Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll

Subject: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Wesley S
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 01:40 PM

I spend the majority of my time listening to acoustic music. And I would guess that a large portion of Mudcatters do the same thing. But every once and a while after a couple of weeks of listening to Doc Watson or Mississippi John Hurt I need to listen to something louder.

Esp if it's been a frustrating day at work I'm a lot more prone to crank out something with a loud guitar on it. Almost like a form of therapy. The Rolling Stones, Aerosmith, the Smithereens, Prince, Storyville or some Motown are just what I need to take the edge off of the day. So I admit it - I still listen to rock and roll sometimes.

Anyone else ? What's in your CD player after a hard day ? Or a good day ?

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: wysiwyg
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 01:59 PM

Here's where I think I have an advantage in my choice of "specialty genre" both as a listener and as a performer-- ALL the styles exist, within gospel. So I sort my music by title, not artist-- and thus I have a never-ending variety of styles to enjoy.

~S~

Subject: texas shuffle
From: GUEST,paulw
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 01:59 PM

like you, my main interest is acoustic music, however there is a bar band in austin called the resentments. (these guys all have their own bands and play together just on sunday nights) there is something about their groove that really resonates with me.

paul

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Wesley S
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 02:04 PM

Paul - Isn't Stephen Bruton with that group ? Bruton is from Ft Worth - a great guitar and mandolin player - he's played with Bonnie Raitt and produced Geoff Muldaur's newest CD.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: GUEST,Kim C no cookie
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 02:04 PM

Tom Petty, the GooGoo Dolls, Train, Uncle Kracker.............

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Damon
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 02:14 PM

Kings of Leon, Metallica, The 45s, Larry McLaughlin, The Dubliners,
Nick Cave, Beth Gibbons....no guilt here Wes!

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: GUEST,Martin Gibson
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 02:23 PM

Today there is a fine line as to what can be called rock & roll and what has now been termed "Americana."

As one who has followed American country music for 40 years and considers himself a historian on the topic (as well a musician) much of what was considered rock & roll has now merged with country music to form the Americana genre. Rock acts such as John Mellencamp, Sheryl Crow, ZZ Top, and even Bruce Springsteen now are widely accepted and embraced by the country music community, it's media, and it's listeners. Realistically, there was always a tie between country and rock from Elvis and the whole Sun records and rockabilly era of Johnny Cash, Carl Perkins, Bill Haley through George Jones, Waylon Jennings, The Byrds, Burrito Bros., other Gram Parsons influences, Allman Brothers, Marshall Tucker, and the whole Southern rock segment.

So why do I bring this up? Because American rock & roll, country music, Americana, and folk music are really all one and the same. Now I know some of you warbling folkies out there will probably differ with me, but at this point a song like Heartbreak Hotel is just as much an American folksong today as is anything by Stephen Foster.

So what the hell are you feeling guilty about?

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Rasener
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 02:33 PM

Don't laugh now, but I am listening to the greatest hits of Lonnie Donegan.
This man's music makes me happy, so does Rock N Roll (Buddy Holly, Eddy Cochran, Little Richard, Gene Vincent, Johnny Kid and Pirates and so on and so forth, and Trad Jazz

I have lots of favourite music, depending on my mood.

Led Zeppelin, ZZ Top, Queen, Roxy Music etc etc

I love almost all of the modern stuff that my kids like. There is some cracking music there.

Classical Music

Sweet, Gary glitter, The Move etc

Country Music

John Mayall and the Blues Breakers, Cream, Eric Clapton

Alanis Morrisette, Edie Bricknell.

Better stop. I just love all types of music including of course Folk Music.

Music makes the world go round. :-)

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 02:42 PM

When the radio is on, if it isn't tuned to National Public Radio (mostly news and talk shows) I have it on the local classical music station, and most of the non-folk music I own is classical, many periods, types, genres, etc.

But I, too, need to crank it up every so often, and then I have a small eclectic mix of popular and rock. Bryan Adams, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Carol King, Rod Stewart, Roy Orbison, Barbra Streisand, EmmyLou Harris, etc.

SRS

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Pete MacGregor
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 02:47 PM

The ultimate is the music I put on 'stun' when doing the washing up.
Little Feat probably gets played more than most.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 02:56 PM

My favourite band of all time are The Amazing Rhythm Aces. They get played a lot. I also have Dire Straits cds at the ready.

Subject: steve bruton
From: paul1149
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 03:10 PM

hi wesley, yep the resentments is basically one of his projects (they are all members of the chapter of aa in austin i am told, hence the name) there is an outcasters recording of them live which imo is excellent, www.outcasters.com or you can get their latest studio offering from texasmusicroundup.com highly recomend them if you are ever in south austin on a sunday night.

cheers paul

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 03:35 PM

So, who's guilty? I listen to what I am in the mood for, whether it's folk, rock, rhythm and blues, soul, jazz, gospel or the older country music. It's misguided to think that acoustic music is purer than electric. I just can't deal with rap and a fair percentage of hip hop.

Jerry

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: wilbyhillbilly
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 03:45 PM

I have a massive collection of all types (last count approx 22000 titles) that I have collected since the fifties and still do.

Luckily, there is such a diverse choice that I play whatever suits my mood at the time, but I must admit being partial to Lonnie Donegan when I want cheering up.

Van Morrison is another, and recently alas, I seem to have gone back into the Beach Boys!!, something to do with a TV advert thats running here (UK) at the moment, AH, such sweet memories of my youth.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Wesley S
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 04:14 PM

The Beach Boys were the very first band I saw at a concert. The opening acts were Chad and Jeremy and The Lovin' Spoonful. I was knee high to a grasshopper at the time.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Peace
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 04:19 PM

I can get off on Bryan Adam's "Summer of '69", love it. Full cranked-to-the-max volume. Seven or eight shots of that and I'm good for a week.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Backstage Manager(inactive)
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 04:38 PM

Paul - Isn't Stephen Bruton with that group ? Bruton is from Ft Worth - a great guitar and mandolin player - he's played with Bonnie Raitt and produced Geoff Muldaur's newest CD.

Stephen Bruton did play guitar on a few selected tracks from two Geoff Muldaur CDs: The Secret Handshake from 1998 and Password from 2000. However, both of those CDs were produced by Geoffry himself.

Geoff has since done two more CDs, Beautiful Isle of Somewhere, a live album released lasy year, and Private Astronomy: A Vision of the Music of Bix Beiderbecke, also released last year. Bruton has no credits on either of those. Private Astronomy was produced by Dick Connette of Last Forever.

Bruton did produce several of Chris Smither's CDs. However, Chris worked with David Goodrich on Train Home, his latest.

Subject: geoff muldaur
From: paul1149
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 04:47 PM

thanks for the feedback wesley, i will have to check out geoff's recordings, i am actually british but there is something in south austin that seems to be calling me, it seems that everytime i thnk i have discovered something new that a like it brings me back to the same cadre of people that hang around cedar creek and tophat like bruton, jon dee graham, jimmy lafave etc

paul

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Wesley S
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 04:57 PM

The best Muldaur recording in my opinion is "Beautiful Isle Of Somewhere". Just him and a nice old 30's era Martin 12 fret slothead. Great stuff.

Subject: nice old 30's era Martin 12 fret slothead
From: paul1149
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 05:09 PM

wesley, are you trying to give me a bad case of gas LOL

its a shame they don't seem to have any sound bites on his site, any idea where i can hear some samples?

paul

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Dave Wynn
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 05:56 PM

I have a custom made Gordon Smith solid that when the mood takes me I plug into my Korg A-7 guitar synth and play loud sustained chords and simple riffs till my ears ring (damn tinitus). Surely others do this once in a while.

Ok...My name is Spot the Dog and I am an aging rock 'n roll junkie.........

Spot

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: GUEST,T-Tone
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 06:55 PM

Good Thread...Yeah Pete I'll second ya on the need for Rock and Roll. Little Feat is a great band, other favorites include, but are not limited to, Old 97s, Black Crows, Jayhawks, Pogues/Popes, Los Lobos, and how about the Pixies and or Frank Black? Throw in a little Led Zep and Stones while your at it.....

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: lady penelope
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 07:16 PM

After bad days when I've just got to get it out.......Queen, Aerosmith and the Wildhearts


TTFN Lady P.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 07:24 PM

I still listen to old Allman Brothers and Grateful Dead regularly, and I'm pretty fond of some of the bands on the jam-band circuit like String Cheese Incident, North Mississippi Allstars, Phish etc.

Anybody got any spare tickets to Bonaroo?

Bruce

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: JenEllen
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 07:31 PM

Ramones, Old 97s, the Strokes, Lemonheads, Concrete Blond, L7, the Clash, and almost any of the 'dead letter bands' (REM, INXS, XTC)...but the guiltiest pleasure of all? I drew the line long ago and refuse to actually purchase one of their albums, but I cannot help but grin and boogie just a lil' bit when I hear Hall and Oates on the radio.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Mooh
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 07:53 PM

Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones, Mountain, Mott The Hoople, Gary Moore, Pretty Things, Faces, Jeff Beck, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull...

It was never much of a stretch for me to get to these groups from church music, campfire songs, folk songs and tunes. Seemed pretty direct as all music is derivative and catagories never occurred to me as a kid until other folks expressed a bias. (Though I don't hesitate to express my anti-rap bias now.)

Peace, Mooh.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 03:54 AM

My collection is mostly jazz and blues,jug & skiffle bands and a little( mostly American) folk but I'm a sucker for early Rock 'n' Roll/real Rhythm 'n' Blues (Fats D., Ray Charles, Carl Perkins, early Elvis,Little Richard, Jerry Lee L., Roy Orbison,Chuck Berry, Everleys, Buddy Holly etc.).
My notorious version of Blue Suede Shoes has led to mass suicide by goat populations throughout Greece and has emptied many a taverna (Herself claims it's emptied whole islands).

RtS
(All shook up)

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Ben Dover
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 04:09 AM

FREE. PAUL KOSSOFF walks on water!

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: matai
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 05:00 AM

Janis Joplin

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Metchosin
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 05:19 AM

JenEllen I feel the same way about Creedance Clearwater as you do about Hall and Oates.

To which I will add as well, a little XTC and The Clash and to get me really cranked, add to the mix, a dollop of Bruce Springsteen and John Cougar Melloncamp, stir in The Who and some old Stones, add just a pinch of Pat Benetar and Linda Ronstadt and top it all off with David Lindley and El Rayo X. This is how I got through the drugery of housework when my kids were small and what I still do now when I need to go elsewhere.

Woohoo! These aren't guilty pleasures, this is also the stuff of life and sometimes ya just gotta dance!

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: JenEllen
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 04:26 PM

Oh! CCR??? I can see that, yup, same deal....

Woohoo! These aren't guilty pleasures, this is also the stuff of life
My uncle used to tell us that Rock'n'Roll was all fighting and f*cking, and that people who didn't like rock, probably weren't any good at either one...LOL That's life!

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Wesley S
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 04:48 PM

The one time I saw CCR they were rather bland. They did all of thier songs exactly like the records - except loud.

Hall and Oates were another story. I overimbibed before the show so all I saw was HallandOatesandHallandOatesandHallandOates. I tried to focus on the Hall and Oates in the center but it didn't work.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: jacqui.c
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 05:38 PM

Almost any music but not rap, modern jazz or a lot of modern classical. Folk seems to take up most of my time at the moment but, being temporarily housebound I managed to watch the whole of Tosca on tape yesterday - absolutely sublime.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: harvey andrews
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 07:29 PM

Buddy Holly, the Crickets, Sonny Curtis, The Everleys...and someone should rediscover Nervous Norvus. It's all about what was playing when you were "at that age". Orbison, Cochran. Oh, and I worked with Joe Brown a few times...he's written some great songs recently.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 07:45 PM

Art of Noise, Cocteau Twins, The Clash, The Pistols, Talking Heads, The Tubes, Free, Led Zep, Pink Floyd, Zappa, Bad Company.....

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: GUEST,Sleepless Dad
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 11:37 PM

How about some James Brown, Sly & the Family Stone, Little Feat, The Allman Bros or even Wars greatest hits CD. Roll down the windows of the van and crank it up just below the level that would produce bleeding ears. That's one way to get the weekend started.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: LadyJean
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 11:55 PM

Back when I was a teeny bopper, listening to AM rock and roll, I like the oldies best, the songs from the fifties and early sixties. One day I had an argument with a DJ named Jeff Christie, and changed channels for good. Jeff Christie's real name was Rush Limbaugh.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 20 Mar 04 - 05:04 AM

To quote my hero, Jim Royle, "Rock 'n' Roll my arse!". Not many R&R names menioned on this thread - lots of soul, country and rock artists but not much real, genuine, unadulterated R&R (with the exception of Harvey's list of course, and one or two others!). Sorry guys, just because it's got a beat doesn't make it Rock 'n' Roll - that ended in 1960. Take it from the guys who grew up with it.

That's not to say though that there isn't a bunch of great performers listed here, just very few Rock 'n' Rollers.

And no-one's mentioned Frankie Lymon & The Teenagers and Dion & The Belmonts.

In my not-always-particularly-humble opinion.

Love & peace,
Johnny

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: fat B****rd
Date: 20 Mar 04 - 07:08 AM

F**k (Hi Ed) Guilty, I'm amassing the greatest Pre-Beatle Elvis collection in Newton Aycliffe. Phew !!

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Mar 04 - 02:48 PM

Johnny, no one so far has said this is about being a purist! Some of these listed performers are rock, others are popular, but the point is they're non-folk. They are Other in terms of our folk persona.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 20 Mar 04 - 04:26 PM

Thread Title - 'Guilty pleasures - Rock and Roll'. It's specific, not a generalisation.

Also I didn't mention the UK R&R greats - Johnny Kidd, Vince Eager, Dickie Pride, Ronnie Wycherley (best known as Billy Fury). Awsome!

Johnny :0)

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Mar 04 - 05:02 PM

Saw Billy Fury at Lewisham theatre very early seventies I think, same bill as Marty Wilde. Seem to remember Billy Fury in skin tight pink satin but it may just have been wishful thinking.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 20 Mar 04 - 05:13 PM

I forgot Marty Wilde! Mea Culpa! Great rocker but not as good looking as his daughter!

And I haven't seen any mention of Gene Vincent and the Blue Caps in this thread (yes I know they were American. Duh!). The Dog's Gonads!

Johnny :0)

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Matt_R
Date: 20 Mar 04 - 05:38 PM

I think it's pretty obvious that I love rock & roll. About 98% of my 400+ CD collection is rock & roll...and about 90% of that is British rock and roll from the 60's to the just-released.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: LadyJean
Date: 20 Mar 04 - 11:06 PM

I spent my last 2 quarters at O.U. in the international dorm. There were two girls in Taiwan across the hall from us. I will always remember waking one morning to "Itsy Bitsy Teenie Weenie Yellow Polka Dot Bikini" in Chinese. It beggars description. My roommate and I rolled over in bed and laughed like loons.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: freda underhill
Date: 20 Mar 04 - 11:11 PM

anyone who loves rock n roll hasn't lived unless theyve heard the greatest band of all times......

THE LOVED ONES

an australian band from the late 60s .......their music was the best.

freda

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Rasener
Date: 21 Mar 04 - 02:14 AM

Strollin'
You never read my post otherwise you would have seen that I mentioned Johnny Kidd and Gene Vincent. Maybe your short term memory retention is failing you. :-) Now what was I saying uhm uhm, uhm oh sod it I have forgotten.

What about Cliff Richard of Move It fame, Freddie Cannon, Chuck Berry, Jerry Lee Lewis, Bill Haley, Olympics, Duane Eddy, Elvis Presley :-), Joe Brown and his Bruvvers, Carl Perkins

I reckon Neil Sedaka also just about creeps in with his wonderful rendition of "I go Ape" oo oo oo oo oo oo oo
Even Bobby Darin was known to do a little bit "Bullmoose"
Brenda lee?

Oh did anybody mention Richie Valens and the Big Bopper.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 21 Mar 04 - 03:35 AM

Sorry les, any-term memory is virtually non-existent nowadays! Great artists all of them, have to say Carl's a bit iffy - maybe Rockabilly but not really R&R! Nevertheless, my old band, 'The Strollers' used to do a couple of his songs and we were a bit on the purist side (played nothing younger than 1961 vintage), so I guess we can let him in! :0)

Incidentally, Joe Brown's still playing and recording - check out his CD 'On A Day Like This', which contains a seriously good version of John Prine's 'That's The Way The World Goes Around'. It's available from Amazon.

Cheers,
Johnny :0)

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 21 Mar 04 - 03:54 AM

My own humble opinion is that the vintage year for popular music, in the UK at least,was 1957 and I've not been much interested in popular music after about 1960, I'm certainly a pre-Beatles man. Like Johnny, I've seen Joe Brown a couple of times in recent years, he's a much underrated guitarist (and plays many other instruments as well).

RtS
(thank you very much)

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: alanabit
Date: 21 Mar 04 - 04:08 AM

Stones, Beatles, Kinks, Dylan, The Who and loads of other stuff. I saw Ray Davies playing solo a few years ago. He was telling stories between songs and was very entertaining. It struck me that he was becoming more like a folk singer. As there were always folk and blues roots in his music, I wondered whether things had come the full circle.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 21 Mar 04 - 04:08 AM

I'm with you Roger (what's up mate, can't you lie in on Sundays either?!!!). I'd allow up to '60 as being the Golden Era of R&R - the real groundbreaking stuff. If it hadn't happened there'd never have been any Beatles, Stones, Led Zep, Genesis, Eminem, Boyzone (there's a thought!) or any of 'em.

I listen to, and enjoy, music from all genres and all periods (yes, including Eminem whom I regard as a superlative wordsmith) but I always come back to the joy and simplicity of the old R&R artists. Rock On!

Johnny :0)

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Rasener
Date: 21 Mar 04 - 04:42 AM

My top 3 rock songs 1950 -1961 era that I never get fed up of are :-

Pistol Packin Mama - Gene Vincent
Shaking all over - Johnny Kid and The Pirates
What'd I Say - Jerry Lee Lewis

Good little website here.
http://shakingallover.cjb.net/

A particular song that I like very very very much, is

If I were a carpenter - Bobby Darin

What are yours 1950 - 1961

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 21 Mar 04 - 04:50 AM

In no particular order:-

Pistol-Packin' Mama (Gene Vincent) - memories of Summer hols in Mablethorpe and a lass from Nottingham whose name I've forgotten but not the snoggin' in the sand-dunes!

Great Balls Of Fi-Yer - Jerry LL

Smoke Gets In Your Eyes - The Platters

Juvenile Delinquent - Frankie Lymon and The Teenagers

Bye Bye Johnny - Chuck Berry

Peggy Sue Got Married (The Late Great Charles Hardin Holley)

(Sigh !!!!)

Johnny :0)

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Rasener
Date: 21 Mar 04 - 05:24 AM

Bet you can sing If I was a carpenter very nicely!

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 21 Mar 04 - 05:31 AM

Used to but not any more. I have it classed in the same league as Streets of London - great song then but passe now.
JB :0)

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 21 Mar 04 - 05:36 AM

Used to do Gordie Lightfoot's 'Rainy Day People' and 'If You Could Read My Mind' too. Now there's a couple of songs!
:0)

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Peace
Date: 21 Mar 04 - 05:37 PM

I'm partial to Christian Island. Lightfoot has written so many that speak to the Canadian spirit--kinda like a 'Tom Thompson and the Group of Seven', but in words and music.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Rasener
Date: 22 Mar 04 - 04:26 AM

Shane Fenton and The Fentones

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Rasener
Date: 22 Mar 04 - 04:46 AM

Bobby Angelo and the Tuxedos - Baby Sitting

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Rasener
Date: 22 Mar 04 - 05:03 AM

Here's a little snippet related to Bobby Angelo and the Tuxedo's.

The Innocents      

Personnel:
DAVID BROWN bs A B
ROGER M BROWN lead gtr A
COLIN GRIFFIN gtr, sax A B
DON GROOM drms A B
BILLY KUY lead gtr B


This Manchester beat band, were formed by Roger M. Brown at the request of Robert Stigwood/Mike Berry. Put together as Berry's replacement backing band for The Outlaws, Roger M. Brown, Dave Brown and Colin Giffin had earlier played in The Tuxedos, who'd had a hit with Baby Sittin' backing Bobby Angelo. Don Groom was the original drummer with The Outlaws.

As The Innocents they played with John Leyton, Jet Harris, Mike Berry, Gene Vincent, The Four Seasons, B. Bumble and The Stingers, Johnny Burnette, The Kinks, Hollies, Moody Blues, Yardbirds, Beatles and The Rolling Stones. When their management company folded, Dave Brown and Colin Giffin formed The End, which later evolved into Tucky Buzzard.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: fat B****rd
Date: 22 Mar 04 - 06:02 AM

Shane Fenton (Alvin Stardust) and the Fentones was the fist "proper" group I ever saw at The Cafe Dansant, Cleethorpes. I was about 12 and had to tell my parents I was at an all-boy party !

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Rasener
Date: 22 Mar 04 - 06:54 AM

So you wasn't a moody guy then :-)

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Mr Happy
Date: 22 Mar 04 - 07:45 AM

no need for any guilt feelings.....imo, folk music is the stuff everybody knows- not just folkies.

as a solo perf. my repertoire includes lots of trad, old pop songs, blues, soul, tunes old & new & so on.

Along with my new group 'Senior Moments' we do all above + some c&w, bluegass, & a capella signing.

+ covers of stones,smiths,david bowie,bleatles,status quo to name just a few.

if folk music gets stuck in the nineteenth century & prior - it'll remain a minority exclusive sport- sheer anathema of its name!

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: fat B****rd
Date: 22 Mar 04 - 05:56 PM

Nor now, Villan (I think). The Fentones wore lime green suits and white shoes. Happy Days.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Mooh
Date: 22 Mar 04 - 11:35 PM

Oh okay...and Sweetheart Of The Rodeo by the Byrds. Mooh.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Chris in Wheaton
Date: 23 Mar 04 - 11:40 AM

Bobby Darin songs are great for group singing-
like "Things" (great response chorus) and "Dream Lover"
Chris

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 24 Mar 04 - 09:53 AM

"The blues had a baby
And they called it Rock and Roll"
Brownie McGhee

RtS

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: GUEST,Arkie
Date: 24 Mar 04 - 11:23 AM

When I need a change of pace I turn to Bob Seger, Terry Allen, Gilbert & Sullivan, and Mark Knopfler and thanks to my son have developed some interest in Coldplay.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: wysiwyg
Date: 03 Jun 07 - 11:11 AM

David Lindley. David effing why did I wait to discover him as a headliner LINDLEY!

Thank you, YouTube.

~S~

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 03 Jun 07 - 02:05 PM

The interesting thing is, why do you feel guilty about it? Do you feel a need to have your tastes 'rubber-stamped' by a 'higher authority'?

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: wysiwyg
Date: 03 Jun 07 - 02:20 PM

Shimrod,

Are you addressing a whole threadful of posters who use this thread to talk about non-folk music they like?

Or just me?

Speaking for myself, "reverse" compliments are quite the norm in the local culture where Hardi and I live. Example:

Waitress: Everything OK?
Customer, grinning: Awful!

Waitress leaves with grin of pride-- she made the side dishes herself AND she's spotted you as a fellow local, a pleasure in the midst of tourist season.


People here hate compliments delivered straight-- makes them feel like you're trying to make 'em "puffed up." So I posted in the thread where I remembered people had listed favorite artists. Now it's the subject of attempted religion-trolling, go figure! :~)

Have a nice day.

~Susan

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: alanabit
Date: 03 Jun 07 - 03:46 PM

I don't feel guilty about it. I still like my rock and roll. I have been listening to "Waterfall" by The Stone Roses. Superb lyrics and wonderful harmonies. It's pop all right, but beautifully crafted.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Joe_F
Date: 03 Jun 07 - 09:15 PM

I have plenty of guilty pleasures, but not rock and roll. It is all pain to me.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: alanabit
Date: 04 Jun 07 - 04:18 AM

Bring on Madame Whiplash, eh?

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 04 Jun 07 - 06:07 AM

WISIWYG,

I was addressing Wesley S. - who started this thread and used the word "Guilty" in the title.

Do you feel guilty about anything, I wonder?

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: PoppaGator
Date: 04 Jun 07 - 02:33 PM

I no longer feel the least bit of guilt about any of my tastes, musical or otherwise. However, in my youth, I went through several different phases during which I felt obligations to "like" certain categories of music while disparaging others.

For a period of time in my late teens and early 20s, I consciously rejected whole categories of music that I had enjoyed throughout my previous life, in favor of a rather narrowly defined selection of "authentic" folk and blues styles. Not that the object of my newfound enthusiasm was at all unworthy ~ the stuff was and is wonderful ~ but there was really never any reason to reject the entire remaining portion of the musical spectrum.

Only as certain segments of the "folk" world began to morph into "folk rock" and electrified blues and psychedelia did I allow myself to resume feeling good about enjoying good performances of all categories of music.

One observation, something I find interesting and quite telling: the popular "soul" music of the 1960s ~ material that I originally found to be a bit "outside the pale" and that I briefly resisted enjoying before opening my tastes back up ~ has now become the object of quasi-scholarly interest and snob-appeal to a younger generation. Their interest in the output of the J&M Studio in 1950s New Orleans, Stax/Volt of 1960s Memphis, etc., is very much like the interest that some young folks in the mid-60s had for blues and/or country field recordings from the 1920s and 30s.

My older son and his friends, for example, reject much of the current pop music marketed towards their generation (quite rightly, in my opinion, by the way, but that's another story) and cultivate a nearly-obsessive interest in R&B and soul music from the 50s and 60s. They know much more than I do about, say, Sam Cooke's family life, the origins of the F.A.M.E. studio in Muscle Shoals, etc., etc.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Rasener
Date: 04 Jun 07 - 03:02 PM

>>The Cafe Dansant, Cleethorpes<<

Hey FB if you get to read this again, Dave & Julie Evardson did a song called "The cafe Dansant" and they talk and sing about going to it at Cleethorpes.

Maybe you should come and see them at Grimsby Folk Club one day :-)

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Jun 07 - 03:42 PM

Les, I'll be on touch re The Evardson's song when I'm back on my own computer. ATB from Charlie fB in Dunfermline.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Rasener
Date: 04 Jun 07 - 03:48 PM

Oh I had forgotten that you were up there now Charlie. How far can you go. :-)
How's life up there Jimmy?
Les

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Scorpio
Date: 05 Jun 07 - 08:04 AM

When narrowmindedness is applied to music, the result is never good. There's a whole world of fantastic music out there. My son has introduced me to all kinds of great stuff I never would have heard. I have always tried to do the same for him, so it's fair enough.
So even though I love folk and blues, I appreciate quality in music wherever I find it.
Rock music is going through a renaissance these days, giving us more variety than at any time since the 60's. The extraordinary talents of bands like Tool impress the hell out of me. So does Faiz Ali Faiz, the Pakistani Sufi singer. Two rather different musical genres, but who cares? Both brilliant.
Just because you have a preference for folk music, should there be no room on your CD shelves for Aretha Franklin? Jimi Hendrix? Spike Jones? Beethoven? Django Reinhardt? We are lucky to be able to hear them. Soak it all up. Freak the neighbours with Frank Zappa on full volume while you leap around the room. Then go practice four-part harmonies with your bluegrass group. It's all music, and thank God for it.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Scoville
Date: 05 Jun 07 - 11:16 AM

All right, I'll come clean, but I won't apologize. If I listened to folk all the time, I might run the risk of getting burned out on it, and that would be a bad thing. I'm a pretty simple person but I've got a few more moods than just "folk".

I've still got a few contradance, Chieftains, and folk-revival [pop-folk] albums, and the Golden Ring/New Golden Ring set. Other than that, mixed in with my growing collection of blues, Cajun, roots country, and old-time fiddle you'll find:

Pop & rock
Buddy Holly & the Crickets
Everly Brothers (four CD's worth)
Del Shannon
Colin Gilmore: Jimmie Dale's son and a major Buddy Holly obsessor. I think this is what Buddy would have sounded like had he been a Gen X-er.
Ricky Nelson
the Band
Allman Brothers
Creedence Clearwater Revival
the Eagles
Battlefield Band: Folk and rock!
Little Richard
Fats Domino
and I once owned an entire cassette tape of the Shirelles. Yikes.

Nashville country
Randy Travis (sorry, but the man does great country gospel)

"Americana", whatever that means
Gillian Welch
Cowboy Junkies: Good stuff for depressed college students.
Son Volt: Also good stuff for depressed college students.
Skid Mountain Boys: [See above]
Old Crow Medicine Show (well, one CD. I don't actually like them that much(
the Devil Makes Three: Old-time noir.

Swing/Jazz
Hot Club of Cow Town
Scott Biram: blues/country/punk amalgam. When he's in the mood, he does this Woody Guthrie-channeling thing that is almost scary. I listened to him a lot when I hated my job.
the Weary Boys: loud, sloppy, retro-country.
Wayne Hancock: the master of rockabilly revival. I mostly go to watch his lead guitarist, Eddie Biebel, but the whole show is good.

Texas & alt-country
Townes Van Zandt
Steve Earle
Robert Earl Keen
Lyle Lovett (as close as I get to 'easy listening')
Lucinda Williams

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Scoville
Date: 05 Jun 07 - 11:20 AM

Crapola: HTML failure

Swing/Jazz
the Red Stick Ramblers: Cajun swing. Amazing musicians.

and I think I stuck ragtime in there, too. Scott Joplin, James Scott, etc.


Scott Biram, et. al., should have been under the heading "Loud and Obnoxious". A very small part of me needs some psychobilly every once in awhile.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Scoville
Date: 05 Jun 07 - 11:21 AM

Christ: Scott Biram.

I give up. No more code for me today.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: M.Ted
Date: 05 Jun 07 - 12:59 PM

Just a random slice from my iTunes:
I
t's Tight Like That
What's That Smells Like Fish
My Coloring Book (Kitty Kallen, not Babs)
Hendrix' Like a Rolling Stone
9,999,999 Tears(both Razzy Bailey and Dickie Lee versions)
Go West
Heaven Will Protect the Working Girl
How Many Biscuits Can You Eat?
Cruel to Be Kind
Enjoy the Silence
five versions of Guantanamera
Cha Cha Hua Hua
Satie's Gymnopedes
Heartaches by the Number
Ten versions of Faded Love
The Homes of Donegal
Brejeiro
Sorry, Robbie
Concerto for Violin No. 2 (Pagannini)
Acoustic Piano version of G'n'R's November Rain
South Central Rain
There She Goes Again(five versions)
Toads of the Short Forest
They'll Always Be an England
Desiree
Baubles, Bangles, and Beads
Such Great Heights
There are Fairies in the Bottom of Our Garden

I make no apologies for my tastes, but I am not allowed to pick music for parties--

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: PoppaGator
Date: 05 Jun 07 - 02:23 PM

Nice, M.Ted ~ nothing ig not eclectic!

I'm familiar with "96 Tears" (by ? and the Mysterians) ~ and once sang it as one of my featured solos with the PTA Oldies-but-Goodies band ~ but not 9,999,999 of them...

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: M.Ted
Date: 05 Jun 07 - 05:03 PM

9,999,999 Tears is one of the best contemporary country songs ever! It's a 60's/70's country song--RB wrote it and recorded it in 1966, backed by Billy Joel, Joe South, and Freddy Weller-- Dicky Lee made it a hit in 1976. You'd probably recognize it, if you heard it. Send me your email, and I'll pass it on.

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Jun 07 - 09:06 PM

LaMarca did a great "Guilty Pleasures" workshop at the Getaway last year. She closed it with a rousing rendition of the entire "American Pie."
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Guilty Pleasures - Rock and Roll
From: Big Mick
Date: 05 Jun 07 - 09:37 PM

AAAAAHHHHHHEEEEEMMMMMMM, Mr. Offer, but that workshop was co-hosted by the magnificent Ms. LaMarca, and the shameless hanger on, Mr. Big Mick Lane. ***snerk***. And I make no bones about the fact that I love much of the many genre's that have been lumped together under the heading of Rock and Roll. Good music is good music, no matter where it comes from.

One aside from that workshop. Mary asked me to lead it off. I did "Turn the Page". One of the attendees came up and just had to know who wrote it. I told him it was by Bob Seger, and he went "oh" and walked away as if disheartened. ***laugh out loud***. Still makes me chuckle.

Mick