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Subject: RE: Sea Chanteys/Shanties page-Gibb Sahib From: Lighter Date: 04 Mar 13 - 08:02 PM Go here and listen to Ewan MacColl describing shanties briefly to an audience in October, 1953: http://www.tobarandualchais.co.uk/en/fullrecord/61808/3 He claims that editors removed not only all the obscenity (which he implies was the usual subject of shanties) and (rather oddly, even for a Marxist) all references to hard work. The same excellent site has him singing a few shanties, evidently at the same recording session. (His intro to "Paddy Doyle" combines Doyle with Paddy West.) MacColl already has traces of the "Hugill style," or so it seems to me. If so, the question is where he got it from. |
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Subject: RE: Sea Chanteys/Shanties page-Gibb Sahib From: Snuffy Date: 05 Mar 13 - 08:58 AM Werry well done, Jim Crow is obviously cast in the same mould as Dr Eisenbart which Wikipedia dates as "around 1800". The chorus of the lyrics quoted on the German Wikipedia are Gloria, Viktoria, widewidewitt juchheirassa!Although it does not specifically state that these are the original words, it seems likely that Victoria was already in the song long before either the future Queen or Jim Crow were born. |
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Subject: RE: Sea Chanteys/Shanties page-Gibb Sahib From: Lighter Date: 05 Mar 13 - 09:46 AM > it seems likely that Victoria was already in the song The *German* song. What would be of some interest would be the pre-1865 lyrics of "Werry well done, Jim Crow" and knowledge of when it appeared. Surely Burnand was not referring to the shanty itself, which seems to have been both scandalous and known to few play-goers. |
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Subject: RE: Sea Chanteys/Shanties page-Gibb Sahib From: Gibb Sahib Date: 14 Mar 13 - 04:26 AM New chanty videos. [Walk Along, You] Saucy Anna Tiddy-I-O Tally-i-o, You Know Diana Hey, Diana Ho Down Below (Sandfly Marriage) |
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Subject: RE: Sea Chanteys/Shanties page-Gibb Sahib From: Gibb Sahib Date: 29 Mar 13 - 05:00 PM The mix is getting eclectic as I pick on bits and bobs. The famous Civil War era tune... Johnny, Fill Up the Bowl Roustabout song... Oh, Annie, Oh! A chanty from Trinidad... Heave Her Away, Miss Nancy O And from the Great Lakes... The Ward Line (I've needed to do lots of overdubbing in audio rather than video software in order to get the "overlapping call and response" effect, hence the sometimes strange B-roll visuals.) |
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Subject: RE: Sea Chanteys/Shanties page-Gibb Sahib From: ChanteyLass Date: 29 Mar 13 - 10:00 PM I hope Mudcat's Mainers hear this and read the info you posted on YouTube! |
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Subject: RE: Sea Chanteys/Shanties page-Gibb Sahib From: Gibb Sahib Date: 03 Apr 13 - 02:32 PM Thanks, ChanteyLass! *** Couple new ones (+ more unusual meerschaum pipes): Uncharacteristically syncopated (maybe, Calypso-like) Juliana This is closest to the familiar "Same Gone Away [aboard a Man o' War]" Tom Gone Away |
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Subject: RE: Sea Chanteys/Shanties page-Gibb Sahib From: Gibb Sahib Date: 08 Apr 13 - 04:46 AM From the Great Lakes: In a Handy Four-master From Anguilla: We All Goin' Ashore |
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Subject: RE: Sea Chanteys/Shanties page-Gibb Sahib From: Gibb Sahib Date: 15 Apr 13 - 04:03 AM The familiar song, re-visiting the sources... Strike the Bell Some unfamiliar Anguilla songs... Dio, the Tree Fall Down Sundown, I'm Goin' Home One of my least favorite chanties (!) Bounty Was a Packet Ship And a sweet Samoan chorus Tofa Mai Feleni |
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Subject: RE: Sea Chanteys/Shanties page-Gibb Sahib From: Gibb Sahib Date: 29 Apr 13 - 06:29 AM Some fresh work-songs, sailor items, and lotsa pipes from the collection. From Anguilla: Tom Gone Away Haul 'im Below Ivan Boy You Steal My Ground Great Lakes chanty Heave 'er Up and Bust Her The famous ballad The Stately Southerner |
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Subject: RE: Sea Chanteys/Shanties page-Gibb Sahib From: Gibb Sahib Date: 08 May 13 - 01:11 AM Belly deep in Caribbean chanties this past week. Fight On, the American Bullies Woman Belly Full o' Hair See Mi Nanny O |
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Subject: RE: Sea Chanteys/Shanties page-Gibb Sahib From: Charley Noble Date: 08 May 13 - 08:49 PM Excellent work, Gibb. Will we be seeing you again at Mystic this June? Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: Sea Chanteys/Shanties page-Gibb Sahib From: Gibb Sahib Date: 08 May 13 - 11:44 PM Hi Charley, I'm in California this year and I can't make it to Mystic. I'll be sorry to miss it. Within a few days after Mystic, too, I have to travel to Scandinavia—for business, but I do hope to check out some of the maritime culture in Göteborg and/or Copenhagen and/or Hamburg, depending on time. I'm also hoping to attend the San Francisco Maritime program later in the summer, where I'm sure I'll see many of the Mystic regulars. Have fun! |
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Subject: RE: Sea Chanteys/Shanties page-Gibb Sahib From: ChanteyLass Date: 09 May 13 - 12:20 AM We'd have more fun if you could be there. Maybe next year . . . . |
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Subject: RE: Sea Chanteys/Shanties page-Gibb Sahib From: Wotcha Date: 09 May 13 - 07:44 AM Having spent 2 years in Stavanger, Norway let me commend the Irishman Pub which has a traditional session/singaround once a month. The house band -- The Harbour Folk Band -- is comprised of a mix of Norwegians and expats: 2 CDs available for purchase there. If you are feeling adventurous and looking for something different Stord Island, just south of Bergen, is home to the group Storm Weather Shanty Choir. They have performed in the States. Saw them on stage in Stavanger during the Tall Ships Race in 2011. A cross between Great Big Sea and a heavy metal band (in appearance at least). Med venlig hilsen Brian |
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Subject: RE: Sea Chanteys/Shanties page-Gibb Sahib From: Gibb Sahib Date: 13 May 13 - 02:11 AM Thanks for the recommendation, Brian. *** Here's a comparative "study" of six variations of "Yankee John, Stormalong". Yankee John |
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Subject: RE: Sea Chanteys/Shanties page-Gibb Sahib From: Gibb Sahib Date: 22 May 13 - 06:55 PM I still find myself jumping around haphazardly. Still plenty of material to try out. From the Great Lakes: Goodbye, My Lover, Goodbye From Lomax's 1962 Caribbean tour: I Spend 40 Shilling Caesar, Boy, Caesar And from Abrahams' Caribbean collection: Hell of a Wedding Caesar, oh, Caesar (Thomas Sailor Run 'way) The version in Bullen's collection of one of the best yet, strangely, often overlooked chanties: Roll the Cotton Down And one of the "fag ends" from Hugill's "Bosun's Locker" articles: Rolling Home (Scandinavian capstan version) |
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Subject: RE: Sea Chanteys/Shanties page-Gibb Sahib From: Gibb Sahib Date: 13 Jun 13 - 11:49 PM Headed for a dry spell as I get busy with other things, but here are some additions to the project since last time. Caribbean chanties. From Nevis: Caesar, Boy, Caesar From Anguilla: I want no more coil rope Two related ballads: Constitution and Guerriere Shannon and Chesapeake Some stuff from Hugill's _Bosun's Locker_ that was not in his SfSS collection: Bound for South Australia Hieland Laddie - 'American Version' Navy work-songs, "chippers" Eight Bells |
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Subject: RE: Sea Chanteys/Shanties page-Gibb Sahib From: Gibb Sahib Date: 11 Jul 13 - 07:20 AM Stevedore song: Way Down on Mobile Bay Pile driver song: Nothin' But a Humbug Caribbean items: Bear Away, Yankee (2 variations) Ding Well John John Oh Dan Dan Oh Bulldog Gon' Bite Me Yard O Dutch shanties: Daar Was Eens een Meisje Loos Ballast song (Hoog is de Zolder) |
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Subject: RE: Sea Chanteys/Shanties page-Gibb Sahib From: GUEST,dick greenhaus Date: 11 Jul 13 - 07:41 PM Gibb- Have you considered writing a book? |
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Subject: RE: Sea Chanteys/Shanties page-Gibb Sahib From: Gibb Sahib Date: 05 Aug 13 - 12:29 AM Some of the Caribbean chanties I've learned this past month: Grenada: Shaanydo (Ride Down Trinidad) Time For Man Go Home Hilo, Boy, Hilo Hurroh, My Riley Sound Me, Doctor, Sound Me In My Own Native Land Very Well, Captain, Give the Man a Blow -and- Nancy O, My Diggy Man Tobago: Man o' War Sailor St. Peter Down at Courland Bay Michael Row, the Boat Ashore Nevis: Oceania -and- Judiano Feeny Brown Long Time Ago Fire Down Below St. Vincent: Sam Gone Away (2 variations) Other Caribbean, from Horace Beck's book: Hilo, Boys, Hilo Long Time Ago Man o' War Sailor Old Moses Blow, Boys, Blow |
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Subject: RE: Sea Chanteys/Shanties page-Gibb Sahib From: Hesk Date: 03 Sep 13 - 05:56 AM Gibb, When you say you've learnt up to 80 new ones, in what sense learnt? Do you mean that you can sing them, remembering all the words? If so, that is a remarkable feat. I have a problem learning one a year! |
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Subject: RE: Sea Chanteys/Shanties page-Gibb Sahib From: Gibb Sahib Date: 03 Sep 13 - 07:21 PM Hi Hesk, Haha yeah, I hear you! The number certainly is not important — just me being a little dramatic and showboat-y...fun with numbers. Realistically, the songs I have posted since and including my 13 June post are most of the ones I've learned since Memorial Day / end of May (which I counted up and happened to be around 80 or so). You can see that most of them do not have so many lyrics to memorize, and, as is the case with chanties, many call for ad libbing rather than memorization. The 3 or so sea ballads and the 4-5 foreign language songs were certainly the ones that took the most work to memorize! In any case, yes, i remember the words; I don't look at any papers while I sing. (Also, a quirky personal "rule" of mine: I always stand, never sit, when singing chanties!) I could certainly "learn" the songs better: "living" with the songs longer, singing them more, would result in both deeper understanding and better performances. In this project though, I am going for quantity (breadth); I can (and do) always come back to the songs later and learn selected ones, better. My method is to learn ( = memorize, etc) the songs while doing something else. I had a pretty regular routine this summer of exercising at the gym several days per week, and I would take papers with me and study the songs while exercising. Many of the songs are short enough that I could walk to the gym, exercise, walk home, and then by that time know the song reasonably well to record it. The learning certainly doesn't stop there, but it's the first step. Likewise, I don't have a car, so while walking or riding public transport I study the songs. Most often, during physical activity... Gibb |
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Subject: RE: Sea Chanteys/Shanties page-Gibb Sahib From: Gibb Sahib Date: 27 Oct 13 - 04:05 AM Chanties from Sept/Oct. I've been working on book as much as possible, so not learning as many new chanties now. Mexico: Jala Hombre Chyrra Me Yankee Virginia: Sweet Roseanna Georgia Sea Island: Call Me Hangin' Johnny Goodbye, My Riley Debt I Owe Sandy Anna Shilo Brown Before this Time Another Year Annie Belle Saint Vincent: Royo Groun Those Girls from Bermuda Blackbird get Up Jane and Louisa Johnny Come Down with a Hilo Bully Monday Bear Away, Yankee Dominica: Monkey Drunk, Stand Below Guyana: Sister Seusan from Carpenter Collection: Sing Sunnydoh |
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Subject: RE: Sea Chanteys/Shanties page-Gibb Sahib From: ChanteyLass Date: 27 Oct 13 - 10:23 PM I'm having trouble keeping up with the listening/watching! |
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