BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 09:46 AM

The earth closet - the future?

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 09:47 AM

How come no one appeared to smell that one coming?

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: Wolfgang
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 09:49 AM

...when our forum could reasonably expect you to discuss the issue - like confirming (when requested to) the existence of the thread...

LOL. See what I mean, that's your idea of "discussion": confirm at your request. LOL

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 11:29 AM

See what I mean, that's your idea of "discussion": confirm at your request

Not really.

Given the title and subject which we were discussing in this thread - yours is perhaps the stanger idea of discussion?

As it includes making a refusal to a polite request to contribute some important information to the discussion - when this information is lacking or also intentionally witheld.

Unlike me - you may still have the right to choose what you will discuss or where you will discuss it on our forum but perhaps not to then critcise my idea of what a discussion is?

Wolfgang I expect we are possibly equally at fault. But as none of are perfect - we can surely have a discussion without the need to point out what each other's faults are?

Wishing you a Merry Christmas and a pedantic New Year.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 12:01 PM

"Not really."

Exactly. You don't see.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: Cluin
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 01:59 PM

Oh, SNAP!

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: Wolfgang
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 04:35 PM

Polite? That's not a word that comes to my mind when I'm thinking of you, Shambles. Your language is polite but you as a person are about as polite as a salesman ringing the bell each day of the week and asking whether I consider to rethink my initial no.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: Wolfgang
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 05:14 PM

The story of Sheila and Gregor

Gregor: Sheila, em, you know how much I like to come to your place and I think, I wish, what do you think about making love?
Sheila: Gregor, you are such a sweet person and you know how much I care for you, but it does not feel right. So, I'm afraid but I have to say no.
Gregor: But why, Sheila?
Sheila: I've thought about it for a long time, even before you have asked, and I think it is not what I feel comfortable with. I could have decided differently under different circumstances and I nearly did but as it is now the answer is no.
Short pause
Gregor: Don't you think we could reconsider my suggestion one more time. I mean it would be so much fun to both of us.
Sheila: Your persistence flatters me, Gregor, but I have said no.
Gregor: But why, Sheila?
Sheila: I have my reasons and I don't expect you to understand them so just accept what I have said as my final word.
Short pause
Gregor: But it could be so rewarding and so exiting
Sheila: I think you should learn to understand a no. My no will still be a no in five minutes, in an hour, tomorrow, next week or next month.
Gregor: Could you explain to me once more your reason for saying no?
Sheila: You wouldn't accept it anyway, so why should I?. Could we talk about something else?
Short pause
Gregor: But wouldn't making love be fun for you too?
Sheila: CAN'T YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORD NO?
Gregor: I don't know why you shout, Sheila, I'm just asking politely. So, how about we both just making love to each other?
GregorSheila: You bloody idiot, you behave like a complete asshole.
Gregor:: It disappoints me, Sheila, that you are using such words. Have I ever insulted you in a similar way?
Sheila: OH, JUST FUCK OFF:
Gregor: But you had invited me don't you remember? And do you think your insults are a good example to follow for others?
...

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: Peace
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 05:17 PM

My New Year's Resolution is to come to this thread every now and then and write, "If you don't like what Shambles has to say, don't read the thread."

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: catspaw49
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 06:06 PM

I dunno' Peace. That'd be okay but you might want to alternate. When you drop in now and "then" you post what you said which is very good. But on the times when you might drop in now and "again" you post, "Shambles, since everyone already knows your point, please take it to Max directly by PM."

Or here's something we could do together! I'll drop in and slam the livin' crap out of Roger, gettin' real nasty and all, then YOU post your line, "If you don't like what Shambles has to say, don't read the thread."   But then next time I'll try to explain the situation to Roger in a pleasant tone using logic and parsing his points one by one. So then YOU come in and post the other line, "Shambles, since everyone already knows your point, please take it to Max directly by PM."

Then when that gets boring we can swap roles for awhile. Or maybe one of us could take over BOTH jobs for a few weeks. Lots of options. One thing for sure, this thread will be here and a working thread for awhile longer.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: Peace
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 06:09 PM

Sounds good. So, uh, who's doing what now? OK, I'll do this:

Shambles, please speak with Max directly.

Back to you, Spaw.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: catspaw49
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 06:44 PM

Okay, lemmee think here......that means I should slam him so you can do the not read the thread post. Okay.....

Shamby-Pamby what is your problem man? Every swingin' dick in the joint has prettty much told you to get bent but you can't take "Fuck You" for an answer! Let me repeat for your benefit.....FUCK YOU!.....and the horse you rode in on. Matter of fact, you need to notice that your horse was killed by the last windmill you failed to topple but a broke-dick fanook like yourself probably beats animals. Matter of fact we DID see that from you before didn't we? Why not drop this sillyass vendetta against Max?   You DO relaize that it is Max you're attacking here don't you? Probably not.....what a fuckin' mook............

There.....That one included most of the aspects needed and followed generic lines. Sub a word here or there and you have a whole new post. Back atcha' Peace.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 07:32 PM

Don't you just hate it when you settle down all cosy, with the heating on and the curtains drawn. Kettles just boiled and your favourite film is due to start in five minutes and some uninvited and unexpected guest knocks on the door and says :

"It's fucking Christmas. Leave shambles alone and go and instil some seasonal fucking cheer where it is needed."

And then they rip your holly wreath off the door and piss off home.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: Bill D
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 08:03 PM

Peace...Catspaw.... do you two think you can handle this all by yourselves, now? (With the alternating posts, I mean..) Gee, that would free a BUNCH of others to...to...ummmm...What is it we do when we're not responding to Shambles complaints?

and, in case anyone cares, I **LOVE** Wolfgang's little story...*grin*...It does capture the essence of the whole multi-year adventure.

"I never met-a-phor I didn't like."
    Bill "Will Rogers" D.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: catspaw49
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 09:37 PM

I dunno' Bill. We're just getting started here and it will take some time to get into a rhythm of things. For instance we did too many tonight. I think we need to stretch it to a day or so intervals and see how it works.

And let me apologize in my haste to leap into this new project, I completely ignored my duty to post in support of a great post by Wolfgang. Well done wolfie.....really. As Bill says, it captures much of the essence of this whole thing beautifully.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 10:29 PM

Wolfgang's story is wonderful. ;-) And there are guys around like that too. Lots of them. There are even a few (fortunately very few) women like that. (shudder!)

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 05:40 AM

My New Year's Resolution is to come to this thread every now and then and write, "If you don't like what Shambles has to say, don't read the thread."

Good idea but you will see that this approach has been tried.

Perhaps if other posters followed your example - that may convince the usual noisy few but favoured posters that not only have they no right to be seen to bully and try to prevent others from posting their views.

That our forum has always been about Max encouraging posting - not finding ways to restrict and inhibit it.

And on a purely practical level - that all the 'fun' tactics encouraged to be used to this questionable end - over a long period of time - ranging from the current Chief of the Mudcat Editing Team setting the example of indulging in and encouraging abusive personal attacks and intentionally littering our forum with spam posts - have proved not only to be ineffective they seen to be totally counter-productive.

Being seen to encourage such tactics only serves to demonstrate that what is evidenced in my posting here and for which I am restricted and abused for trying to continue - will remain the truth.

For a mirror is being held up and if posters to our forum do not like seeing their reflection (and far less supportive posters than me pointing out how ugly this now appears) there is little point in closing one's eyes or devoting all efforts to break the mirror.

If it is accepted (and taken for granted) by certain posters and 'moderators' - that posters have the right to say what they wish and to see their words remain as posted (except perhaps for very rare extreme cases) - what more is there to be said by those who are now encouraged to feel they have some right to prevent and deny others that right?

My New Year's Resolution is to come to this thread every now and then and write, "If you don't like what Shambles has to say, don't read the thread."

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 05:59 AM

The analogy is perhaps a good one - I am just not sure which side is now supposed to be Don Quixote and who are the windmills?

Chords Req: Old Man's Song (Don Quixote)?

Perhaps the attempt to scorn and ridicule what is judged to be a Quixotic quest - is now seen to be more foolish and desparate and to be carried out in far more 'Quixotic' fashion that the original?

Which could have been ignored.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 06:29 AM

shambles, if as you pretend you do, you respect Max so highly, why do you not take the matter up with him in private?

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 06:59 AM

shambles, if as you pretend you do, you respect Max so highly, why do you not take the matter up with him in private?

Why would anyone assume that I have not?

But why is there any expectation of this - when I an other posters are seen to be judged, sentenced and abused by the current Chief of the Mudcat Editing Team and support for this is then sought and all this still undertaken in public?

Our forum is going to be what all the posters make it.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 07:08 AM

Our forum is going to be what all the posters make it.

It is now.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 08:43 AM

One day Charlie hearing a knock on his door, open it to find Helmut - who lived across the street from him.

Helmut asked Charlie to stop picking his nose and explained his concern..

Charlie asked what business of Helmut's it was if he did pick his nose and how Helmut was even aware that he had been picking his nose in his home?

Helmut explained that everyday when he went up into his attic - stood on an orange box and looked out of his window into Charlie's house through his telescope - he could clearly see Charlie picking his nose.

Helmut explained that looking at Charlie picking his nose was not an activity that was to Helmut's taste - and insisted that Charlie must stop it.

Charlie pointed out that Helmut did not have to go up to his attic everyday, stand on an orange box and look out of his window into Charlie's house through his telescope and that if Helmut did not go to all this trouble - he would not even be aware that Charlie was indulging in an activity that was not to Helmut's taste.

Charlie perhaps did not use these words.

And Helmut carried on complaining.

But Helmut carried on standing on an orange box and looking out of his window into Charlie's house through his telescope.

And Charlie carried on picking his nose in his own home - when he judged it to be necessary and enjoyable.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 08:45 AM

What on earth is shambles on about now?

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: number 6
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 08:55 AM

I dunno ... but ya gotta luv the shambles.

LOL ... that was good

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 09:11 AM

I think he's afraid of bogey men.
G.

Bogey

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 10:19 AM

Joe Bloggs birthday

The above harmless piece of fun (and another thread posted shortly after, questioning the first thread's deletion) was 'silently deleted' by persons and for reasons unknown.

The following is the type of post (from those presumably judged by the current Chief of the Mudcat Editing Team - to be nice persons) that is now encouraged and remains.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: catspaw49 - PM
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 06:44 PM

Okay, lemmee think here......that means I should slam him so you can do the not read the thread post. Okay.....

Shamby-Pamby what is your problem man? Every swingin' dick in the joint has prettty much told you to get bent but you can't take "Fuck You" for an answer! Let me repeat for your benefit.....FUCK YOU!.....and the horse you rode in on. Matter of fact, you need to notice that your horse was killed by the last windmill you failed to topple but a broke-dick fanook like yourself probably beats animals. Matter of fact we DID see that from you before didn't we? Why not drop this sillyass vendetta against Max?   You DO relaize that it is Max you're attacking here don't you? Probably not.....what a fuckin' mook............

There.....That one included most of the aspects needed and followed generic lines. Sub a word here or there and you have a whole new post. Back atcha' Peace.

Spaw
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Catspaw can say what he likes about you, until such time as you stop your incessant campaign against the way we do things here. You are not a nice person, Shambles. Do not expect to be treated nicely.
-Joe-

Please feel free to discuss the deletion here. This thread was a troll designed to open up another discussion on this topic. Not allowed under current rules. But you may discuss it here for another 3 years or so. Mudelf

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 10:27 AM

Maybe because it was a thread started with the idea of causing an argument, or pursuing an agenda Roger?
Can't think where he would have got that idea from can you?
G

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: GUEST,JB
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 10:43 AM

Shambles
Thank you - I posted the JBB thread as a tongue in cheek 'harmless piece of fun'.
I then posted a comment 'so much for free speech' when I saw it had been deleted.
As you say, very selective policing here - odd, when so much other rubbish 'is encouraged and remains'
JoeB

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: GUEST,Maggie C
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 10:47 AM

I'm surprised this thread itself hasn't been deleted !

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: number 6
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 10:51 AM

Why Maggie?

It happens to be one of the most popular threads down here in the BS.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 11:15 AM

Maybe because it was a thread started with the idea of causing an argument, or pursuing an agenda Roger?

Well I wouldn't know about such things, for I just simply try to post my views.

When it comes to pursuing an agenda and being seen to be making attempts to prevent other posters from posting their views - the current Chief of the Mudcat Editing Team, you and a few noisy other posters would perhaps be the best ones to know and to judge such things as agendas?

Public speculations of the possible motives for a poster starting a thread are as pointless as they are endless.

For a thread's intention matters little. It is up to all the posters our forum what the thread becomes and I would suggest that they should be the ones allowed to decide.

But where there may be threads and posts where 'silent deletion' may be judged to be a proportionate response by our anonymous 'moderators' - are such threads as these really the ones and is this drastic action to be seen to the first and only method of dealing with them?   

And is our forum now so frightened of argument and only for the like-minded now?

But if such action is judge by our 'moderators' to be proportionate - should this action be imposed secretly? Why can not the fact that such action has been judged to be proportionate to be imposed on our forum and in their name - be at least recorded openly?

Then you would not need to speculate and use the word 'maybe'. For you I and all the posters on our forum would know and could then have a say if we judged the action to have been proportionate.

Then you would not need to speculate and use the word 'maybe'. For you I and all the posters on our forum would know and could then have a say if we judged the action to have been proportionate.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: Wesley S
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 11:41 AM

Roger - Have a Merry Christmas - and a Happy New year.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 11:46 AM

You may have missed the following editing comment - it was inserted into this thread and did not refresh it.

Please feel free to discuss the deletion here. This thread was a troll designed to open up another discussion on this topic. Not allowed under current rules. But you may discuss it here for another 3 years or so.
Mudelf

I am grateful for the permission given by this anonymous 'moderator' for our forum to discuss this deletion here - but whether our forum will be free to discuss anything at all in the next three years is looking rather unlikely at this rate.

As for the current rules not allowing another discussion on this subject - perhaps these current rules can be displayed?

Whatever our 'moderator judges these current rules will allow - it is clear that the threads that were 'silently deleted' were not trying (heaven forbid) to open up another discussion on this topic - they were designed to try to make a point about birthday threads...................

As they were not as claimed by our anonymous 'moderator' and did not meet the required criteria for 'silent deletion' - perhaps they can be restored to enable our forum to be allowed to judge the fate of these threads?

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 12:44 PM

The earth closet - the future? (closed)

The above thread has been closed for the following reasons - given by the current Chief of the Mudcat Editing Team.

Closed by Joe Offer, for obvious reasons.
Merry Christmas.
-Joe Offer-

reasons which are not very obvious at all - when you see what sort of posts by certain favoured posters are now encouraged to be posted and remain uncensured on our forum - by the current Chief of the Mudcat Editing Team.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 01:24 PM

Posters who do wish the discuss the earth closet are allowed to on what remains of the original thread The earth closet - the future?

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 02:31 PM

Once again Roger you have triumphed, by forcing the closure of yet another thread. Don't blame Joe Offer or anybody other than yourself, you set out to deliberately provoke just that outcome, so you can jump up and down in childish glee screaming 'Joe closed another thread, Joe closed another thread' However he sort of spiked your guns by editing out all the non relevant threads, and leaving the rest intact!
Don't bother with the smug answer you usually give, "Who's to know what's in someone's mind when they start a thread" We all know that your aim on Mudcat is to sow dissent, and to try and turn people against Joe Offer. Well I have news for you Roger he is not just the present head of the Mudcat editing team, he is also the secure and future head of the team, and you are likely to go long before he does.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 02:58 PM

Once again Roger you have triumphed, by forcing the closure of yet another thread. Don't blame Joe Offer or anybody other than yourself, you set out to deliberately provoke just that outcome, so you can jump up and down in childish glee screaming 'Joe closed another thread, Joe closed another thread' However he sort of spiked your guns by editing out all the non relevant threads, and leaving the rest intact!

If you were right about my intentions - surely the most effective way of 'spiking my guns' (to use another term of warefare) would be be not to be seen to supply our forum with yet another needless example of imposed editing action?

Perhaps you could explain to our forum:

What the obvious reasons actually were that made this action so necessary?
What it has achieved?
Why exactly you would blame only me when the current Chief of the Mudcat Editing Team decides for reasons of his own subject yet another thread to imposed closure?
And why posters just could not have been left to decide the fate of that thread for themselves?

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 03:16 PM

What the obvious reasons actually were that made this action so necessary?

Because you intentionally subverted the thread with non relevant posts
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What it has achieved?

It has saved innocent strangers stumbling upon another Shambles infested thread
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Why exactly you would blame only me when the current Chief of the Mudcat Editing Team decides for reasons of his own subject yet another thread to imposed closure?

Because only you try to bend all threads to suit your futile agenda
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And why posters just could not have been left to decide the fate of that thread for themselves?

Because not all posters can be trusted to know where to draw the line.

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Next question?

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 03:54 PM

Subject: RE: BS: The earth closet - the future?
From: Joe Offer - PM
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 12:32 PM

Please remember that this is a thread about earth closets. It is not to be used for complaining about Mudcat editing policy, or for attacks on Shambles.
-Joe Offer-

It is difficult to keep from laughing out loud whilst reading the above.

Given the ironic fact that the whole (worthy) thread subject of earth closets came directly from the attacks on me that are now seen to be encouraged by the current Chief of the Mudact Editing Team.

If I remember correctly - it was a suggestion from my ever present little Scotch stalker - about burying shit?

But - unless I am also to be blamed for posting to attack myself - along with the individual who actually closed it - there would appear to be posters other than me to blame for the course of that thread.....

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 03:57 PM

That's right Roger, take responsibility for nothing as usual.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: Peace
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 04:00 PM

Keep up the good work, Roger.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 04:27 PM

It would appear to be one of your favourite ploys Roger, to avoid responsibility for your misdemeanours by saying "He started it" Yet when you post, you ask people to ignore you, and ask why is it necessary to respond?
This is totally contradictory, as if it's necessary for you to respond to a post by someone, it's also necessary for us to respond to you too.
Of course I don't expect you to see the inconsistency in that!

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 09:18 PM

Subject: RE: BS: The earth closet - the future?
From: John 'Giok' MacKenzie - PM
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 09:25 AM

The Unofficial Mudcat Dictionary


Thread creep. adj.
A person who creeps around other peoples' threads on an internet discussion site, adding his own posts, usually totally irrelevant.
AKA. Dipstick, Broke Dick Mammalucca, Fuckwit, Shamby Wamby.

Wishing you all a Happy Hogmanay.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 23 Dec 06 - 05:24 AM

Good job you saved that before Father Offer deleted it Roger ¦¬]

A merry Christmas and a happy new year to you too.

Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 23 Dec 06 - 05:25 AM

Please feel free to discuss the deletion here. This thread was a troll designed to open up another discussion on this topic. Not allowed under current rules. But you may discuss it here for another 3 years or so.
Mudelf

As for the current rules not allowing another discussion on this subject - perhaps these current rules can be displayed?

Our forum may be aware that the current Chief of the Mudcat Editing Team has restricted my posting - it may be a surprise that 'current rules' now mean that every poster is restricted in similar manner and that any new thread on any aspect will be 'silently deleted'.

As for being free to discuss this subject on this single thread - that is doubtful.

Especially as even trying to discuss this subject in this clearly titled thread is proving difficult enough. Posters now reading this thread have to be subjected to any of the foul and abusive name-calling and scatological references that a certain poster wishes to and is not only allowed to post but is now seen to be openly encouraged to post - by the current Chief of the Mudcat Editing Team.

There is some irony in that this poster did not contribute or display any of their usual scatological references in the the now closed 'earth closet' thread.

Do these unseen 'current rules' mean that our 'moderators' will also 'silently delete' any thread started which heaps uncritical praise of their efforts?

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Dec 06 - 05:35 AM

Father Offer deleted that post? Right.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 23 Dec 06 - 06:10 AM

"Subject: RE: BS: The earth closet - the future?
From: Joe Offer - PM
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 12:32 PM

Please remember that this is a thread about earth closets. It is not to be used for complaining about Mudcat editing policy, or for attacks on Shambles.
-Joe Offer-"

Yes anonymous Guest, and I have no problem with that.
Perhaps that was what I wanted to happen?

¦¬]

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 23 Dec 06 - 06:59 AM

Father Offer deleted that post? Right

Wrong.

And I am surprised that other posters who appear to be quick to correct such things have not posted to already do so.

In fact the current Chief of the Mudcat Editing Team took far more time and trouble to first select all the posts that he judged to be on topic and placed or left) them into a thread titled 'The earth closet - the future'. This excluding posts of mine that were both on topic and also answering other points raised.

The posts that he judged to be not addressing the subject of earth closets - he placed in new thread that he created and titled The earth closet - the future (closed).

And after selflessly making all these unasked for efforts on our behalf - the current Chief of the Mudcat editing team then closed it. The thread only - hopefully not the future.

Which is not technically deleting the thread - as if you should make a note of that thread's URL - it is possible to later read but not to refresh or contribute - when the thread falls off the bottom of the Mudcat world (otherwise referred to as the index).

You can then always make a special request to our 'moderators' to open the thread again.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Dec 06 - 07:11 AM

My remark was sarcastic. Moderators will do that for each other. Mod 1 wants a post deleted so s/he asks Mod 2 to take care of it. It gets handled. Or the Mod deletes the post and says s/he didn't.

I read a post by a Mod a few years back in which it was said in essence that "I never delete a post if it looks like I have an issue with the person I would delete." Of course that is true. The Mod simply gets a friend to do it.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts (2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 23 Dec 06 - 08:23 AM

The Mod simply gets a friend to do it.

The current Chief of the Mudcat Editing Team does not appear to need a friend to do this for him............

What does this tell us?