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Shunning: a Cure for Trolls
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: Ebbie Date: 16 Sep 04 - 04:56 PM (HI, Cluin!) |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: Little Hawk Date: 16 Sep 04 - 04:58 PM Well, Cluin, I await your every post with bated breath. |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: Cluin Date: 16 Sep 04 - 05:01 PM Don't bate yer breath for me, LH. I won't do ya any good. (Hi, Ebbie) |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: wysiwyg Date: 16 Sep 04 - 05:03 PM My concern is this-- keeping in mind the thread title is "A Cure for Trolls." (And was "The xxx xxx Problem." Kinda the same titling basis IMO.) The issue for me is not curing them-- that's their lookout. I don't want to/need to/plan to control/fix/change the actions of trolls. The issue for me is curing MY reaction to them, and I have had a pretty good handle on that for quite some time. (Some days a better one, some days worse.) We each have to find outr own way toward that, if and when it's an issue for us. Let's get real. For some people it's not an issue. For some people, Mudcat brawls are part of getting their blood pumping around inside their tired old bodies and their fuzzy brain chemistry. (See the threads about depression-- it's not just ME "diagnosing" this... it's what people have said about themselves.) And I also know for a fact, by what certain members have said, that for them it's a way to get their testosterone upped by winning over another competitive male. And testosterone is essential to normal brain function, too. I don't find it a particularly GOOD way to unfuzz, but some people apparently rely on it, and thats' THEIR lookout. Don't most of us joke about Mudcat addiction? Well, there is a good amount of truth to that. Mudcatting does affect brain chemistry, and how it affects it has a lot to do with how one conducts oneself here. Mudcat can be calming to some, energizing to some, enervating to others. Some folks aim it or receive it as a healing energy. Some aim it or receive it as a hurting energy. Some don't aim or receive at all and just "are." The point we all have in common-- in what we've said in this thread-- I think, is that we all have some choice in what we ourselves do. Can we just agree that this is what has been said in common, and that it is actually a really important point in itself as well as a big piece of common ground? If we stopped judging one another, we might actually notice that common ground. I can already hear the usual replies- "yabbut!" ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: Don Firth Date: 16 Sep 04 - 05:16 PM When Lake Union starts coming in the front door, it's pretty sobering--provided you're sober enough to notice it before you have to begin treading water. I remember one hoot in one of the smaller Lake Union houseboats when the lake started coming in the front door because the weight of everone in the living room unbalance the houseboat. Ken Manus, the host, managed to re-balance it by rolling his wife's piano into the bathroom. The piano wasn't that big (standard upright), but the bathroom was very small. It was a little hard to be unobtrusive about having to use the facilities when a couple of bully-boys had to roll the piano back out of the bathroom and several people had to move into the kitchen to keep the place balanced. The guys usually stepped "outside for a smoke." Even the ones who didn't smoke. But one of the nice parts about hoots on houseboats was that if you had to throw somebody out, they made such a satifying splash! Great times, those! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: GUEST,Noddy Date: 16 Sep 04 - 05:18 PM "Oh...the ER-i-eee was a'risin'...and the gin was a-gittin' low..." |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: Deckman Date: 16 Sep 04 - 05:29 PM Don ... and don't ferget the "goof with the gun!!!!" Bob |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: Bill D Date: 16 Sep 04 - 05:57 PM geez, Don & Deckman....youse guys had more...umm..'interesting' hoots than we did in Kansas.....mostly.....*grin*...there was the time the local toughs showed up...(professional party crashers) and were discouraged by a detailed explanation of the use of a banjo neck as a suppository, as well as one of our crowd who looked like a gorilla and did karate demos.... oh, yeah...we sang sometimes, too... |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: Deckman Date: 16 Sep 04 - 06:23 PM Bill D ... I was stuck one winter in Indianpollis! Being desperate for companship, I accepted every musical invite that happened. I think your state was very close to where I was! In fact, I think I remember that hoot! Was that the same gathering where the fellow suddenly became a somprano and there was a very messy banjo for sale the next week? Bob |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: Don Firth Date: 16 Sep 04 - 06:24 PM I wish I could locate the author of The Ballad of Giddings' Fall and get his permission to post the song. Last I heard, he was living on the Oregon coast someplace Epic! Most of the action took place on a Lake Union houseboat. [I may do it anyway.] Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: Deckman Date: 16 Sep 04 - 06:37 PM A truly unique NorthWest ballad. Written by Robert G (Gates) Clarke. I think Sandy was there when it happened. I know that I was not ... I was still partying with my Highline High School teachers, and I had just graduated!!! "Those were the days, my friends, I thought they'd never end, I thought they'd last forever and a day...." Oh well, back to business! Bob (Don, why don't you and I sneak out back and share a Herbert Terrible) |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: pdq Date: 16 Sep 04 - 07:19 PM See, without Martin Gibson this love fest would not have been possible. There may be a madness to his method! |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: Deckman Date: 16 Sep 04 - 07:21 PM Martin who? |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: Paco Rabanne Date: 17 Sep 04 - 05:45 AM Come on cluin! I need to hear from you! |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: 42 Date: 17 Sep 04 - 07:14 AM trolls are people too. just because they lurk under bridges and threaten travellers doesn't mean we have to wait for our bigger brothers to come along. don't change your journey to avoid the confrontation...just outwit them. j |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: The Shambles Date: 17 Sep 04 - 07:38 AM Deckman, several years ago in a similar situation I suggested the same proposal you made. Someone - I think, McGrath of Harlow- gently reminded me that if we all do that, the offending party(ies) may be motivated to post in every thread, in order to shut down the entire Cat. Needless to say, we didn't do it. Whoever reminded you obviously have a better idea that was put into place and which HAS worked then??????*Smiles* We do have a better plan now Ebbie. Entire threads will be closed or deleted because our volunteers do not see that they should take the time to edit only the posts they judge to be too offensive to remain. As pointed out - the suggestion works for Deckman. It works for me and it plainly works for the vast majority of contributors. It must do for if they all felt the need to respond in kind or respond at all - the whole forum would be very quickly lost to everyone. These folk are at this moment posting away quite oblivious of all this........ People who do respond to our vandals, especially those who respond in kind, owe the rest 'big time' for allowing them the space for their self-indulgence to feed and encourage the monkeys. It is too the great credit of the majority that they do not follow the example set by our volunteers and certain favoured posters who consider that they alone can make offensive personal attacks upon other posters, and still maintain the moral high ground. If our volunteers are now publicly stating that from this point they will not indulge in this offensive public responding in kind (no matter how provoked and under attack or on trial they may feel) there maybe some hope. Are they now prepared to set this far better example than the one set in the past? Our volunteers fight to protect us from personal attacks does not protect us from personal judgement and attacks from our volunteers - like the following few selected examples from Joe Offer. Shambles, go whine somewhere else, or maybe we should start threads about you and the sheep or something. But Shambles believes in this sort of thing, so I think that maybe this would be a good opportunity to smear his reputation. Shambles, I'm sick of you and your shit. Ah, Shambles - we make an exception for you, since you seem to think it's a good thing to have personal attacks. We want to keep you happy, after all. Your whining is so annoying. |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 17 Sep 04 - 07:50 AM Fair enough. |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: MAG Date: 17 Sep 04 - 10:58 AM I think it would be worth the drive from the Dry Side for one of those hoots. Can you put me on the invite list?? |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: Once Famous Date: 17 Sep 04 - 04:38 PM Deckman I don't believe you are playing with a full deck. You know, I could post to most every thread here, tell them I think you have the opinion of a guy playing without a full deck. Please, you need a life, or at least to get laid once in a while. |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: Once Famous Date: 17 Sep 04 - 05:01 PM Don and Deckman, why don't you PM each other instead of boring everyone here with your boring lives? |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: Stilly River Sage Date: 17 Sep 04 - 05:27 PM Aw, Martin, be patient. Those are great stories. I'm coming late to this thread. Old parties and hoots do constitute thread drift, they're pretty well embedded in this thread now. . . Bob, I knew a "teacher from Highline High School" myself--he must have been at that party? And then later, as a teacher at Everett Junior College, the party crowd probably shifted. . . I have a book here that he checked out from the Highline Library and never returned. [sigh] What a fine that will be! (It's the little Penguin Book of English Folk Songs, ed. by Vaughan Williams. SRS |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: GUEST Date: 17 Sep 04 - 05:30 PM Ah, the evil one himself finally makes an appearance. Now we should shun this thread. |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: Once Famous Date: 17 Sep 04 - 05:36 PM If "We" is everyone, there will be no left here but me because I just might post to every thread. |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: Once Famous Date: 17 Sep 04 - 05:39 PM Hi How's everyone doing? I'm just hanging out here. Want to chat? No, than who cares? |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: GUEST Date: 17 Sep 04 - 05:46 PM You're just so arrogant that you might actually do something as stupid as post to every thread. |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: Once Famous Date: 17 Sep 04 - 05:48 PM Awwww, shucks. I wouldn't do that. Not EVERY thread, asshole. Maybe it was your idea or Deckman's that was stupid. Maybe you are the same person or at least butt buddies. |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: GUEST Date: 17 Sep 04 - 06:03 PM Seattle is too far for me to go, but like MAG, I would sure like to be at some of the "hoots" those folks have. They sound like real fun. I think Martin Baboon is jealous that he doesn't get invited to things like that. I'll bet he doesn't get invited to ANYTHING. If he thinks Deckman doesn't have a full deck, he should show up sometime and let throw him off of it. THAT would make, as Don Firth says, "a satisfying splash." |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 17 Sep 04 - 06:34 PM Reading posts by ** in order to complain about them seems a bit masochistic. Just slide on past them, and leave them for those who like stuff like that. There's a story about a seaside resident who complained about nude bathing on the beach. "But it's so far away you'd need a telescope to see them." "Young man, I have a telescope." Maybe it'd be pleasanter without **, or preferably if ** gave up on the style of posting that people have complained about, since I gather there's another side to the person involved, who has said it's all a pose anyway (as a flasher might reasonably point out). But there'll always be someone filling this kind of role from time to time. Just not worth getting in a state over it. At least, when it's someone with a name it's easy enough to make a detour round the posts they make, and that's something to be grateful for. |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: GUEST,matai Date: 17 Sep 04 - 09:00 PM It is very interesting reading a thread like this because as usual each posting just reflects the people who post and really says nothing about the trolls, scapegoats, unpleasant persons, etc. Perhaps a thread where everyone tries to be the most awful troll possible might have some affect. Then again how about a humanitarian approach where just the good bits of annoying persons are responded to and if they don't have any good bits misinterpret something they say as being good. Karl Rogers reflecting back technique might be a good one: Troll: You are all just a shit-load of hot air and flabby flesh. Response: Troll, you feel like a shit-load of hot air and flabby flesh. I'm sorry to hear this. Or, if it gets too much I guess ignoring them is the only possible alternative. matai |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 17 Sep 04 - 09:12 PM "Trolling: a Cure for Shunning" |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 17 Sep 04 - 09:16 PM GUEST,matae
Brillant observation, in retrospect, it has been the wonderful Christian forgiveness of the MC officials(how about an approach where just the good bits of annoying persons are responded to....) that has transformed me into the noble creature I am today.
I like Mr. Gibson, even though he appears to have usurped the troll-throne.
Sincerely,
Carry On - Mr. Gibson, if fur isn't rubbed backwards or a few pompos feathers ruffeled....this would not be the murderous-muddy-backwaters-gin-joint...it is world famous for. |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: Once Famous Date: 17 Sep 04 - 11:28 PM Cool, Gargoyle. As for Guest, I am playing so much as an invited player and involved in so many jam sessions as either a guitarist, banjoist, or bassist, I am spending way too much money on strings as they wear out.. So,if you were a betting person, better yet,if I am a betting person, which I do every now and then, I would figure that you play a cheap guitar and can't carry a tune except in your own mind when you are drunk on that cheap shit you drink and do not piss out of your system. Rather, it comes skunkily through your pores, especially your anal pore. |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: GUEST,matai Date: 18 Sep 04 - 12:05 AM If I were running this website, which I know I'm not, I would most likely ban someone who incessantly talked to people as above. Is this possible? Why should he/she continue to have a forum for this kind of abuse? |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 18 Sep 04 - 12:35 AM You need to invest in Titanium strings - better and CHEAPER in the long runs down the bridge.
Sincerely,
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 18 Sep 04 - 12:39 AM IF your have Saudi roots and know of a "legitimate" process for reclaiming ethonyl from piss....please contribute.....With the coolr wether our six-fold runds could become 3 or even more a day.
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: GUEST,matai Date: 18 Sep 04 - 01:24 AM Very funny. Thanks Gargoyle. I'm way too sensitive at times. Pissing under the grapefruit tree helps with an abundance of fruit which brew into a very interesting form of brandy. But you need a long hallway. |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: GUEST,matai Date: 18 Sep 04 - 02:03 AM And a staircase so the alcohol can travel up-wards. Folkies are so beautiful and so open to including inexperienced musicians. |
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Subject: RE: Shunning: a Cure for Trolls From: GUEST,Martian Gibbon Date: 18 Sep 04 - 05:03 AM The Cure actually made a significant contribution to the music industry. |
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