trivia

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 20 Apr 99 - 05:48 PM

Well, I've found my true role in life. To be straight man to Sandy and Catspaw.

Thought of a good trivia question: We all know that Steve Martin is an excellent banjoist (and not just for a comedian) BUT...can you name the famous stand up comic who is a top notch frailer?

Subject: RE: trivia
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Apr 99 - 06:04 PM

Billy Connelly? Can't think of others, but a lot of actors play too....John Lithgow, Craig Nelson

catspaw

Subject: RE: trivia
From: anna
Date: 20 Apr 99 - 06:41 PM

about people don't believe me, thaey think that I'm just braggin. But I canfeel the way that I do and still be on the wagon. All I need is one of your smiles, sunshine in my eyes oh me, oh my, do I feel higher than a kite can fly. Give me loven,Baby, I feel high.

Scotch and Soda I don't know the autho, but it was on of the Folk groups around "The Kingston Trio" time. Might even be them.

This happen to have remained one of my very favorite songs.

Anna

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Ronn
Date: 20 Apr 99 - 08:08 PM

This was WAY up on the page, but I have vague memories of Bob Dylan doing "Early Morning Rain" on the SELF PORTRAIT album. Dylan played piano (but did not sing) on an album called THE BLUES PROJECT (having nothing at all to do with the band of the same name) which I seem to recall also had John Sebastian in some capacity. Is the Crispian St Peters mentioned above the same singer who had a mid-60's hit called "Pied Piper"? I used to LOVE "College Bowl"...

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 20 Apr 99 - 08:23 PM

Well, the "paw" did it again. The Big "Yin" is right!
Ronn, Bob did indeed do Early Mornin Rain. But PP and M beat him to it by a few years.

Any takers on the "sidemen" questions before I give the answers and try to get out of this thread gracefully.

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Night Owl
Date: 20 Apr 99 - 10:57 PM

Rick....I've been having fun reading this thread....would be VERY disappointed if Catspaw and Sandy allowed you to get out of this thread "gracefully"!!!

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 20 Apr 99 - 11:36 PM

Don't worry, Night Owl. If Rick gets out of this one, he's gonna have to wriggle out.

With whom did Odetta record on what I think was her first album (and with whom she shared equal billing)?

Sandy

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 20 Apr 99 - 11:45 PM

Look, I'll start a new one in a few days! Odetta eh? probably in the 50s right? Well she was married to Louisiana Red at one time, but I don't think it's him. Was it a jazz guy? Not Bill Lee maybe?

I'll give it another day and if nobody gets the sidemen questions I'm outta here.

Subject: RE: trivia
From: catspaw49
Date: 21 Apr 99 - 12:12 AM

Odetta huh? Gawd she recorded with lots of folk, but I think I'm wrong here, probably later, but I remember some songs and maybe an albums worth that was with Larry Mohr. Seems like my friend Peabody had an album like that in college.

catspaw

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 21 Apr 99 - 12:55 AM

No, Rick, but Bill Lee was Odetta's bass player when I worked with her for a month at the old Gate of Horn in Chicago. I'll leave the question open for a while, 'cause that highly-educated Mark has yet to show the stretch of his memory on this one.

Gramps

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 21 Apr 99 - 02:32 AM

Darn it Sandy, I'm tryin' to get out of here, but you got me thinkin'. Odetta met and sang with Woody, Pete and Will Geer in Laurel Canyon sometime around 1952-3. And she was married to a guy named "Gordon". Who, I'm wonderin was he? Perhaps a jazz player? She did an album with Harry B. but that would have been later I believe. Boy, if I was in your library right now I'd find it in a flash!
Ronn, the one and the same Crispian St. Peters.
"Paw" who the hell is Larry Mohr?
C'mon folks, at least try "Joan Baez's first recording partner?

Subject: RE: trivia
From: catspaw49
Date: 21 Apr 99 - 03:12 AM

Well Rick, I keep trying. I'm going through junk salvaged from 30 years ago and I got more partial pieces of stuff than the law should allow...and probably doesn't. A page of several, obviously, that itself is half gone...you know? Anyway, I'm still workin' on Baez. And Larry Mohr was a singing partner of Odetta at one point, but I think it was much later in the Village,maybe. He had an album out too because I remember a song...well, not any more, but I liked it enough to learn it at the time.......anyway, I can't sleep and so I'm rummaging around making one hell of a mess.

And I agree with Rick.......SANDY---What Ain't You Done? Most times, I feel like I've led a pretty full and diverse life, but you just amaze me there Granpa!!! I'm in total awe sometimes..........

catspaw (for whom tomorrow promises to be a headache)

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Night Owl
Date: 21 Apr 99 - 03:18 AM

Joan Baez recording partner....dumb answer #1...Dylan??

Subject: RE: trivia
From: RWilhelm
Date: 21 Apr 99 - 08:10 AM

Fred Hellerman played guitar on the first Baez album.

Subject: RE: trivia
From: catspaw49
Date: 21 Apr 99 - 08:36 AM

I bet Earl's right, it would make sense. Is her first album the one with FFV and Pal of Mine on it? I was thinking that was it (that's where I learned those two) and if that's right, she did 2 or 3 with Pete Seeger on it so Hellerman would be a logical answer.

catspaw

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 21 Apr 99 - 11:40 AM

'Fraid not folks. I believe Ms Baez's first recorded singing partner (and sideman) was Bob Gibson at the Newport Folk Featival in (I believe 1959) They sang Mary Had a Baby.

Lightfoot and Croce shared John Stockfish as a bassist.

Sandy's guitarist was Fred Hellerman

Gibson's guitarist on Ski Songs was Joe Puma

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 21 Apr 99 - 11:31 PM

Larry Mohr is a good answer, but I was thinking of the guy with equal billing: Rolf Cahn (I hope I spelled that right).

It's not a question of adventuring, Catspaw, it merely a matter of longevity.

Gramps, but still singin'!

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Mark Roffe
Date: 22 Apr 99 - 09:39 AM

I have Odetta's first album (Odetta Sings Ballads and Blues, Tradition Recordings, TLP 1010, recorded September 1956. Liner notes by Dean Gitter begin with "A magnificent new voice is here to sing the old songs..." and end with "It is therefore with a pride which borders on hybris that Tradition Records presents in her first album one of the most electrifying performers of our time -- ODETTA!" But nowhere does it mention anyone accompanying her. I'm listening to the album right now, and there are no other voice on any songs, although about a quarter of the songs have a unnamed bass playing along. Otherwise, it's just purely Odetta. So is Sandy asking a trick question, or does he know who that string bass player is? And is Dean Gitter's "hybris" a typo for "hubris?" And where did my son put the big dictionary?

Mark

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 22 Apr 99 - 11:02 AM

Well I'm TRYING to get this thread to croak but Mark, if you keep giving us openings like the last one....

Sandy is of course correct in that Odetta did an album with Rolf Cahn, but he neglected to predict how nurd-like we would be in trying to find her FIRST recording. As he says, the bass player would be Spike Lee's dad "Bill". For a while I thought also that he had posed a "trick question", and that the answer would be: "On my album "The Many Sides of Sandy Paton", you'll notice that one of the four pictures is of a stout black woman in a kilt." Proving that there are MANY sides to Sandy Paton!

Subject: RE: trivia
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 22 Apr 99 - 12:49 PM

Mark: I may have goofed, but I'm pretty sure that your Tradition album is not Odetta's first recording, regardless of Dean Gitter's copy (whatever happened to Dean Gitter? Anybody know?). The one I'm remembering was made in California. Might even have been a 10-inch disc. Can't find it in the stacks right now, darn it. Rick'll probably find it on his next visit.

Sandy