Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Nov 25 - 06:02 AM

btw, quoting the Constitution is not a seditious crime punishable by DEATH.
Without ignorant, violent, murderous psychopaths, Trump would be powerless. This shows the fragility of an autocrat.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Lighter
Date: 21 Nov 25 - 12:47 PM

BTW, sedition in the U.S. has never been legally "punishable by death."

Oath Keepers and Proud Boys got long sentences for seditious conspiracy on 1/6, but the self-described "Nation's Chief Law-Enforcement Officer" pardoned them.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: The Sandman
Date: 21 Nov 25 - 12:57 PM

seditous president should be put in the stocks and have crap thown at him

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Helen
Date: 21 Nov 25 - 01:19 PM

I check the RealClear Polling compilation of Trump: Favorable/Unfavorable a number of other poll results fairly regularly.

His unfavourability has been rising since his re-election this year and has spiked in the last couple of days. Look at the graph just below the latest set of figures at the top of the page. It makes me laugh that Fox News has the highest unfavourability rating in the latest figures.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 23 Nov 25 - 04:43 PM

Elon Musk launches new AI-generated site Grokipedia to rival 'left-biased' Wikipedia

hmmmmm

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Helen
Date: 23 Nov 25 - 05:36 PM

Some good news:

DOGE no longer exists, White House says, after Musk departure

"In short: The Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) "doesn't exist", a US government spokesperson says,

"The department, established by Donald Trump and once headed up by Elon Musk, promised to slash billions from the US government but has quietly faded into the background in recent months.

"What's next? Many of those involved in DOGE have moved into other roles within the US government."

...

"Trump administration quietly drops DOGE initiatives

"DOGE claimed to have slashed tens of billions of dollars in expenditures, but it was impossible for outside financial experts to verify that because the unit did not provide detailed public accounting of its work.

"President Trump was given a clear mandate to reduce waste, fraud and abuse across the federal government, and he continues to actively deliver on that commitment," said White House spokesperson Liz Huston in an email to Reuters.

"Trump administration officials have not openly said that DOGE no longer exists, even after Mr Musk's public feud with Mr Trump in May. Mr Musk has since left Washington.

"Mr Trump and his team have nevertheless signalled its demise in public since this summer, even though the US president signed an executive order earlier in his term decreeing that DOGE would last through July 2026."

...

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Nov 25 - 08:51 PM

The damage has been done, the data hoovered up and spread around, contaminated, mined, and who knows what else. The federal government was decimated or worse. The American people demoralized.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Nov 25 - 06:03 AM

MAGA Nation on X, and many Truth Social members are bots or agents outside the USA. It would stand to reason that some of these may be responsible for death threats against the Trump selected enemies.
X claims they are in the process of blocking foreign agents.

The kind of people who enjoy making death threats are addicted to the delusion of power, but are appreciated by Donald.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Nov 25 - 11:14 AM

With a scientologist like RFK in charge of scientific vaccines for hemorrhagic fevers, we'd better hope to dodge microscopic bullets.
Worse yet would be a fungal pandemic since we have few remedies compared to viral or bacterial infections.

RFK reminds me of a 2016 TV series 'Braindead' that involved brainworms that caused Congressmen to become radically conservative.


It was supposed to run for 4 years but was suddenly canceled.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Nov 25 - 01:38 PM

US judge throws out criminal cases against James Comey and Letitia James
Judge says interim US attorney for eastern district of Virginia had ‘no lawful authority’ to indict former FBI director and New York attorney general

A federal judge threw out the criminal cases against James Comey and Letitia James on Monday, concluding that the prosecutor handling the case was unlawfully appointed.

Lindsey Halligan, who Trump named the interim US attorney for the eastern district of Virginia in September, had “no lawful authority to present the indictment” against the former FBI director and New York attorney general, Judge Cameron McGowan Currie, wrote in her opinion.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Nov 25 - 02:54 PM

brainworm song
A lyrical premise for the Brainworm plot...

I heard the Supreme Court is not supporting Trump's push to occupy cities in the US with the military.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Nov 25 - 07:08 AM

Poor miserable Trump does not know how to be a lame duck and demands his Congress support illegal orders and asks his minions to lynch an American hero astronaut. Leading the Republican House members who will not run again is Taylor Green. More will follow. He has to align himself with the mayor of NYC, hoping to steal his affordability thunder.

Poor miserable Trump tries to pull a Putin but his hitmen are unreliable and splintered. When he calls everyone a traitor, including the most strident MAGAnaunts, loyalty fades.

His venture into painful obscurity will not resemble Joseph McCarthy; instead, he will die surrounded by everything gilded in gold like the one-trick pony that he is.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Aethelric
Date: 26 Nov 25 - 11:53 AM

Trump says "our Country is RESPECTED AGAIN all over the World, respected like never before."

The USA is respected the way you'd respect a naughty nine year old pointing a machine gun at you.   

If it were not for the fear of reprisals, the USA would be a laughing stock.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Nov 25 - 01:55 PM

The feeble engines of despotism will be choked into seizure by the sugar of non-violence, sacrifice, and courage.

For the next three years, we will live one day at a time, taking back Constitutional authority and Justice.

Some souls need to be tried before a jury of their peers because there is no one above the law in America. For some, the time will be long, and for others, it shall be short.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Helen
Date: 26 Nov 25 - 02:21 PM

I posted this in another thread but it relates to this topic.

"...take heart in seeing the people who are standing up for what they believe is right. My suggestion is to watch some sheepdog trials videos and see how a well-coordinated piece of group action can bring a rowdy mob under control - quietly, cleverly and with determination and skill."

I have watched Stephen Colbert's interview of Senator Elizabeth Warren this week and Senator Mark Kelly and others recently. They are strong, determined people who will do everything in their power to try to fix the situation in the US and they will work with others to achieve that goal.

When I was a union representative, working on behalf of the rights of other workers, I used the term "sheepdogging" when a group of us would work together, quietly, determinedly, strategically, dare I say doggedly, to achieve the best outcomes. Group action can be very powerful and people at all levels can work together to achieve the goals.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Nov 25 - 07:12 PM

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There once was a union maid, she never was afraid
Of goons and ginks and company finks and the deputy sheriffs who made the raid.
She went to the union hall when a meeting it was called,
And when the Legion boys come 'round
She always stood her ground.

Oh, you can't scare me, I'm sticking to the union,
I'm sticking to the union, I'm sticking to the union.
Oh, you can't scare me, I'm sticking to the union,
I'm sticking to the union 'til the day I die.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Hrothgar
Date: 26 Nov 25 - 09:06 PM

Will Leavitt's sister-in-law be pardoned?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Helen
Date: 26 Nov 25 - 11:36 PM

Yep, that's me Donuel! :-D

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: pattyClink
Date: 27 Nov 25 - 10:39 AM

"Sheepdogging" can also mean working hard to round up stray voters with promises of real reform, then guiding them gently into the corral to vote for the same old corrupt party hacks, well occasionally a handsomer or more well-spoken or younger one. I hope that's not where all this courageous-looking leadership winds up.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Helen
Date: 27 Nov 25 - 04:28 PM

Yes, you are right, pattyClink, but it's all in the intention, I guess. At present there is a strong intention to bring US history onto a more healthy democratic future, so my vote goes for the people with good intentions.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Aethelric
Date: 28 Nov 25 - 01:43 PM

There are around 180,000 Afghan refugees in the US, and one seems to have gone rogue. That is 0.0006% . So Trump is attacking them all.

There are around 1000 billionaires in the US and one (Epstein) has been proven to be a paedophile. Thats 0.1% (Maybe more soon). Will Trump have a go at them next?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Nov 25 - 02:10 PM

Yes, the way Trump used one mentally disturbed man's act to blame everyone who has arrived from Afghanistan is typical of the idiot. Not called for, but who will stop him?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Aethelric
Date: 28 Nov 25 - 03:18 PM

I don't know enough about American history to know if this abuse of power has happened before. But I think something needs to be done to stop it happening again. There could be worse in the future.
The UK system has lots of problems, but when our moron (Liz Truss) became prime minister she only lasted 44 days.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 29 Nov 25 - 07:15 AM

Am I the only person in the world that spotted that the turnip used thanksgiving day to announce his draconian measures? Surely the day has not lost all of its symbolic meaning.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Nov 25 - 07:27 AM

European history includes how the Nazis exacted retribution for a fallen Nazi by executing hundreds of Italians. Slavic country citizens were executed by the thousands. Eventually, it became millions of industrial executions. At an astronomical financial cost, Trump is just beginning to murder or jail people outside the US to life in prison.

Words are the mechanism of control, but so is retribution.
Orwell demonstrated how to assign villain and hero status. Dictators practice it.

Trump wants to provoke violence by putting troops on the streets, hoping something will happen to justify military 'justice'.

You might say I'm being too harsh, and Trump is being reserved, fair, and balanced since his executions are mostly in international waters.

For total dictatorship, the right is moving faster than they should for sustainability. This is a weakness for fascist strategy.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Dec 25 - 06:04 AM

Nazi Admiral Dönitz did not honor the law of the sea "save all survivors". Neither does Hegseth.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Dec 25 - 11:00 AM

Former US Secy of Labor Robert Reich sends out some good stuff. Here he shared some good journalism in action, an opinion from Edward R. Murrow about McCarthy (who pales in his horribleness compared to Trump and his "cabinet").

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Dec 25 - 07:36 PM

With about 70 posts left on this thread before we need to start another, it's time to consider what scandal to append to the "Convicted felon US 47 Pres" name on the thread. What's hot these days? Hegseth bombing survivors of the illegal bombing of ships in the Gulf of Mexico or Caribbean? The obnoxious Ballroom? His continuing mental deterioration? Something else?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Helen
Date: 01 Dec 25 - 08:15 PM

SRS, where do we start?

Hubby sent me an image of Trump, Vance & Hegseth, all scowling, standing next to each other. The tagline was "perineum" which I had to look up. It's an anatomical term for the area adjacent to the anus. I sent Hubby a reply that "perinea" refers to more than one, because I couldn't see that any one of them was worse than the other.

Sorry! That's not appropriate for this civilised forum! :-D

Actually none of my other initial ideas are any more polite. The next word to come to my mind was $hit$h0w.

I'll shut up now.

Subject: RE: Of ICE and Men
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Dec 25 - 06:35 AM

It is clearly understood that the President and his minions are monsters. Words have done their job. What matters now is like our final judgment; It's not about what you thought, it's about what you did.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Helen
Date: 02 Dec 25 - 01:10 PM

I watched a recent Late Show with Stephen Colbert where a short clip showed Miss Piggy and her famous karate chop responding to Trump calling a female journalist "Piggy". Maybe "Miss Piggy for President" could be part of the title of the next Trump thread.

Just joking! LOL

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Dec 25 - 01:46 PM

She's a much better role model than any of the human participants in that government.

Too many people and institutions treat Trump unlike they would any other political figure. They normalize his bad behavior. Until that is remedied, a solution may evade us.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Helen
Date: 02 Dec 25 - 02:27 PM

Yes! Miss Piggy for President! I always admired her strength and determination.

I have another idea: "Trump's epic fails", e.g no peace prize, demolished East Wing, unprovoked and unlawful attacks on Venezuelan boats, cutting funds to aid organisations, increasing cost of living and medical costs, losing ground on polls (even Fox News polls - who could have predicted that?!), landslide Democrat victories in 2025 elections...I could go on and on.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Raggytash
Date: 02 Dec 25 - 04:37 PM

Really! A self centred narcistic individual with little, or no talent, a grossly inflated opinion of their own worth?

I think you may have that already.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 02 Dec 25 - 06:06 PM

There are a few of those, Raggy :-D

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Dec 25 - 08:07 AM

Peter Thiel is a key investor in Nucleus Genomics, which screens IVF blastocysts for genetic diseases, height, intelligence, and other factors, which allows prospective parents to pick and choose specific traits for their babies. Some institutions say this process is moving too fast.

What is certain is that the economics, thirty thousand dollars per IVF screening of 40 fertilized eggs, will favor the wealthy.
Being voluntary distinguishes this from the early attempts of ignorant eugenics.

The future is brave and has more certainty for the wealthy.

https://mynucleus.com/

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Dec 25 - 07:32 AM

Will the double-tap scandal lead to murder or war crime indictments?
I doubt it.
The military may have rules of engagement, but enforcement is as rare as the Nuremberg trials.
When we would bomb marriage parties supposedly by mistake, no one was ever held accountable. When we bombed non military targets, burn orders were simply made to cover up. Some were so huge like Dresden, it was too big to hide. But still accountability was lost. It has been established that innocent civilians are merely collateral damage.

The Geneva Convention is but a wishful humane decoration.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Dec 25 - 04:41 PM

There is supposedly a breakthrough in the investigation of who set explosive devices at both the Democratic and the Republican headquarters in D.C. the night before the Biden inauguration. The night before Trump sent his followers to take over the US Capitol. With the current administration skewing every investigation they can, who knows what the results will be.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Dec 25 - 07:03 AM

Attention all Americans, due to the monsters in charge:

If you travel you should learn to speak Canadian

If you need a different passport call Joey.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Dec 25 - 07:29 AM

Hegseth said he stepped away prior to the double-tap on survivors.
This sounds likely since he often steps away to the washroom to possibly have a little drinky-poo.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Helen
Date: 07 Dec 25 - 12:26 AM

I saw some commentary on this on one of the episodes of The Late Show with Stephen Colbert this week.

Republicans just won an election in Tennessee but it's still bad news for Trump

[Note: The basic message in the article is that the election in Tennessee should have been favouring red more but the margin was quite slim.]

"When Mark Green announced his retirement from politics, it seemed to his Republican colleagues that refilling the seat would be an easy feat.

"Tennessee, and its newly vacant 7th congressional district, were firmly red strongholds.

"In the 2024 presidential election, Donald Trump won the district by 22 points.

"The last time Green went to an election, almost 60 per cent of voters cast their ballots for him.

"Indeed, a Democrat had not been elected to represent the 7th district in more than 40 years.

"So when Matt Van Epps, a former commissioner of the Tennessee Department of General Services, was chosen as the Republican candidate for the ensuing by-election, he seemed a shoo-in.

"The race did not quite pan out that way.

Van Epps did win when Tennessee went to the polls on Tuesday, but with a margin of just nine points, it did not come easy."

...

"The outcome cast a gloomy outlook for Republicans going into the 2026 mid-terms.

"Pundits say the party will need to defend more vulnerable seats than usual if they are to have any hope of keeping the House majority.

"'The danger signs are there, and we shouldn't have had to spend that kind of money to hold that kind of seat,' said Jason Roe, a national Republican strategist working on several of next year's battleground races.

"'The Democratic enthusiasm is dramatically higher than Republican enthusiasm.'

Cruz said his party had to 'set out the alarm bells' because next year was 'going to be a turnout election and the left will show up'."


So, that is a bit of good news. The Republicans will have to pull out all the stops at the mid-terms in case they lose their slim majority in the House of Representatives.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Helen
Date: 07 Dec 25 - 12:28 AM

And in other good news, Pete Hegseth has been under investigation and is now trying to put his own spin on a very unfavourable outcome. Good luck with that.

I watched some excellent commentary about that today on PBS Washington Week With The Atlantic.