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Sandy Paton 30 Mar 99 - 10:41 PM
Alan of Australia 31 Mar 99 - 07:40 AM
Sandy Paton 31 Mar 99 - 01:24 PM
Paul Slater (inactive) 06 Apr 99 - 05:34 PM
Joe Offer 07 Apr 99 - 03:34 PM
Sandy Paton 07 Apr 99 - 03:55 PM
Alan of Australia 08 Apr 99 - 12:18 PM
Joe Offer 04 Sep 05 - 07:44 PM
GUEST,Uke 04 Sep 05 - 08:51 PM
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Subject: LYR:ADD: By the Dry Cardrona
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 30 Mar 99 - 10:41 PM

DRY CARDRONA
text: James Baxter; tune: D. Tomms

Oh, I have seen the cherries bloom
By the dry Cardrona,
Where I plucked them long ago
On a day when I was sober,
On a day when I was sober.

My father he wore a parson's coat,
By the dry Cardrona,
He kept a tally of the sheep and the goat,
But I was never sober,
No, I was never sober.

My mother she sewed her Sunday skirts,
By the dry Cardrona,
They say she died of a broken heart,
For I was never sober,
No, I was never sober.

And I loved a maiden, but only one,
By the dry Cardrona.
She up and married a banker's son,
For I was never sober,
No, I was never sober.

So I married a widow of forty-nine,
By the dry Cardrona,
She had a stable and sheep like mine,
But I was never sober,
No, I was never sober.

Oh, bury my bones till the judgement crack,
By the dry Cardrona,
A blanket swag upon my back
To pillow me, drunk or sober,
To pillow me, drunk or sober.

Oh, the rivers run to a rimless grave,
Even the dry Cardrona,
But nary a one will turn my way
Till I am bone-cold sober,
Till I am bone-cold sober.

And I have seen the cherries bloom
By the dry Cardrona,
Where I plucked them long ago
On a day when I was sober,
On a day when I was sober.

^^


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Subject: RE: LYR:ADD: By the Dry Cardrona
From: Alan of Australia
Date: 31 Mar 99 - 07:40 AM

G'day Sandy,
Glad you beat me to it, Saved me a swag of time over the Easter hols.

Cheers,
Alan


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Subject: RE: LYR:ADD: By the Dry Cardrona
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 31 Mar 99 - 01:24 PM

Glad to help out. Hope the text is pretty close to the one you have. Ed got it from Glenn Jenks, up in Maine, so it's been through a few transmissions, any of which could result in variations.

Sandy


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Subject: RE: LYR:ADD: By the Dry Cardrona
From: Paul Slater (inactive)
Date: 06 Apr 99 - 05:34 PM

Sandy, Many thanks for lyrics, Regards, Paul Slater


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Subject: RE: LYR:ADD: By the Dry Cardrona
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Apr 99 - 03:34 PM

Sandy, at the risk of encouraging you to be crassly and blatantly commercial, can I ask what album can I find that song on? I swear I've heard it on one Folk-Legacy album or another, but I can't remember which one.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: LYR:ADD: By the Dry Cardrona
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 07 Apr 99 - 03:55 PM

JOE: I don't mind being commercial, much. It's on Ed Trickett's People Like You, available as a cassette (with booklet) - C-92, or as a "vinyl dinosaur" - FSI-92. Haven't been able to get it out as a CD yet.

Sandy


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Subject: RE: LYR:ADD: By the Dry Cardrona
From: Alan of Australia
Date: 08 Apr 99 - 12:18 PM

G'day,
You don't normally expect the Shaky Isles to have many dry rivers but the Cardrona must be pretty dry (at least for NZ). Another song (Farewell To The Gold) has "We searched the Cardrona's dry valley all over".

Cheers,
Alan


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Subject: RE: LYR:ADD: By the Dry Cardrona
From: Joe Offer
Date: 04 Sep 05 - 07:44 PM

From the Help Forum:
    Subject: By The Dry Cardrona - lyrics/info wrong.
    From: K Tait
    Date: 04-Sep-05 - 04:29 PM

    "By The Dry Cardrona" is not an Australian song. It was written in the 1950s by a well known New Zealand poet, James K. Baxter RIP . The Cardrona River is in Central Otago in the South Island of New Zealand. Some of the lyrics posted are embarrassingly inaccurate and misrepresent the intelligence of the author. ie "sheep like mine" should be "scheelite mine". See NZ folksong site for accurate lyrics and info: http://folksong.org.nz/index.html


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Subject: RE: LYR:ADD: By the Dry Cardrona
From: GUEST,Uke
Date: 04 Sep 05 - 08:51 PM

This song originally comes from a short radio play by Baxter broadcast in New Zealand around 1958. The music was originally written by a writer called James McNeish, though adapted into the more simplified form heard nowadays, perhaps by Don Toms.


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Subject: RE: LYR:ADD: By the Dry Cardrona
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 04 Sep 05 - 09:17 PM

Interesting. Not being much of a mineralogist, I'd never heard of scheelite. It's understandable if Ed Trickett or Glenn Jenks mis-heard it as "sheep like", New Zealand being rather well known for the things; but I can quite see why Mr or Ms Tait finds that annoying, and it's good to have the correction. Note that the website mentioned details other changes to the original lyric (admittedly less embarrassing) introduced by other singers.

Less excusable is the assumption made by whoever harvested the text that it must for some reason be Australian, when Alan (of Australia, hence perhaps the error) had clearly typed NZ, and the location of the antipodean Cardrona is hardly a mystery (the original is in Peeblesshire, Scotland).


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Subject: RE: LYR:ADD: By the Dry Cardrona
From: Uke
Date: 05 Sep 05 - 06:14 AM

Funnily enough there is yet another song about the Cardrona Valley besides 'Farewell to the Gold' - it's called Gin and Raspberry and was written by an English singer Martin Curtis who now lives down that way.

This beautiful valley was the site of a goldrush in 1863 and Curtis' song concerns a tunnelling working, where the all the diggers on the claim were 'shouted' the titular beverage by the owners whenever the paydirt yielded an ounce to the bucketload.

In those days there was plenty of music wafting around courtesy of the Irish miners. One legendary fiddler and pipe player was named Paddy Galvin who apparently, so the story goes, was such a natural musician that even after falling asleep in the bar, he just kept on playing...


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Subject: ADD Version: By the Dry Cardrona
From: GUEST,K Tait
Date: 05 Sep 05 - 05:03 PM

Scheelite - Formula: Ca[WO4]
System:        Tetragonal        Colour:        Tan, golden-yellow, ...
Lustre:        Vitreous        Hardness:        4½ - 5
Name:        Named after K.W. Scheele the discoverer of the element Tungstun

I must admit I'd never heard of scheelite either. But , as a child, living in a different part of Otago, we had stuff called "agellite" (spelling ?) on our driveway. So I guess there were loads of "ites" down that way - the best examples of which have been dug up and stolen by the hobbits.
"By The Dry Cardrona" is one of the most beautiful NZ songs. You don't have to be a viruoso of any kind to sing this song and get a good reaction. If you play guitar, it goes really well with arrangements in DADF#AD or DADGAD tunings. I'd like to put the tune on this site but I don't know how. If anyone could help with that I'd be grateful.
These are the lyrics as I've been singing them.

By The Dry Cardrona
(lyrics by James K Baxter)

I can tell where cherries grow
By the dry Cardrona
Where I plucked them long ago
On a day when I was sober (x2)

My father wore a parson's coat
By the dry Cardrona
He kept a tally of the sheep and goats
But I was never sober (x2)

My mother sewed her Sunday skirt
By the dry Cardrona
They say she died of a broken heart
For I was never sober (x2)

I loved a young lass and only one
By the dry Cardrona
But she up and married the banker's son
'Cause I was never sober

I courted a widow of 49
By the dry Cardrona
She owned a stable and a scheelite mine
But I was never sober (x2)

Oh lay my bones till the judgement crack
By the dry Cardrona
A blanket slung upon my back
Will pillow me drunk or sober (x2)

All rivers run to a rimless grave
Even the dry Cardrona
But ne'er a one will turn my way
Till I am bone cold sober (x2)

Repeat 1st verse.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: By the Dry Cardrona
From: Little Robyn
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 02:09 AM

Hi Kath,
Why don't you join mudcat instead of being a guest? Then you can put some photos and a biog on the personal pages - and add your songs as well! Even offer your CDs for sale!
Cheers. Robyn (and Mitch)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: By the Dry Cardrona
From: MMario
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 05:31 PM

K Tait - if you have the music and can scan and e-mail it I can convert to midi and also post here as ABC

lpola@edutech.org


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: By the Dry Cardrona
From: GUEST,K Tait
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 03:49 PM

Corr Robyn. That sounds a bit extreme. Couldn't I just start off with my medical history and criminal records before I get on to the really personal stuff like my photographs and my CDs ????????

kath


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: By the Dry Cardrona
From: GUEST,K Tait
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 03:53 PM

Thanks very much for your kind offer MMario. I'll email you the music as soon as I can get it scanned.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: By the Dry Cardrona
From: Little Robyn
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 02:02 AM

Kath, if you join, then you can check up on me - see who you've been talking to!
And I'm sure there are catters who would be interested in your CDs.
(We've gottem already and played much of them on our radio show, here in Hastings, NZ)
Cheers,
Robyn


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: By the Dry Cardrona
From: Gurney
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 05:00 AM

Everyone should take any opportunity to listen to Kath Tait. She's a very original songwriter, and as funny as hell.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: By the Dry Cardrona
From: Gurney
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 05:02 AM

Oh, and I sing 'sewed my Sunday shirt, by....."
A festival favourite.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: By the Dry Cardrona
From: Little Robyn
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 08:02 AM

But not all Kath's songs are humorous.
"McKenzie" is a serious song about a colourful historical character - a pioneer in the part of the South Island now known as MacKenzie Country. He was also an alleged sheep rustler. Makes for an entertaining song.
Robyn


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: By the Dry Cardrona
From: Little Robyn
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 08:11 AM

Actually, it's here:
McKenzie on John Archer's site

Robyn


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: By the Dry Cardrona
From: Little Robyn
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 08:34 AM

Now why didn't I think of that before?
By the dry Cardrona

Robyn


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: By the Dry Cardrona
From: Little Robyn
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 08:38 AM

And the other song that refers to Cardrona is there too.
Farewell to the gold

Robyn


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Subject: Tune Add: BY THE DRY CARDRONA
From: MMario
Date: 12 Sep 05 - 08:37 AM

X:1
T:By the Dry Cardrona
N:from hand written score from Kath Tait.
I:abc2nwc
M:4/4
L:1/8
K:C
e3/2 e/2 d e c G G2|c3/2 B/2 c e e d- d2|
g3/2 g/2 g f (3edc F G/2 G/2|G3/2 G/2 G G G A/2 B/2 c d/2 e/2|
f3/2 d/2 e c B c- c2|]


Sent a NWC format file off to Joe-offer. Midi may take a while to get posted.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: By the Dry Cardrona
From: GUEST,K Tait
Date: 12 Sep 05 - 01:15 PM

Thanks for the correction Gurney. I think "shirts" is correct and "skirts" was something I inadvertantly came up with during one of my raging feminist phases.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: By the Dry Cardrona
From: Little Robyn
Date: 12 Sep 05 - 03:26 PM

I don't think 'Mother' would have worn a Sunday shirt back in the 1860s or 70s - stick to skirt. That's what John Archer has in his version.
Robyn


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Subject: RE: LYR:ADD: By the Dry Cardrona
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Jul 24 - 08:07 PM

Bearheart here. Probably need to reset my cookie.

Lovely to find this thread. I heard Steve Turner's version after picking up some o his CDs this past week at a concert in Corning NY, and decided I had to have the lyrics.

Haven't posted in a while- politics being what they are these days I've been spending too much time on Facebook. Need to get back into the Mudcat habit.


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Subject: RE: LYR:ADD: By the Dry Cardrona
From: Bearheart
Date: 03 Jul 24 - 08:09 PM

Ah, that's better. Cookie reset.

I am quite taken with this song.


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