Folk gets surprise boost on BBC TV

Subject: RE: Folk gets surprise boost on BBC TV
From: Mr Red
Date: 20 Oct 08 - 08:14 AM

Hey - I got back to Folk music after divorce.
And I never sang till the wife left home.

I don't matter how you got here, it matters that you are here.

And as Carthy senior says, "You can do anything you want to Folk music and it will survive. Except ignore it"
But some of us may take issue on the worth of some experiments.

Subject: RE: Folk gets surprise boost on BBC TV
From: Compton
Date: 20 Oct 08 - 09:25 AM

It may6 not be long before they appear on "The Legends of Folk Music" Channel!!

Subject: RE: Folk gets surprise boost on BBC TV
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 20 Oct 08 - 09:41 AM

Ho hum. Someone famous likes folk music.

Yawn.

Does this somehow validate it?

Are we insignificant without our celebrity champions?

I quite like some of Ade Edmundson's work. He can be very funny when he's not being boring. But I don't understand why I ought to give a shit what's in his record collection.

Subject: RE: Folk gets surprise boost on BBC TV
From: Will Fly
Date: 20 Oct 08 - 09:54 AM

Hmm. Just checked out the "I Fought The Law" video on the Bad Shepherds website. Can't say I particularly cared for the vocal, though the instrumentation wasn't too bad. Heard worse, heard better.

Subject: RE: Folk gets surprise boost on BBC TV
From: Will Fly
Date: 20 Oct 08 - 09:57 AM

Should have said.
Bad Shepherds web link.

Subject: RE: Folk gets surprise boost on BBC TV
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 20 Oct 08 - 11:21 AM

Strummer it ain't . . .

Subject: RE: Folk gets surprise boost on BBC TV
From: Will Fly
Date: 20 Oct 08 - 11:25 AM

No, it ain't. And, in any case, the original (Bobby Fuller Four) wasn't punk but another rock'n roll classic in the Buddy Holly style. Not an auspicious foretaste of things to come.

Subject: RE: Folk gets surprise boost on BBC TV
From: GUEST,Spleen Cringe
Date: 20 Oct 08 - 11:50 AM

Now... if we were talking Garageland or Clash City Rockers or even Neat Neat Neat or Don't Dictate or Boredom played fast and loud and furious on fiddle, melodeon, frame drum and stomp box, we'd be talking.

I suspect nothing of the sort, sadly...

Subject: RE: Folk gets surprise boost on BBC TV
From: Brakn
Date: 20 Oct 08 - 11:52 AM

Wasn't the original "I Fought The Law" by Sonny Curtis and The Crickets 1959.

Subject: RE: Folk gets surprise boost on BBC TV
From: Will Fly
Date: 20 Oct 08 - 11:54 AM

Should I Go Or Should I Stay? Nah - already been done by the Ukelele Orchestra of Great Britain.

Subject: RE: Folk gets surprise boost on BBC TV
From: Will Fly
Date: 20 Oct 08 - 11:56 AM

Wasn't the original "I Fought The Law" by Sonny Curtis and The Crickets 1959.

Quite possibly, Brakn. I was just drawing on my old, imperfect memory.

Subject: RE: Folk gets surprise boost on BBC TV
From: GUEST,Nerd
Date: 20 Oct 08 - 01:26 PM

Actually, Diane, as you well know, my statement seven years ago was that:

"my 'winning the lottery' dream is to buy the rights from [Dave Bulmer] and redistribute them to the artists."

Amazing how you have to resort to dishonest smear tactics, suggesting that I threatened to hoard them. As I said before, quite sad.

Subject: RE: Folk gets surprise boost on BBC TV
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 20 Oct 08 - 02:10 PM

so take away the celebrity packaging and media promotion bollox..

whats he actually doing that's any different or more interesting than any other
of the multitude of late 40 / early 50 somethings
who were spotty amphetamine punkrockers 30 odd years ago,
and have by now drifted one way or another into uneasy middle-aged maturity
and the welcome easy comforts of folk/roots music ?

so who hasn't bashed out 'White Riot' on a cheap ukelele
for the amusement of old mates,
or jammed an impromptu set of old punk favourites
on any available 'folk' instruments
at a well pissed up party after the pubs have chucked out !!!???

who cares anyway..

as long as the daft old young one is enjoying touring in a band
for the sheer simple fun of it..

though if for any moment he may be deluding himself
that his particular take on punk folk 'fusion' is in any way special/amazing/unique..

..as long as he isn't exploiting his celebrity status   
in order to appropriate an entire informal social/cultural phenomenon
and market it as his own bands unique selling proposition..

hmmm.. bearing in mind his first youthful big showbiz act
blatantly* stole their name
"The Dangerous Brothers"
from a notorious cult** Somerset punk era theatrical 'shock-rock' band
who gigged at Manchester Umist while he and Rik were students...

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~smedlo/music/THEDANGEROUS.htm


* should i have said 'allegedly' ???

** hmm... did i spell that correctly ???

Subject: RE: Folk gets surprise boost on BBC TV
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 20 Oct 08 - 04:04 PM

[Quick response to Winick's Wildly OT Whinge:

At the time when Celtic bought up the bankrupt Leader/Trailer, everybody, Bill Leader included, was over the moon. But you never ever know what somebody's going to do till it's done (or in this case, not done). Hindsight is wonderful. I'd never ever trust a soul with the archive till I saw the material out there and the artists earning what's due to them].

Back to the infinitely improved out-of-recognition topic of Joe Strummer:

Nobody who was in Victoria Park that day 30 years ago will ever forget this:

White Riot

Ade & Rik the Dangerous Brothers? Don't make me laugh. Mildly funny and very silly, yes.

Subject: RE: Folk gets surprise boost on BBC TV
From: Nerd
Date: 20 Oct 08 - 07:54 PM

Diane,

Fair enough, I can't ask you to trust me. And, of course, it's unlikely I will win the lottery anyway. As for it being wilidly off topic, I hate to point his out, but it was you who brought it up! (This is why we love you so much, and hope you never leave.)

But to bring it back to the actual topic, you can see an interview with Mike Harding and Ade Edmondson here.

And, just for fun, one with John Tams and Sean Bean, here.

Subject: RE: Folk gets surprise boost on BBC TV
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 02:56 AM

Now Mike Harding interviewing Adrian, that IS bandwagon jumping of the first order.

eric

Subject: RE: Folk gets surprise boost on BBC TV
From: GUEST,not so young one
Date: 01 Nov 08 - 12:19 PM

so it appears after all the media hype
the Ade & the Bad Sheps tour is cancelled
under very mysterious circumstances..

not a single update or mention on their website ???

anyone know any definite news or reasons ?

Subject: RE: Folk gets surprise boost on BBC TV
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 02 Nov 08 - 09:50 AM

""Diane, everyone here loves you and would miss you if you ever left.""

Not everybody!!

I'll happily volunteer to hold the door open, and administer a swift boot in passing.



Joe, I think this thread has lost all point.

Time to close?

Don T.

Subject: RE: Folk gets surprise boost on BBC TV
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 02 Nov 08 - 12:49 PM

I'm not at all sure who this Donwhizzythingy is but think I might have tripped over him in desperation to get to somewhere else at Sidmouth. I did wonder what it was on my shoe.

Whizzydon and Nerdystevie . . . what a pair of sad old blokes who think it's trendy when other sad old blokes try to be rock stars. Quite funny that their idols got ripped off by management who also nicked their token woman violin player.

Subject: RE: Folk gets surprise boost on BBC TV
From: Abdul The Bul Bul
Date: 12 Jun 10 - 06:52 AM

Well, he seems to be having a lot of fun and people are paying him for it; bloody good for him.
He likes folk music, I like folk music but I suspect he, like me doesn't take it as anything Important.
Some people get passionate about football. I like to watch England games but I don't think of it as Important either.
The thread is dead and should be buried.
Al

Subject: RE: Folk gets surprise boost on BBC TV
From: Bernard
Date: 12 Jun 10 - 08:04 AM

Until you resurrected it, it was...

Subject: RE: Folk gets surprise boost on BBC TV
From: GUEST,Tom Bliss
Date: 12 Jun 10 - 08:39 AM

Just for the record, the thread was resurrected by a spam post which has since been deleted.

Subject: RE: Folk gets surprise boost on BBC TV
From: Abdul The Bul Bul
Date: 12 Jun 10 - 01:47 PM

Aha, now I note the dates. Sorry Bernard.
Al

Subject: RE: Folk gets surprise boost on BBC TV
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 13 Sep 11 - 04:11 AM

just read the thread.

very strange to see how the contributions got so venomous and upsetting.

Its the old chestnut that started it. What is folk? Someone suggesting that it gets a boost from the interest of a VIP. So in a way it was the title that started it. Almost certainly unitentionally.

But we live in a world where the music is perceived as under threat and, some people who have championed it for decades get very protective of what they perceive as folk music.

However whatever anyone thinks - there is no no way of limiting the English language and its shades of meaning - and the term 'folk music' certainly means different things to different people.

Subject: RE: Folk gets surprise boost on BBC TV
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 13 Sep 11 - 04:22 AM

It doesn't seem very venomous to me. Nor does it seem to be a "what is folk?" thread.

There are also people who believe that the world is flat, somewhere, I am sure.

Subject: RE: Folk gets surprise boost on BBC TV
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 13 Sep 11 - 04:27 AM

Happy birthday Richard from a few days ago.