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UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii

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Subject: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Noreen
Date: 23 Oct 01 - 02:00 PM

Continuing UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 which has come to no conclusions so far...


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Frailin Gill
Date: 23 Oct 01 - 02:10 PM

Yes I will come. Either hostel, either weekend in January will be fine. Sorry if I'm repeating myself, I've only just seen this continuation.


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 23 Oct 01 - 03:55 PM

Diva you asked where I am, most of the time I seem to be in Lairg which is north of Inverness, but some days I'm not too sure. ( Especially Fridays!!) Any of the dates would suit, and Langdale or Beverley are OK

Jock

BTW The most magnificent hostel in the UK, Carbisdale Castle is only 5 miles from me.


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 23 Oct 01 - 05:10 PM

Better count us out for January - to close to Christmas!-


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: shankmac
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 04:48 AM

4th,5th Jan. is too close to New Year for us Jocks. We are still celebrating.


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 06:10 AM

Ive had a hack around with the distribution of catters in the UK. What is immediately apparent from a preliminary inspection of the frequencies is that while the available observations do follow predicted norms, some error has crept in to the results.

The specific outlier in question is in the Yorkshire cell, and the extremity of the degree of deviation can only realistically be attributed to experimental error. Therefore in accordance with standard scientific protocols, the Yorkshire cell has been disregarded in all subsequent analyses.

So, taking into account a distribution of UK catters (standardised into density rather than absolute numbers) and ignoring the outliers in the usual way, a set of travel time polygons were fabricated and superimposed on a node map of a trial population of centroids. The relative locations of the nodes were then manipulated using a Fubar transform to generate a best-fit solution.

Therefore, I can state with the usual professional certainty that, based on travel time, catter density, the absence of Yorkshire from the equation and a 'number of other factors' (ahem) the best fit result for the problem lies on the A5 just as it crosses the Bucks/Northants border.

Thank you for your time, ladies and gentlemen. Now if there are any questions?


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 06:15 AM

Yes. You wouldn't be near the A5, would you, Dai?
Actually, even my kazoo might be persuaded to travel thatfar!
RtS (My visa for Yorkshire has expired)


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 06:25 AM

Gosh, you know what? I've just noticed that's where I live! Thanks, Roger!! What a coincidence!


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 06:35 AM

Dai- you are a complete hoot!!!!


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Noreen
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 09:46 AM

I love the Fubar transform, Dai- I use it in my work a great deal.


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: alanww
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 10:55 AM

Is a Fubar transform like dressing up in ladies clothes and painting your toenails luminous blue? Because if it is ...

T'was pleasant and delightful ...
Alan


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Morticia
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 12:01 PM

so if you mapped UK 'Catters by density....who came out densist?


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 12:03 PM

That is impossible to state in simple terms, because of the heteroschedasticity of the data.

:-)


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: GUEST,JohnB
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 12:12 PM

So if I follow the theorem correctly, if as many Mudcatters from Seattle and Vancouver area attend the UK gathering as Brits. We could have the UK get together in Toronto, Canada, so then I could come too. JohnB


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: brid widder
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 12:16 PM

I could probably make Toronto...well a bit easier than wales...


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: GUEST,Noreen
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 12:54 PM

No, Alan, you looked far too good in them for the Fubar transform
TM
to apply in that case!

...there's not a court in all the world
has treasures fair as these...


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: John Routledge
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 01:14 PM

Are you saying that Yorkshire is an experimental error Dai?


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: GUEST,Noreen
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 01:19 PM

Ah well, that's a bit of HTML that doesn't work as expected... :0) (ignore the line breaks around TM)


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: John Routledge
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 03:27 PM

Back to reality :0)

I will do a head count in 7 days time to see if anything is possible.

Even if nothing materialises at least we have learned that the Mudcat Epi-Centre is Dai's house rather than between Sheffield and Worksop and the question of a UK Gathering has been given a first airing.

Suggestions for other types of venues which are not time limited like YHA are welcome!!

Otherwise it is Llanstock 3 as next event.Cheers John NAMES OF ATTENDERS BEL0W PLEASE


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 03:37 PM

I think we are still planning another gathering either at or near the Jug next May/June so we may not have to wait until October


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 03:38 PM

There's Dai-abolically devious you are now boyo! Jock DARFC


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Gareth
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 03:39 PM

Gareth - radius 5 hours travelling from Caerphilly. Cost to £25.00 excluding beer.

Preferably with Sheep.


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 04:05 PM

I stand by my results! The scientific fact is there for anyone to see!!! You'll see - everybody laughed at... at Einstein, and Copernicus, and Pythagoras - I will be vindicated! Soon the whole world will quake at my power!!! Bwahahahahaha!


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 04:40 PM

Right so its all round to Dai's place then. Bags I the big room!


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Gareth
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 07:17 PM

Ah Yes, but does Dai, part of the Welsh Diaspora ( or howerver you spell it) have a nearby sheep pasture ?

Gareth ( who has served his time in exile as an expatriot)


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 07:27 PM

Gareth, stout fellow, I can hear them calling sweetly from my very window. (Baaa! Baaa! they say, like the morning... er, sheep)


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Gareth
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 07:37 PM

DAi, 'ere how come you know I is a stout fellow - did I miss you at Lanstock ??

Gareth


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Matthew Edwards
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 07:46 PM

Dai, I have to say that your theories are a load of Cock and Bull. *BG* Stony Stratford would suit me fine for a gathering as my brother lives there (and will be extremely alarmed to know that he is now hosting the 2002 Gathering). I will ring him tomorrow to warn him!

NB The Cock and the Bull Inns are two pubs in Stony Stratford, and the excellent Cock and Bull Band may be heard there on occasion.


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 07:57 PM

Can I just point out that it can actually be cheaper and easier to travel to London and back out, than to go direct... particularly if you can scrounge a lift out of London....

Don't rule us out just cos we'm southerners.....

LTS


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: John Routledge
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 08:09 PM

Great news Mrs D. PS tape done and will be posted later today. Cheers John


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: alison
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 08:54 PM

er... isn't January going to be a bit cold???????

I mean if I left 40C to go to 2C I'd be VERY cold

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Terry K
Date: 25 Oct 01 - 04:30 AM

.....2 degrees C in Wales in January, Alison? That'd be indoors then!

Cheers, Terry


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: alanww
Date: 25 Oct 01 - 05:24 AM

Realism: I agree with Geordie Broon that we need to be realistic! Clearly, unless someone can come up with a venue other than a YHA, eg a village large hall for indoor camping next to two wonderful pubs, we will need to look beyond the winter and into the spring.
Alternative: Is there such a hall near the Cock and Bull pubs in Stoney Stratford, The one and only Dai? If so, how about provisionally booking it for early Feb and then seeing how many Mudcatters would be interested?
2003: We should also start thinking about next year now if we are to book a YHA. So which one should it be and when? Personally, I don't mind where it is but I would suggest early Feb, as that would be after the post-Christmas recovery period. How about provisionally booking one Geordie Broon?
May/June: Also, tell us more about the date and venue for the potential gathering at The Jug in May/June Mrs Duck - where is The Jug, for instance, and presumably it will need to give the proposed Euro-gathering in early May a wide berth.

There were five jolly fellows came over the hill together ...
Alan


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 25 Oct 01 - 05:39 AM

OK, alan, my contribution was actually tongue in cheek (no, really?) but I will make some enquiries. The fact of the matter is that most UK catters appear to live in North England, making Yorkshire a natural centre of gravity for such an event. Having said that, the South does have better communications for Wales and the SW, as well as still maintaining at least some links with the North ;-)

If anyone would like to PM me ot post here, I'll take all comments and suggestions with the usual rigorous scientific doo-dah...

Incidentally, I'd just like to say http://www.stonystratford.co.uk.


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Matthew Edwards
Date: 25 Oct 01 - 08:24 AM

Muddlecat Gathering

Let me go to the next Mudcat Gathering,
There'll be nobody else there but me!
I shall sing by myself in Llangollen,
While the rest are all in Beverley.

I'll sing of stochastics in Stony,
Die with Dai in the Cock and the Bull.
While 'Catters are freezing in Langdale,
And Gareth is teasing the wool.


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Julie B
Date: 25 Oct 01 - 08:29 AM

Geordie, Put me down as a 'possible' for any gathering, especially if we end up in Stony Stratford or near Hull (I've got an aunt there, so that's my B&B sorted out!). As you know, I can trek further afield (e.g. for our Folkworks week with Sandra Joyce in Durham) but would have to be highly motivated to do so during a cold January!

Julie B

P.S. I sang 'The Thresher' song that Sandra taught us for the first time a few weeks ago (at Bedford). Bought back memories of us all standing singing it in the gym at Durham Johnston School!


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Trevor
Date: 25 Oct 01 - 08:57 AM

'Allo. Me too. Anywhere.


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 25 Oct 01 - 12:26 PM

Alan, last year the gathering at the Jug was mid May 2 weeks after the Germany gathering but we still had 56 Mudcatters there. The problem this year may be the change of landlord as one or two people seem to have deserted the Jug so he may not be as willing to host an event. When we know more we'll post a thread.
Jane


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: GUEST,Ickle in Whitby
Date: 25 Oct 01 - 03:48 PM

So we need somewhere near a good transport network, which has catering and plenty of space for crashing out in, alcohol-of course- By George , it's so obvious - East Midlands Airport!!!!! Sorry Gareth no sheep -would the occassional sniffer dog suffice?


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Gareth
Date: 25 Oct 01 - 04:27 PM

A dog ! What do you think I am, some kind of pervert !!!

Gareth


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: John Routledge
Date: 25 Oct 01 - 06:52 PM

Mrs Duck's last post neatly sums it all up.

The number of Catters in or within easy travelling distance of Yorkshire is such that any gathering there will be well attended.

Larger hostels ie those which have more than 1 room suitable for music and singing are the more expensive hostels and hence need a large attendance to make cost modest - if in fact that is what is required.

We can indeed book in the near future for 2003 but a 25% non returnable deposit is still required 2 weeks from booking (£150 approx)

Might I suggest the first requirement is a date which does not clash with too many other events although someone will undoubtedly be disappointed and have to make a choice.

As far as YHA is concerned February seems best although less popular hostels are available in March also.

Rent a hostel scheme booklet is available free from 0870 241 2253 or e-mail: rentahostel@yha.org.uk should anyone wish to get a copy of the new booklet when it comes out and give us the benefit of another viewpoint.

If the feeling is that 2003 is too far away to contemplate than I will quite happily belt up!!

Cheers GB


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 25 Oct 01 - 06:52 PM

You bloody Welshman-I saw you looking at the cat near the caravan!! WHAT DATES EXACTLY are we talking about please?

Please don't encourage him to sniffa dog please! he's baaad enough.


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Gareth
Date: 25 Oct 01 - 06:59 PM

Eric - your jealous - just becos you had spent your time trying to chat up pussy, and she prefered to be talked to in the tongue of heaven, (and a bit of bacon from the Cafe)

Meiow !!

Gareth :>)


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 26 Oct 01 - 07:11 AM

There is one remaining prospect for an indoor camping/private bar venue in Stony. I have to wait until Monday as their office is closed until then.

Another option worth considering is that, in the recent past, we (as a community) have played host to large-ish groups of foreign musicians and put them up in our own houses. Given a core of about 30-40 folkies in the town, it might be possible to go down that route.


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 26 Oct 01 - 07:32 AM

Are people seriously suggesting I might have to travel north...shudder!!...beyond the safe boundaries of the M4...? But...but...they eat babies up there, don't they?
Sure, you can all come to Bristol and kip on my floor*




(*this offer is not necessarily intended as fact. Floorspace can go up as well as down. Your sanity is at risk if you do not keep up payments to my drinking fund. Owner accepts no liablity for anything, ever.)


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: MudGuard
Date: 26 Oct 01 - 07:40 AM

Fibula, did you hear what they do to sheep in Wales and Yorkshire? If not, ask Gareth and Erik!

Eating babies might be harmless in comparison.


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Noreen
Date: 26 Oct 01 - 07:46 AM

Floorspace can go up as well as down

...just feels that way as a result of the operation of the drinking fund ...


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 26 Oct 01 - 01:20 PM

We eat the sheep as well Mudguard but preferably not after Eric's had his hands on them! As for babies I like the tender bit just above the knee mmmmmm.


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Medea
Date: 26 Oct 01 - 05:20 PM

Down south? London? M4? Is that past Chesterfield?


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Gareth
Date: 26 Oct 01 - 06:20 PM

Damnation - I'am compromised - unless it's Llangollen I've got to cross Offers Dyke. ( No Joe this is not a comment on your proclivities)

Gareth


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: MudGuard
Date: 26 Oct 01 - 06:47 PM

If I understand Erik and Gareth right it should be no problem to eat a sheep if one of them had only his hands on the sheep.

Gareth, don't forget to apply for a visa!


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: lady penelope
Date: 28 Oct 01 - 07:30 AM

hehehehehehehehehehehehehahahahahahahahahahahahahahagiggle!

After all this giggling I've quite lost the plot!

( Deep breath ) Early January is too close to new years for a lot of folk. Any later brings indoor camping into doubt.

I think we have to decide if we want a gathering before the end of May.

If not, do we wait to find out what's happening at the Jug, or decide on an alternative as soon as possible?

TTFN M'Lady P.


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: alanww
Date: 28 Oct 01 - 12:54 PM

Feb 2003 I feel that we do need to book up now and, as long as it is in early/mid Feb and up north, I'm sure that the deposit would not be at risk! I suggest Geordie Broon goes for it! Who else would be interested? Would it be worth starting a new thread to record interest in that?
Feb 2002 If we cannot get a venue up north in Feb this winter, I suggest that we wait until The one and only Dai has all the info on the possibility down south. Then we can start a new thread on that to see if there is enough interest to make it viable!
May 2002 We could still go to The Jug, as suggested by Mrs Duck. But where is The Jug and is there a specific date yet?

Swing low sweet Chariot ...
Alan


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 28 Oct 01 - 01:01 PM

If you're looking at May 2002, don't forget that the second Bank Holiday (and Chippenham Festival) has shifted from the last weekend in May to the first in June, because of the Queen's Golden Jublilee...

Kitty


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: MudGuard
Date: 28 Oct 01 - 01:17 PM

And in May 2002 there is the Brussels gathering!


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 28 Oct 01 - 03:13 PM

I never gather my brussels until after the first frost, the flavour is better. Jock


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Gareth
Date: 28 Oct 01 - 03:27 PM

Whoa ! Whoa !

Please refer to Geordies Browns Post of Date: 25-Oct-01 - 06:52 PM Above

Lets firstly concentrate on what is possible this side of April 02 - Then lets look at 2003

Gareth


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Willa
Date: 28 Oct 01 - 05:12 PM

The one and only Dai ...'Yorkshire a natural centre of gravity'; but of course - we don't want any frivolity over here, thanks!


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 28 Oct 01 - 06:07 PM

Actually, I wouldn't mind going from the Brussels gathering straight on to another one (or verce visa :-) - but I couldn't possible come in January.


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: alanww
Date: 29 Oct 01 - 05:52 AM

Having been too late to book the Youth Hostel we wanted at the time we wanted for 2002, we should book early for 2003! When do they start to get booked up Geordie Broon?

Kind friends and companions come join me in rhyme ...
Alan


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 29 Oct 01 - 06:25 AM

Shuddering at the thought of a possible trip 'up North', can we meet either side and or somewhere in the middle of Offas Dyke? I more or less live right smack bang right on the edge of the border (the Offas Dyke)..

So, what's the general plans... I've kind of lost the plans... (no comment, I lost the plot a long time ago)

E


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 30 Oct 01 - 07:38 AM

Stony Stratford has a community building called York House. At one time it was a boarding school but is now used for various events.

I've spoken to the guy in charge, and discovered to my (grin) amazement that he's also the guy in charge of our local folk festival. He's quite enthusiastic about the possiblity of a mudcat gathering on his home turf.

There's a large field out the back on which tents and campers/vans can be put. The building has 2 floors and can accommodate an indeterminate number of adults for sleeping.

There are facilities to erect a bar if appropriate or required (ROFL) and one of the local landlords I may have met once or twice would be more than happy to help us out.

It would appear that the second and fourth weekends in Feb 2002 are available at the moment, awaiting confirmation on that though.

Is this a goer? I can secure the place for a given date with a phone call, cost will be 'negotiable' *ahem* but of the order of £100 for the saturday and sunday. Could I please have any feedback and comments?


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 30 Oct 01 - 08:43 AM

Where's Stony Stratford?

E


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 30 Oct 01 - 08:49 AM

blicky it's 50 miles northwest of London on the A5.


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Hilary
Date: 30 Oct 01 - 09:04 AM

Stony Stratford is fine, . But camping ....,

Outside ...., . IN FEBRUARY ..., . I thnk I'll pass on that one !


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 30 Oct 01 - 09:11 AM

FYI, indoor camping is fine at York House. I've already cleared it with 'mah man'... There are numerous hotels and guest houses in town should anyone be feeling particularly flush, and a limited number of people could be put up in my house...


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Snuffy
Date: 30 Oct 01 - 09:38 AM

2nd weekend in Feb sounds good, but I think the Middle Bar reunion is the 4th weekend.

WassaiL! V


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 30 Oct 01 - 09:48 AM

whjoooo... 2n a nalf hours from me, when the winds blowing in the right directions, would think about that one!

E

Thinking hat on...


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 30 Oct 01 - 11:03 AM

Sounds good to me.


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: GUEST,brid widder
Date: 30 Oct 01 - 11:29 AM

well! a definite maybe!!


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: nutty
Date: 30 Oct 01 - 11:33 AM

Anywhere inside would be good at that time of year ...... How do they feel about dogs?????


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: John Routledge
Date: 30 Oct 01 - 01:20 PM

Definite for second weekend in Feb. John


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Gareth
Date: 30 Oct 01 - 02:06 PM

Mmmm ! Middle (geographically) England - but why not ?

Gareth


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: John Routledge
Date: 30 Oct 01 - 02:07 PM

YHA Gathering 2002 has died a death I think.

Long live Stoney Stratford.

No rush as yet to book YHA 2003 if that is what is wanted although YHA advise the sooner the booking the greater the choice. EG 50% of hostels are booked for New Year 2002/2003.

Second w/e in Feb is hardly prime time though.

Really only Langdale and Llangollen are suitable but I have been known to be wrong :0)

Will post again under new thread when Stoney Stratford sorted. Cheers John


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 30 Oct 01 - 03:12 PM

I'm just very very confused.....

LTS


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: GUEST,Dai with no cookie
Date: 31 Oct 01 - 05:01 AM

I'll start another thread when the cat is sorted out then. I'm currently awaiting receipt of the terms and conditions. PLEASE: could anybody who was involved in Llanstock contact me for advice and caveats? It would be much appreciated...


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Oct 01 - 05:21 AM

There's some info on Stony (stoney)Stratford HERE


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: GUEST,nutty -sans cookie
Date: 31 Oct 01 - 05:22 AM

That last posting was from me --- Hey I've joined the cookieless club as well


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: GUEST,Noreen no-cookie
Date: 31 Oct 01 - 06:56 AM

Just caught up with this now I've got back in- great idea, Dai. I can get onto Watling Street half a mile from my cottage, and it'll take me all the way there! :0)

2nd weekend in Feb (8th -10th) would be good as it's followed by half term.

Suggest you start a new thread with current proposal and assess interest. Bron (Llanfair) would be the person to talk to about the Llanstock experience, I'll e-mail her in case she's having probs getting into mudcat. Some of us can get in but are cookieless for the time being, so can't use PMs.

Noreen


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: GUEST,Llanfair-with-no-name.
Date: 31 Oct 01 - 10:43 AM

Aha!!! I'm in!!! What do you need to know, Dai? If you PM me when Mudcat is better, I'll give you my phone number.
This sounds great!!!
Cheers, Bron.


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Llanfair
Date: 31 Oct 01 - 10:50 AM

Would you believe it!! 2 days of not getting in, and now the self-repair circuits have cut in.......typical!!!


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Matthew Edwards
Date: 31 Oct 01 - 12:33 PM

Stony sounds great for second weekend in February. Noreen, we can form a convoy down the A5, picking up Llanfair along the way (if she wants). Now I will really have to warn my little brother that his sheltered life in Stony is about to be very rudely disturbed. (NB Must also tell him to hide those sheep!)

A Song for the Gathering

It was on one February evening when frost lay all around,
I walked through Stony Statford, as snow fell to the ground.
I was seeking for a 'Cat house, some contentment for to find,
And music, joy, and laughter to ease my lonely mind.

I called in at the House of York, and there it did me please
To hear sounds of voices singing in sweetest harmonies.
The ale was freely flowing; with glasses raised on high
The Mudcatters were drinking to the one and only Dai.

So fill your glasses to the brim, and let us make a toast
To that scion of statistics, our gentle bard and host.
And if you're tired of wandering along old Watling Street,
Call at the Cock Inn, or the Bull, where music and friends meet.

Count me in as a definite. Dai do PM me, I can't help much with organisation but will try what I can.


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: lady penelope
Date: 31 Oct 01 - 02:25 PM

'Sgot my vote!

TTFN M'Lady P.


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: John Routledge
Date: 31 Oct 01 - 03:04 PM

Dai - In my earlier life as a Chartered Surveyor I dealt with legal documentation regarding property occupation etc etc.

Will be happy to look at anything you receive. Cheers John.


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Noreen
Date: 31 Oct 01 - 06:07 PM

Love the song, Matthew! Multipart harmonies to the Lakes of Pontchartrain- or what tune did you have in mind?

I said, my pretty mudcat girl, the indoor camping's good
But if it weren't for the alligators I'd sleep out in the wood...

Noreen pluscookie


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Matthew Edwards
Date: 31 Oct 01 - 06:42 PM

Actually, Noreen, considering that the Bedfordshire Ouse is notorious for flooding Lakes of Pontchartrain is a pretty appropriate tune:

So fare thee well, my mudcat girl,since its you I have to lose
You were swept away, on a frosty day, on the banks of the Bedfordshire Ouse

Then I kissed her little sister
And forgot my Mudcat girl!


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 31 Oct 01 - 07:12 PM

Just a slight deviation - the gathering at the Jug is ON and will take place on the weekend before Spring bank which I think makes it 24th May 2002. We are in the diary and hopefully we will have the marquee again . I know it is bound to clash with someone but that will always be the case but I hope to see as many of you from all over the UK and beyond as possible!!


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 01 Nov 01 - 06:33 AM

Jug sounds good Jane- I think I will just pack a suitcase in February and not bother to unpack all year!!!!


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: John Routledge
Date: 01 Nov 01 - 01:17 PM

Please see STONEY STRATFORD thread for FEBRUARY 2002.


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: John Routledge
Date: 01 Nov 01 - 01:18 PM

Please see STONEY STRATFORD thread for FEBRUARY 2002.


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 01 Nov 01 - 01:49 PM

Please put in blue thingy for sotney stratford link!


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Noreen
Date: 01 Nov 01 - 01:49 PM

UK GATHERING, STONY STRATFORD 2002


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: Noreen
Date: 01 Nov 01 - 01:59 PM

Synchronicity, Eric...

but sorry, I don't know the link for sotney stratford :.p


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: JudeL
Date: 02 Nov 01 - 11:30 AM

Is it shorthand for stoney (broke) and sots (drunkards) ?


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Subject: RE: UK - MUDCAT GATHERING 2002 part ii
From: JudeL
Date: 02 Nov 01 - 11:31 AM

Is it shorthand for stoney (broke) and sots (drunkards) ?


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