trivia

Subject: trivia
From:
Date: 17 Apr 99 - 02:52 AM

Does anyone know what folk song features the lyrics "people don't believe me...but I can feel the way I feel and still ride the wagon"?? Please answer.

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Apr 99 - 03:11 AM

Scotch and Soda, Kingston Trio.
Next question?
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Apr 99 - 03:19 AM

Scotch and Soda
  
  Artists: The Kingston Trio—from their 1958 debut  LP "The Kingston Trio"
  —also peaked as a single at #81 on Billboard in 1962.
  Words and Music by Trio member Dave Guard
  
  
                                          Fmaj7    = xx3210
  Fmaj7            Fm6/maj7               Fm6/maj7 = xx0110
  Scotch and soda, mud in your eye
  C               A
  Baby do I feel high 
            D7           E7               D7 = x00212 or x5453x
  Oh me oh my do I feel high
  
  
  Fmaj7         Fm6/maj7
  Dry martini, jigger of gin
  C                       A
  Oh what a spell you've got me in 
      D7            E7
  Oh my, do I feel high
  
  
  F                                  C        Dm7  G7    C
  People won't believe me, they'll think that I'm just braggin'
      D7
  But I could feel the way I do
        G7           Dm7 G7
  And still be on the wagon.
  
  
  Fmaj7         Fm6/maj7             C               A7
  All I need is one of your smiles, sunshine of your eye
           D7    G7      C             E7       A7
  Oh me oh my do I feel higher than a kite can fly
  D7              G7           C   -  E7
  Give me lovin', baby, I feel high.
  
  
       F                                 C        Dm7  G7    C
  Oh, People won't believe me, they'll think that I'm just braggin'
      D7
  But I could feel the way I do
        G7           Dm7 G7
  And still be on the wagon.
  
  
  Fmaj7         Fm6/maj7             C               A7
  All I need is one of your smiles, sunshine of your eyes
           D7    G7      C             E7       A7
  Oh me oh my do I feel higher than a kite can fly
  D7              G7       (*)               C - Fm - C - Bb6 - C6
  Give me lovin', baby I  feel high.
  
  
  (*) Stretch a D on the 2nd string
  
  Bb6 (B flat 6th) is 224444 (indicating frets from low  to high strings) and C6 is 335555.  

  There's also a nice intro that goes something like this..  

  e--------2-2-----2-2-----1-1-1--|
  b--------2-2-----2-2-----1-1-1--|
  g--------2-2-----2-2-----1-1-1--|  (repeat)
  D--------2-2-----4-4-----1-1-1--|
  A------0------------------------|
  E----0-------0-2-----2-4--------|
  
  
  Transcribed by Ronald E. Hontz  

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Night Owl
Date: 17 Apr 99 - 03:45 AM

COOOOL!!!!! Guess the dishes won't get done tomorrow...taking a guitar lesson!

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 17 Apr 99 - 10:57 AM

"Trivia eh"? hoo boy, love it. Ok, here's one:

Who was John Phillips' TV star daughter named after?

Canadian Gordon Lightfoot was "discovered" when 2 big name American acts each recorded one of his songs at about the same time. What were the songs? Who were the acts?

Can't stop now.

What was Bob Dylan's pseudonym, on a Folkways(subsidiary) album?

Pete, Peggy, and Mike Seeger are well known. Two of their siblings also recorded in the 50s. Name them.

The Ovation Company's first guitar went to a popular folk and blues singer. Who 'dat?

OK I'll get lost now.

Subject: RE: trivia
From: John Hindsill
Date: 17 Apr 99 - 11:06 AM

Marty Robbins and Ian & Sylvia would be my Gordon Lightfoot guess.

Subject: RE: trivia
From: bbelle
Date: 17 Apr 99 - 11:18 AM

I think the Gordon Lightfoot is Ian & Sylvia and PP&M for "That's What You Get For Lovin' Me."

Now ... what was the nickname for PP&M during the '60's?

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 17 Apr 99 - 01:22 PM

PP and M did "thats what.... Marty Robbins did "Ribbon of Darkness". Don't know their nickname.

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Apr 99 - 01:39 PM

Rick, if I were to say, "be sure to wear some flowers in your hair," would that be an appropriate hint for the one about John Phillips' TV star daughter?
Were Lightfoot and the two American acts all managed by Milt Okun?
Is it appropriate to call Ian and Sylvia an "American" act?
Was "Early Morning Rain" the other song? I think I'd call it the song.
-Joe offer-

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Apr 99 - 01:52 PM

Or was the connection to Lightfoot through Albert Grossman, who was tied to PP&M and Bob Dylan? Dylan didn't record a Lightfoot song, did he?
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 17 Apr 99 - 02:09 PM

Zeroin' in Joe. "Flowers.." is keereect! As far as actual AM. "hit" recordings, The first two were "Ribbon.." by Marty Robbins, and "That's What..." by PP&M. But here's one I don't have an answer to. Did Ian and Sylvia have an actual "hit"? Believe Grossman managed Lightfoot, PP&M and Dylan. The Marty Robbins connection came from Lightfoot friend and country/pop singer George Hamilton the fourth (Abilene, and A Rose and a Baby Ruth) I'm told that a lot of country singers were trying to jump on the folk bandwagon, so they were lookin at folkie writers. The ones who did, had a lot of hits, like "Gotta Travel On" by Billy Grammer, "500 Miles" by Bobby Bare, "Little Brown Shack" (outhouse) by Billy Edd Wheeler, and of course Johnny Cash with some Dylan songs.

Still some more unanswered questions "cats". Post a few, as well.

Subject: RE: trivia
From: John Hindsill
Date: 17 Apr 99 - 02:50 PM

I was thinking of Ribbon of Darkness and Early Morning Rain with my answers. Don't know it EMR was a hit-hit for Ian &Sylvia, but they named a whole album after it.

Funny thing, Marty Robbins had a really big country hit with Ribbon, but no country music station in southern California would play the original Lightfoot recording; bet it was that way elsewhere also.

Subject: RE: trivia
From: bbelle
Date: 17 Apr 99 - 03:18 PM

I stand corrected on referring Ian & Sylvia as an American act. Don't know why I did that; have never even thought of them as such. PP&M nickname: "Mitch, Skitch, and the Bitch."

Subject: RE: trivia
From: catspaw49
Date: 17 Apr 99 - 05:02 PM

Hey...just saw this and already I'm confused as to what's been or not been answered.....Seems no one (typically) has much interest in Ovation so I'll take a shot...Wish I had their damn "History of" type book...I've passed it up several times...somebody will eventually have it REAL cheap (I mean in the guitar world, it's a short history).

Thinking back, they went after a lot of artists like Charlie Byrd (jazz) and I think it was '69 or '70 when Marcel Dadi came onboard...doesn't fit either. The first Big Star type was of course Glen Campbell and a lot of others came along in the early '70's. My best guess, 'cause I can't remember them all, that would fit your description would be Josh White.

Gotta go cook supper...back later.

catspaw

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 17 Apr 99 - 05:14 PM

Well, that's one more correct answer...Josh White is spot on. Congrats "Paw".

"moon", never heard that one. Ouch!

Subject: RE: trivia
From: bbelle
Date: 17 Apr 99 - 09:07 PM

Rick ... not meant to be an "ouch," just a bit of trivia. PP&M continue to be one of my all-time favorite folk groups and I still sing a lot of "their" music. moonchild

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Will Bakker
Date: 18 Apr 99 - 03:34 AM

Ian & Sylvia's hit was "you were on my mind". It was a hit by Crispian St. Peters.

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Mark Roffe
Date: 18 Apr 99 - 12:45 PM

From a good source (old Dylan post from yourself, Rick Fielding), Bob Dylan was "Blind Boy Grunt" on a Folkways album.
OK, so we've got Scott Mackenzie for the Phillips question; Josh White for Ovation - think he tried the guitar at the Gaslight in D.C. (Mr. Kamin made one for Glen Campbell soon after); at least one of the two American groups was mentioned; so we're close but no Seeger yet.

Mark

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 18 Apr 99 - 01:00 PM

Crispian St. Peters! Man I always wondered what that guy's real name was. Could it possibly his REAL one? In Canada and (at least parts of) the States "We Five" had the hit song on "You Were On My Mind". Didn't Crispian also do Ochs' "Changes"?

Very good, folks. Only one to go. The names of the Seeger siblings (other than Pete, Peggy, and Mike) who recorded.

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Apr 99 - 01:03 PM

You playing teacher's pet, Mark? The best way to get an "A" is to quote Perfesser Fielding himself, I suppose. Actually, I gotta say I'm impressed that you came up with the answer on that Dylan question. It had me stumped..
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 18 Apr 99 - 04:01 PM

Penny and Barbara.

Gramps

Subject: RE: trivia
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Apr 99 - 06:18 AM

Well, we could opt for a couple more...........

1. That's 5 Seegers, let's go for the 6-pack. Who was Charles Seeger?

2. For all you banjo players, Weissberg did "Dueling Banjos" for "Deliverance" but what Bluegrass group did he get it from?

3. Dylan used at least two other names besides Blind Boy Grunt...any Ideas? No, I'm sorry, "Song Stealin' Mortar Forker" is not correct.

These are too simple...need to think on some others. Rick asked us to add to his...ANYBODY GOT A GOOD ONE??? (I'm talkin' trvia question here)

catspaw

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 19 Apr 99 - 07:59 AM

Does "Bob Dylan" count as a pseudonym?

Subject: RE: trivia
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Apr 99 - 09:06 AM

Uh, good point Steve......In this case, no.

catspaw

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 19 Apr 99 - 10:12 AM

Weisberg got "Dueling Banjos" from The Dillards. A littel more trivia, they played a Hillbilly family whose name escapes me on The Andy Griffith Show. They actually performed DB on an episode.

Subject: RE: trivia
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Apr 99 - 10:17 AM

They played the Darling family with Denver Pyle as their Pa playing the jug. I don't think any of them ever had a line of dialogue.

cayspaw

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 19 Apr 99 - 10:25 AM

Catspaw, thank you for that. Do you remember the name of the daughter who was trying to woo Andy? And as far as I remember you're right about The Dillards having no lines. It sure was nice to hear some authentic Bluegrass on a t.v. sitcom.

Subject: RE: trivia
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Apr 99 - 10:50 AM

Her name was Charlene and at one point was being wooed by Ernest T. Bass while she was wooing Andy.

catspaw

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 19 Apr 99 - 12:02 PM

Charles Seeger: American folklorist, who at different times tried to take Classical music on the road with his wife Constance. There's a great photo of the two of them down south somewhere with tiny piano and violin standing in someone's field. Naturally they also tied it in with American trad. music as well. He lost a lot of jobs for being a communist, but always seemed to get another.

The first recording of "Dueling Banjos" was called "Feudin' Banjos", and was recorded and composed by Arthur "Guitar Boogie" Smith and Don Reno. (They did it with 5 string and tenor banjo) They are the ones who sued, and eventually got the royalties.

You got me on Zimmerman's two other aliases. (And these ARE NOT too easy!)

Here's a few new ones.

What folk singer played a guitar shaped like a bell?

Arlo Guthrie's brother recorded one album. Name him.

Peter Paul and Mary shared a lead gutar player with Harry Belafonte. Name him.

Bob Gibson's favourite singing partner changed his name twice. Give all three names.

Name the Limelighters' banjo player?

P.S. 'Course Sandy's right about Penny and Barbara Seeger.

Subject: RE: trivia
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 19 Apr 99 - 12:36 PM

FWIW, The name "Dueling Banjos" came from a prank played by Mr. Robert Pliskin, who equipped a beat-up banjo with a bayonet, and placed it in the window of Izzy Young's Folklore Center with a placard: One half of the only known set of dueling banjos. Eric Weissburg was strangely taken with this.

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 19 Apr 99 - 12:45 PM

Rick, you failed to mention that Charles Seeger was the father of Pete, John, Peggy, Mike, et al. He also transcribed many of the songs in the Archive of Folk Culture (as it is now known) at the Library of Congress. Ruth Crawford Seeger, his second wife, published some excellent books of folksongs for children. To top it all off, he employed Libba Cotten as a housekeeper, later learning that she played a pretty mean guitar (upside down and backwards). Now, there's a man who made a major contribution to American folk music, one way or another!

Sandy

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Mark Roffe
Date: 19 Apr 99 - 12:54 PM

The Belafonte/PPM guitarist must be the impeccable Millard Thomas.

Mark

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Mark Roffe
Date: 19 Apr 99 - 01:03 PM

Dunno about Arlo's brother, but Woody's cousin Jack Guthrie recorded an album called Oklahoma Hills. Don't suppose that's what we're looking for...

Mark

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Mark Roffe
Date: 19 Apr 99 - 01:33 PM

No, wait, Joady Guthrie is Arlo's brother. His album is "Spies on Wall Street."

Mark

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 19 Apr 99 - 05:30 PM

Mark! As Edward G. Robinson said to Steve McQueen in "the Cincinatti Kid". "You're good kid, real good!" Millard and Joady are keerect! 2 down and 3 to go.

When are you going to put us out of our misery on Dylan,Paw?

Subject: RE: trivia
From: RWilhelm
Date: 19 Apr 99 - 05:51 PM

I think Bob Gibsons pard would be Hamilton Camp. I know he changed his name once for religious reasons. One of Dylan's aliases was "Alias" from the movie "Pat Garret and Billy the Kid" another was Lucky Willbury of the Traveling Wilburys.

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 19 Apr 99 - 06:49 PM

Bob Camp (when he recorded that first album with Gibson, sometimes facetiously referred to as "The Bobbsey (sp?) Twins at the Gate of Horn") became Hamilton Camp to pursue his acting career, then Hamid Hamilton Camp for religious reasons.

Okay, Catspaw: who was the guitarist who backed Ian and Sylvia, and is now a neighbor of mine in northwest Connecticut? He's run for Congress in this district a few times as the Libertarian candidate. Didn't do too well.

Sandy

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Mark Roffe
Date: 19 Apr 99 - 06:59 PM

Catspaw, don't read this - I don't want to influence your answer.
I think the Ian and Sylvia guitarist must be John Herald(because I think David Rae is from Canada, and I don't know where Monte Dunn lives).

Subject: RE: trivia
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Apr 99 - 12:17 PM

Been off so long I'm trying to figure which is what here. I was going to go for Camp, got no idea on Sandy's last, but Mark is really good so I'd bet on his last post I didn't read. Can't see if it's been answered yet or I missed it, but the bell thing is killing me.

Dylan---"Bob Landy" which I can figure out and "Tedham Porterhouse" which I can't. Figured it as a "T-Bone Walker" rip in the same vein as "Blind Boy Grunt" but I can't convert Tedham to anything...The Dam, Dam The, Detham????

catspaw

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 20 Apr 99 - 12:19 PM

Great Mark, I finally get to say "not quite!" David Rea was from Ohio, but we made him an honorary Canadian when he played Merle Travis' "Blue Smoke". I know the answer to Sandy's question so I won't spoil it, but here's one: Gordon Lightfoot and Jim Croce shared a VERY eccentric bass player, name him.
Oh, and one more. Maybe a little tricky. On her very first recording, who was Joan Baez' sideman? Even more tricky, who was Sandy Paton's on his first? Got those? Well then Here's the capper. I'll be surprised if anyone gets this. Who was Bob Gibson's guitarist on "Ski Songs"?

As nobody's ventured a guess on the folk singer with the bell shaped guitar, the answer is : Carl Sandburg. Too obscure? I'm sorry. Oh and the Limelighters' banjoist was Alex Hassilev.

Subject: RE: trivia
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Apr 99 - 12:40 PM

Man, I think we're plumbing new depths of trivia here!!!

catspaw

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 20 Apr 99 - 12:44 PM

Well just call me "the plumber's helper", "Paw".

Subject: RE: trivia
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Apr 99 - 12:46 PM

And I do know you as a fellow who likes to stick his head into things.

catspaw

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 20 Apr 99 - 01:09 PM

"Why I 'otta" (Leo Gorcey in every Bowery Boys film)

Actually I love "trivia". I met Heather when we were both playing "pub quiz" in Toronto. Her team never seemed to win a single game, (probably her team-mates weren't as nurdy as some). But she had named her team "Stocks and Bondage" so I figured she might not be turned off by MY sense of humour! When I heard the Scottish accent (and saw the legs) I was hooked. Good decision.

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Mark Roffe
Date: 20 Apr 99 - 01:50 PM

I was on a show called "College Bowl" once. Sort of a Jeopardy-type thing. Funny how when I'd watch it on TV I always seemed to have lots of answers, but when I was on the show, I didn't know nuttin'. I finally thought I'd heard one I could get - I thought I'd heard it to be something like "What are three components of glass?" I pushed the buzzer and proudly rattled off "silica, alkali, and lime!!" The M.C. looked at me strangely and another contestant hit the buzzer and said, "The answer is Mickey Mouse." I never did find out what the question actually was.

Mark

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 20 Apr 99 - 02:04 PM

Mark, you whiz kid, Monte Dunn lives about six miles down the road from us. You win the multi-colored, cut-glass potato masher!

Caroline and I were once on "To Tell the Truth." I stumped the panel by answering that Alan Lomax was from Texas, originally, not New York City. Still, they nailed us in the long run. But I got a fat fee for singing for about 30 seconds over the opening credits. Beats working.

Sandy

Subject: RE: trivia
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Apr 99 - 02:05 PM

Knowing this group around here, I know I'm not alone in having friends who say, "You should be on "Jeopardy." Happens to a lot of you doesn't it? Mark, my friend, you just hit my biggest fear...making the show and all of a sudden we have topics I know nothing about, Trebek is speaking Chinese, and I look like Homer Simpson. I wouldn't try out for that show if you stuck a gun to my head!

catspaw

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Mark Roffe
Date: 20 Apr 99 - 02:45 PM

You know it, catspaw. And what really made it hurt, there was a gal on the show who repeatedly gave correct questions before the questions were completely asked. Such as:
"Baseball: In 1961,..."
BEEP!!!!!
"The Boston Red Sox?"
"That is correct - The Boston Red Sox was the team that the Yankees were playing against when Roger Maris hit his 61st home run to break Babe Ruth's record.
"
I mean, how could she possibly know what he was gonna ask??

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 20 Apr 99 - 03:21 PM

Perhaps she phoned Dionne Warwick's psychic friends network.

Sandy, Jeez, is there anything you haven't done?

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 20 Apr 99 - 04:31 PM

Made money.