best photo you'll get is likely to be of the conductors ass, and it's not that memorable!

LTS

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: GUEST,Bainbo at work
Date: 06 Mar 07 - 01:00 PM

The ones I find annoying are mobile phones (cell phones).

Those of us old enough will remember how certain songs used to produce a forest of matches, or cigarette lighters, waved above heads.

Now it's little glowing screens, as people all try to film the performance on their phones, then sit hunched over them as they send the film to all their mates.

I don't know why it's distracting when other people aren't paying attention at a concert they've paid money to attend. But it is.

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: Scrump
Date: 07 Mar 07 - 09:20 AM

Ah yes, but I perform in the sort of concerts where the best photo you'll get is likely to be of the conductors ass, and it's not that memorable!

If I saw a donkey in the concert hall, I think I'd photograph it! :-)

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 07 Mar 07 - 10:16 AM

I'm sorry, I should have said arse.

Will buttocks do?

LTS

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: Scrump
Date: 07 Mar 07 - 10:18 AM

I'm sorry, I should have said arse.

LOL - like the bloke in the Fast Show? :-)

Will buttocks do?

LTS

Thanks, but I'd prefer cash :-)

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 08 Mar 07 - 07:13 AM

"as people all try to film the performance on their phones, then sit hunched over them as they send the film to all their mates."


Braggarts...

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 08 Mar 07 - 07:51 AM

What was it TS Eliot said?

"The moments of happiness
We had the experience, but missed the meaning..."

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: Folkiedave
Date: 08 Mar 07 - 07:52 AM

Clearly you have never seen LTS's buttocks then Scrump.

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: Scrump
Date: 08 Mar 07 - 08:15 AM

Oops, sorry LTS, I didn't realise you were referring to your own buttocks. I thought you were talking about the conductor. Apologies for any embarrassment caused.

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: Allan Price
Date: 05 May 07 - 06:37 AM

If you haven't got your tickets yet, Genevieve is giving a couple away.
Listen to the show and answer Steve Heap's question.
It's on line until Sunday night (6 May). Sunday Folk
You need RealPlayer to listen.

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: GUEST,Spidey Bobe
Date: 19 May 07 - 03:37 PM

My recording came out very nicely, thankyou very much!

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: GUEST,Non smokie Joe
Date: 20 May 07 - 05:30 AM

Fantastic, are you going to post it on Dime or Zomb?

Subject: RE: The Watersons at The RAH
From: GUEST,Maart
Date: 20 May 07 - 06:07 AM

I wouldn't mind a copy!