Tech: Browser comparisons - DoH & security

Subject: RE: Tech: Browser comparisons
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 10 Jan 22 - 06:07 PM

Mr. SRS

For me the original standard was     C:<



I was a little "miffed" when the entire dirty throngs came surging in the doors.

It was all well in the end.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

cleaning the "office" I believe I have un-earthed the original 5-1/4 one sided DT floppy disks that Dick sent me. Send in 5 floppies with sase and he would return the entire DT.

Subject: RE: Tech: Browser comparisons
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Jan 22 - 10:05 PM

FYI, it's MS, Garg.

Is that Control+C ? I'm not sure what that command is you're illustrating.

I have one of those 5 1/4 disks here somewhere as a souvenir of my first Eagle 8088, dual floppy computer. Those floppies were $50 for 10. (Used with Wordstar). I bought my first Netscape browser in the early 1990s.

This is down a rabbit hole. Now there are more browsers than you can shake a stick at.

Subject: RE: Tech: Browser comparisons
From: DaveRo
Date: 11 Jan 22 - 03:58 AM

Looked at sideways it could be an angry bull.
But I suspect it's a command prompt: C:>

(I have some 8" floppies somewhere.)

Subject: RE: Tech: Browser comparisons
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Jan 22 - 11:49 AM

Because I was sitting in the room with Dick G. and Susan when the idea of the DT was conceived, I had the 5¼" floppies and later, the small ones.
My wife was a programmer, and we had 5¼" floppies all over. I guess there are still a few in boxes. I even have a WIN 3.1 PC that will take both sizes, and a card reader that will take 3" ones, so theoretically I could manage to move 5¼" data to current PCs. All I need is a serial mouse for the old WIN 3.1... and I know who had some.
   It might be interesting to do..once... but I doubt I'll bother.

(Even have 2 Syquest drives and a Nikon scanner for the 3.1)
Ain't nostalgia...umm.. cluttering?

Subject: RE: Tech: Browser comparisons - DoH & security
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Mar 25 - 06:19 PM

Today I was reading a ZDNet.com article The Firefox I loved is gone - how to protect your privacy on it now about a recent update to Firefox that removed wording about personal data in the Mozilla privacy policy.

For decades, one of Firefox's biggest selling points was that it gave you more privacy than Chrome or Edge. Under this new policy, though, Mozilla claimed: "When you upload or input information through Firefox, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use that information to help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content as you indicate with your use of Firefox."

That's gone over like a lead brick. People believe that Mozilla has granted itself a royalty-free right to anything you type in Firefox. Your data could then be used for advertisers or to train an AI Large Language Model (LLM).

In the bottom of the article is the section "So, what can you do in response?" and one answer is to "Lock down your internet with DNS-over-HTTPS." This isn't something I've considered doing before, so I'm looking around for more information about it. And that brought me to discussion of other browsers that I've never tried.

Other articles I've looked at include Here's how to enable DoH in each browser, ISPs be damned
DoH support is already present in all major browsers. Users just have to enable it and configure it.

The best secure browsers for privacy: Expert tested
If you are looking for a secure browser, you must focus on privacy. The best options include ad blockers, private searches, and more.

These browsers include Brave, DuckDuckGo, Tor, Mullvad, and Firefox is on the list. Some of these browsers strike me as very intense, more work than one who does general homeowner kinds of stuff needs.

Thoughts? And is there a benefit to setting up DoH in each browser? What are the downsides? Have you tried any of those other browsers?

Subject: RE: Tech: Browser comparisons - DoH & security
From: DaveRo
Date: 05 Mar 25 - 02:45 AM

That Terms of Use announcement was a gaffe. Mozilla had to issue a 'clarification'. But the damage was done.

But just yesterday:
Firefox 136 finally brings the features that fans wanted

After the announcement of Mozilla's new terms of use, we suspect many disappointed users will look elsewhere, but we feel Firefox – or one of its derivatives – remains the best browser option. As The Register warned last month, this week's new version of Google Chrome disables uBlock Origin. In time, this change will likely make its way downstream to other Chromium-based browsers. One of those is Microsoft Edge, which has started switching off uBlock Origin and other Manifest V2-based extensions. Brave is another Chromium browser but has its own ad blocking built-in.

One remaining option for Chrome users is the less-capable uBlock Origin Lite.

The unrestricted uBlock Origin still works fine in Firefox, as well as its various downstream browsers such as LibreWolf – version 136 of which will no doubt appear soon. As before, Waterfox remains based on the ESR edition of Firefox – currently, that means Firefox 128.

The absolute worst browser for privacy is Chrome. But that's what most people use. It's the default on Android and most people stick with the default. I don't think most users are bothered about privacy, at least not to the extent of doing anything about it. And browsers are less important on mobile as the big sites move everything into an app and smaller sites use Facebook.

I've not configured DoH; I suppose I ought to.

Subject: RE: Tech: Browser comparisons - DoH & security
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Mar 25 - 10:04 PM

A fellow Mudcatter (Bill D) always has interesting files and programs to try, and one he recommended this week is the SRWare Iron browser. Has anyone else used it? What do you like about it?

Subject: RE: Tech: Browser comparisons - DoH & security
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 04 Oct 25 - 07:26 AM

Three and a half years on and I’m still using The Duck. It’s come a long way in those three years.

Subject: RE: Tech: Browser comparisons - DoH & security
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Oct 25 - 10:51 AM

Fixed the typo to my ZDNet link a couple of posts up.

I installed SRWare but keep forgetting to try it.

I use Duck Duck Go as a search engine on another browser, but not often. Must check these out more.