BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!

Subject: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: GUEST,Don't Bury Me At All
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 04:48 AM

Like I said

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: fat B****rd
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 04:53 AM

Each to their own.

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 05:17 AM

good old KeeF!

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: Rasener
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 05:39 AM

Well how often have you said "My father gets right up my nose"

All Keith has done, is prove his father did get right up his nose.

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 07:09 AM

So in what way is Keith's action NOT cannibalism? After all, he consumed and ingested his own father - whether by nose or by mouth is immaterial.

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 07:14 AM

I thought he'd just said it as a joke!

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: mouldy
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 07:22 AM

I've heard of it being done involuntarily...ie, never get downwind when you scatter! (And it was a lady vicar who had the mishap!)

Andrea

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 07:30 AM

Not a joke according to the reports, eanjay...

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 07:35 AM

People go to great lengths to scatter their loved one's ashes in beautiful, peaceful, places where that person would like to be. I can't imagine anybody wanting to end up in someone's nose.

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: Big Mick
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 07:45 AM

His agent is now trying to spin it as a joke.

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: catspaw49
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 08:39 AM

Why and by what perverse happenstance is this freakin' asshole still alive?   

When you think of all the wonderful people who have departed this life far too early and then this piece of shit.......Sorry.....If I was god I'd have punched his ticket years ago.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: Big Mick
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 08:42 AM

I'm right there with ya, Spaw. The guy is a wasted unit.

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 09:07 AM

Well I like him. I love his guitar riffs. I love his genuine reverence for r&b musicians, many of ths songs he has written - and also I've put food on the table banging out a semblance of his music in the corner of numerous pubs.

And if Keef had wanted to eat his dad's dick in a frankfurter bun - that would have been allright with me, too.

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 09:11 AM

He was a w*nker when he was young, he's a w*nker now. Just a "celebrity" one; but all that tells me is that he is an attention-seeker, and clearly there are few limits, if any, to his attention-seeking.

At the same interview he also had the balls (or lack of brains) to criticise current groups and singer/songwriters as "wanting to be something they're not", and called them "crap". That smacks of sheer jealousy and territorial rubbishing of others. As for Keith himself, I think of him as no great artist, his guitar technique was always adequate but not dazzling (not that if it was any better it would change my view of him). Yep, he is a member of a famous group. But to me he is simply a waste of space.

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 09:13 AM

Looks like we differ a little in our views, Al - that's OK, no problem with that on my account.

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: GUEST,tolerance
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 09:15 AM

I ask spaw and mick if they know Keef to criticize him. Your harsh judgments are based only on what the tabloids of the sensationalism of the media tells you. He is one of the best blues guitarists alive today and well respected in the music industry. He has survived probably because deep down is a decent human being and father. He was young and highly influenced by the temptations of what the 'rock' world tempted him when he fell onto the world of drugs, and booze. But has survived and prevailed.

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 09:25 AM

You snort your ancestors' ashes every day, every time the wind blows or the dirt is stirred up. The ancestry might not be as immediate, but it's there.

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: Big Mick
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 09:27 AM

I didn't realize that knowing someone was required to criticize their actions. That is a completely inane comment. Richards is the one that made the comment about snorting his Da with some blow. And it is worthy of criticism.

As to him being one of the best blues guitarists alive....another inane comment. He is certainly a competent blues guitarist, but nothing special. The list of others that are much better is too long to write. True blues affondicio's know who they are.

But, I want to point out that his music (which is mediocre, IMO) has nothing to do with his actions. Knowing Spaw's background, I understand his anger. We make heroes out of people that abuse themselves, to the point of ridiculousness. But we have real heroes out there (such as Spawzer) for whom just staying alive is a heroic task, nevermind all the great things they do with all the challenges in their lives.

Rambling comment generator off......

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: alanabit
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 09:51 AM

I don't have much trouble with an off the wall comment from Keef. None of us here seems to know him well enough to say with any certainty what kind of a bloke he is. Still, some of the people, who have known him best, have been very loyal to him. That tells me something.

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 09:58 AM

Dunno, Alan - loyalty has many possible causes, not all of them selfless. Like most people, I can only go by the persona he chooses to project, off the wall comments and all. He has had 40 years experience of being in the public eye, he's no newcomer to the tabloids, so no excuse there. He may well not give a gnat's fart about the public's view of him - his prerogative. But that does not invalidate the public's view overall; only in his own eyes.

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 10:19 AM

I always loved Geoff Bradford's comment, 'They asked me to be lead guitarist in the Stones, but I said I didn't like the way it was going. They'd just got Keith Richard - tall and sexy looking, and he could play the Chuck Berry riff book backwards, forwards and sideways - so I refused. Always the smart move!'

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: GUEST,tolerance
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 10:30 AM

If Keef abuses himself as much as as the 'tabloids' and sensational media espouses, I think he'd be dead by now. Another artist attacked in such a manner is Bob Dylan who himself has admitted to playing that up to the press and public.

As you mentioned mick, "knowing spaws" background, I certainly don't know spaw at all, but my interpretation of him here here in the Cat is one that is crude and somewhat arrogant. Someone I wouldn't let past my door based on this alone. I do not judge him completely because of his actions here in the Cat for If I knew him personally, then I would have a true impression of him and who knows, I'd invite him into my abode without hesitation.

It cannot be denied Keef is well respected by his peers of musicians, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Concerning his father is who abandoned him at an early age, Keef searched him out and looked after him until his death. He is a decent father who has cared much for his children. Family is important to him and that deserves some respect of him as a human being in this day and age. I'm not raising him to the platform of a hero. Far too many people have been honored as such, so much so, it has cheapened it's true meaning.

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: Big Mick
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 10:37 AM

OK, fair enough, tolerance. I think we will agree to disagree. I am prepared to admit that I don't know about what kind of a Father/Son he is. But I can tell you what I know about his public persona, and it is nothing I would hold up to my kids as an example. And he did, after all, make the comment.

As to his cred's as a musician, I didn't say he wasn't good. But I seriously take issue with your description of him as one of the best blues guitarists alive. He isn't even close.

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: frogprince
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 10:39 AM

In the last couple of minutes, the ads with the original linked article have gone from ads on how to detox your body to ads for rehab centers.
"They'd just got Keith Richard - tall and sexy looking"... Well, I guess he's still tall.

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 10:41 AM

OK, nobody is all bad anyway, I accept that Keef looked after his old da, and that earns him some kudos. Not a total "waste of space" (as I called him earlier), then. Still, with all positive context, or with context excluded, the statement about snorting his dad's ashes is unfortunate, crass, attention-seeking, and quite possibly criminal (is cannibalism not outlawed in the UK?). Not Keef's finest moment, I contend.

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: bobad
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 10:57 AM

I recall hearing about a tribe somewhere (Amazon?) that would cremate their dead relatives then grind up the ashes and ingest them in a beverage. This was a way of insuring that the family members remained together forever. Seems to me that this as reasonable a ritual as those practiced by many religions.

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 11:08 AM

Many things can seem reasonable in one context but not in another, bobad. I have to confess that my own reaction to the news was not "yeah, OK, why not"... Because I have taboos, of course, fed to me by society or religion or whatever. Now, I am not suggesting that all taboos are reasonable either; but when you live in a given society - especially when you have made a good living out of it - you might think twice before bucking its taboos, and not simply depend on celebrity status to excuse you.

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: catspaw49
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 11:29 AM

Just an opinion folks......and I still stick with it. Sure he's a good guitarist....Great? Blues? Please.......An asshole? Yep.

Arrogant? Me? You bet!!! BTW, I am no hero but I am sure as hell egotistical.

The best thing I ever saw Richards do was a conversation with Hunter Thompson. Both completely goofed up......Funniest thing I ever saw.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 12:15 PM

Scientists need to study the incredible bilological inertia of Mr. Richards, then put his brain in formaldahyde.
Abby Normal.

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: GUEST,tolerance
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 12:46 PM

A great blues guitarist isn't manifested on how well one can 'shred the axe' but how one can bring they out the soul in their guitar playing.

Keef has exemplified his craft by his renditions of "You Got to Move", "Prodigal Son"
or how he plays own compositions "Sweet Virginia", "High and Dry", "No Expectations", "Love in Vain" and "Dear Doctor". Simple techniques, but he, as I said brings "out the soul".

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 12:49 PM

One of the characteristic physical appearances in Cannibalistic tribes was the way they aged quickly and their skin 'wrinkled' or 'folded'...need I say more?

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: catspaw49
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 12:50 PM

LOL....Good one GS!

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: Peace
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 12:53 PM

Keith Richards.

I hope I look that good when I'm 92.

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: catspaw49
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 01:29 PM

LOL........And we have yet another WINNER!!!

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: alanabit
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 03:13 PM

Er, tolerance, I think you will find that "Love in Vain" is also associated with Robert Johnson... I am a huge Keith Richard fan though and an off the wall remark about snorting some ashes is not going to put me off the guy. He is not for everyone, but he never said he was.

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: Blindlemonsteve
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 03:18 PM

Long live Rock,,,,,,, snorting ya dads ashes, thats nothing, the second drummer from "Spinal Tap" choked on someone elses vomit.....

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: alanabit
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 04:44 PM

I thought the drummers all exploded?

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: Wesley S
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 05:52 PM

Richards Denies Snorting His Dad's Ashes
By Associated Press
4 hours ago


In this March 12, 2007, file photo, Keith Richards ...
LONDON - Off the cuff or up the nose? That was the question Wednesday as Keith Richards said he was joking when he described snorting his father's ashes along with a hit of cocaine.

"It was an off-the-cuff remark, a joke, and it is not true. File under April Fool's joke," said Bernard Doherty, a Rolling Stones spokesman, about Richards' quote in NME magazine.

But the magazine said on its Web site that the remark was "no quip, but came about after much thinking" by the 63-year-old guitarist.

"He didn't offer the information, I had to ask him a couple of questions to get the information out of him," said interviewer Mark Beaumont. "He didn't come straight out with that."

In the interview, Richards was quoted as saying: "The strangest thing I've tried to snort? My father. I snorted my father."

"He was cremated and I couldn't resist grinding him up with a little bit of blow. My dad wouldn't have cared ... It went down pretty well, and I'm still alive."

Richards' father, Bert, died in 2002, at 84.

In a statement posted on the Rolling Stones Web site, Richards said:

"The complete story is lost in the usual slanting! The truth of the matter is that I planted a sturdy English Oak. I took the lid off the box of ashes and he is now growing oak trees and would love me for it!!! I was trying to say how tight Bert and I were. That tight!!! I wouldn't take cocaine at this point in my life unless I wished to commit suicide."

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Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: Mickey191
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 07:34 PM

Bobad mentioned the Amazons grinding up the departed & ingesting the remains in a beverage. Have you all heard there is a jewelry company that will make a stone out of the dearly departed ashes in your life. You can then have it set in a ring or necklace.
UGH!

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: GUEST,tolerance
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 08:45 PM

You are correct Guest. But people will make harsh judgments based entirely on articles from People Magazine, Daily Mirror, or even New Musical Express or whatever cheap rag that relies on sensationalism to make it's money. People will also draw judgments basely on the appearance of an individual. And yes, pass judgments based on jealous envy. It's a weakness of the human spirit.

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: Big Mick
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 08:47 PM

Bite me, tolerance. That is just a load of aul shite. Judgements, in my case, are based on actions. It wasn't anyone but Keith who said what he said.

Clever dodge, but it won't work.

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: GUEST,tolerance
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 08:55 PM

Mick what actions. Already his comments espoused in the New Musical Express are being questioned. His actions speak for itself. He has never harmed anyone. He is a family man. Only one failed marriage, and that speaks for itself in the world he lives. He may look like a freak and act like one on stage. As Alice Cooper says "the more the public cries out for more, the more outlandish my act will be".

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: Peace
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 08:59 PM

Was there ever any doubt it was meant to be a joke? Keriste, who's gonna tell the world something like that for real? When I die, I am gonna be cremated, put in nickle bags and given to my friends--all two of them. Lighten up. And pass it over here when ya do, because I am trying to get a story on the cannibis thread and I can't find the fu#kin' thread!

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: GUEST,tolerance
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 09:01 PM

One of the most stable marriages in the rock world. Kids and wife who adore him and vice versa. Friendships that have lasted for decades. All round good guy.

Bet he is really cut up with the comments of failed nobodies.

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: Peace
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 09:03 PM

OCD?

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: GUEST,tolerance
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 09:06 PM

No. That comment was made by a nameless Guest. It was deleted. I just copied it and now I posted it as my own. No reason to delete it IMHO.It has a right to be heard in this thread.

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: Peace
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 09:06 PM

I used to get blocked for a few days when I did shit like that. How come this guy's not gwetting blocked?

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: Peace
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 09:07 PM

So, are you also that guest?

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: GUEST,tolerance
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 09:07 PM

I haven't a clue. He's not causing any trouble at all.

Subject: RE: BS: Keith Richards snorted his Dad's ashes!
From: Peace
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 09:08 PM

I found the cannibis thread. Have a nice evening all.