Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 09:52 AM

BRIAN:
Look. You've got it all wrong. You don't need to follow me. You don't need to follow anybody! You've got to think for yourselves. You're all individuals!
FOLLOWERS:
Yes, we're all individuals!
BRIAN:
You're all different!
FOLLOWERS:
Yes, we are all different!
DENNIS:
I'm not.
ARTHUR:
Shhhh.
FOLLOWERS:
Shh. Shhhh. Shhh.
BRIAN:
You've all got to work it out for yourselves!
FOLLOWERS:
Yes! We've got to work it out for ourselves!
BRIAN:
Exactly!
FOLLOWERS:
Tell us more!
BRIAN:
No! That's the point! Don't let anyone tell you what to do! Otherwise-- Ow! No!

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 09:54 AM

Oh good Christ, here comes the Shambo favorite Max quote. The fact that it was 7 years ago and a throw-off line means nothing to our lad!!! Go for it Shambolina!!!!

You might also want to quote yourself from that time period......You know, the part about leaving and not coming back until you felt welcome.......Why are bitching and moaning now? You must feel welcome or you wouldn't have come back. You said so 7 years ago!

Spaw

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 09:56 AM

FOLLOWERS:
Tell us more!

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 10:07 AM

Shambles, there is no need to ask Max - just go to the FAQ and you will find:

"The Mudcat Cafe reserves the right to edit, move, combine, rename, or delete all threads and messages posted in the Forum. We will try our best to edit sparingly, but there are times when we may have to take some action to keep the peace, or to protect the interests of our community. Editorial decisions are made by Max, Jeff/Pene Azul, and Joe Offer, or under their direction."

End of story. They can do as they see fit and 99% of us have no problem with that.

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: MMario
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 10:10 AM

They can do as they see fit and 99% of us have no problem with that

And even if there was a stated policy that they would NOT edit, etc; Max (and his appointed proxies) still would have the legal right to do so.

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: Peace
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 10:16 AM

"And here I sit so patiently
Waiting to find out what price
Ya have to pay to get out of
Going through all these things twice"

(Thank you Mr Zimmerman.)

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 10:34 AM

Please guys, don't confuse the issue with facts!!! Besides if you point out the Shambo's failings here, this will cease to be a Shamblecentric thread and he will want to start another.

Besides, if anybody would read the FAQ, most of these threads would have closed ages ago! (;<))

Spaw

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 10:38 AM

"The Mudcat Cafe reserves the right to edit, move, combine, rename, or delete all threads and messages posted in the Forum. We will try our best to edit sparingly, but there are times when we may have to take some action to keep the peace, or to protect the interests of our community. Editorial decisions are made by Max, Jeff/Pene Azul, and Joe Offer, or under their direction."

Whose words do those sound like? Could it be the same fellow poster who was responsible for much of the rest of a FAQ? A FAQ which was provided when in our forum's history exactly?

How long after many of us had already been posting to Max's forum on the basis of his public statements?

The concept of a right to impose all of those things being kept in reserve is one that few of us would argue with.

However we may have some justification to argue when such powers are used as a matter of routine and selectively against certain targets but not against others.

When those trusted to keep the peace indulge themselves in abusive personal attacks and encourage others to follow this example.

And when most of this imposed censorship is undertaken to shape our forum to the tastes of a few and all under the excuse of protecting us from abusive personal attacks.

Methods which now the Chief of the Mudcat Editing Team has publicly admitted have failed to impose the required peace and who now proposes to turn our BS forum into a private members club and to screen all Guest posts to the music section - but does not wish the posters there to be informed.

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 10:45 AM

Shambles, try to be reasonable. The owners of this site can make changes when they see fit, it is not censorship because the site is not subject to the First Ammendment, the people who run the site are the people who run the site and you have no say in the matter, their taste are what counts, and they can use their "powers" when they see fit. It can be arbitrary. THERE IS NO PROBLEM WITH THAT!!! If you look around you will see you are in a very small minority of users of this site (we are users, not owners)and all you are doing is making a spectacle of yourself.   Give it up! You don't have a chance of getting your way. All you are doing is acting like a little kid who holds his breath to try to turn blue. All you are doing is giving yourself a headache and giving the rest of us something to laugh at.

END OF STORY!!!!!!!

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 10:51 AM

"Whose words do those sound like? Could it be the same fellow poster who was responsible for much of the rest of a FAQ? A FAQ which was provided when in our forum's history exactly?

How long after many of us had already been posting to Max's forum on the basis of his public statements?"

WHO GIVES A TURKEY DIPTHONG? [It was suggested that Dipthong was more appropriate than referring to Sham as Kumquat(;<))]

Do you think Joe slipped that into FAQ when Max wasn't looking or what? Max approved ALL of those words regardless of the author....and actually that is exactly the same language as is used in thousands of other forums.

Ooops.....Once again the truth is in the way of a good Shammy Tale. My apologies Roger. Please start over with the "Once upon a time" part...............

Spaw

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: bobad
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 11:09 AM

I think spaw's idea is brilliant - give Shambles his own permathread, where he can bellyache to his heart's content, and make it the only one to which he can post, the others can also post to it when they are moved to do so. How about it Joe?

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 11:10 AM

I may disagree with what you say

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 11:10 AM

Do you leave your front door open all night and consider that every stranger in the street has a "right" to come into your home and do whatever damage they like?

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 11:13 AM

What's with the link? Can you simply provide us with a synopsis of what you are trying to say instead of asking us to decipher an out of date thread?

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 11:14 AM

Do you need to be censored

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 11:15 AM

END OF STORY!!!!!!!

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: MMario
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 11:15 AM

ron - he hasn't managed that in the four - or is it five? years he's been on this campaign.

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 11:17 AM

Oh no Ron......NOT THAT

Do you really want to subject "Max's Forum" to more convoluted logic and battered syntax? ........... Then again, why not? This stuff is better than going to The Comedy Store (:<))

Spaw

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 11:25 AM

Responses to bullying

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 11:25 AM

I'm just confused by all the links to obscure and convulted threads that make no sense to begin with.   Say your point instead of wrapping it up with all the BS. I'm still not sure what Shambles is really asking for.

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 11:28 AM

Proposal for members only posting of BS

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 11:28 AM

Good thing there is no bullying going on here. I'm hoping that Shambles does not think that those of us who are disagreeing with his point and trying to reason with him would consititute bullying.

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 11:29 AM

I still don't think he gets your point Ron.............LMAO

Spaw

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 11:30 AM

Would it help if I start adding links? Is this some new conversational style that I haven't learned yet?

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 11:32 AM

It might Ron.....Here, start with this one:

Move on down the line

Spaw

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 11:36 AM

And then go with maybe, say, this one:

A Warm Goodbye

Spaw

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 11:37 AM

Censorship on Mudcat

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 11:39 AM

Do we need to curb the troublemakers?

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: Peace
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 11:49 AM

So many erudite people here--many of whom have said: "If you don't like the thread, stay away from it." Any of y'all gonna take yer own advice?

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 11:51 AM

Subject: RE: BS: why all the closed threads?
From: Joe Offer - PM
Date: 18 Apr 06 - 01:42 PM

That's, right, Shambles. No rules. We are not slaves to mindless legalism here. Nonetheless, we do expect people to be civil toward one another. If they're not, we reserve the right to use moderation techniques to keep the peace.

Sometimes, those moderation techniques will work - and sometimes they will not. We also reserve the right to be human, and to be allowed to make occasional mistakes or to do things that other people might do otherwise.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: MMario
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 11:55 AM

I really have to wonder, given some of the qoutes The Shambles makes - if he reads them or not.

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 11:55 AM

"The Mudcat Cafe reserves the right to edit, move, combine, rename, or delete all threads and messages posted in the Forum."

End of story

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 11:58 AM

Non posting of judgements week

How many ends can one story have?

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 11:59 AM

He hasn't taken his own advice in years

"The Mudcat Cafe reserves the right to edit, move, combine, rename, or delete all threads and messages posted in the Forum. We will try our best to edit sparingly, but there are times when we may have to take some action to keep the peace, or to protect the interests of our community. Editorial decisions are made by Max, Jeff/Pene Azul, and Joe Offer, or under their direction."

Note the FAQ DOES SAY "We will try our best to edit sparingly.".....It doesn't say "not at all".......Max approved that whether you like it or not Shambo....(:<))

Spaw

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 12:00 PM

A (true) jellyfish story

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 12:00 PM

Wait a minute here...... Are you saying this is the end of the story and you're stopping now?

Spaw

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 12:04 PM

Subject: RE: Explain the BS rules
From: Max - PM
Date: 26 Oct 99 - 12:40 AM

Since you are with us, you get to help us make the rules. Of late it seems that it is used for non-music related questions, comments, thoughts and stories. It may be like just a light conversation piece, or just killing time, or getting through a bad day, or anything non-academic (if you will). Or, just don't use it. It is what you make it. Don't sweat the rules, cause there aint none.

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 12:05 PM

"The Mudcat Cafe reserves the right to edit, move, combine, rename, or delete all threads and messages posted in the Forum."

End of story

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 12:13 PM

Do you need to be censored?

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 12:15 PM

Have you stopped beating your wife?

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 12:15 PM

"The Mudcat Cafe reserves the right to edit, move, combine, rename, or delete all threads and messages posted in the Forum."

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: Janie
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 12:18 PM

"The Mudcat Cafe reserves the right to edit, move, combine, rename, or delete all threads and messages posted in the Forum."

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 12:21 PM

"Have you stopped beating your wife?"

Actualy Giok, he hasn't stopped beating himself! He'd type faster but the hair on his palms slows him down.

Now that this thread is thoroughly off topic, I think Sham needs to go back to what is almost a permathread for him.....the one that Joe said will DEFINITELY be left open for him to express his views. Problem is, I don't think he can stand having only one Shamblecentric thread going................

Spaw

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 12:24 PM

Looks like our forum is NOT going to be change into a private members only club then? And Guest posts on the music section will not now be subject to a review before they appear?

End of story then?

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 12:27 PM

Shamble's Faux Perma-Thread for Moaning and Such


Spaw

Subject: The Mudcat Cafe reserves the right....
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 12:32 PM

"The Mudcat Cafe reserves the right to edit, move, combine, rename, or delete all threads and messages posted in the Forum."

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: MMario
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 12:36 PM

Shambles - only Max can decide that - and only Max can answer you. And *IF* Max answers you - then it doesn't mean he won't implement those or other changes in the future. Or not implement them.

All of which information was posted previously to your starting this thread.

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 12:52 PM

But Mario, doncha' just gots to luv it???

Lemmee see if I have it straight..........

Schmambutt now is claiming a great victory as he has stopped the evil Joe Offer. Sham invents a new twist to what Joe wrote which was simply a proposal then when the Sham admits it is just a proposal, he slaps himself on the back for a job well done. Meantime, while he is NOT willing to see that this was a proposal, he keeps harping that something which IS a fact (and in the FAQ) is not for real.

Ahhhh, the intracacies of the Shamble's World. LMAO.....Ya' know I think Roger needs to take a new name. Maybe FUBAR Shambles or something because he truly is (FUBAR that is)

I can't keep from laughing which is why this post is taking so long........I have to try this for myself.

THE SKY IS FALLING....THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!

GET BACK UP THERE SKY....I COMMAND YOU...GO BACK UP!!!

The sky is now in place and ya' know I do feel good......I am the saviour of the world today!!! The sky is no longer falling!! Damn but I'm good!!

Spaw

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: MMario
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 12:55 PM

All Hail Catspaw! Look upon his works, ye Mighty, and despair!

Subject: RE: Music posts by Guests to be reviewed.(2)
From: The Shambles
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 12:55 PM

Shambles - only Max can decide that - and only Max can answer you. And *IF* Max answers you - then it doesn't mean he won't implement those or other changes in the future. Or not implement them.

Don't worry so MMario - I have it on the highest possible authority.

Spaw.....Who reiterates that the entire premise of these two threads is complete crappola. IF it was about to happen Max would post it above the line.