Fox hunting songs - right or wrong!!!!

Subject: RE: Fox hunting songs - right or wrong!!!!
From: GUEST,Passing Stranger
Date: 22 Feb 01 - 01:04 PM

I wonder how many of those who condemn hunting, fishing and meat eating keep a cat or cats?

Ever heard of a veggie cat? They do more damage to wildlife than all the hunts/hunters/fisherman in the world put together.

If a "cute and cuddly animal lover" owns a moggie, they are hypocrites pure and simple.

Cats are by nature carnivorous (ie they eat meat (and fur and bones and feathers))

Homo sapiens is by nature omnivorous, and has evolved from hunter/gatherers.

Get real, veggies, sabs and antis - especially the violent or proselytising variety. You live the way you want to, and let others do the same.

Just pretend that we're cats!

Subject: RE: Fox hunting songs - right or wrong!!!!
From: GUEST,Mark. West Sussex U.K.
Date: 22 Feb 01 - 08:13 PM

People hunted. People wrote songs. Not singing the song won't change the past. People still hunt foxes today ( although most of them, even fifty years ago would not have been allowed near a hunt because they would not be sociially acceptable enough) Kennelmasters still kill perfectly healthy hounds at about six years old because they've lost that youthful vigour. Each year over thirty thousand new born bitches are crushed under the Kennelman's heel because, as females, they are not suitable for pack hunting. The problem is, does a song about Hunting two centuries ago give tacet support to contemporary hunters? I think it comes down to irony. I heard a man last year sing "John Peel" with a tone of scathing contempt. Familiar words and tune but with a bit of genius in the delivery it became one of the best anti-hunting songs I have heard.

Subject: RE: Fox hunting songs - right or wrong!!!!
From: wes.w
Date: 23 Feb 01 - 09:16 AM

Fox Hunting is a living tradition still, which is more than can be said for English folk song. Personally, I'd rather just shoot foxes, but it isn't that practical.
Foxes aren't nice furry creatures, they are vicious blood lusting killers (just like the hunt?). I've come down some mornings to find pens of ducks and chickens mauled, often only half alive, with only the odd one taken for food.
Perhaps some of you would understand more if you didn't buy everything prepacked in supermarkets. Own up now; who expects someone else to kill their meat for them, and then pretends they don't know anything about it?
Yours very sadly ... wes

Subject: RE: Fox hunting songs - right or wrong!!!!
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 23 Feb 01 - 10:35 AM

The objection is not to killing, which is pretty much an unavoidable part of life, but to killing for pleasure which is quite another matter.  Some predators do it, of course, but we humans, who set ourselves up as in some way separate from, and superior to, the rest of the animal world really have no excuse for indulging in such things.

Malcolm