Help me work out this Breton tune!

Subject: Help me work out this Breton tune!
From: GUEST,matt milton
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 12:45 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6up1gZxXjdM

See video link. Really odd modal tune that I love and would like to play. But I can't get my head around the structure.

I can play the notes easily enough but the repeats are doing my head in. Is it just an A part and a B part being repeated irregularly? My brain can't follow it. What's the logic behind when one of the pair of players plays a part on his own?

Subject: RE: Help me work out this Breton tune!
From: gillymor
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 01:26 PM

Here's a Hanter Dro but as you know the naming of Breton tunes is somewhat mysterious. I'll let you make your own assessments.

Subject: RE: Help me work out this Breton tune!
From: Jack Campin
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 01:52 PM

This seems to be the same tune, with dancers to make sense of it. They just keep on doing the same pattern over and over - totally ignoring that odd hiccup (there are other hanter dros where you don't ignore it).

https://youtu.be/c6ROg2muvpg

So it doesn't make any difference what repeat pattern you play.

Subject: RE: Help me work out this Breton tune!
From: Jack Campin
Date: 28 Jun 19 - 02:53 PM

And this (different) tune shows where the polyphonic stuff comes from and what happens when you mean the hiccup:

https://youtu.be/p7Vll9S1SLg

Subject: RE: Help me work out this Breton tune!
From: Mr Red
Date: 29 Jun 19 - 02:24 AM

Hanter Dro it says

Wiki on Breton dance & link in Wiki to Breton dance music

We often dance Plinns that can change from Hanter Dro to An Dro and dances where the changes are sporadic because the musos like a larf - pilé-menu sounds like it could be one of those. And dances with three different parts where the tune informs you of the move.

But don't ask me I just wait for the music and watch others dance.