Subject: A pig song From: Susan A-R Date: 22 Dec 98 - 09:30 PM I heard Ann Mayo Muir sing this one (I think) It's about a pig who is not willing to accept his lot. The chorus is something like What'll I be when I get older? You're bacon, butt and picnic shoulder All my sons and all my daughters are hocks and hams and tails and trotters Anyone got the rest of it?? |
Subject: RE: A pig song From: Barbara Date: 22 Dec 98 - 10:56 PM It's called 'Tails and Trotters' by Judy Goodenough, and is on "And So We Will Yet" Bok/Trickett/Muir, is available from Folk Legacy, and if I get it first, I'll post the words, don't tell Sandy. But I don't have it now; Santa, are you listening? Blessings, Barbara |
Subject: RE: A pig song From: Sandy Paton Date: 22 Dec 98 - 11:26 PM Yes, Barbara. Santa is listening. Send me your address. |
Subject: RE: A pig song From: Barbara Date: 23 Dec 98 - 01:24 AM Awww, Sandy, that's sweet of you, but I think my partner's bought it for me already. At least there was some mysterious message on the phone machine about something ordered that was now in, and he told me he'd tried to get it, but it was out of stock. Blessings, Barbara |
Subject: RE: A pig song From: Art Date: 23 Dec 98 - 05:54 PM Out of STOCK!!!! That's funny... ;-) |
Subject: RE: A pig song From: Art Date: 23 Dec 98 - 05:56 PM That's got to be SANTY Paton |
Subject: RE: A pig song From: Barbara Date: 23 Dec 98 - 06:19 PM Patontly obvious, Art. |
Subject: RE: A pig song From: Joe Offer Date: 23 Dec 98 - 06:24 PM OK, I give up waiting for Barbara. I'll post the lyrics in a few minutes. -Joe- |
Subject: RE: A pig song From: Date: 23 Dec 98 - 06:29 PM Never Mind. Art Roseanna-dana |
Subject: Lyr Add: TAILS AND TROTTERS (Judy Goodenough) ^^ From: Joe Offer Date: 23 Dec 98 - 06:42 PM TAILS AND TROTTERS by Judy B. Goodenough, BMI ©1982, J.B. Goodenough, Fox Chapel, Pennsylvania As recorded by Gordon Bok, Ann Mayo Muir and Ed Trickett on their album "And So Will We Yet" (1990) Little piggy hollered in the middle of the night: "Tell me now, Mama, I wanna get it right. What'll I be when I get big?" "Hush," said his mama. "You're gonna be a pig. CHORUS: "That's how it is when you get older:"Oh, no," said the piggy. "That's mighty hard. There's more to me than loin and lard. I can walk and talk; I'm young and strong." "Hush," said his mama. "Not for long." "Oh, no," said the piggy, and he started to howl. "There's more to me than cheek and jowl. I'm pink and pretty; I can sing and dance." "Hush," said his mama. "You'll never get a chance." "Oh, no," said the piggy. "I'll show you all." He went over the fence and under the wall. Ran and he ran till the moon went down. He ran and he ran till he came to a town. With a kink in his tail, a wink in his eye, He put on a hat and he put on a tie. Parted his hair, bought a diamond ring, And nobody noticed anything. "Oh, see," said the piggy, "I'm one of you." And everyone said, "How true, how true!" He paid his money and he lived in style. Sometimes he sang with half a smile: He's a big boar now; he's executive pork, And he eats his vittles with a knife and fork. He often thinks of the lonesome tune His mama sang by the light of the moon: JRO ^^ |
Subject: RE: A pig song From: Barbara Date: 23 Dec 98 - 07:13 PM Hey, thanks Joe, saved my bacon. I don't think I'll C the D until Friday. |
Subject: RE: A pig song From: Susan A-R Date: 23 Dec 98 - 10:08 PM Thanks Joe. I do remember that Ann changes the "I'm young and strong" lyric to "I can sing and dance." Folk process at work. I won't even touch all of those juicy porcine puns. Happy Holidays Susan |
Subject: RE: A pig song From: Joe Offer Date: 24 Dec 98 - 12:38 AM Well, no, Susan, I left out a whole darn verse. I corrected it above. thanks for pointing that out. -Joe Offer- |
Subject: RE: A pig song From: Steve Parkes Date: 24 Dec 98 - 06:43 AM There ought to be a song about the Tamworth Two in fact there must be. Anyone know one? Steve |
Subject: RE: A pig song From: Barbara Date: 24 Dec 98 - 07:13 AM Steve, I heard Ann sing this in Portland a couple weeks ago, and she introduced it by telling the tale of the Tamworth two, and dedicating it to them. But I haven't heard a separate song ...yet. Blessings,
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Subject: RE: A pig song From: Bob Schwarer Date: 24 Dec 98 - 08:43 AM There's also a song about 4 wet pigs, 2 of which end up as pigs usually do. No time for lyrics; got to start my Christmas shopping. Bob S. |
Subject: RE: A pig song From: Animaterra Date: 24 Dec 98 - 09:00 AM A timely thread; my women's morris team is working out a brand-new dance to this very tune- look for it at NEFFA, those of y'all who will be there! Allison |
Subject: RE: A pig song From: Liam's Brother Date: 24 Dec 98 - 02:21 PM And then there is always...
In the year '29 when the weather was fine, I first took me way to the sweet fair in Trim
Yuletide greetings from my farm to yours, |
Subject: RE: A pig song From: Joe In Absentia Corrects the Song Date: 24 Dec 98 - 02:25 PM Tails and Trotters by Judy B. Goodenough, BMI ©1982, J.B. Goodenough, Fox Chapel, Pennsylvania On the Bok/Muir/Tricket album "And So Will We Yet" Aw, you're too late, Barbara or Alison. I got back online this morning and posted corrections above. Thanks for trying, though. |
Subject: RE: A pig song From: gargoyle Date: 24 Dec 98 - 11:03 PM This PIG song has been a family favorite, it involves, SNORTS,(inner-reverse through the nose style), WHISTLES (sharp and quick) and BRRPPP's (through the lips- like a gasseous explosion) It is VERY vaguely along the the lines of "Charlie Fell Into the Bucket" a comedy tune from the turn of the century 1890-1910 and perhaps into the US Civil War years. ((Yes, my dearest, Mr. B.Seed...it is precisley the type of song that would come from MY family.))
There was an old man
Now this old sow
The pigs they climbed
Oh, Sue-zan, is a funny ol man ^^
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Subject: RE: A pig song From: Joe Offer Date: 25 Dec 98 - 02:54 AM It's precisely the kind of song that would come from me, too, Gargoyle. Any chance you can come up with a tune? Click on my name to e-mail me a MIDI or RealAudio or WAV if you can't post one here. -Joe Offer- |
Subject: Lyr/Tune Add: THE PIG AND THE INEBRIATE ^^ From: Joe Offer Date: 02 Jan 99 - 06:44 PM Here's a tune I found in a great book called Songs That Changed the World, edited by Wanda Willson Whitman in 1969. I found the book in the library, and now I'm trying to find somewhere to buy it. None of the online used-book services I know have it listed. Not sure how this particular song changed the world, but maybe it will serve as an inspiration to those who overindulged over the holidays. The lyrics (3 versions) are in the database, but not the tune. -Joe Offer- THE PIG AND THE INEBRIATE (The Unsociable Pig) (songwriter unknown) It was early in December, as near as I remember While walking down the street in tipsy pride, No one was I disturbing As I lay down on the curbing, When a pig came up and lay down by my side. As I lay there in the gutter, thinking thoughts I cannot utter, A lady passing by was heard to say, "You can tell a man who boozes By the company he chooses," And the pig got up and slowly walked away.
MIDI file: PIGINE~1.MID Timebase: 192 Name: The Pig and the Inebriate This program is worth the effort of learning it. To download the March 10 MIDItext 98 software and get instructions on how to use it click here ABC format: X:1
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Subject: RE: A pig song From: Sandy Paton Date: 03 Jan 99 - 05:22 PM For those of us who are computer-impaired, "The Pig and the Inebriate" was recorded by Ed McCurdy in 1956 on his Elektra album (EKL-108) titled Blood, Booze 'n Bones. That's where I learned it, anyway. I suspect that many of us "Old Folkers" still have tha album tucked away somewhere. Erik Darling provided banjo accompaniments. Sandy |
Subject: RE: A pig song From: Joe Offer Date: 03 Jan 99 - 10:53 PM Ah, Sandy, at least we should be able to get you literate with ABC, so you can swap tunes with us. First thing to do is get a program like ABCMUS, so at least you can play the ABC tunes when you see them here. You highlight and copy the tune, open ABCMUS, and play. Pretty simple. Takes me five seconds to get a tune playing. But I have to admit, using computers often involves doing things "the hard way" until you figure the darn thing out. What seems easy to me may be agony to you. What's easy for Max or Alan up at the top of the food chain, is impossible for me. -Joe Offer- |
Subject: RE: A pig song From: Barbara Date: 07 Jan 99 - 03:46 AM I've heard a music hall song similar to Gargoyle's that ended with "Suzanna's a foggy old sow(grunt)sow(bbbspt)sow(whistle) sow", and I have one here courtesy of BAZ that also has the sound effects. I'll dig it out soon, as soon as I get sorted out from 10 days away, Blessings Barbara |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tails and Trotters (Judy B Goodenough) From: GUEST,Steve Samuels Date: 10 Aug 19 - 10:34 PM I'm sorry for this correction almost 20 years after the question. Joe Offer in his post Subject: Lyr Add: TAILS AND TROTTERS (Judy Goodenough) ^^ Date: 23 Dec 98 - 06:42 PM quotes a line in the third verse as "He went under the fence and over the wall." However in the album "And So We Will Yet" by Bok/Trickett/Muir, the order of "under" and "over" is reversed: "He went over the fence and under the wall." This seems strange ("under" the wall?). However there is good evidence that this is what Goodenough wrote. Ann Mayo Muir and Gordon Bok (at least) both knew her very well-See Alan Seaburg's biography here - It's hard to believe that they would have gotten it wrong. Further evidence, if more is needed: Goodenough's daughter Anne sings the Muir/Bok/Trickett version on You Tube here and reads the lyrics from a piece of paper. |
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