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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: GUEST,Hugo Date: 16 May 09 - 07:42 AM The BNP had its Euro election training manual leaked in the press a few weeks ago.The author of the manual ,its leader the ex public school boy Nick Griffin, warned his own to be on their best behaviour.He described members of his own organisation as "compulsive liars","Walter Mitty characters", "oddballs" and "cranks". I would go along with add but would add,baroom bigots, foul mouthed racists, fascist thugs and hooligans. Hugo |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: Jack Blandiver Date: 16 May 09 - 07:55 AM We got a BNP leaflet through the door the other day; so did my Indian neighbours presumably. We also got a Green Party leaflet which depressed me, though for different reasons. What waste of our natural resources, recycled or otherwise! If they repatriated me they'd have to quarter me first... |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 16 May 09 - 08:08 AM Being a Yank - I had never heard about the BNP until one of the Mudcat Maine-iacs bragged about YouTube postings with thousands of hits on his recordings of sailor songs....and you Brits urged the singer to distance himself dispite the excellent publicity.
That led me to explore all of GoodFightLad's musical collection (much removed now) and to view the all the video links. It appears he and BNP have some valid issues - I especially like the poster "This is a British BullDog NOT a Brussel's Sprout."
For the sake of a Yank seeking more information - could you Please Post a few links to the BNP party sites that seem to be getting your folkie knickers all in bind?
Sincerely,
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: Fred McCormick Date: 16 May 09 - 08:32 AM Gargoyle. I've no intention of publicising links to the BNP, or any other Nazi organisation. If you want an idea of what the BNP are about, take a look at the Ku Klux Klan, with whom they have fraternal links. Guest. This topic is not BS. I started it after receiving information about a BNP fronted initiative, which could very possibly have fooled non-BNP Mudcat members into playing for bogus St Georges Day celebrations. In any event, as I understand it, anonymous postings from "Guests" are not allowed on Mudcat. |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: Frozen Gin (inactive) Date: 16 May 09 - 11:46 AM "could very possibly have fooled non-BNP Mudcat members into playing for bogus St Georges Day celebrations" I'm just wondering how stupid you think we are? Print the links by all means, let those want, know the enemy. "In any event, as I understand it, anonymous postings from "Guests" are not allowed on Mudcat" sorry I'm chortlig here at this non-response |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: Fred McCormick Date: 16 May 09 - 11:57 AM Gin, I am not going to start publicing a racist/fascist organisation whose aims and objectives I loathe and despise. "In any event, as I understand it, anonymous postings from "Guests" are not allowed on Mudcat" Sorry. This was a reply to someone who posted under the name of "Guest". Not allowed on Mudcat. "Guest's" posting was removed a couple of minutes after I had posted mine. Thanks, Mudcat Moderator. |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: VirginiaTam Date: 16 May 09 - 12:40 PM We received the BNP leaflet today. It went straight into the bin. It's bad enough that I shout at the telly and radio 4 - without standing in the kitchen shouting at a piece of paper too! We shout at Radio 4 and the news on telly too, when racists bastards are permitted airtime. I bet the neighbors do wonder. |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: VirginiaTam Date: 16 May 09 - 12:42 PM Meant to say also and clicked befroe typing it.. we should use those leaflets to collect dog poo and put them back through the letter boxes of know BNP members. Oh NO! I did not wirte that out loud! |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 16 May 09 - 12:54 PM Please Post a few links to the BNP party sites There's already been a published link to a BNP site in this thread, gargoyle. And in any sense there's a useful resource called Google. |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: Llanfair Date: 16 May 09 - 01:04 PM Unfortunately, Nick Griffin lives in the next village to me in Mid-Wales. Soon after we moved here, 13 years ago, we had some literature through the door with all the holocaust denial stuff as well as the usual BNP propaganda. I have to admit I was sickened, wondering what kind of place we'd come to. It turned out that all the locals despised him, and all he stands for. Still do. It always amazes me how many BT vans there are in this rural area, and I suspect that he is being VERY closely watched. I don't think he's going to usurp our Lembit any time soon. |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: VirginiaTam Date: 16 May 09 - 01:09 PM gurgly is a big boy and knows how to search for things hisself |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: Frozen Gin (inactive) Date: 16 May 09 - 01:20 PM I don,t have a problem posting a link to the BNP, so those who wish my know more about this insidious politcal presence (know your enemy) BNP |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: Fred McCormick Date: 17 May 09 - 05:05 AM Here's what the BNP Activists Handbook has to say on the subject of St Georges Day and other "cultural events". ST GEORGE'S DAY: Ideally our units will lead their communities in organising, or at least supporting cultural events such as St. George's Day celebrations (April 23d). Most regions of the country have cultural events which are unique to that area, or county. For example, the Padstow Hobby Horse in Cornwall, Arbor Day in Shropshire, Garland King Day and the Well Dressing in Derbyshire, the Marshfield Mummers in Wiltshire, the Haxey Hood in Humberside and countless others. Some such celebrations, now very popular, have only been revived in recent years - the Hastings Jack in the Green and Whittlesey Straw Bear festivals show just how big such things can get. Why not do some research to see if there's a lost local tradition that you can inspire a team of enthusiasts to revive? Our ancient national festivals, such as May Day, Guy Fawkes Night and Christmas, should also be staunchly supported - lest the PC lunatic health and safety police and the Islamists manage to ban them all. Maybe it's encouraging to realise that this bunch of "patriots" don't even know the geography of the country they claim to defend. "Somewhere in England", presumably. |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: GUEST,Al Date: 17 May 09 - 05:54 AM Why are so many down on the BNP ? I have always been a Labour voter, I will be voting BNP from now on. Their politics are clear, Britain needs this party now more than ever. And there are a lot more like me out there. This country is in a mess and there is no point in closing the door on a dirty room, get in there and clean it out. |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: Paul Burke Date: 17 May 09 - 07:00 AM Because they are racists. If you can't see the problem with racism, you aren't as clever as you think. Example: Yugoslavia used to be a thriving, modern, industrial country. Then they got a leader who tried to run it for the benefit of "proper European" Serbs and not the "Turk" Moslems. Result? War. Country wrecked. No Yugoslavia. Everybody poorer except the warlords and drug smugglers. Example: Rwanda. nuff said. If you complain that they are all immigrants and have no links with Britain, how do you think Britain got rich? Hint- we had an Empire. They were rich before that. You say you used to be a Labour voter; so did I, since I first voted in 1971, and I can't imagine circumstances that would persuade me to vote for that unprincipled bunch again. But I'm not going to vote for some other unprincipled bunch either. If racism doesn't offend you, you are inviting others to discriminate against yourself. Sauce for the goose and all that. Have it that way if you want, but don't start whinging when you find you're not one of the in crowd. The Labour party lost its principles when they tried to pretend that class doesn't exist, and were happy to join the ranks of the rich. The split is between over- entitled and ordinary folk, not between British and foreign. Do you really think you have more in common with Fred Goodwin or Richard Branson than with an Asian warehouse stacker, a Chinese cockle picker or a Polish farm labourer? |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: Fred McCormick Date: 17 May 09 - 07:14 AM Paul. Well said. But don't let disgust with Labour put you off voting in the Euro elections. Don't forget, because the results are based on proportional representation, plus massive voter apathy the BNP only need a tiny upswing from the (approx) 4% they got last time to start securing seats. I am totally pissed off with the labour Party at present - and to make things worse they are the ruling group on my local council, which is currently closing no less than 49 Leisure and Cultural facilities, despite the deafening howls of protest from their electorate. Nevertheless, I shall be in the polling booth on June 4th and I shall find somebody - anybody - to vote for, just to keep those bastards out of the european Parliament. |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: GUEST,peterfirth Date: 17 May 09 - 07:51 AM On my too few visits to the UK, my arguments with members of this racist organization have been over the questions of,firstly, how far back in time does this "Englishness" go and secondly, what is England going to do with all the repatriated whites that are going to arrive from Australia, USA, Canada, and South Africa as these countries also adopt BNP policies for their own indiginous people. |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: GUEST,Al Date: 17 May 09 - 08:10 AM Paul, I also pity the BNP for having to put up with the media's unrelenting smear campaign. Why are so many people against talking to them. A few years ago our government was talking to Sinn fein while they were killing our soldiers ! These people knew the identities of terroists. But our government still spoke to them !!! Is the BNP worse than that??? I feel the other parties have lost touch with the working man. In my situation at present The place where I work we are being replaced from our jobs by eastern block cheap labour. But my council tax, household bills still rise. Britain I agree is a multi cutural society but we have gone too PC worried about offending other faiths at christmas and all manner of things we read about in the media !!! If they don't want to follow our culture and laws . Why do they still want to live in the uk?? When I worked in Saudi I have had to follow their customs and laws and had to respect them. As I was I their country ! ! Why is that different to the uk where we are so afraid of offending other faiths etc ?? It will be a protest to the other parties to wake up and think of us first. The working man of the UK.I would never have considered voting for them before, but I can understand the reasons people are voting for them,as enough is enough on immigration. Gordon Brown can't even house the population of this country.its appalling let's hope he listens b4 its too late. I think BNP will take a suprising number of votes. Perhaps then people will listen and Labour will realise that this country should not be seen as a Utopia for people from other countries. |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: Paul Burke Date: 17 May 09 - 08:36 AM You've forgotten the basics of solidarity Al. It's NOT with bosses, however white they may be, it's with working folk, whatever their origins. I'm descended from "economic migrants"- Irish ones- and I dare say you are. "They" do adopt our customs, far more than you may think, and the different religion is no more shhocking today than my own abncestors' Catholicism was to a mostly- Protestant country. The same arguments about "tem" taking over were forwarded at the time of the Catholic emancipation debates almost 200 years ago. Since it's a folk forum: My union's flag has two joined hands With lighted flame in common fight, But trouble's brewing in the sheds For both those workers' hands are white. But workers' hands are white and black And the work they do is all the same, Till prejudice and fear come in To break the grip and dim the flame. The shunters broke that grip one day- The King's Cross goods yard went on strike, Not in a fight for better pay, But a coloured man they did not like. They did not like that coloured man- They would not work with him, they said, In truth it touched their overtime And to a colour bar it led. The colour bar strikers soon went back, Jim Figgins led the NUR, And when they asked for his support, He said "We'll have no colour bar." "Get back to work!" Jim Figgins cried, "This is a strike we'll not support, This is the kind of ignorance That the unions have always fought!" But though the union won that fight The pressure's there and rising higher. Smoke rises in the engine sheds And where ther's smoke, there's always fire. Man, don't let smoke get in your eyes, Kindle that flame and keep it bright. To proud traditions still be true And make those joined hands black and white. 1959 I believe- anyone know who wrote it?
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: GUEST,Ifor Date: 17 May 09 - 09:45 AM To Al, Its not a smear to report the FACTS about the BNP. It is packed with fascists,Racist and violent thugs.It was formed out of the remains of the extremely thuggish National Front in the early 1980s and has only ever had two leaders. The first one John Tyndall was an open and brazen nazi and can be seen in full nazi uniform on "google images".Go on take a look at it and then come tell us if it is a smear.He had six serious convictions for race hate crimes,violent assaults and belonging to a paramilitary organisation. His successor ,Nick Griffin,is an ex public schoolboy who has been involved in racist activities since his teenage years.He can also be seen on "google images" wearing his white power T shirt.He has a conviction for holocaust denial and incitement to racial hatred under his rather large belt. But the BNP is stuffed with these unsavoury thugs from top to bottom."Searchlight" is a good source of info about this horrible organisation but readers could also try "Hope Not Hate" or the "Unite Against Fascism" website. Searchlight is good because it has a huge archive about the far right which goes back several decades. ifor |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: GUEST,Al Date: 17 May 09 - 10:29 AM ifor, If you search for things to suit you case,you can find them. Football clubs,political parties, actors and men of the cloth. None of the above from 20 plus years ago would change my views on the party. I do believe people like myself who voted for Labour want to see a change. A lot of people will not openly express their views due to people like you giving history lessons. The ballot box next year will do the talking. There is no political party for the working class, that is fact. |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: VirginiaTam Date: 17 May 09 - 10:40 AM Terrifying thought, former labourites going over to racist BNP. I am very sorry to see it. Hate and fear will never be the answer to any problem. At the moment I am listening to Billy Bragg's Ideology, quite by accident. I am sitll wondering why the lib dems haven't made a stonger move either left or right in order to pick up the disillusioned labour voters or tories? |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: GUEST,Al Date: 17 May 09 - 11:22 AM VT, Lib dems hop on and off the fence, they sway with wind, no one takes them serious. Don't listen to all this rubbish about the BNP, I did at first, I was surprised the number of my friends who voted for them. The young BNP chap on our council is really nice. |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: VirginiaTam Date: 17 May 09 - 11:30 AM A1 - you are barking up the wrong tree. I am one of them foreigners taking a job that should be for a proper born Brit and I am using up NHS resources, lots of them. |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: artbrooks Date: 17 May 09 - 12:18 PM I read this thread with some interest. England (as opposed to Great Britain) is a nation of immigrants, as we are in the US. Granted, it might be that a higher proportion of the immigrants to England came as invaders (e.g., the Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Norse and Normans). If one goes back to prehistory, every single human being there - and here - came from someplace else. What date of entry or degree of pure blood (however they define it) does your BNP require? Or is it a matter of the amount of melanin in a person's skin tone? I am reminded of a story from our bad old days, when a lady from Louisiana who was a stalwart of the Daughters of the Confederacy was discovered to be 1/128 (or maybe it was 1/256) of African descent. Not only was she drummed out of the DofC, but she had to get her driver's license description changed from "White" to "Colored" (antique term). I was down at the Celtic Festival here in Albuquerque yesterday, and had an interesting discussion with a member of a group advocating "English out of Ireland". He really had no answer when I asked him if, after the logical response to that kind of ethnic cleansing occurred, if a hypothetically united Ireland was ready to provide homes for all of the individuals of Irish or partially Irish descent who were evicted from England. Maybe the population of Belfast and Liverpool could just swap? I don't envy you your BNP problem, and I won't for a second suggest that our equivalents aren't just as bad, if not worse. |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: GUEST,Al Date: 17 May 09 - 12:48 PM I think most skip the history lessons and eat what is on their plate today,not what was in the larder 30 years ago. Most people view the scenery outside their own front door today, few besides yourself lives their life going through old photograph albums. The Labour party was once the party of the working class. You could not place a hair between them and the torys now. Many feel our government has lost the plot and are looking a party that puts British working class needs first. I really wish you would stop trying to blacken the name of this party. MPs from all sides recognise that they are likely to be victims of an anti-politics vote in the European and county council elections.The establishment would have you vote for absolutely anyone except the BNP. You would have to be pretty stupid if you didn't understand that the way to really protest and give the establishment a kicking was to BNP. Yes I am proud to be British, is that so wrong ? |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: Paul Burke Date: 17 May 09 - 01:50 PM My bullshit filter tells me we haven't got a Labour defector here, but a party troll- perhaps our old friend of a couple of years ago. People who are disaffected with the Labour party don't bellyache about history lessons. History is the very stuiff of the Labour movement. I'm sorry for wasting time on him. |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: Nigel Parsons Date: 17 May 09 - 02:00 PM To answer a comment in the original post: IE., the BNP have set up something called The English Fair Fund. This is to "give grants to help local community groups celebrate St. Georges Day". No mention of the other Patron Saints' days of these isles. No mention of St Andrew, St David & St Patrick because (as it says) it is the "English Fair Fund" |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: Frozen Gin (inactive) Date: 17 May 09 - 02:10 PM From: GUEST,Al - PM Date: 17 May 09 - 05:54 AM Why are so many down on the BNP ? I have always been a Labour voter, I will be voting BNP from now on. Their politics are clear, Britain needs this party now more than ever. And there are a lot more like me out there. This country is in a mess and there is no point in closing the door on a dirty room, get in there and clean it out. Wind up merchant, ignore it. |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: GUEST,Al Date: 17 May 09 - 02:21 PM I am sorry you both feel that way. I repeat, I have always voted Labour. I have never voted BNP. Yes I do intend to in June. Clearly you are both Labour party diehards or wearing blinkers. I hope to see you both after the council elections in June. |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: Paul Burke Date: 17 May 09 - 02:31 PM A quick click on your name reveals that you have been peddling the same crap for several years. You're simply a liar. Sad for the previous, American, Guest Al whose name you usurped.
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: SPB-Cooperator Date: 17 May 09 - 02:34 PM If you support white supremism, then that is your prerogative. if you support a party that makes devisive statements designed to divide one disadvantaged group against another, that's your prerogative. If you want to uphold promotion of race hate (and other minority hate) that's your prerogative. If you want to support a party that upholds views similar to another party that led to the deaths of tens of millions in the last century, that's your prerogative. But do n't expect to get that many friends here. if you want to support a party that upholds the above just to make a protest vote. it is the actions of people like you that allow evil to get a foothold. |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: GUEST,Al Date: 17 May 09 - 02:36 PM Sorry, that's not me. Check and you will find it's a common enough name. You may wish to attempt to discredit me, that is meaningless. Seems I got to you Paul. |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: Frozen Gin (inactive) Date: 17 May 09 - 02:39 PM "if you want to support a party that upholds the above just to make a protest vote. it is the actions of people like you that allow evil to get a foothold." please remember that Adolf Hitler was elected democratically. |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: SPB-Cooperator Date: 17 May 09 - 02:59 PM Please remember that the Nazis started off as a minority party. Once such parties begin getting seats their agenda moves from back rooms to public debating chambers. Watch the GLA webcasts. Whenever BArnbrook opens his mouth he adds racist overtones to his comments, for instance, he will talk about black crime statisitics, but no mention of white crime .. surprise surprise. Once extreme views get into the mainstream, goalposts start moving - just a little at a time until issues that have once been extremist, get more and more into the centre ground. |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 17 May 09 - 03:30 PM ""Why are so many down on the BNP ? I have always been a Labour voter, I will be voting BNP from now on. Their politics are clear, Britain needs this party now more than ever. And there are a lot more like me out there. This country is in a mess and there is no point in closing the door on a dirty room, get in there and clean it out."" My friend, you are reacting in exactly the same way that the population of Germany was persuaded to act in very similar economic circumstances in 1933. That reaction led directly to the dictatorial government, by decree, of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party, and from that to the Second World War. Make NO mistake about this. Griffen and his cronies are NOT YOUR FRIENDS and they are NOT BRITAIN'S SAVIOURS. They are out and out Nazi racists, and you risk all freedom and security by voting for them. They thrive on the disappointments, and dissatisfaction, of voters, and they profess to care for British people, and the British way of life. They care for nothing but gaining power, and if, God forbid, they ever do, you will find out what it is like to live in a genuine police state with none of the democratic rights you now enjoy. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: Frozen Gin (inactive) Date: 17 May 09 - 03:31 PM Regardless of who you are GUEST Al you're still peddling crap (to use my favourite American term) "Sorry, that's not me." That's what the Germans said at the end of the war, no Nazis here.... |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: VirginiaTam Date: 17 May 09 - 03:43 PM Yes I suppose guest A1 would be an easy alias if one is too cowardly to use own name or a even usual forum identity. If one fiercely believes in what they profess, they stand up to be counted. Maybe A1 is simply posting contentiously in order to see who stands up. |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: GUEST,Al Date: 17 May 09 - 04:08 PM Narrow minds do tend to lead to narrow views. I am allowed an opinion. I do not believe the lies some of you sprout. Labour has failed you, me and the country. When someone like myself adds a comment you do not agree with you hit the insult button. You seem to require help Virginia. Alan Meale |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: Frozen Gin (inactive) Date: 17 May 09 - 04:53 PM Narrow minds, narrow views...yup BNP knows all about those. You seem to require help Virginia..and you're going to lead Virginia into the light, so to speak? I'd laugh my face off if what you're saying wasn't so sad. God, my father would turn in his grave if he knew to what lengths some go on about what he fought to defend during WWII. You can serve us up the BNP propaganda as much as you want (we can also read it on their website). Repeating it over and over is not going to make it any truer. By the way, you speak only for yourself, I hope, don't even profess to speak for me, I've been around the houses more that a few times in my 60 odd years (some of them VERY odd :-D)on this planet. This whole thread is taking on a VERY surreal feel to it...or is it just me? |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: Phil Edwards Date: 17 May 09 - 07:18 PM OK, Al, answer me this. Nick Griffin has said - recently - that the BNP's ultimate aim is the "lawful, humane and voluntary repatriation of the resident foreigners of the UK". And in the category of 'foreigners' he includes people of foreign stock who were born here*. What happens if they don't want to go? What would a BNP government do if it announced its first "lawful, humane and voluntary" repatriation scheme and got no takers? Would they just say "OK, never mind, the offer's there if you want it" and get on with governing an ethnically mixed country? I find that hard to believe. What if the 'resident foreigners' didn't want to go? What if they were quite happy to live in Britain? (They certainly seem quite happy now.) Would the government encourage them to go - a bit of discriminatory legislation here, a few broken windows there? Would they be taken into protective custody and housed in special camps? (Just to protect them from irate true-born Britons, you understand.) You need to think this through. Another question: what are Nick Griffin's views on fascism? I take an interest in Italian politics, and the leader of the National Alliance over there - which is an ex-fascist party - has actually denounced Fascism as "absolute evil". Has Nick Griffin said anything similar? Or is he still a Fascist? *Such as my wife, my children and Prince Charles. |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: Richard Bridge Date: 17 May 09 - 10:40 PM Al - you are right in one thing. We were betrayed by the Fettes publicschoolboy B. Liar who suborned the Labour party. What we now have is actually "New Labour", increasingly in thrall to a creature with "something of the night" about him, as Doris Karloff said - probably her only really good line ever. But conversely the only chance we have of getting the country back is the Labour Party. Your Sieg Heil brigade will destroy. Check the criminal records of some of the senior members. Check the history of Hitler and Mussolini. The real left with real principles is too fragmented to achieve reform (and some of them may not be as principled as we might wish, I always wonder how Galloway affords his suits). Our only chance is to lean on the Labour party to get back to its roots, to pursue the Brown/Obama axis that will have us out of recession before anyone else (except for those with unexposed banking systems who didn't relly go in). |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: Peace Date: 17 May 09 - 11:35 PM Are you THIS Alan Meale? "PROPOSED BRITISH NATIONAL PARTY MARCH IN LIVERPOOL 20:3:09 Mrs Louise Ellman Mrs Ann Cryer Jeremy Corbyn Peter Bottomley Kelvin Hopkins Mr John Leech Mr Martin Caton Graham Stringer Alan Simpson Mr Alan Meale That this House notes the cancellation of the planned march in Liverpool city centre by the British National Party; condemns and opposes the hatred the march was intended to foster; welcomes the campaign against the march supported by the community, local politicians and the North West Trades Union Congress; and thanks all those members of the public on Merseyside who signed the Hope not Hate petition opposing the march, thus ensuring a clear and loud voice against the bigotry of the British National Party." |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: VirginiaTam Date: 18 May 09 - 02:40 AM I did not see any insult in what I said. You might well be really anti BNP and working this thread to see what supporters you can turn out. It could happen. |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: TheSnail Date: 18 May 09 - 04:04 AM Peace Are you THIS Alan Meale? "PROPOSED BRITISH NATIONAL PARTY MARCH IN LIVERPOOL (With links added by me.) Unlikely, I think. I would suggest not bothering to debate with GUEST,Al. |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: Fred McCormick Date: 18 May 09 - 06:02 AM The BNP seems to have a remarkable facility for shooting itself in the foot. First of all, they don't appear to know which counties Marshfield and Haxey are in. Now, the BBC news tells us that the photograph of so called "British workers" shown in their campaign leaflet was in fact posed by American male models. What's more, Re., Emm B's noticing that the Spitfire in their leaflet actually belonged to the Polish Air Force Squadron, I've just found the following on Wikipeadia. "As part of an advertising campaign designed to highlight their concerns about the numbers of foreign workers (including Polish migrants) in the United Kingdom, the British National Party used the distinctly British icon of a Spitfire to illustrate their idea of a Battle for Britain. Ironically, the Spitfire shown in their advertising was RF-D from 303 (Polish) Squadron." |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: GUEST,Wessex Date: 18 May 09 - 07:31 AM Total marxist madness,there is no apparent logic to anything they do,these corrupt ruling liberals of Europe have a massive hidden agenda,and that is to salt away billions of pounds in the guise of foreign aid,the trick has been used successfully many times in he last 40yrs.Today finally the British people have reached a watershed of realisation with regards to politicians during the last few weeks,-established MPs,home grown and European have been exposed by the press to be the crooks and charlatans that the BNP knew they were,-there are still some good ones out here,but they are very thin on the ground, the alternative is a perverse marxist hell that is too horrible to contemplate. |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: Emma B Date: 18 May 09 - 07:48 AM Some things the BNP (and UKIP) don't want you know about the freedom to work and live within the EU 750,000 Britons have made their homes in Spain. (Although it's often thought that most of the British in Spain are retired, around 40 percent are actually under the age of 45 and another 40 percent are in the 45 - 64 age group.) Approximately 200,000 British expatriates live in France 19,000 British citizens have made a permanent move to Italy and around 700,000 Poles live in the UK The freedom to live and work in countries in the EU is not just a 'one way ticket' In addition, an educational approach to teaching the Foundation subjects in culturally diverse primary schools states - 'Challenging misinformation with facts is a sound strategy' and continues.. 'In view of the history of this island, the apparent assumption that the ethnic white majority is NOT of mixed ethnic origins, is intriguing and challenging!' The BNP proganda is seductive in a period of economic crisis but never forget some of the statements from prominent members and leadership "All blacks are muggers, all blacks have got Aids, we want them out of our country, we want white power." - Steve Tyler Party spokesman and councillor candidate for the Fulham Broadway area of London fact - in Newcastle and Glasgow, cities with few blacks, mugging is a white offence. It is also largely a crime of inner cities The Aids statement can simply be dismissed as the racist rubbish it is by looking at any official record of HIV in the UK although the incidence of late diagnosed individuals from high prevalance African countries resident in the UK because of the risk of stigma and discrimination remains a concern for people working in this field |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: Phil Edwards Date: 18 May 09 - 07:53 AM Wessex, would you care to address the questions I put to Al? We all know lots of good reasons to vote against different parties - the question is why anyone should vote for the BNP. I have to say that personally I'm strongly disinclined to vote for any party which I believe would try to deport my wife and children, or any party which I believe would have been on the wrong side in World War II. But maybe I've been misinformed - perhaps what the BNP really believes in is peace, freedom and free beer for all, regardless of race, colour or creed. Can you clarify? |
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Subject: RE: English Fair Fund is BNP Front From: MartinRyan Date: 18 May 09 - 08:02 AM 750,000 Britons have made their homes in Spain. About a year ago, I was sitting in a bar in Gibraltar - full of British ex-pats on nostalgia-trips from across the border in Spain. I overheard one grumbled remark: If I have to live in a multicultural society, it might as well be one where the sun shines!"! Regards |
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