BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?

Subject: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: GUEST, Phoenix
Date: 08 Sep 06 - 04:37 PM

I really hope it does and it has to start somewhere so why not here? So 'post for peace' and good luck.

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: mg
Date: 08 Sep 06 - 05:07 PM

Im all for it. mg

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 08 Sep 06 - 05:12 PM

Will this thread ever bring world peace?

No.

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Sep 06 - 05:20 PM

Those who are most responsible for world UN-peace don't read here. Not sure it would help if they did.

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 08 Sep 06 - 05:22 PM

Only if this thread kills the whole human race will it bring 'peace'

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: bobad
Date: 08 Sep 06 - 05:32 PM

That's an interesting thought Clinton, it would imply that the "normal" condition of humanity is one of conflict.

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: GUEST, Phoenix
Date: 08 Sep 06 - 05:38 PM

Give it a chance Jon it's only just started!

"Those who are most responsible for world UN-peace don't read here"

Not yet Bill D, but as I said to Jon the thread's only just started. Give it a day or two at least.

"Only if this thread kills the whole human race will it bring 'peace'"

But we've never tried the 'thread' approach to peace Clinton, so you never know?

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Sep 06 - 05:45 PM

so...if we suddenly GET world peace, we take credit? That will sure get a big laugh down at the U.N.

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: bobad
Date: 08 Sep 06 - 05:48 PM

"THIS THREAD KILLS CONFLICT"

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: Emma B
Date: 08 Sep 06 - 05:53 PM

Well if "Charity begins at home" - how about bringing some peace to the BS too

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 08 Sep 06 - 06:04 PM

why not, most other things have failed. it stands a chance.

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 08 Sep 06 - 06:14 PM

No, but if we could get three million people to join hands in a continuous chain across the United States, I'm sure THAT would bring world peace.

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: catspaw49
Date: 08 Sep 06 - 06:21 PM

...especially if they sing a few stanzas of "Kumbaya"........

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: bobad
Date: 08 Sep 06 - 06:21 PM

BRING BACK IDEALISM!

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 Sep 06 - 06:49 PM

The thread title calls forth images of half-naked airheaded beauty queens, toothily expressing "world peace" as their one wish for mankind - as though their standing around like that were going to accomplish it.

Well, maybe they'll distract the troops for a while...
-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: bobad
Date: 08 Sep 06 - 08:47 PM

"half-naked airheaded beauty queens,"

You say that as if it were a bad thing.

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Sep 06 - 09:05 PM

If it just gets rid of Clinton Hammond, that would be good enough for me. Anyway, I think world peace is a little too much to expect right now.

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: bobad
Date: 08 Sep 06 - 09:18 PM

Lettuce spray for whirled peas

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: Beer
Date: 08 Sep 06 - 09:38 PM

You can't even get peace here.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 08 Sep 06 - 09:58 PM

This thread will almost certainly not produce any additional world conflict. That's a start.

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Sep 06 - 10:22 PM

Neither will my aunt's underwear.

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 08 Sep 06 - 11:13 PM

So what are you trying to say, Little Hawk? That the world would be a more peaceful place if everybody wore your aunt's underwear?

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Sep 06 - 11:32 PM

No, I am saying that my Aunt's underwear is unlikely to ever bring strong men to put their lives on the line on the field of war.

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Sep 06 - 11:38 PM

I love my country to the stars and back.
I was only six and what I knew made me love America to the bursting point.
What did I know? I knew fishing in the Ozarks, I knew my parents driving across our great country, I knew we won a war against monsters, I knew great movies like the 50 ft. woman, I knew singing this land is my land and loved our land. I looked at the moon and Saturn tjrough my uncle's telescope. The most exciting thing we watched was Sputnik. We felt proud that man made his first star in the heavens but some people sounded worried too.

When I was seven I heard fearful whispers about the unamericans and the Russians who might blow us up in a surprise atomic attack.
When I was seven I remember my parents argue if I should see the Nazi films of the Holocaust that I learned 40 years later had been edited by Alfred Hitchcock. I saw the skinny bodies bulldozed, I saw the naked ladies hiding themselves as they were rushed to a crater's edge.

I was nearly eight while learning old union songs, Al Jolson tunes and the mountainous deep canyon voice of Paul Robeson aing "You know who I am, I'm America", and I loved my country. The whispers faded and in their place clear voices told me what our country did some great men and women. My country was hurting people in this country I love so much. I knew all too well about things not being fair.
My river changed colors daily depending on what color they were dyeing shoes at Endicott Johnson shoe factory.

At eight I listened to the Civil War on 33 rpm records. The Sargent yelled FIRE and the boom shook my bones over and over again. Lincoln said to me "A house divided against itself can not stand." Then on the other side he read the Gettysburg address to me. In class the practice for atomic attack was as much fun as it was scary. Then the last Civil war veteran died right before I turned 9. I love my country and those who sacrificed for America.

At nine I had my first big bike and I was touching and feeling America. I wasn't just listening anymore I was talking about world peace while other kids said their dad says to trust the brass.
My dad told me about the working man and imperialism. I pretended to know what imperialism was but I love my country.

At ten eleven and twelve the forest, creeks and rivers were my paradise. Warren Fries showed me what was inside his grocery bag. It was a giant snowy white owl that he shot dead. I was so angry that the owl and its family were gone from our woods that I grabbed the owl from Warren then changed my mind and swore never to play together again. He was the first friend I saw cry when he understood exactly how mortal he was.

The world really started pushing back against words about peace and the waste of war. I was beaten half a dozen times in school. Twice I was sent to the hospital. Dad taught at the college so I could hear a seminar about China and how great they were growing. If I shared that at school there were self appointed football players who enforced their world view by breaking my nose in the locker room.
Although I didn't know any I was was called a nigger lover and sometimes a Jewish cocksucker despite the fact I was neither.

Viet Nam was front and center with mounting body counts at dinner time. And I loved my country so much I tried to tell people that there must be a better way. A house divided against itself will not stand. Love it or leave it shouted back at give peace a chance.
I can't tell you how many friends died or disappeared. Even the shoe factory was gone. They said it went to Taiwan.

Even the love it leave it people were broken. Their house could not stand the loss of their sons. They were betrayed and some blamed the protestors and some knew they were decieved but could never say it loud lest their children would somehow die in vain the moment the truth passed their lips. They were silent and they were the majority.

Free white and 21 I joined the 60's party. Finally a man I found an occupation to heal people. I was slose enough to 3 mile island that I felt the sickening nausea in my head the night before it was announced. America was feeling proud again when Reagan finally won a war. It wasn't the big bomb war but a little one that rhymed with grenade. The CIA had no clue when the USSR downsized but Reagan got the credit by running up ours.

The unmentionable pain faded as the parents died in pain. The Gulf war was being sold to a new crew but with talk radio cheer leaders.
Now I know about imperialism. My country never had coonies but we had perpetual war. We rarely if ever obeyed ur treaties. We were ready to try new weapons, uranium weapons from our used up rods inside our nuclear tea kettles. I cried over the poisons that I know our country is eating and breathing because I love my country.

Commie, pinko, love it or leave it, unpatriotic, traitor, Hitler lover and appeaser, I am still called names like I was in the high school locker room. But I still love my country enough to speak out when we make the mistake of giving our lives to a military machine run by corporations that own the Congress and media.

When 2 million of us fill the streets of our Capitol and we are still invisible to the media we must try harder. When we win elections but lose the count we must try to love our country harder.
When the word freedom zone stands for barbed wire pens we must break out. When we truely love our country we may just learn to love the world, and the world us.

I dream that a new Lincoln will speak to this country with an intelligent clarity. I dream that we will all have something to unite us. That we can all stand for a republic to do business as well as a democracy to help our people to love our land.

I have but one cup of cool water to spill on the beach but if enough of us fill our glasses and march to the shore we may even be able to cool an ocean. Cool the idealoges, cool the defense contractors in their own neighborhoods and cool a religious fever that needs to break before we return to health.

Yes I love my country to the stars and back. And I'm sure you do too.


As always donuel
Don Hakman
MD

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Sep 06 - 11:43 PM

"No, I am saying that my Aunt's underwear is unlikely to ever bring strong men to put their lives on the line on the field of war."

If I never have to eat another pair of them I will GLADLY put my life on the line.

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Sep 06 - 11:58 PM

You, sir, are talking through your hat. ;-) You know nothing of my Aunt's underwear.

Heartfelt words, Donuel. Virtually all people love their country deeply. I know I do. The ones who are against a war love their country just as much as the ones who are for it, but they will always be called traitors, appeasers, and other such words...by those whose love for country is framed in a different sets of ideas and understandings.

I've read books about the Japanese who were working for an end to their war in 1945. They were called traitors, cowards, and worse. Many of them were arrested by the military, and some were executed.

It always happens that way when any country is involved in an unjust war and someone dares to speak up against it.

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: catspaw49
Date: 09 Sep 06 - 12:04 AM

Geeziz Don....Did you have to post that on this sillyass thread? I mean, I was about to ask Hawk to send me a pair of his aunt's panties for private verification and then you crank out that beauty. Geeziz..............

Skip the drawers Hawk.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Sep 06 - 12:35 AM

clean underwear may be the key
nothin else I've tried has worked

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Sep 06 - 12:44 AM

CLEAN? NOW you tell me.

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: Kaleea
Date: 09 Sep 06 - 12:57 AM

Bill Cosby noted, about 4 decades ago, the difficulty in keeping one's unmentionables clean is that "First you say it, then you do it."

And remember, while you're changing your unmentionables, to visualize whirrled peas!

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: Barry Finn
Date: 09 Sep 06 - 03:03 AM

Hey Donuel could ya put that to music. It'd have to be one of the most beautiful & patriotic songs. Better yet let it stand it couldn't get any better

Thanks for putting words to my youth during the 60's & updating it for todays frame.

Barry

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Sep 06 - 10:27 AM

I wrote this in the spirit of Norman Corwin who wrote radio plays.

PLEASE get this into music if you can.

Here is a cleaner version...


I love my country to the stars and back.
I was only six and what I knew made me love America to the bursting point.
What did I know? I knew fishing in the Ozarks, I knew my parents driving across our great country, I knew we won a war against monsters, I knew great movies like the 50 ft. woman, I knew singing this land is my land and loved our land. I looked at the moon and Saturn through my uncle's telescope. The most exciting thing we watched was Sputnik. We felt proud that man made his first star in the heavens but some people sounded worried too.

When I was seven I heard fearful whispers about the unamericans and the Russians who might blow us up in a surprise atomic attack.
When I was seven I remember my parents argue if I should see the Nazi films of the Holocaust that I learned 40 years later had been edited by Alfred Hitchcock. I saw the skinny bodies bulldozed, I saw the naked ladies hiding themselves as they were rushed to a crater's edge.

I was nearly eight while learning old union songs, Al Jolson tunes and the mountainous deep canyon voice of Paul Robeson singing "You know who I am… America", and I loved my country. The whispers faded and in their place clear voices told me what our country did some great men and women. My country was hurting people in this country I love so much. I knew all too well about things not being fair.
My river changed colors daily depending on what color they were dyeing shoes at Endicott Johnson shoe factory.

At eight I listened to the Civil War on 33 rpm records. The Sergeant yelled FIRE and the boom shook my bones over and over again. Lincoln said to me "A house divided against itself can not stand." Then on the other side he read the Gettysburg address to me. In class the practice for atomic attack was as much fun as it was scary. Then the last Civil war veteran died right before I turned 9. I love my country and those who sacrificed for America.

At nine I had my first big bike and I was touching and feeling America. I wasn't just listening anymore I was talking about world peace while other kids said their dad trusts the brass.
My dad told me about the working man and imperialism. I pretended to know what imperialism was but I love my country.

At ten eleven and twelve the forest, creeks and rivers were my paradise. Warren Fries showed me what was inside his grocery bag. It was a giant snowy white owl that he shot dead. I was so angry that the owl and its family were gone from our woods that I grabbed the owl from Warren then changed my mind and swore never to play together again. He was the first friend I saw cry when he understood exactly how mortal he was.

The world really started pushing back against words about peace and the waste of war. I was beaten half a dozen times in school. Twice I was sent to the hospital. Dad taught at the college so I could hear a seminar about China and how great they were growing. If I shared that at school there were self appointed football players who enforced their world view by breaking my nose in the locker room. News that the USA topples governments and installs puppets was either denied or accepted as might makes right. Then the children of US slaves followed a non violent King in a movement for freedom that could have made some of our founding fathers proud. I was proud for these Americans. When I said so I was called a nigger lover and sometimes a Jewish cocksucker despite the fact I was neither.

Viet Nam was front and center with mounting body counts at dinner time. And I loved my country so much I tried to tell people that there must be a better way. A house divided against itself will not stand. Love it or leave it shouted back at give peace a chance.
I can't tell you how many friends died or disappeared. Even the shoe factory was gone. They said it went to Taiwan.

Even the love it leave it people were broken. Their house could not stand the loss of their sons. They were betrayed and some blamed the protestors and some knew they were deceived but could never say it loud lest their children would somehow die in vain the moment the truth passed their lips. They were silent and they were the majority.

Free white and 21, I joined the 60's party. Finally a man, I found an occupation to heal people. I was close enough to 3 mile island that I felt the sickening nausea in my head the night before it was announced. America was feeling proud again when Reagan finally won a war. It wasn't the big bomb war but a little one that rhymed with grenade. The CIA had no clue when the USSR downsized but Reagan got the credit by running up ours.

The unmentionable pain faded as the parents died in pain. The Gulf war was being sold to a new crew but with talk radio cheer leaders. I know that in a perpetual war no one will die in vain.
Now I know about imperialism. My country never had colonies like some empires but we hired yes men called the Shaw or el Presidente'. We rarely if ever obeyed our treaties. We were ready to try new weapons, uranium weapons from our used up rods inside our nuclear tea kettles. I cried over the poisons that I know our country is eating and breathing because I love my country.

Commie, pinko, love it or leave it, unpatriotic, traitor, Hitler lover and appeaser, I am still called names like I was in the high school locker room. But I still love my country enough to speak out when we make the mistake of giving our lives to a military machine run by corporations that own the Congress and media.

When 2 million of us fill the streets of our Capitol and we are still invisible to the media we must try harder. When we win elections but lose the count we must try to love our country harder.
When the words freedom zone stands for barbed wire pens we must break out. When we truly love our country we may just learn to love the world and the world us.

I dream that a new Lincoln will speak to this country with an intelligent clarity. I dream that we will all have something to unite us. That we can all stand for a republic to do business as well as a democracy to help our people live and love our land.

I have but one cup of cool water to spill on the beach but if enough of us fill our glasses and march to the shore we may even be able to cool an ocean. Cool the ideologues, cool the defense contractors in their own neighborhoods and cool a religious fever that needs to break before we return to health.

Yes I love my country to the stars and stripes and back. Even when we attack, like a mother who loves a son who has done wrong, I know how much good there is inside.

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 09 Sep 06 - 04:09 PM

Tall oaks from little acorns grow, every bit helps, maybe this thread will help too. It sure can't hurt world peace. Imagine!

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: bobad
Date: 09 Sep 06 - 04:16 PM

At least there is no bickering on it yet - that's a good sign.

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: GUEST, Phoenix
Date: 09 Sep 06 - 05:20 PM

I think we're firmly on track, with the posts we've had so far on this 'sillyass thread' (to quote Catspaw49). Anyone know any celebrities we could bring on board? For verification purposes we would need their photograph holding up a sign saying, "I support the 'Will this thread ever bring world peace' thread" (no digitally re-mastered fakes please). I personally don't think this is too much to ask of them. Then after we've got, say ten 'big hitters' (e.g Mandella, Clooney ( I've allways liked 'Oh Brother Where Art Thou?'), Carthy (Martin and Eliza of course), we'll contact the world press. What do you say? (think 'peace' before answering this).

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Sep 06 - 05:46 PM

Poster Girl for "Will these threads ever bring world peace?" Hell, "Yes" I say!

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: GUEST,Partridge
Date: 10 Sep 06 - 12:39 PM

I'll post to peace

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: GUEST, Phoenix
Date: 10 Sep 06 - 01:11 PM

"Well if "Charity begins at home" - how about bringing some peace to the BS too" (says Emma B above)

Let's leave the trickiest until last, after we've had a bit of practise, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: Mr Red
Date: 11 Sep 06 - 10:51 AM

Nohing will bring world peace - it's like medication and death - we can only hold off the problem long enough to make it a small problem.

But enough threads like this - maybe - as long as the closed minds read them - I am not taking bets on that.

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: GUEST,Flower Power
Date: 12 Sep 06 - 05:00 PM

I'll lend my support to this thread. The world NEEDS it.

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: GUEST, Phoenix
Date: 14 Sep 06 - 02:45 PM

Not a sniff of a celebrity post yet. Not even Harvey Andrews and I know he posts on Mudcat occasionally. Where are you Harvey and how about a verse or two in support of our world peace thread? (We're looking for a patron if you're interested?).

Did you know that the other two 'Will this thread...' threads are competing to be first to 300? Wouldn't it be great to get there first - for peace? Tell your friends.

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: number 6
Date: 14 Sep 06 - 04:21 PM

"will this thread ever bring world peace"

Hell in this forum there is never any "peace" ... therefore only a helpless, foolish optimist would ever think it could be brought forward in a thread in the Mudcat.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: GUEST, Phoenix
Date: 14 Sep 06 - 04:35 PM

"... therefore only a helpless, foolish optimist would ever think it could be brought forward in a thread in the Mudcat"


That's me to a tee number 6!

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: GUEST,Bill from Brighton
Date: 14 Sep 06 - 04:57 PM

I know the folk singer Toni Wood (Ausi now in UK). Should I ask her to post or are you only looking for A-listers (she's very good)?

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: GUEST,Brittany Spears
Date: 14 Sep 06 - 05:29 PM

I just heard about this thread and am going to devote all my future energies to seeing that it does bring about whirled peas. My babies won't eat any other kind.

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: GUEST, Phoenix
Date: 14 Sep 06 - 05:36 PM

Great to have you on board Brittany, whatever you choose to eat. However, can I refer you to my earlier post about celebrity verification?

Guest Bill. Tell Toni to post, all are welcome here (photo not needed).

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: bobad
Date: 14 Sep 06 - 07:29 PM

POST FOR PEACE!

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: bobad
Date: 14 Sep 06 - 08:22 PM

GROPE FOR PEACE!

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: GUEST, Phoenix
Date: 15 Sep 06 - 04:16 PM

As long as it's definitly for peace I suppose bobad.

Subject: RE: BS: Will this thread ever bring world peace?
From: GUEST,Brittany Spears
Date: 15 Sep 06 - 05:09 PM

GUEST, Phoenix,
I have been trying to find a picture of me but there just don't seem to be any. Sorry.