BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?

Subject: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: GUEST,MegaNerd
Date: 18 Dec 04 - 11:18 AM

I say Kirk, because he always got the girls. Well, almost always. My buddy says Spock, because he was so logical. Gimme a break! Logical is not cool! Let's face it, if you want to party and have a great time, who are you gonna invite, Kirk or Spock!

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: GUEST,ranger1
Date: 18 Dec 04 - 11:24 AM

Kirk. Definitely.

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: catspaw49
Date: 18 Dec 04 - 11:26 AM

Hawk, this is completely pathetic although you have chosen a guest name to match the thread. Who cares which one of these two to invite? They are both prime candidates for Pivot Man in a Circle Jerk. I did however pose your query to the patients at the Neil Young Center for the Terminally Screwed and they chose Captain Video. So there you are. What can I say?

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: GUEST,MegaNerd
Date: 18 Dec 04 - 11:30 AM

You're one of those people who doesn't get it, aren't you? I pity you. For me you don't even exist. In fact, I'm surprised I even bothered to comment on what you just said.

Now back to the issue at hand. You have a Christmas party coming up. Who ya gonna invite? Kirk or Spock?

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: mack/misophist
Date: 18 Dec 04 - 11:37 AM

Spock. Without a doubt. Shallow life forms who don't understand why are probably incapable of understanding. And Spock will no doubt be a key witness at Kirk's court martial.

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: catspaw49
Date: 18 Dec 04 - 11:37 AM

Give it up Hawkster. Only a Mega-Nerd would invite either one of them....unless of course he was having a Circle Jerk as mentioned before.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: catspaw49
Date: 18 Dec 04 - 11:42 AM

Come to think of it, you could invite Major Tom, psychotic astronaut, as well and they could have their OWN Circle Jerk!!! That could work out for you Hawk......AND you could sell the videotape on e-Bay!

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: CarolC
Date: 18 Dec 04 - 12:09 PM

What's a "pivot man"?

Spock, definitely. Nerds are incredibly sexy, while cheesy people like Kirk are sometimes funny, but never sexy.

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Dec 04 - 12:23 PM

So tell me, Spaw, how many people are required for a circle jerk? I figure you must be some kind of authority on that subject. :-)

Me, I would be sure to invite both Kirk AND Spock. They complement each other extremely well. I'd also invite McCoy and Scotty for comic relief.

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: catspaw49
Date: 18 Dec 04 - 12:30 PM

Nerds may be sexy, but nerds like Spock are something else. His Vulcan heritage makes him susceptible to the curse of all Vulcans, a fact well known by their enemies. If you twist the tips of a Vulcan's ears in different directions at the same time, their gonads explode and while this may make his love partner think he is Thor, God of Thunder, the Vulcan is generally mortally wounded. The few who do survive are left nothing but a lifetime of servitude where they are forced to watch guys like Kirk butt-fuck Tribbles. Not a pretty sight.............

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Megan L
Date: 18 Dec 04 - 01:14 PM

what a bunch of auld has beens ye wid need tae remember tae bring thier zimmers and inconto pads. Now if you want real class Jean Luc Piccard.

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: CarolC
Date: 18 Dec 04 - 01:19 PM

Is that why they have that hand sign where the index and middle fingers, and the ring and pinkie fingers are arranged in the form of a V? A reminder to Vulcans to keep their ears pointed straight up?

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: catspaw49
Date: 18 Dec 04 - 01:52 PM

Yes it is Carol....a very astute observation!!! It's funny really......For all of their brilliance and logic, there are some missing synapses here and there in their short term memory. One Vulcan suffering from psoriasis thoughtlessly twizzled his ears while being beamed aboard a starship. The molecular structures came undone as a result and the only parts of him that arrived on the teleporter platform were his balls which exploded 12 seconds later, rupturing the hull of the starship which caused it to crash with the loss of the entire crew. Tragic story................

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Dec 04 - 01:52 PM

no, that's a result of super glue in zero gravity

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: catspaw49
Date: 18 Dec 04 - 01:55 PM

...........Well..............that too I suppose...............

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: SINSULL
Date: 18 Dec 04 - 02:53 PM

I'd invite Cletus.

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: kendall
Date: 18 Dec 04 - 03:24 PM

Uhura

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 18 Dec 04 - 03:26 PM

Spok of course, he could flap his ears to keep cool.
Best wishes.

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Nerd
Date: 18 Dec 04 - 03:33 PM

Awww, CarolC, I didn't know you cared! (giggle!)

Seriously, I'd invite Spock, for the exact opposite reason as Mega-Nerd. Kirk would be furiously hitting on every girl in the room, and he'd probably score with two or three of them. Spock would get all the nerd-loving girls worked up, but would have no interest in scoring with any of them...at which point they'd look to some of us other nerds for sympathy.

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: catspaw49
Date: 18 Dec 04 - 03:35 PM

Out of curiosity, why would you be interested in anyone who was interested in Kirk?

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: CarolC
Date: 18 Dec 04 - 04:10 PM

Yes, Nerd, but how do we know you are really a nerd? You could be a poseur who is just out to pick up chicks.

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Dec 04 - 05:49 PM

Christ!! If I'd only known back then that chicks found nerds sexy! Argh! I must've missed some grand opportunities there.

Spock unquestionably was pursued and fantasized about by a great many human females, but I thought that was merely because he appeared to be unattainable...and unflappable. (not referring to his ears when I say that)

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Dec 04 - 06:02 PM

I'm with Kendall.

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Dec 04 - 06:07 PM

Yes, well, I would invite Uhura also, no question.

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Kaleea
Date: 19 Dec 04 - 01:53 AM

Spock is cooler, as he can play the Vulcan harp & sing. Who wants to hear Kirk sing? Puh-leeeeeese!   Spock's ears are wonderful ice breakers. Beautiful women love him cause they wanna try to score with him. Duh. It's a no brainer.

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: jacqui.c
Date: 19 Dec 04 - 04:09 AM

I'm with Megan - Jean Luc, definitely.

Of the other two it would have to be Spock - at least he could hold an intelligent conversation, and think of the challenge.......

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: kendall
Date: 19 Dec 04 - 06:02 AM

Oh, well, if we are talking about intelligent conversation, I'd invite Spock.

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: kindaloupehackenweez
Date: 19 Dec 04 - 07:43 AM

Spock of course: I can only imagine what it would be like to be without emotions. It would be like being without termoil, stress,
anger. Humm also would be without joy, caring, loving.

Spock still. Check out the ears:

Kindaloupehackenweez..PEACE.

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: gnu
Date: 19 Dec 04 - 07:53 AM

cc... "You could be a poseur who is just out to pick up chicks. "

Poseur ? Pusseur ? (Sorry. Couldn't resist.)

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Crystal
Date: 19 Dec 04 - 08:02 AM

Spock definatly.

BTW True nerds writh Star Trek Fan fiction!

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Dec 04 - 08:04 AM

Well, well. Spock has pulled into a decisive lead here! Here are the stats, thus far...

Official vote count:

Kirk - 3
Spock - 9

And in further (unofficial) voting:

Uhura - 3
Jean-Luc Picard - 2
Scotty - 1
Bones - 1
Cletus - 1

Cletus?...who the hell is Cletus???

Looks like MegaNerd is in for a major disappointment here, as Kirk goes down to a miserable defeat and Spock holds the crown for Intergalactic Party Animal Extraordinaire!

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Dec 04 - 08:13 AM

That last vote from Crystal raises Spock to 10 votes overall!

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: GUEST,Bruce Baillie
Date: 19 Dec 04 - 08:35 AM

...Neither, they were both Americans!

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Crystal
Date: 19 Dec 04 - 08:37 AM

What about the cute Doctor in Deep Space 9? Is it too late for me to change my vote?

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: gnu
Date: 19 Dec 04 - 10:10 AM

Both Yanks !!?? Nay, nay. Kirk was, is and always will be a Canuck. If it's a PARTAAAAY, Kirk is the obvious choice.

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: GUEST,MegaNerd
Date: 19 Dec 04 - 10:16 AM

Oh! Oh! Oh! Another vote for Kirk! Keep 'em coming! Kirk is my hero and I will be really enraged if he loses out here.

Kirk is on a roll now, I feel it. He is going to win.

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Mr Red
Date: 19 Dec 04 - 10:28 AM

the phone !

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: CarolC
Date: 19 Dec 04 - 02:26 PM

Was Kirk a Canuck? (I know Shatner is, but we're talking about Captain Kirk).

Anyway, Spock was most definitely not an USAn. He was a Vulcan. That's almost as good as being a Canuck.

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 19 Dec 04 - 02:59 PM

Not a subject I wish to Clingon to!

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 19 Dec 04 - 03:19 PM

Kirk . . . but I was (am) exceptionally fond of Scotty. He had better taste in booze ("it's green") and could fix almost anything using the equivalent of duct tape, bubblegum and bailing twine.

Linn

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: mack/misophist
Date: 19 Dec 04 - 07:56 PM

Bailing Twine? What kind of farm did you grow up on?

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Dec 04 - 09:15 PM

Hmmm...Kirk is making a small comeback, but Spock is still way ahead.

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Nerd
Date: 19 Dec 04 - 09:22 PM

Sorry, folks, Kirk is from Iowa.

See, I really AM a nerd...

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Dec 04 - 09:29 PM

Kirk is now up to 6 votes!

Kirk - 6
Spock - 9

Uhura - 3
Jean-Luc Picard - 2
Scotty - 1
Bones - 1
Cletus (?) - 1

(We have determined that Cletus is/was a very, very minor Ferengi character in the Next Generation episode # 57. He attempted to have sex with Doctor Crusher (inflamed by the sight of a woman in clothing), and got punched out by her. He then attempted to beam himself out of the ship but got the coordinates confused and materialized inside the warp drive. Bye, bye, Cletus!)

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: BusyBee Paul
Date: 20 Dec 04 - 03:31 PM

At least none of you guys mentioned Seven of nine - mind you, she wouldn't make you cooler so perhaps that's why!.

My vote goes for the hologram Doctor in DS9 or Data, at least you can switch them off!.

Deirdre

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Dec 04 - 03:57 PM

We have recorded an official vote for Data. Votes for characters whom people cannot remember the names of will go uncounted.

Kirk - 6
Spock - 9

Uhura - 3
Jean-Luc Picard - 2
Scotty - 1
Bones - 1
Cletus (?) - 1
Data - 1

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: GUEST,thirty eight of double D
Date: 20 Dec 04 - 04:07 PM

I'll vote for seven of nine!

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Dec 04 - 04:15 PM

Okay, well, "Seven of Nine" is a real name, I guess.

2 official votes for Seven of Nine, then.

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Burke
Date: 20 Dec 04 - 06:32 PM

Give me Scotty as well!

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Cluin
Date: 21 Dec 04 - 03:03 AM

Captain Pike


*BEEEEEEP*

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: CharlieA
Date: 21 Dec 04 - 04:55 AM

Jean-Luc for sure!

or maybe Dr Bashir from DS9 - oh and the hologram doc was Voyager - and didn't have a name (sorry I'll crawl back in my box now!)

Hugs

Cxxx

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: gnu
Date: 21 Dec 04 - 06:06 AM

Well, if we can vote for others, surely we can vote for more than one. Q would liven things up.

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Crystal
Date: 21 Dec 04 - 07:43 AM

Dr Bashir! That was his name!
I'll vote for him because he was cute!

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: GUEST,Busybee Paul mat Work
Date: 21 Dec 04 - 08:18 AM

Thanks for the correction, I was trying to think of Dr Bashir and then got my series confused with the Hologram Doc (well, it was past my bed time).

Also glad I hadn't forgotten the Hologram Dr's name - I didn't think he had one.

Live long and prosper everyone!

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Pauline L
Date: 21 Dec 04 - 07:57 PM

Spock is ultracool. He took second place at the All Vulcan harp competition. (His father took first place.) I'd invite Spock and maybe Scotty, too. I'd like to hear them play a duet on Vulcan harp and bagpipes.

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Dec 04 - 10:51 PM

No one mentioned Reiker!!

And there is two of him - thanks to a transporter accident.

Wooooo!

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Dec 04 - 11:20 PM

Righto. The election battle storms boldly on...although Kirk and Spock are the official candidates for our party guy, our coolest of the cool among interstellar stud monkeys (and monkettes), there are many other votes coming in, splitting the ticket all over the place. The standings:

Spock - 10
Kirk - 6

Uhura - 3
Jean-Luc Picard - 3
Scotty - 3
Dr Bashir - 3
Seven of Nine - 2
Bones - 1
Cletus (?) - 1
Data - 1
Captain Pike - 1
"Q" - 1
Will Reiker - 1

And I am now putting in a very enthusiastic vote for Deanna Troy!

Deanna Troy - 1

The analysts here at WSSBA Central are expressing surprise at a number of developments...First of all, that James T. Kirk has not run away with it by now is fairly astounding, although Spock was expected to be a very strong contender from the start. Jean-Luc Picard, too, was considered a dangerous adversary who could rob a great many votes from either the Kirk or the Spock camp, but he has so far made only a modest showing of 3 votes. This is disappointing for Picard-worshippers, many of whom are female. Uhura and Scotty are feisty, as always. That was expected. That the smarmy little weasel, Dr Bashir, has actually EQUALLED them is remarkable! (The WSSBA does not really regard Dr Bashir as true Star Trek material.) Leonard McCoy has not come through as expected, possibly due to his propensity for bizarre non-sequitors and emotional outbursts...but the most astounding thing of all...the thing that has us utterly gobsmacked, is....DATA has only 1 vote!!! Shocking! The charming android was expected to be in 4rth place at this point in the polls. What, oh what, has happened to Data???

As for Guynan (played by Whoopi Goldberg), well...we weren't really expecting much buzz around her...

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Metchosin
Date: 21 Dec 04 - 11:43 PM

Well if we want cool, it would have to be the Cat from Red Dwarf, now that's coool. But given my druthers, I'd rather spend an evening pissed as a newt on vodka with Chekhov, than any time with either Kirk or Spock.

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Dec 04 - 12:12 AM

And therrrrrre-s.....a vote for Mr Chekov! Can Mr Sulu be far behind?

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: GUEST,Crystal (sans biscuit!)
Date: 22 Dec 04 - 05:03 AM

Can we vote more than once?

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 22 Dec 04 - 06:39 AM

Q!
That way I can honestly say I'm not the biggest troublemaker around.

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: 42
Date: 22 Dec 04 - 06:45 AM

If you're going to allow write in ballots I think Zaphod Beeblebrox has to be on the guest list for your space soiree.

Kirk's smarmy 'man the torpedos' approach to women wouldn't do him any good around here and I don't think he could take his airbrush lens with him.

Spock's too much work unless he's in ponfar (sp).

If you're limiting the choices to Star Trek in all its manifestations I'm for Jean Luc.

j

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Enti
Date: 22 Dec 04 - 08:52 AM

Jean Luc!!!! definitely, though the whole crew from all series is of course best.

Em.. yes that was another female vote for him...

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: *daylia*
Date: 22 Dec 04 - 10:07 AM

Ladies ladies ladies .... where IS your taste??? Never mind cool, he's so HOT I'm gonna take me a cold shower ...

And look, he's everything you see PLUS a poet too!

(If you want to watch him sing the thing, click here)

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Dec 04 - 10:09 AM

Oh! The drama! Picard is into the big leagues now, and may upset Kirk! The female vote is coming in. (No, you can only vote once for any given character. You can also vote later for another character, however, if you want to.)


Spock - 10
James Tiberius Kirk - 6
Jean-Luc Picard - 5

Uhura - 3
Scotty - 3
Dr Bashir - 3
"Q" - 2
Seven of Nine - 2
"Bones" (Leonard McCoy) - 1
Cletus (?) - 1
Data - 1
Captain Pike - 1
Will Reiker - 1
Deanna Troy - 1
Pavel Chekov - 1

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: MMario
Date: 22 Dec 04 - 10:20 AM

Lwaxana Troi...who not only is a lot cooler then her daughter but hotter as well!

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: GUEST,Zelda Zane
Date: 22 Dec 04 - 10:27 AM

Damon Tog, the Ferengi commander. What a hunk! I would love to caress his gorgeous ears and drive him slowly into a frenzy.

Oh, and another vote for dear Jean-Luc too!

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: jacqui.c
Date: 22 Dec 04 - 12:05 PM

OK I'd go for Dr McCoy as second choice. He could have felt my pulse anytime!

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: GUEST,WSSBA Voter Central
Date: 22 Dec 04 - 01:45 PM

Ahem. Damon Tog has just secured a place on the list. The less said about it the better. What IS worth talking about is...Picard has now tied Kirk!!!!

The standings:

Spock - 10
James Tiberius Kirk - 6
Jean-Luc Picard - 6

Uhura - 3
Scotty - 3
Dr Bashir - 3
"Q" - 2
Seven of Nine - 2
"Bones" (Leonard McCoy) - 2
Cletus (?) - 1
Data - 1
Captain Pike - 1
Will Reiker - 1
Deanna Troi - 1
Pavel Chekov - 1
Damon Tog (Ferengi) - 1
Lwaxana Troi - 1

*Note: Damon Tog once attempted to romance Lwaxana Troi, and she led him on for a bit, till rescued by Jean-Luc Picard. This is interesting, in light of the fact that all three of them received one vote each in the last few rounds of voting!

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 22 Dec 04 - 01:58 PM

(Who's being Crystal at this point in time....)
Another vote for Checkov.

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: GUEST,??
Date: 22 Dec 04 - 03:13 PM

You missed out Thomas Reiker

W. T. Reiker was duplicated in a transporter malfunction and one of him was marooned on a deserted planet for years.

The one who made it to the ship was Will Reiker, the one left behind - when he was rescued and discovered what had happened used his second name to difference himself from his luckier and by now higher ranking self.

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: muppitz
Date: 23 Dec 04 - 09:07 AM

On the subject of Kirk or Spock, Kirk would be more fun at a party so that's the side of the fence I stand on.

Next Gen candidate for me, would be Geordie La Forge. Oh and K'heylar (Worf's woman!), she looks like a woman who knows how to have fun.

From Voyager would be Tom Parrish. We need some eye candy and another witty personality.

And I would definately agree with anyone who says Q, someone has to be the troublemaker and I'd rather (for once) that it wasn't me.

(Am I allowed that many votes????)

muppitz x

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 23 Dec 04 - 09:45 AM

Riker is spelled with no E.
Don't you remember the tripping hippies episode? Spock did the "one" thing with his hands, and Kirk was just a Herbert! Now is that cool, or what?

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 23 Dec 04 - 09:53 AM

Neither, they are both embarrassing wankers! Star Trek was silly, amateurish, poorly written shite, fit only to be shown on daytime television!

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: *daylia*
Date: 23 Dec 04 - 10:53 AM

Star Trek was and still is one of the planets' very few - and most welcome - positive media influences. In the 60's, Gene Roddenbury was ahead of his time in many ways. He dared to script a woman - a woman "of color" no less - even a Russian together with Japanese, Europeans and Americans (!) on the bridge on his futuristic "military" vessel. He envisioned a hopeful future at a time when that was very hard to do; when humanity seemed hopelessly on the brink of nuclear and environmental disaster. And he presented that vision in an influential, compelling, creative, entertaining, and yes even scientifically/technologically 'informed' context of genuine, ongoing mass appeal.

Hmmm - I think he should be remembered as the Great Genie Roddenbury. Or maybe the Great Gene(ius) Roddenbury.

daylia

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: gnu
Date: 23 Dec 04 - 10:54 AM

Okay, but who are you voting for ?

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: *daylia*
Date: 23 Dec 04 - 11:22 AM

Well, lets see - from the tender age of 8 I've had my temperature raised - not lowered - by the coolness of the following hotties (in chronological order) ...

Kirk (what can I say, I was only 8)
Spock
Chekov
Spock
Riker
Spock
Picard
Spock
Data
Spock
Troi (don't ask)
Spock
Picard
Spock
Picard
Picard
Spock
Spock
Spock


Guess that makes it Spock, hands down.
Always dreamed of dipping those ears in my fondue.

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: gnu
Date: 23 Dec 04 - 12:05 PM

No offense, but I meant Ted.

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 23 Dec 04 - 12:08 PM

Oh dear! What a choice! Which of these ridiculous duds do I choose? erh........... Captain Kack!

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Dec 04 - 12:45 PM

Wow! Things are heating up here, and we have some more "fringe" candidates. Kirk goes to Warp 5 and barrels past Jean-Luc again! But Spock is unstoppable! The standings:

Spock - 12
James Tiberius Kirk - 8
Jean-Luc Picard - 6

Uhura - 3
Scotty - 3
Dr Bashir - 3
"Q" - 3
Seven of Nine - 2
"Bones" (Leonard McCoy) - 2
Cletus (?) - 1
Data - 1
Captain Pike - 1
Will/Thomas Riker - 2
Deanna Troi - 1
Pavel Chekov - 2
Damon Tog (Ferengi) - 1
Lwaxana Troi - 1
Geordie La Forge - 1
Tom Parrish - 1
K'heylar - 1
Gene Roddenberry - 1

Nice to see Gene Roddenberry on the list, as he was actually the force behind it all, and Daylia is absolutely right! Star Trek was one of the very few positive forces in TV drama history, as it envisioned a future of enlightenment, unity, and brotherhood instead of the usual dark and pessimistic dramas that are foisted upon us...apparently to show us what losers we all really are! Hooray for Star Trek, a show that believed in humanity!

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: MMario
Date: 23 Dec 04 - 12:47 PM

Uhura had the brains of the outfit - and they couldn't manage to communicate without her either. not that either Kirk or Spock were known for lucid conversation.

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: GUEST,Leonard Nimoy
Date: 23 Dec 04 - 01:11 PM

What is your definition of "lucid", MMario?

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: GUEST,James T. Kirk
Date: 23 Dec 04 - 01:14 PM

What would you rather have...lucidity or fluidity? The dialogue in the original Star Trek episodes was witty, punchy, and to-the-point. (Specially my lines.) It left other sci-fi shows of the time in the dust. And I just may have communicated with Uhura better than you think...

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: hesperis
Date: 23 Dec 04 - 01:23 PM

Spock over Kirk, definitely. (Which is why Shatner was upset, because Shatner was SUPPOSED to be the star of the show but Spock was everyone's favorite character.)

Picard kicks ass. Best male captain of the Enterprise ever, and the sexiest voice, too.

Kirk is not even on the list of cool!

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: MMario
Date: 23 Dec 04 - 01:24 PM

Leonard - your character frequently abandoned conversations in mid-stream - resorting to silence and a lifted eyebrow. But you were great in both 'Camelot' and 'Fiddler on the Roof'.

And as for the Captain - I would have settled for EITHER lucidity or fluidity - both of which were seriously lacking in his lackluster performances.

And she had better taste then that.

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: GUEST,William Shatner
Date: 23 Dec 04 - 02:01 PM

Uh-huh, uh-huh. Careful, MMario. One of these days I will write a critique of your laughable attempts to re-enact medieval times at those silly shows you do...

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: MMario
Date: 23 Dec 04 - 02:12 PM

Why thank you - but I don't do re-enactments. I entertain at English RENAISSANCE themed events (not medieval) - but never claim to do re-enactment. And given my sales figures over the past 13 years - quite successfully.

"laughable" is what it is about.

Bill - you yourself have admitted your"dramatic pauses" were because you couldn't remember your lines. Then again - given your lines in a lot of the shows I would have tried hard to forget them as well.

However - I still haven't forgotten or forgiven you for what you did to Zenna Henderson's 'The People'. Hang your head in shame!

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: GUEST,Deanna
Date: 23 Dec 04 - 02:15 PM

Worf!

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Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: MMario
Date: 23 Dec 04 - 02:17 PM

Nasty cough you have there Deanna

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: GUEST,WSSBA Central
Date: 23 Dec 04 - 02:23 PM

Spock is still well ahead, with Kirk just edging out Picard!

Spock - 13
James Tiberius Kirk - 8
Jean-Luc Picard - 7

Uhura - 4
Scotty - 3
Dr Bashir - 3
"Q" - 3
Seven of Nine - 2
"Bones" (Leonard McCoy) - 2
Cletus (?) - 1
Data - 1
Captain Pike - 1
Will/Thomas Riker - 2
Deanna Troi - 1
Pavel Chekov - 2
Damon Tog (Ferengi) - 1
Lwaxana Troi - 1
Geordie La Forge - 1
Tom Parrish - 1
K'heylar - 1
Gene Roddenberry - 1
Worf - 1

Subject: RE: BS: Who was cooler? Kirk or Spock?
From: Cluin
Date: 23 Dec 04 - 09:39 PM

If sex is to be thrown into the picture, I'd like to change my vote to Dr. Beverly Crusher.

As long as we don't have to have Wee Willy Wheaton hanging around.