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BS: Edwards news -- effect on candidates?

GUEST,mg 22 Mar 07 - 06:00 PM
Rapparee 22 Mar 07 - 07:09 PM
katlaughing 22 Mar 07 - 08:12 PM
Cruiser 22 Mar 07 - 10:12 PM
katlaughing 22 Mar 07 - 11:01 PM
jacqui.c 22 Mar 07 - 11:19 PM
katlaughing 23 Mar 07 - 12:19 AM
jacqui.c 23 Mar 07 - 08:24 AM
Cruiser 23 Mar 07 - 11:28 AM
Stringsinger 23 Mar 07 - 07:17 PM
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Bobert 23 Mar 07 - 07:55 PM
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nosluap57 23 Mar 07 - 11:31 PM
Stephen L. Rich 24 Mar 07 - 01:12 PM
Thomas the Rhymer 24 Mar 07 - 05:41 PM
Bill Hahn//\\ 24 Mar 07 - 06:49 PM
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Subject: BS: Edwards news -- effect on candidates?
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 22 Mar 07 - 06:00 PM

First of all, best wishes for the Edwards family as they go through another round of cancer treatment. I am wondering, as is the country, how this will affect the political landscape...I like him, probably would like him as president but I would have always preferred Obama as president and Edwards as vice and I think, if they are personally compatible, that it would be a good team. My speculation is that he might end up in this position for various reasons, and high among them is his wife's health and the fact he has very young children. I could also see him as running for VP with Hillary but I could not see Obama being her VP..

Anyway, wondering what others see in terms of the political ramifications of this. I am sure everyone share in hopes for her ongoing health to be good. mg


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Subject: RE: BS: Edwards news -- effect on candidates?
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Mar 07 - 07:09 PM

I wish her well and I wish both of them the strength they'll need. The news says that her cancer is "incurable."

I agree you with you about an Obama/Edwards ticket. Hillary brings too much baggage with her and I doubt that she is a viable candidate outside of the Northeastern US.


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Subject: RE: BS: Edwards news -- effect on candidates?
From: katlaughing
Date: 22 Mar 07 - 08:12 PM

I wrote to him to say, while I would LOVE to have him for President, I think he should quit and take care of her and their family. Our bodies react in different ways to extreme stress. I think the first time was a warning. To continue with the high stress will do her no good and I feel he owes it to her to be there 100% for her and his family. No one will think less of him for it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Edwards news -- effect on candidates?
From: Cruiser
Date: 22 Mar 07 - 10:12 PM

Kat, I could not disagree with you more. Mrs. Edwards said in a national news story that this election was too important to lose. She wants this likely as much or more than Mr. Edwards. These two people are a rarity in politics nowadays. They both have the integrity to make an excellent President and First Lady. Think of the courage and sacrifice they are both exhibiting to do for what they think is right. They are putting themselves second to the citizens' need to have the first decent, honest politician in the White House since Mr. Carter. The difference is Mr. Edwards can govern where Mr. Carter could not. The Edwards' are intelligent dedicated public servants who will put the citizenry first; they are the essence of what it means to be loyal public servants. No one in the presidential field from either party can come close to them in integrity and dedication.


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Subject: RE: BS: Edwards news -- effect on candidates?
From: katlaughing
Date: 22 Mar 07 - 11:01 PM

I agree with you, Cruiser, about their integrity, etc. BUT it will seemingly be at the cost of her life. IF there were even a chance that lessening stress and concentrating all of their energies on healing would save her, they should give it up and take that chance, imo. I know of a young woman who was cured of ovarian cancer through a complete concentration on staying positive through 60 days of watching comedies, etc. The doctors could not explain but do agree she was healed. It would be sad if Edwards won at the cost of his wife and the mother of his children.


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Subject: RE: BS: Edwards news -- effect on candidates?
From: jacqui.c
Date: 22 Mar 07 - 11:19 PM

I don't think that she would want that. I get the impression that she wants him to be President and that, if he gives up the chance to care for her, she will never forgive herself (or him) for not staying the course.

Watching them on the news tonight was hard - so much love and devotion and so much courage.


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Subject: RE: BS: Edwards news -- effect on candidates?
From: katlaughing
Date: 23 Mar 07 - 12:19 AM

Maybe so, Jacqui. It just seems a terrible sacrifice; but, I guess that's what sometimes makes someone Great and goddess knows our country needs that right now.

I did not watch them, only heard them on the radio.May their god bless them and watch over them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Edwards news -- effect on candidates?
From: jacqui.c
Date: 23 Mar 07 - 08:24 AM

Amen to that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Edwards news -- effect on candidates?
From: Cruiser
Date: 23 Mar 07 - 11:28 AM

Katlaughing said: "It just seems a terrible sacrifice; but, I guess that's what sometimes makes someone Great…"

You expressed my point exactly. How many people dying from cancer would have the will to put themselves in the fray of presidential politics unless they knew their leadership could make a difference. Some people fight and some people acquiesce. The Edwards' are fighters and are willing to sacrifice for the good of society, a rare quality indeed. They both realize if they do not proceed with their "last race" they will have lost the opportunity to do what they committed to long ago. Think of the inspiration Mrs. Edwards would be to all people, especially ones with cancer and other life-threatening ailments.

I had planned on voting for Mr. Edwards before and expressed that inclination in another thread. However, the interview yesterday cinched my vote for sure and for certain.

Given the frailties we humans all possess, these two people exude as much integrity and honor as possible.

Cruiser (still a registered Republican looking for honorable persons of any political persuasion, as long as they possess integrity, to fill public office)


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Subject: RE: BS: Edwards news -- effect on candidates?
From: Stringsinger
Date: 23 Mar 07 - 07:17 PM

Mrs. Edwards is an intelligent person and would make a good president herself but I would prefer to see her alive. If she can lick this cancer, it would make a great inspirational story for many people and in my view more important than a presidential bid.

Frank Hamilton


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Subject: RE: BS: Edwards news -- effect on candidates?
From: Becca72
Date: 23 Mar 07 - 07:28 PM

Stringsilver,
I agree, but her prognosis is not one of "recovery". They are saying it's incurable. From the report I saw on the news this morning, there is a 25% survival rate out to 5 years (your mileage may vary). Very sad, indeed, as she seems like an honest person which is very hard to come by in Washington DC, and she is also the mother of very young children.


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Subject: RE: BS: Edwards news -- effect on candidates?
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Mar 07 - 07:55 PM

There's is something that some of you don't understand about living with someone with Stage 4 cancer and that is, simply put, the intense desire to leave a footprint...

Fir Elizabeth Edwards it's the campaign...

In my case, when my wife Judy was dieing of breast cancer, it was a song we wrote "Youngstown NIght" about her childhood which we recorded and put out together.... And I mean, together... She was on medical leave from Xerox in Leesburg but still had access to the training center and we snuck in several nights to use the color copiers and other stuff to make the cassette covers and we made over 200 casettes and sent them out to her family and friends... And this, with her totin' around an oxygen bottle on a small hand truck so she could breathe...

So, okay, there is a part of Elizabeth Edwards who wants to leave that footprint... But there's a part of her where she just wants to ***live*** each day, as most of us should want, and there's a part of her that has always been her husband's closest advisor... She is a pretty smart cookie when it comes to stuff and he seems to need her smartness...

I read today that he would practice his closing agruments in cases he was litigating in front of her for her critique... That, in itself, say alot about his respect for her intellegence...

Now, of all the Dems runnin' for president, I think that John Edwards is the only one who I would vote for because I like him but with that said, part of my vote goes to Elizabeth because she is so much a part of who he is, how he would react to adversity, how he would cut through the crap and make good decisions for our country...

I'm just praying that she responds well enough to treatment to allow John to be elected and for the two of them to serve our country from Jan., 2009 to Jan., 2017...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Edwards news -- effect on candidates?
From: Cruiser
Date: 23 Mar 07 - 09:48 PM

Well said Bobert.

I think the best medicine for her it to be active in what she espouses. I admire her because many people, male and female, would "quit".


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Subject: RE: BS: Edwards news -- effect on candidates?
From: nosluap57
Date: 23 Mar 07 - 11:31 PM

I wish Mrs. Edwards and her family all the best in her battle.

Having said that her diagnosis will have no bearing on the campaign. He is yesterday's news. He has no chance. The two front runners (dumb and dumber) will not be impacted at all by this sad news.


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Subject: RE: BS: Edwards news -- effect on candidates?
From: Stephen L. Rich
Date: 24 Mar 07 - 01:12 PM

This will get his campaign lots of sympathy, but it does not fundamentaly change the game. Hillary and Obama will have enough money to keep running after the California Primary next February. Edwards, most probably, will not. Unfortunately, the only qualification to become President of the United States, that has any genuine impact on the race, is the ability to kiss Corporate America's collective behind to get enough money to run a campaign.

Stephen Lee Rich


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Subject: RE: BS: Edwards news -- effect on candidates?
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 24 Mar 07 - 05:41 PM

Here is an interesting NYTimes article on the subject. I will pray for her recovery no matter what decision they make... but, if it was my choice... All politics aside, I'd encourage her to reassess her lifestyle and head in the direction most suitable for her (and consequently... his) health, and the sanctity of their family. There are plenty of candidates... there is only one Elizabeth Edwards.
ttr


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Subject: RE: BS: Edwards news -- effect on candidates?
From: Bill Hahn//\\
Date: 24 Mar 07 - 06:49 PM

I was about to recomment the NYTimes areticle referred to above. It brings up interesting points for speculation.   Many reasons to run and to not run, many nuances of male vs female, the purposes of running vs not running, and more.

I have to agree that this if finally someone, I percieve, to be as honest and idealistic as we get these days. And, yes, that comment re: Carter is right on the mark.   Perhaps we would have the pre-cursor to Carter (years before) HST.

The GUest/mg posting about an Obama/Edwards ticket was my feeling for many weeks now.   Before this business.

Bill Hahn


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Subject: RE: BS: Edwards news -- effect on candidates?
From: pdq
Date: 24 Mar 07 - 07:42 PM

If John Edwards is really a worthy candidate for president, he will still be so eight or ten years from now.

At present, his duty is to his wife and young children.

In the interm period, he should spend a lot of time studying foreign policy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Edwards news -- effect on candidates?
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Mar 07 - 11:01 PM

Would any of the Edwards fans care to relate exactly what he has DONE that leads them to think he will be the salvation of the USA? I see a nice well-meaning guy who had a really nice stump speech in the past, whose main accomplishment over the last several horrible years in politics seems to have been building himself a BIGass house and plotting his next leap up the career ladder.


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Subject: RE: BS: Edwards news -- effect on candidates?
From: Peace
Date: 24 Mar 07 - 11:10 PM

Edwards says he'll stay in the race.


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Subject: RE: BS: Edwards news -- effect on candidates?
From: Peace
Date: 24 Mar 07 - 11:17 PM

Stuff on Edwards here. FYI.


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Subject: RE: BS: Edwards news -- effect on candidates?
From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 10:38 AM

They will be on 60 Minutes, tonight.

Apparently I am not the only to voice concerns that he needs to drop out and tend to his family: Boston Globe column.


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Subject: RE: BS: Edwards news -- effect on candidates?
From: GUEST,Cruz
Date: 25 Mar 07 - 09:29 PM

The 60 Minutes interview answered all the questions for me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Edwards news -- effect on candidates?
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Sep 07 - 08:27 PM

Here is one reason I support John Edwards for President 2008

John and Elizabeth Edwards on the Road (YouTube)


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Subject: RE: BS: Edwards news -- effect on candidates?
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Sep 07 - 09:21 PM

I like Edwards, too.... My 1st choice, among Dems, is still Dennis Kuchinich but he won't get nominated... My second choice is Bill Richardson, who also won't be nominated... With who is left after them, Edwards would be my choice...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Edwards news -- effect on candidates?
From: GUEST,Cruz
Date: 01 Sep 07 - 09:52 PM

This ol' Republican is glad to see Mr. Edwards is gaining the support he deserves. I will be voting for him and ask others to do so.

I have always been healthy and I have excellent health insurance. I hate that many people who have taken care of themselves but, through no fault of their own, chance deals them a horrific disease they cannot "afford" to have.

Will Mr. Edwards succeed with health care as president? Possibly not, but he is the best chance people without health care have. More importantly, he and his wife are decent people and this country definitely needs Decent now more than anything else.


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