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Walter Greaves, singing blacksmith

The Sandman 29 Mar 07 - 08:08 AM
GUEST,padgett 29 Mar 07 - 08:39 AM
The Sandman 29 Mar 07 - 09:49 AM
The Sandman 29 Mar 07 - 10:03 AM
Gazza2 29 Mar 07 - 12:15 PM
selby 27 Apr 12 - 04:22 AM
GUEST,Dave G 27 Apr 12 - 10:54 AM
r.padgett 27 Apr 12 - 11:18 AM
r.padgett 27 Apr 12 - 11:22 AM
Les in Chorlton 27 Apr 12 - 01:29 PM
r.padgett 28 Apr 12 - 03:02 AM
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GUEST,scorpio 29 Apr 12 - 05:12 PM
The Sandman 18 Jan 13 - 02:57 AM
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GUEST,Bruce Michael Baillie 18 Jan 13 - 04:03 PM
r.padgett 19 Jan 13 - 11:16 AM
GUEST,Ced 2 19 Jan 13 - 03:33 PM
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The Sandman 20 Jan 13 - 08:15 AM
GUEST,HughM 21 Jan 13 - 08:18 AM
r.padgett 21 Jan 13 - 11:35 AM
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Subject: walter greaves singing blacksmith
From: The Sandman
Date: 29 Mar 07 - 08:08 AM

Iam sure in the sixties or seventies there was a folk singer called WalterGreaves,the singing blacksmith,Ibelieve he only had one arm,and cycled to his gigs,does anyone have old efdss year books. im sure he used to advertise,in the performers section.was he the same walter smith that made cycling records.


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Subject: RE: walter greaves singing blacksmith
From: GUEST,padgett
Date: 29 Mar 07 - 08:39 AM

We've done this one recently Dick!!

You are quite right!!

Not sure whuch thread its on but he was from Dewsbury etc

Ray


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Subject: RE: walter greaves singing blacksmith
From: The Sandman
Date: 29 Mar 07 - 09:49 AM

He died in 1987 from parkinsons disease.
around about 1979 /1980,i had a discussion with the organiser of Mildenhall folk club[Suffolk],and he said to me your not going to believe this Dick,but last week we had a guest called Walter Greaves,he cycled here to the gig,and further more hes only got one arm.,he calls himself the singing Blacksmith,talk about a tough guy.


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Subject: RE: walter greaves singing blacksmith
From: The Sandman
Date: 29 Mar 07 - 10:03 AM

AND I think he said, he cycled home after the gig,.
which reminds me of Trevor Crozier,he once walked from Ipswich TO Bury st edmunds,to do a gig.


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Subject: RE: walter greaves singing blacksmith
From: Gazza2
Date: 29 Mar 07 - 12:15 PM

I seem to remember seeing him at Leeds folk club in 1974/75. He had a fair number of supporters who saw him off with a chorus of "Walter Greaves, Superstar!" after he sang a song which went:"Please take me where, the sweet River Aire, Bubbles and sparkles through Leeds".


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Subject: RE: Walter Greaves, singing blacksmith
From: selby
Date: 27 Apr 12 - 04:22 AM

if its the same song Sweet River Aire was written by a guy called John Gunning and there is a cd of John Gunning songs.


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Subject: RE: Walter Greaves, singing blacksmith
From: GUEST,Dave G
Date: 27 Apr 12 - 10:54 AM

I think this is on the Yorkshire Folk club thread. Walter was a regular at Bingley Folk club, in the Ferrands Arms. The club was run by Jon Rennard and Jim Wishart, so not a bad line up before you even started talking guests. Walter sang the song Lloyd George which was picked up by Tony Capstick who recorded it on one of his albums.
Walter was a real character who sang fine songs, was a blacksmith and held national long distance cycling records. Not bad for a man with one arm.


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Subject: RE: Walter Greaves, singing blacksmith
From: r.padgett
Date: 27 Apr 12 - 11:18 AM

Yea his axploits have been the subject of a Barnsley Memories article not long ago!! tis true

Ray


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Subject: RE: Walter Greaves, singing blacksmith
From: r.padgett
Date: 27 Apr 12 - 11:22 AM

I have just google him and there is a wikipedia entry for him as Walter Greaves cyclist with one arm born 1936!!

ray


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Subject: RE: Walter Greaves, singing blacksmith
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 27 Apr 12 - 01:29 PM

Not to be confused with a friend Mike Harding's who was a ringer-out for a one armed window cleaner about the same time

L in C#


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Subject: RE: Walter Greaves, singing blacksmith
From: r.padgett
Date: 28 Apr 12 - 03:02 AM

They were both larger than life characters!
Ray


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Subject: RE: Walter Greaves, singing blacksmith
From: r.padgett
Date: 29 Apr 12 - 03:02 AM

refish


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Subject: RE: Walter Greaves, singing blacksmith
From: GUEST,scorpio
Date: 29 Apr 12 - 05:12 PM

I remember Walter doing a monologue about the building of the pyramids . I would love to have the words. God sent the plagues, but what really made the pyramid workers down tools was the blight on the Egyptian Guinness. I can only recall one gem: Now Moses was driving a dumper, at the site of Pharoah's new tomb. He said, "They should have cremated the bugger, it wouldn't half have saved 'em some room!"


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Subject: RE: Walter Greaves, singing blacksmith
From: The Sandman
Date: 18 Jan 13 - 02:57 AM

n his folk singing incarnation, Walter wrote a great song about the granting of the old age pension, entitled "What Lloyd George Gave Me"
The chorus goes: He took me out of t'workhouse,
                            And he gave me life that's free,
                            Five shilling a week for cheatin' death,
                            That's what Lloyd George gave me.


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Subject: RE: Walter Greaves, singing blacksmith
From: r.padgett
Date: 18 Jan 13 - 04:37 AM

Dick have a look at www.yorkshirefolksong.net

Recorded Richard from Beverley singing this!

Ray Hearne uses the tune for one of his songs

The first pensions were paid to men over 70 at 5shillings a week

The Act was 1908 (tell RH!) the first payments made Jan 1st 1909

in Barnsley 286 at 5 shills, 8 at 4shills, 7 at 3shills, 5 at 2 shills pensioners over 70 (dunt know why the others paid less than 5 shillings, ? anyone know?)

Wombwell had 85, Darfield 26, Ardsley 97, Hoyland 102 pensioners over 70

Ray


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Subject: RE: Walter Greaves, singing blacksmith
From: GUEST,Bruce Michael Baillie
Date: 18 Jan 13 - 04:03 PM

Get your facts reight GSS, Actually the song about Lloyd George was written by F.W. Mooreman NOT Walter Greaves. I do remember Walter, a great character, met him many times back in the 70's and he even came to classes at Batley Art College while I was there. I don't recall that he wrote anything he performed himself?


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Subject: RE: Walter Greaves, singing blacksmith
From: r.padgett
Date: 19 Jan 13 - 11:16 AM

Yes Bruce is right Walter didn't as far as I know write anything!

He would have known Tom Daniel and indeed sang some of his songs too!

Ray


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Subject: RE: Walter Greaves, singing blacksmith
From: GUEST,Ced 2
Date: 19 Jan 13 - 03:33 PM

Oh but you are wrong Ray, He did write somethings and I don't just mean anti-Vietnam War slogans on bridges. Ced


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Subject: RE: Walter Greaves, singing blacksmith
From: r.padgett
Date: 20 Jan 13 - 04:21 AM

Hi Ced, glad of your input!

What is there that Walter wrote and are there any surviving recordings?

Certainly during CND years Britain lived in fear of War with USSR and atomic bombs and any return to War

He could also have written (as did others) funny songs and political songs of the era

Ray


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Subject: RE: Walter Greaves, singing blacksmith
From: ced2
Date: 20 Jan 13 - 04:39 AM

Doubt if there are recordings, and can't recall biting political satires such as those that Alex Glasgow wrote.
Walter NEVER lived in fear of the USSR! Ced


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Subject: RE: Walter Greaves, singing blacksmith
From: The Sandman
Date: 20 Jan 13 - 08:15 AM

GUEST BRUCE BAILLIE, if you feel strongly that about it i recommend you got to wikepedia and correct it, in the meantime please adopt some civility, i know exactly who you are.


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Subject: RE: Walter Greaves, singing blacksmith
From: GUEST,HughM
Date: 21 Jan 13 - 08:18 AM

I remember in the late 70s and early 80s he lived at Craven Forge, between Kildwick and Skipton, on the A650 and with the Leeds-Liverpool canal at the back. At one point the council threatened to evict him because they said the place was untidy. A petition was raised in his defence. I can't remember what the outcome was. I think he tidied the place up or was helped to do it.


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Subject: RE: Walter Greaves, singing blacksmith
From: r.padgett
Date: 21 Jan 13 - 11:35 AM

He was helped to move from his home by folkies to make way for the M62 I think!

Ray


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Subject: RE: Walter Greaves, singing blacksmith
From: GUEST,HughM
Date: 21 Jan 13 - 05:19 PM

No, Craven Forge was nowhere near the M62.


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Subject: RE: Walter Greaves, singing blacksmith
From: r.padgett
Date: 22 Jan 13 - 10:48 AM

O right!

Ray


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