BS: Californians elect Dead Democrat

Subject: RE: BS: Californians elect Dead Democrat
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 07 Nov 10 - 05:48 AM

Fine thanks mate, although,as a result of a cold and a slight chest infection, my knee replacement op has been postponed for the third time.

I'd make a formal complaint, but I don't think I'd have a leg to stand on.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Californians elect Dead Democrat
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Nov 10 - 11:09 AM

I might be wrong, Don, but I think what really bothers Doug about Obama is not that he's Black (well, half Black)....but that he's a Democrat! ;-) If it was a White guy in Obama's place...a White guy who spoke exactly as Obama speaks and acted exactly as Obama acts, then I think Doug would feel the same way about that guy as he does about Obama. He would consider him "arrogant". Doug is probably incapable of assessing ANY Democrat in an unbiased way.

But you wouldn't have an opportunity then to tar Doug with the implied label of "racist", would you? ;-) And that wouldn't be nearly as much fun, would it? I mean, hey, just take that knife, stick it in, and twist it, right? How convenient. You couldn't do that if Obama was just a regular White man. You could if he was a woman, though. Or a Native American. Or a Jew. Then the same opportunity would be there for putting DougR into a neat little damnation jar of perceived and politically unacceptable prejudice.

I don't consider Obama arrogant, by the way. I like him. He seems very reasonable to me. I've never seen a more reasonable or intelligent or well spoken man as president of the USA, and I don't give a hoot WHAT colour he is, because what difference could it possibly make?

I do disagree with some of his policy decisions, but that's another matter. When it comes to the man himself, I like him.

Subject: RE: BS: Californians elect Dead Democrat
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 06:33 AM

Conversely LH, if racism were really a thing of the past among the redneck fraternity, one wouldn't have to query their motives.

But it isn't, and their behaviour, attitudes and language makes that very clear.

Since Obama shows no sign of arrogance to the impartial outsider, then the term "arrogant", when applied by said rednecks, comes over as a pretty obvious euphemism for what they really would like to call him (which is why I used the word "uppity").

Don T

Subject: RE: BS: Californians elect Dead Democrat
From: Greg F.
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 12:20 PM

...those southerners... at that time probably believed that Blacks were "basically 'inferior' ...

What "time" is that you're referring to, LH? Last week?

Subject: RE: BS: Californians elect Dead Democrat
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 12:49 PM

In some cases, yes. But not in all cases.

Subject: RE: BS: Californians elect Dead Democrat
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 12:52 PM

On electing dead people:

As a guest (who was probably Dick Greenhaus) pointed out above, this isn't the first time this has happened.

In 2000, Gov. Mel Carnahan of Missouri, a Democrat, was running for US Senate against John Ashcroft, the incumbent Republican. Carnahan was killed in a plane crash 2 weeks before the election. Apparently there was no legal way Carnahan could be replaced on the ballot at that point.

On Carnahan's death, Lt. Gov. Roger Wilson succeeded him as Governor. Wilson announced that if Carnahan won, he would appoint Jean Carnahan, Mel's widow, as Senator, and that's what happened.

It seems like a good solution to me.

In 2002, US Sen. Paul Wellstone of Minnesota, a Democrat, was running for reelection against Republican Norm Coleman, who was then mayor of St. Paul. (Interestingly, George W. Bush and Karl Rove had persuaded Coleman to abandon his plan to run for Governor and run for the Senate instead.) Wellstone and his wife were killed in a plane crash 11 days before the election. Minnesota law enabled former Vice President Walter Mondale to be placed on the ballot to replace Wellstone (but not on absentee ballots which had already been mailed out). I think it was the state central committee of the Democratic Party that selected Mondale. Mondale narrowly lost to Coleman.

There are some conspiracy theorists who think both Carnahan and Wellstone were murdered, and that the conspirators learned a couple of lessons from the experience: (1) wait until it's closer to the election, and (2) get the wife, too.

But I wouldn't go that far.