Concertina techniques for Harmonica

Subject: Concertina techniques for Harmonica
From: GUEST,The Sandman
Date: 25 Mar 25 - 05:45 AM

I use some techniques on concertina which include turning quavers in to semi quavers, so if one had for example two dotted crotchets in jig time, i might play it ornamented same notes instead of one long note, i might play two quick semis and two quavers, ditty dum dum, or dum ditty dum or even dum dum ditty, I am assuming this would be done with the tongue as one might also do with a recorder or whistle,.
Steve Shaw is an expert harmonica player I would appreciate his opinion, I know that this is something Brendan Power briefly mentions in his tutor book

Subject: RE: Concertina techniques for Harmonica
From: GUEST,The Sandman
Date: 25 Mar 25 - 05:48 AM

An example of where i might do this in a tune might be Morrisons Jig first two bars

Subject: RE: Concertina techniques for Harmonica
From: GUEST,The Sandman
Date: 25 Mar 25 - 06:02 AM

I used to know a guy who played a chromatic, who used the slide to ornament

Subject: RE: Concertina techniques for Harmonica
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 25 Mar 25 - 07:15 AM

Steve only goes to Morrisons for the Mucho Mas athough he may enjoy the jig while he is at it :-D

Subject: RE: Concertina techniques for Harmonica
From: GUEST,Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Mar 25 - 05:12 PM

Haha! Nice connection, Dave!

I don't really play much Irish out and about these days, Dick, because my deteriorating hearing in sessions leaves me all at sea, but I still can play the chunes! I'm playing (and "singing") in a grand shanty group these days, after they sadly lost their accordion player to cancer last year. Even with dodgy hearing, you can't help hearing what's going on when they're in full flow! I play mostly tremolo harmonicas with them, a new enterprise for me (it's more in keeping with the sound they had before). Different muscle memory required! The main ornamentation these days is little sideways cuts that I can also make sound like a sort of fake roll if I'm on form. I know the move you're talking about, a bit reminiscent of what the great Tommy Peoples used to do. It's all good.

I know it's slightly off-topic, but a really good tremolo man to listen to is Noel Battle. In fact, I bought my trems from his best mate up in Mullingar, Dave Hynes!

Subject: RE: Concertina techniques for Harmonica
From: GUEST,The Sandman
Date: 26 Mar 25 - 05:34 AM

This is going to sound a little odd, but on dotted crotchets in jig time.
i use 3 different techniques or rhythyms for making 3 quaver into 2 semi quaver and a quaver, titty tum tum, tum titty tum, and tum tum titty, the titty is the sound of the semis, on the concertina i do the titty with crossed fingers, on the harmonica, i suppose with the tongue,

Subject: RE: Concertina techniques for Harmonica
From: GUEST,The Sandman
Date: 26 Mar 25 - 05:54 AM

The KESH is a useful example