Subject: RE: Origin: Dick Darby the Cobbler From: MartinRyan Date: 02 Dec 14 - 11:53 AM Refresh. |
Subject: RE: Origin: Dick Darby the Cobbler From: Jim Carroll Date: 02 Dec 14 - 01:13 PM My mother's a bawdy-house keeper, My father makes illicit gin, My sister gives out for the soldiers, By Christ, how the money rolls in The don't make them like that anymore Jim Carroll |
Subject: RE: Origin: Dick Darby the Cobbler From: gnu Date: 02 Dec 14 - 04:55 PM Never heard that verse, Jim. Thanks. Who wrote it? |
Subject: RE: Origin: Dick Darby the Cobbler From: GUEST,Vin2 Date: 03 Dec 14 - 04:35 AM Wow ! thanks for the responses folks. |
Subject: RE: Origin: Dick Darby the Cobbler From: MGM·Lion Date: 03 Dec 14 - 04:49 AM It's in DT under title "My God How The Money Rolls In". Good version, containing several alternative lines &c. ≈M≈ "[This is a compilation from several sources. Alternate words in brackets.]" it sez at the top. |
Subject: RE: Origin: Dick Darby the Cobbler From: GUEST,fuligorubin Date: 03 Dec 14 - 05:55 AM I have heard Tommy Maken perform this song back in the 60s, and I always thought he sang "served me time on ould calf" ie the leather. |
Subject: RE: Origin: Dick Darby the Cobbler From: MGM·Lion Date: 03 Dec 14 - 06:10 AM No -- just played Tommy Makem on youtube yet again. Distinctly sings "Ould Camp". ≈M≈ |
Subject: RE: Origin: Dick Darby the Cobbler From: MGM·Lion Date: 14 Dec 14 - 05:59 AM More on a semantic point rehearsed above. There is a village in NSW called Lapstone. According to Wikipedia, "It has been suggested that Lapstone was named by early explorers who found smooth stones in the area which reminded them of the lapstones used by cobblers." ≈M≈ |
Subject: RE: Origin: Dick Darby the Cobbler From: GUEST,Vin2 Date: 14 Dec 14 - 02:02 PM Brilliant MGM. Thanks, Vin |
Subject: RE: Origin: Dick Darby the Cobbler From: GUEST,Bob Coltman Date: 14 Dec 14 - 07:23 PM Sorry I can't give chapter and verse on this version I've been singing for years. I only have a note that says it came from New York (probably the state, not the city). The tune's nothing like Tommy Makem's. The nature of his crime, verse 1, line 3, I'll match against any. JACK GERMAN THE COBBLER My name is Jack German the cobbler, I've serv-ed me time out in Kent, Some called me an old fornicator Before I had time to repent. CHO With me twing, ing, ing, ing, ing, ing yaddy, Me twing, ing, ing, ing, ing, ing ay, With a too, boo, boo, too, boo, boo, baddy, Sing fol de dol, dol de dol day. For seven long years I was roving, The happiest days of me life, And many's misfortune I had in, I got myself hitched to a wife. My wife she was humpty and dumpty, Oh Lord, she was ugly and black, And when I came in to my dinner, She gave me the devil's gin-whack! But now all me troubles are ended, Since I put an end to her life, I gave her three dips in the river, And kindly I bade her goodnight. |
Subject: RE: Origin: Dick Darby the Cobbler From: MGM·Lion Date: 15 Dec 14 - 12:35 AM Re the tune [the Tommy Makem one] -- as well as not a million miles, as already remarked, to My Bonny, surely a close relative of the Botany Bay family. ≈M≈ |
Subject: RE: Origin: Dick Darby the Cobbler From: PHJim Date: 15 Dec 14 - 12:48 AM In the early nineties I played in a group called The Piper's Hut. The group leader sang this song and his chorus went: With me intwing of an ingthing of an iday With me intwing of an ingthing iday With me roo boo boo roo boo boo randy And me lap stone keeps beating away About five years ago I was in the band for a show called Fowke Tales about Canadian folksong collector Edith Fowke. This song was sung by one of the actors and his chorus went: With me intwing of an ingthing of an iday With me intwing of an ingthing of an iday With me roo boo boo roo boo boo randy And me lab stone keeps beating away -making the second line a little bit irregular. I like both versions, but find myself doing the first version. |
Subject: RE: Origin: Dick Darby the Cobbler From: MGM·Lion Date: 15 Dec 14 - 02:27 PM BTW, nobody seems to have made the point that it would not be the lapstone that went "beating away", but the hammer on the lapstone. ≈M≈ |
Subject: RE: Origin: Dick Darby the Cobbler From: GUEST,Dave Hunt Date: 16 Dec 14 - 12:27 AM If you have access to the film made by Kennedy in the 1950s,of the singers at Blaxhall Ship (Suffolk) there is a splendid version sung by Wickets Richardson (who was always 'Chairman'and called for order by banging a crib board on the table)And he does the actions too. The continuity in the fim is haphazard,e.g. a shot of Cyril Poacher singing...pan to audience and there's Cyril ! back to Cyril singing in totally different clothes...wonderful!Lots of good stuff including some great step dancing |
Subject: RE: Origin: Dick Darby the Cobbler From: GUEST,Mrr Date: 16 Dec 14 - 10:23 PM Wow - all this is cool, but I must be the only person who really couldn't stand this song and would actually leap up and lift the needle to skip it on our clancy brothers records... but it's still fascinating to read all this cool stuff. Sure and don't using the name Darby make it sound Irish now... |
Subject: RE: Origin: Dick Darby the Cobbler From: gnu Date: 17 Dec 14 - 12:41 PM "but I must be the only person who really couldn't stand this song" Quite possibly. >;-) |
Subject: RE: Origin: Dick Darby the Cobbler From: GUEST,Wellsy Date: 14 Sep 18 - 10:28 AM That chorus kills it for me. Luckily, there's not much of worth to kill. My apologies to all fans of the song ( both of you) |
Subject: RE: Origin: Dick Darby the Cobbler From: Tradsinger Date: 14 Sep 18 - 04:58 PM Here's what glostrad has to say on the song: Many will be familiar with the song “Dick Darby, the Cobbler” as sung by Tommy Makem, but this is one version of many. An early broadside “Dick Darling, the Cobbler” is half sung, half spoken. In the song, the eponymous cobbler is clearly Irish, and an “old fornicator”. The story then details how he beat up a customer who would not pay him and then goes on to complain about his devil of a wife and how she eventually fell in a river. Finally, he appeals for a new young wife. Collected versions have shown a remarkable variety and our Dick Darling/Darby has become Fagin, Kibosh, Dick German or Jed Hobson and in this variety of forms it has been found all over the English-speaking world. There is a distant relation to this song, in lyrics anyway, to the bawdy “My God, how the money rolls in.” Harry Brazil’s version (I started my life as a cobbler) has changed a lot from broadside days, but still contains the appeal for a new wife and has an added feature of adding a critique of the government. Tradsinger |
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