Old Songs Festival 2000, mudcatters at?

Subject: mudcatters at old songs
From: kendall
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 02:32 PM

I dont own a Mudcat tee shirt, but, if you see a motor home with ROLLING HOME accross the front, stop and say hello. (I stole that idea from Sandy)

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: karen k
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 02:36 PM

Real glad you are coming Kendall. See you there.

karen

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: Alice
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 03:15 PM

Hey, Kendall, why is this thread titled BS? Isn't it about Mudcat and music? (poking you in the ribs) Just for fun, I typed in www.mudcat.org at the BullshitAnalyzer.com site. Does anyone know how they define "meaningless content"?

BullshitAnalyzer click here

Alice

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: MMario
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 04:22 PM

I'm not sure how they define it, but it is interesting that it goes (well) over 100%. The main forum site ranked at 17p (whatever a "p" is,) and this thread came in at the same. The mudcat Political party thread ranked at 16 p and the "spancil hill" thread 18.

OldSongs site came in at 28 "p" or 280% bullshit according to their ranking system.

I hope (if nothing goes wrong) to be at oldsongs friday night the 23rd, and on Saturday the 24rth.

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 04:26 PM

I'll be there. I think I'll hang my "Animaterra" tshirt over the windshield of my big green Ford van.
Now here's my dilemma: do I or do I not bring my 11 year old daughter? She's dying to go- she loves the music, but she loves the merchandise as much! She doesn't like following me around to workshops and would want to be free to roam around on her own. Last year she brought a friend and it was fine; this year the friend can't come. Advice?

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: SINSULL
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 04:34 PM

A different friend and a credit card?

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 05:44 PM

Surely she can find/meet a new friend there? And you could meet the SPO (significant parental unit), and all would be happy? Except of course, the hazards of letting an 11 yr old shop unsupervised........

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: Hollowfox
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 06:37 PM

Go ahead, bring your daughter. My 11 1/2 year old daughter will be there, from Thursday night on. She's a sociable sort, so things should work out if they don't think they're getting shoved together by parents. As for the craft area, let her admire it all she wants. Take note of what she really likes for future/birthday/Christmas reference, and make no promises. See ya there.

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: Jeri
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 06:57 PM

Hollowfox, I look forward to seeing you again - it's been a long time since I've talked to you.

Of course, I'm looking forward to seeing everyone. I can't wait for this!!! Just wish I had my ticked already.

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: Hollowfox
Date: 15 Jun 00 - 02:45 PM

All you tent campers, you'll want to be sure to bring a groundcloth this year. They've been having a lot of rain lately in that neighborhood. The good news is that it will probably be easier than usual to get the tent pegs in. The bad news is that it might be like pitching a tent on a lake of chocolate pudding. See you (glub) there!

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: Marymac90
Date: 15 Jun 00 - 03:17 PM

I'll see you all there. I'll be camping as close as it's reasonable to get to the gate to the fest grounds. How close that is will depend on the weather-past and over the weekend! Real close and you're down really LOW, where it's wetter. I usually am around the pole barn somewhere. I have a tent tall enough to stand up in, and a midnight blue Mitsubishi Galant.

Does anyone want to go to the Stan Rogers Folk Fest in Canso, Nova Scotia, the following weekend? If so, email me at [e-mail]

Marymac

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: Hollowfox
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 12:52 PM

Last year at the Saturday night Creature Comforts sing, I promised a gentleman several pages of the Moose Son. I went home, gathered them up, and lost hte card wiht his name and address on it. I you're out there, I'm bringing the stuff along. As for you others, I'll probably have some extra copies, if you ask nicely.

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: Hollowfox
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 12:58 PM

Oops. That's the Moose Song, of course. I don't have room for a moose son; my two are quite large enough, and I don't have room.

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: bigchuck
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 01:14 PM

By all means bring kids. I have brought my granddaughters each year. (9 & 10 years old)They have a great time. Actually they tend to vanish the minute we get there and then show up at moments throughout the festival to beg for money and food for themselves and the pack they run with.

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: Hollowfox
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 02:29 PM

I bring *my* kids, but the moose have to bring their own.

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 04:35 PM

Well, I'm getting closer to saying she can go, thanks to your encouragement. It'll be a good bonding time- if I ever see her, the way the kids do carry on!

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: Hollowfox
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 04:49 PM

Bonding time, or separate time in the same location. Sounds like a no-lose situation to me.

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 05:26 PM

Animaterra, we brought our sons to festivals from the age of 4. They got to run around on their own around age 8 or 9 during daylight hours, and usually brought a friend in the early years. Try to get the name and campsite of at least one of the kids they might be with, and have your child check in at specific intervals, like once an hour, and less often as they get older.

I do remember Frank and I fanning out to find the missing kid a few times, and usually found him sitting on the ground with 3 or 4 other kids, jamming. And then there were the times he had to find the missing parents, and found us somewhere jamming. . .

Music festivals are wonderful for kids, and let them start early to feel the joy and fun of music.

Subject: question about old songs fest
From: Linda Mattson
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 06:14 PM

Hello Mudcatters, Looks like lots of you go to the old songs festival. i'm thrilled I get to go because my company is bringing me to the East Coast for meetings and the time coincides. Can anyone tell me - looks like you need your own chair for concerts. Do they have chairs to borrow or rent? Thanks! Linda in Portland, OR

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: bigchuck
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 09:58 PM

Linda, as far as I can recall they don't have chairs for sale or rent. Many people get by with a blanket on the ground.

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: Midchuck
Date: 17 Jun 00 - 09:46 PM

Just keeping this thread refreshed until the Thursday afternoon exodus.

Peter.

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: kendall
Date: 18 Jun 00 - 11:46 AM

I hope this isn't one of those things where parents turn their kids loose to commit all sorts of anti social behavior. Remember folks, peer pressure is much stronger than the influence of a parent who is no where around.

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: Midchuck
Date: 18 Jun 00 - 12:09 PM

In all the years I've been going to Old Songs, I've only seen two bad children (but I've seen them for several years in a row, now.

The major problems are drummers, and old farts who think if you sing it far enough off key, it's bluegrass....

Peter.

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: bigchuck
Date: 18 Jun 00 - 04:36 PM

Mr granddaughters resem..uh..resent that remark. Watch that "old-farts singing out of key" stuff too. I'll ask Dee to bring the conga.

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: bbc
Date: 18 Jun 00 - 04:46 PM

Just had a nice weekend at the Clearwater Festival w/ Sandy & Caroline Paton representing Folk Legacy & dick greenhaus & Susan of DT for CAMSCO, but not many Mudcatters in attendance. The weather sure didn't cooperate, though--hot & humid on Saturday & steady rain on Sunday. Yuck!

Hope to see many of you next Sunday. We graduate David on saturday & then will come up to join you. MM, sure wish you could stay, so we can meet in person!

best,

bbc

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: MMario
Date: 18 Jun 00 - 06:09 PM

bbc- I have TWO jobs to go to on sunday, I wish I could stay also!

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: Susan of DT
Date: 18 Jun 00 - 06:10 PM

Remember to meet at the Folk Legacy (and Camsco) booth.

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: Midchuck
Date: 19 Jun 00 - 02:50 PM

Refresh...

Have we got a final head count?

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: MMario
Date: 19 Jun 00 - 03:01 PM

I have ONE head. But I come up with about 22 attendees, counting from this thread

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 19 Jun 00 - 05:21 PM

lindamat from Portland--

During the daytime concerts, you will probably find chairs or benches at many of the stages, (excepting area 3, and the dance barn) and might not need your own, particularly if you're willing to sit on the ground. But for the evening, you will definitely want your own chair or blanket. If you want to travel light, purchase a cheap chair at the supermarkets or drugstores near there.

--Charlie Baum

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: MMario
Date: 19 Jun 00 - 10:26 PM

BJ's Wholesale :club has really comfortable folding chairs for under $15 bucks, sturdy enough to hold me. (THAT means VERY sturdy!) I just picked one up for Old Songs.

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: GUEST,Cati
Date: 20 Jun 00 - 02:21 AM

please forgive my ignorance but what and where is "old songs"? Am I correct in assuming it was this past weekend and now I have to wait for next year to go?

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: Midchuck
Date: 20 Jun 00 - 06:58 AM

No, it's this weekend coming up.

Their webpage, which is here will give you full information.

Peter.

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: Mini Me
Date: 20 Jun 00 - 12:37 PM

Hello All, I will be at Old Songs Thursday afternoon. Where is everyone meeting on Thursday or Friday. By the way if your entering through Gate 3 , ask for Mike Strobel so I can give you the Mudcatters hug and Handshake !!!!!

Bring some rain gear !!!!!!!!!

Drive safe & see you soon !!

Mike Strobel

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: bbc
Date: 20 Jun 00 - 08:43 PM

Mike,

Anytime you're not listening to music,drop by the Folk Legacy stand. Some of us will likely be there.

best,

bbc (only Sunday, this year)

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: GUEST,Cati
Date: 21 Jun 00 - 12:28 AM

Midchuck; thanks for the info. Pity I can't get out of New Mexico right now. Need more than 3 days lead time to get that far east of the Rio Grande. Guess I'll have to try for next year.

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: Linda Mattson
Date: 21 Jun 00 - 02:12 AM

MiniMee (Mike), Where will you be on Saturday if I come into gate 3? I'd like to learn the official handshake. I'm arriving into Albany on Friday at midnight so I imagine the action will be over for Friday. Think so? Linda from Portland

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 21 Jun 00 - 09:11 AM

Lindamat--

Things are NOT over at midnight. The singing in the Dutch Barn with Sandy and Caroline Paton BEGINS at midnight Friday, and runs for at least a couple of hours, maybe longer. At that hour, you should have an easy ride from the Airport to Altamont. See you there?

--Charlie Baum

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: Mini Me
Date: 21 Jun 00 - 10:28 AM

Dear Charlie, Can anyone participate in the Sing around at the Dutch Barn on Friday evening ? Even if one plays contemporary folk ? If so , I'll se you there !

Mike Strobel

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: Mini Me
Date: 21 Jun 00 - 10:36 AM

Dear Linda, The official Mudcat hug is an official secret. It seems that unless this hug has a registered copyright, it is not permitted in public. With that said we will resort to plan B and the following will occur :

A. A short quick focus of the eyes B. A broad smile and " Hello " in various slurs and/or international jargon. C. The extension of arms, reaching around the other person and finally ending with " It's great to meet you in person ".

Please be aware this will all take place in moments and be a lot shorter than the time it has taken you to read and /or comprehend this endless run-on sentence.

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: MMario
Date: 21 Jun 00 - 03:37 PM

well - forecast says sunny on Saturday....but based on the last couple of weeks weather I'm planning on bringing a bunch of gopher wood and practice my measureing in cubits.

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 21 Jun 00 - 03:55 PM

Mike: Contemporary "folkish" is fine with us! The emphasis is on songs with good choruses for all the rest of us folks to sing along on, regardles of source or antiquity. The singing's the thing. See you there!

Sandy

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: kendall
Date: 21 Jun 00 - 04:10 PM

I have had a change in plans. I wont be bringing my motor home after all. I'm downsizing to a conversion van. Look for a white conversion van in camping space #227.

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: Mini Me
Date: 21 Jun 00 - 04:29 PM

Dear Sandy, I'll look forward to meeting you and the rest of the " Mudcatters " and I'll bring my voice. Mike

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: kendall
Date: 21 Jun 00 - 09:46 PM

I'm having a hellava battle with laryngitis, but, I can listen.

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 21 Jun 00 - 11:22 PM

Dammit, Kendall, leave Larry N. Gitus at home! Take your zinc lozenges and be ready to sing with us Friday night.

Sandy

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: Midchuck
Date: 22 Jun 00 - 07:26 AM

"Where's the princess?" cried the King!

"She's in bed with laryngitis!"

"Hasn't that Greek bastard left yet?"

(portion of a recital from my college days.)

Peter.

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: PoohBear
Date: 22 Jun 00 - 08:42 AM

Midchuck,

What's the rest of that recital? And which college did you learn it at? Guess I went to the wrong place for schooling.

Might make a good song.....

Cheers!

PoohBear

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: MMario
Date: 22 Jun 00 - 12:28 PM

Current weather forecast... Friday : Mostly sunny. Less humid. Highs near 80.

Friday Night :Clear. Lows 50 to 55.

Saturday : Partly cloudy. Highs 80 to 85.

Sunday : Partly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms. Lows in the mid 60s and highs in the lower 80s.

Subject: RE: BS: mudcatters at old songs
From: Marymac90
Date: 22 Jun 00 - 01:24 PM

Are any of you 'catters who will be at Old Songs docs or nurses? I have a friend coming who is on an IV antibiotic, and he might need some help. If i knew who you were ahead of time, I might be able to help him a little more. My email is [e-mail] Please email me if any of you are medical folks who might be able to help my friend. He is VERY determined to come. Thanks.

Marymac