Subject: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Donuel Date: 12 Dec 10 - 04:44 AM I have found myself in a unique and unanticipated situation. I have to change my name ONLY if I want to get a passport. I want and need a passport. By a curious chain of events I am only able to get a birth certificate to my birth name, but my name was changed when I was adopted at age 3. Part of the chain of events include a fire that destroyed records. After phone calls and letters to obtain a birth certificate my check and request form was returned with the suggestion that I would have to do a name change to get a birth certificate. My birth name is hideous and I'm not that fond of what I have now. My name now is already a different spelling than my children's names. So If I have to change my name to obtain a passport, I may as well choose a name that will serve me best. I have been looking at the credits at the end of movies more closely. I have entertained last names of great peace makers. Names like George W Carlin have come to mind. I have heard certain names are far more receptive to others and may even be the cause for successful interactions. Yeah I even looked into porn names but are the most unlikely. At any rate some names are better than others so if you know any post them. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 12 Dec 10 - 05:45 AM names in the earlier part of the alphabet? Google search on 'choosing a new surname' there are even websites offering advice! |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: John MacKenzie Date: 12 Dec 10 - 06:02 AM Homer Peanuts |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: open mike Date: 12 Dec 10 - 06:52 AM hmmm-several of the sites which came up in a search were discussing new names that might be shared with other family members..esp. spouse.. is there a Mrs. Donuel and how does she feel about this? are there any other members of either family that you might choose? good luck...will you be keeping your mudcat handle? how about an anagram? same letters, different order.. http://wordsmith.org/anagram/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anagram http://www.mbhs.edu/~bconnell/cgi-bin/anagram.cgi |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Georgiansilver Date: 12 Dec 10 - 08:30 AM So you apply for the passport using the name on your birth certificate but you carry on calling yourself whatever you want... or is it not that simple??? |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 12 Dec 10 - 09:21 AM Having a passport in one name and credit cards and other ID in another might look a bit suspicious to airport security personnel. Unless you're prepared for the eventuality that, at some time, in some country, you may have to do a lot of explaining to some guy with a bushy mustache while his cousin guards the door with an AK-47 in one hand and the leash of a Doberman in the other, get the same name on everything. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Jim Dixon Date: 12 Dec 10 - 09:26 AM I don't understand the logic of requiring you to change your name, but having it not matter what you change it to. Why wouldn't your current name work as well as any name you might choose? Are you sure you didn't misunderstand the requirement? |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Naemanson Date: 12 Dec 10 - 11:05 AM Here is your chance to be truly creative. where does your personality lead you? Odin Allfather? Lilbo Peep? Dirk Gently? Bill Shakespeare? Vince Vango? Ein Stein? Tar Sands? May Den Ant? It's a little like getting a tattoo. You're gonna have it for a long time so use some judgment and a little humor. Some to avoid: Moe Hammetsucks; Donwith Islam; Godiz Dead. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: GUEST,Neil D Date: 12 Dec 10 - 02:05 PM Hugo Z. Hackenbush |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Gurney Date: 12 Dec 10 - 02:05 PM Why not Donuel (What your kid's surname is)? Long term, maybe best for their benefit. I changed my name by deed poll at 21, and that fact still comes up occasionally, for official reasons like passports, 48 years later. Governments have LONG memories. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Ebbie Date: 12 Dec 10 - 02:23 PM I too wonder whether there is misunderstanding as to the requirement. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Richard Bridge Date: 12 Dec 10 - 02:53 PM King George Three |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: katlaughing Date: 12 Dec 10 - 03:17 PM You could choose something which points to your craft/talent/profession/hobbies i.e. Don Mesmer, Don Artist, Don a'Cello (of course the first name could be changed, too, though for the latter it wouldn't really work without "Don.") I have used an old family name as a pseudonym for writing a few things. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: mg Date: 12 Dec 10 - 03:19 PM I would consult with someone official and do the least change that you can with some sort of paper trail to prove your identity. Perhaps your birth name with your present name in there as well, such as Donuel Smith Jones or something. I would not go for cutesy when dealing with immigration, anti-terrorist etc. mg |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: SINSULL Date: 12 Dec 10 - 03:37 PM When you were adopted your parents were issued a new birth certificate with your new name. Get a copy and you will be fine. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: katlaughing Date: 12 Dec 10 - 04:22 PM Sometimes not, Sins. That was supposed to happen when my Rog adopted all three of my kids, but the lawyer never got it done and we lived out of state, so their bcs are still in original birth names. They all have to show the adoption court papers in order to do anything legal such as marry, get a passport, etc. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: I don't know Date: 12 Dec 10 - 04:39 PM I was adopted by my step-father when I was three & he married mum but the judge had not signed the papers so when I got married 33 years ago there was a problem as my birth certificate was also lost when the records office in London had a fire & mum never had a copy. At that time the register put my original surname followed by "now known as", to overcome the problem for the marriage certificate. This was not considered a legal document when I went for my passport but they accepted a letter from my doctor as proof. Maybe this could help you. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Bob the Postman Date: 12 Dec 10 - 05:33 PM I believe the name "Robert Zimmerman" is no longer in use by its original owner. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Jack Campin Date: 12 Dec 10 - 07:13 PM Looks like "Abdelbaset Al-Megrahi" will be available shortly too, and "Ariel Sharon" not long after. Why not have both? |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Ed T Date: 12 Dec 10 - 08:02 PM Rapaire? Since, I understand it has been abandoned. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Donuel Date: 13 Dec 10 - 01:54 AM Sinsull that was exactly what I have tried to do. I even had the original and amenended certificates before we moved but only the birth name can be sent immediately which does me no good.. 'I don't know' You had the same predicament! My beauracracy is just as bollocked. To keep my current name still requires a large expense and a name change because of their lost documents and stupid rules. btw a legal name change goes on all your credit cards,license etc. Mrs. Donuel was too feminist to play the change your maiden name game in the first place. _____________________________________________________________ Making up bad names is easy for me but a name that makes people smile or feel good is tough. bad names: Buzz Kill Knight Mare Daryl Lict Homer Lesbum Nigel Featherbottom Leonardo D'Jersey Kaan Vick Mahubaratta Desideratta Jones Raoul Over Bill Shitner John Latrine On the brighter side... Groucho Mark Roger Over Donald Shindler Rory Success Martin Ghandi Saulad Gold Don Goodfather Howie U. Good Aliz Duegood Michael Angelo Here are my 6 favs. Glen S Cool George W Carlin Don F Kennedy Woody A Nelson Don A Cello Euell B Free Perhaps I will have a poll on a social networking site to determine the most positively viewed name. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: open mike Date: 13 Dec 10 - 02:57 AM My daughter was born at home, but out of county and we failed to file for a birth certificate. She was able to get a passport, and driver's license, but the only document we have been able to get from the county where she was born is a statement that says they do not have record of her being born there. god luck with your name ("handle") and let us know what you decide on! |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Allan C. Date: 13 Dec 10 - 06:26 AM After a sojourn to the beach I found a sand covered capo in my pocket. I have often since thought the name, Sandy Capo, would be very nice. But then, I've also thought that Franklin W. Pierce was pretty cool. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Donuel Date: 13 Dec 10 - 08:31 AM GWB's mother is related to Franklin Pierce. When it comes to realtions I have a distant relation to John Staurt Mills. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: maple_leaf_boy Date: 13 Dec 10 - 10:57 AM Woody A Nelson sounds like a good name. "Woodsmith" being the formal name. The poll on a social networking site is a good idea. Somebody did that recently, to name the child their expecting. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: katlaughing Date: 13 Dec 10 - 11:23 AM Don A Cello ***One of mine made the short list*****BG** |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Mooh Date: 13 Dec 10 - 12:47 PM Mooh is taken, so don't use it. Don't use Spaw either, it might be hard to live down. There aren't too many Adolph Hitlers in the phone book, and what fun that would be at parties. O'VanMcSquigglepussbergson is too long. But seriously, choose names you like, have family importance, cultural links, don't generally offend, aren't cutsy, and aren't the devil for people to spell. Hyphens confuse folks too, though what the hell, we live in a hyphenated world. Initials that spell something rude aren't a great idea either. Don't make up something new that everyone will forever ask you about. Michael Crocker suits me 'cause it is me, but I could live with George Johnston, Andrew Bruce, or Bruce Thompson just fine. Peace, Mooh. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 13 Dec 10 - 12:48 PM Lotsa fun here, but beware! The ones that are funniest are likely to make trouble with straight-faced officials down the road; they'll decide the name is a fake, and then you have an argument to make. For many, many years (probably too late now) I've sworn that I was going to change my last name to something imaginative like Smith or Jones or Brown. The reason is plain when I sign off as . . . Dave Oesterreich P.S. If I were forced to change it now, I'd adopt "Austria", a simpleminded transliteration from German. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Mooh Date: 13 Dec 10 - 12:50 PM I used to joke that if I ever had a son, I would name him Maurice Ronald...Moron for short. You can have that if you like, I won't be having any more children. You can thank me later. Peace, Mooh. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 13 Dec 10 - 12:58 PM Donuel, why don't you just go to your local courthouse and find out how to 'change' your name from your birth name to your present name? That way, school records, property ownership, and your children's birth certificates will not be affected. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: katlaughing Date: 13 Dec 10 - 01:55 PM I don't think he likes it overmuch, leeneia: ...I'm not that fond of what I have now. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Ebbie Date: 13 Dec 10 - 02:36 PM Oesterreich? I quite like Eastern Kingdom. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Little Hawk Date: 13 Dec 10 - 03:31 PM I think "Dick Awl" is a name that most people would find pretty easy to remember... ;-) |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Ed T Date: 13 Dec 10 - 06:03 PM Norville McRedenbacher |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Little Hawk Date: 13 Dec 10 - 06:08 PM Tom Aynepoisoning |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Ed T Date: 13 Dec 10 - 06:15 PM Ivan Skavinsky Skavar Jr. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: katlaughing Date: 13 Dec 10 - 06:20 PM Houdini Watts Don A Peachy (if you liked Don Amechi:-) Hol E Moses (just being silly, now:-) |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Dave MacKenzie Date: 13 Dec 10 - 06:36 PM Josh MacIntyre (Jesus son of the Carpenter) |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 13 Dec 10 - 09:39 PM Try Oliver Klozov. Play with the pronunciation...you'll like it! GfS |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler Date: 14 Dec 10 - 08:12 AM Warren Peace? (It's easier to remember than Tolstoy) |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Donuel Date: 14 Dec 10 - 11:08 AM Warren Peace is a damn good name but it does seem contrived. Some product names are famous for being awkward like Smuckers or Fuddrucker. Some names might inspire sympathy like Charile Brown. The suggestion of class or wealth rules out Don F Kennedy despite its honorable democratic history. Then there are seasonal favorites. Rudolf Rupert Rumpledickskin. King Midas, Jack Frost, Ebbie Scrooge. Names that imply criminality like Mr. Madoff did surprisingly well. He may as well been named Rob Fortune. Max Prophet or Saul E Gold might do well on Wall St. Hey that would make quite a investment firm, Gold Fortune & Prophet . I have found that most people here seem to have names that can be found in the bible. The Car Guys on npr are a valuable source of clever names. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: The Sandman Date: 14 Dec 10 - 11:27 AM miles miles is a good name. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: maeve Date: 14 Dec 10 - 11:40 AM Donuel, I knew a publisher named Warren Pease- his real name. You can do better! |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Bill D Date: 14 Dec 10 - 11:55 AM When I was about 14, I made up a name for some silly game I was playing with a friend....I haven't used it for..oh, about 50 years.....so you may have: Jootminsky Swigminor Warfle |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Donuel Date: 14 Dec 10 - 11:55 AM I just thought of some other monied names Johnny Cash Johney Paycheck 'Check' Atkins Donny Cash is a soulful name thanks to Johnny. In fact its better than Woody Nelson since Willie Nelson has associations to pot and IRS problems, not to mention 'could have' 'should have' songs. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Donuel Date: 14 Dec 10 - 12:02 PM btw almost any name is better than Blagg (birth name) or Hack. While I don't know what a blagg is, it does sound like a bad taste. Everyone knows what a hack is. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Smokey. Date: 14 Dec 10 - 12:46 PM Morgoth Tranklement |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Ebbie Date: 14 Dec 10 - 01:09 PM If your grasp of reality isn't stronger than 'Ebbie Scrooge', I fear your ultimate choice of name will come to haunt you. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Little Hawk Date: 14 Dec 10 - 01:11 PM Lewellyn Cuddlesworth |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Ed T Date: 14 Dec 10 - 01:21 PM I used to work with Stephen Stevens and another guy named Fred Herring. Fish names could be beneficial? How about Silver Fish? |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Smokey. Date: 14 Dec 10 - 01:46 PM Poppa D. Kettlon Todd Arpettle Bert Pottem Phil Billihiddle Alex McOblass Ed Gaskitt Ivan Ossenkart Eamonn Uttcase |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Little Hawk Date: 14 Dec 10 - 02:08 PM Ben Doon Phil McCracken Dick Brayne Donald Duck |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: katlaughing Date: 14 Dec 10 - 02:18 PM According to THIS PAGE "Blagg" is an old Anglo-Saxon version of "Black" denoting someone with dark hair or complexion. According to it they were in Kent long before the Norman Conquest and also came to the colonies very early on, as in the 1600s. There's even a family crest and different spellings. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Smokey. Date: 14 Dec 10 - 02:23 PM Tony Guzzinard Alan Fresco Ivanichi Groin William Oysterbottom Norman Font Phil Formin Harry Stockrat Caesar Hermanns Juan Toumenni |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Naemanson Date: 01 Jan 11 - 11:41 PM It's been a couple of weeks. How did this turn out? |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 02 Jan 11 - 12:06 AM Oliver Klozoff |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: open mike Date: 02 Jan 11 - 03:39 AM did you go to one of those word scrambling sites like the one where you can find a pirate name for talk like a pirate day? one mudcater had hese names on another thread...Lager Can, Carnal AGe, Arcane lag and on and on... point being maybe you cold just rearrange the letters of your name.. http://wordsmith.org/anagram/ i already mentioned this... but let us know how you are doing with choosing... a new name in the new year.... |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: DMcG Date: 02 Jan 11 - 06:44 AM Mrs. Donuel was too feminist to play the change your maiden name game in the first place. Have you considered adopting her name? |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Backwoodsman Date: 02 Jan 11 - 06:56 AM Orson Carte. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Dave Hanson Date: 02 Jan 11 - 07:27 AM From the film ' Hombre ' when Paul Newman is asked what name he's using, ' anything except bastard will do. ' Dave H |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Bobert Date: 02 Jan 11 - 08:24 AM How about Don U. Ell??? |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: GUEST,Dani Date: 02 Jan 11 - 09:02 AM Chrysler? Though you might update to Goldman Sachs. Dani |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Bonzo3legs Date: 03 Jan 11 - 08:22 AM Windsor is good - can be used for both Christian and surname. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: GUEST,Grishka Date: 03 Jan 11 - 09:13 AM One aspect has to be taken into account whenever you choose a name for anyone or anything: search engines. If, say, you want your hotel to be distinctive, give it a unique name, i.e. a word which does not exist in any language. Artists and business people sometimes (not always) have similar wishes. The other extreme is something like Peter Jones, which makes it much more difficult for employers or authorities to track your footprints in the internet. For some purposes it is best not to be unique, but to be found by those persons who have additional information like your profession or the place where you live. Test your candidates by googling. If you want your name to be known internationally, make sure that it does not have any negative connotation in other major languages. SAP is an exception. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Donuel Date: 03 Jan 11 - 12:18 PM Kodak is an example of choosing a unique name that stands out. I have chosen a family name on my father's mother's side. It makes the most sense for my children. Still it is hard to let go of such great names as Fart N. Duck and other great names that can be found here. Meanwhile I will have to trace this thread as a name reference for the next novel American novel. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Rusty Dobro Date: 03 Jan 11 - 03:28 PM When the folk police were closing in after I was heard singing the words of 'Wild Rover' to the tune of 'Streets of London', I assumed the identity of Dusty Robro for a while - you can have that one now I've finished with it. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: GUEST,M Basa - Ritchie Date: 03 Jan 11 - 06:38 PM Please dont use my name I changed it from Ed Case |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Lox Date: 03 Jan 11 - 08:49 PM The mudcatter formerly known as Prince ... |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 04 Jan 11 - 08:33 AM |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Naemanson Date: 04 Jan 11 - 06:49 PM In the novel Catch-22 there is a character named Major Major who gets promoted, through the magic of military bureaucracy, directly to major so he is Major Major Major. Let this be a lesson to anyone choosing a name for any reason. It could cause problems down the line. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: EBarnacle Date: 04 Jan 11 - 10:42 PM I was going to suggest Donuel Agin. I am glad you have chosen a name you woill be comfortable with. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: JohnInKansas Date: 05 Jan 11 - 02:01 AM "Blagg (birth name)" ?? Judging by "her" ancestral research, had your ancestors come through Ellis Island around 1900 that might well have appeared as "Black" on the ship manifests and/or the immigration rolls. You could be Mannin Black (and go by "Mannie" in the evenings). Of course with about equal likelihood it might have become "Blaugh," but then you'd have to be "E. Ringo." If any of your ancestors migrated - almost anywhere - you might find something with a "family ring" to it more to your liking in your family tree, but genealogical research can be rather time consuming if you don't already have a fair start on it. You might, though, try searching your existing original and/or current names at a couple of the genealogical web sites to see if their were near relatives of someone with names like yours with better names - if there's a possibility that you might someday want some "descendants of your ancient ancestors" to stumble in on you. Your granpa's sister might have married into a betternamed family.(?) John |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: freda underhill Date: 05 Jan 11 - 03:24 AM Donuel, after all that, are you going to let us know what your name is? hopefully freda |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: GUEST,Patsy Date: 05 Jan 11 - 09:48 AM Something really blokie like Bill. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Donuel Date: 05 Jan 11 - 10:22 AM It was my stepfather's name that came through Ellis Island and became changed through a quirk of a Yiddish retort to to a brusque immigration clerk. When asked what Grandpa's name was the Balkan/Polish/Russian sounding name was incomprehensible to the clerk. The annoyed clerk barked again what the hell is your name!? Grandpa replied; Hak mir nit in kop! - which means, Stop bending my ear (Lit.; Stop banging on my head) The clerk said Hakman...NEXT |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Donuel Date: 05 Jan 11 - 10:32 AM My other gripe is that DOnuel definetly sounds feminine. Yeah I probably had as many fights as that poor guy named Sue. I had to have my nose surgicly repaired as a result. |
Subject: RE: BS: I have to change my name - but to what? From: Ed T Date: 05 Jan 11 - 10:39 AM Dirk Diggler, if you are up to it, that is. :) |