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Vocal appreciation from the audience

Jack Campin 06 Dec 20 - 04:11 AM
The Sandman 06 Dec 20 - 04:45 AM
Steve Shaw 06 Dec 20 - 07:24 AM
Pete from seven stars link 06 Dec 20 - 07:59 AM
Steve Shaw 06 Dec 20 - 08:22 AM
Pete from seven stars link 06 Dec 20 - 09:26 AM
GUEST,Observer 06 Dec 20 - 10:29 AM
Jack Campin 06 Dec 20 - 11:10 AM
Jack Campin 06 Dec 20 - 11:52 AM
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Subject: Vocal appreciation from the audience
From: Jack Campin
Date: 06 Dec 20 - 04:11 AM

From another forum, about Korean sanjo music:

'Chuimsae is a form of exclamation during Korean traditional music. The gosu drummer and the audience make exclamations such as Eolsigu! or Jalhanda! ), which mean Yippee! and Good! in Korean. The chuimsae connects musician and audience and creates a cheerful atmosphere.

Chuimsae makes performance more enjoyable. With chuimsae, the music can be more active and vivid. In pansori, a good audience should make chuimsae. While in many styles of Western music the audience's sound is considered noise, the participation of audience is important in Korean music. The musician and audience can interact with chuimsae. The chuimsae is intuitive, and audience members express their feeling, impression, and agreement while listening to music. In addition, audiences make chuimsae when they feel completely enchanted by the music. In order to use chuimsae appropriately, people should have a knowledge of Pansori and ability in making impressions.'

Sounds familiar!


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Subject: RE: Vocal appreciation from the audience
From: The Sandman
Date: 06 Dec 20 - 04:45 AM

thankyou, Jack, that is interesting, it is possibly similiar to people saying good man and good girl to encourage irish unaccompanied singers


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Subject: RE: Vocal appreciation from the audience
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Dec 20 - 07:24 AM

In Mozart's time is was the done thing to clap and cheer even in the middle of movements. By the 1970s in classical concerts you were considered a buffoon to be silently snarled at if you so much as indulged in polite applause between movements. "Huh, didn't he realise that this is a SYMPHONY, not four separate tunes!" Good to hear a lot more cheering and clapping coming back. Let's unstuffify music!


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Subject: RE: Vocal appreciation from the audience
From: Pete from seven stars link
Date: 06 Dec 20 - 07:59 AM

We’ve seen it in gospel where the congregation will clap and shout during songs , and jazz , in appreciation of a solo during a bands performance


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Subject: RE: Vocal appreciation from the audience
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Dec 20 - 08:22 AM

Yeah, that jazz solo thing gets my goat a bit. It doesn't seem very spontaneous to me, more like "it's what we cognoscenti do..."


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Subject: RE: Vocal appreciation from the audience
From: Pete from seven stars link
Date: 06 Dec 20 - 09:26 AM

Sometimes I guess it’s just the expected polite thing to do (and that’s not a bad thing imo ) but it might be more enthusiastic when the solo is more exceptional . I’ve done it sometimes after a blues guitar solo


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Subject: RE: Vocal appreciation from the audience
From: GUEST,Observer
Date: 06 Dec 20 - 10:29 AM

Wasn't there a "mechanical" difference in the instruments of today and those used by the orchestra in Mozart's time? Particularly with the French Horn and back in Mozart's day the Horn player had to swap bits of the horn. There was a particular virtuoso horn player who Mozart used to try and catch out, this sort of duel was known to the audience who were known to burst into applause when the horn player managed to "pull off" the changes required to play the piece of music.


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Subject: RE: Vocal appreciation from the audience
From: Jack Campin
Date: 06 Dec 20 - 11:10 AM

There is a large chunk of Bonnie Hite's book on Indian classical music devoted to this. It was a cognoscenti thing - you needed to know enough about the music to make an intelligent "Yippee!" when the players did something genuinely remarkable.


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Subject: RE: Vocal appreciation from the audience
From: Jack Campin
Date: 06 Dec 20 - 11:52 AM

I meant Bonnie Wade.


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