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Subject: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 08 Apr 07 - 08:44 AM

Here we go...

Go Pens!

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 08 Apr 07 - 04:05 PM

Where have all the Mudcat hockey fams gone!!!??!!!

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: gnu
Date: 08 Apr 07 - 08:57 PM

Leafs are gone.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: bobad
Date: 08 Apr 07 - 09:38 PM

I'm looking forward to the Senators-Penguins matchup, should be a terrific series.

Go Sens!


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: Beer
Date: 08 Apr 07 - 09:43 PM

Never left Susan.
Followed you all year. Just didn't feel like getting into it.
But here we goooooooooooo!!!!!
"Red Wings"
Good luck to you Bobad, your going to need it.
Beer (adrien)


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 08 Apr 07 - 09:45 PM

Go, all of them! I like the playoffs no matter who wins, and we'll be doing A LOT of taping this year to save for the summer!

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: Beer
Date: 08 Apr 07 - 09:50 PM

You sure do love hockey.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: GUEST,Texas Guest
Date: 08 Apr 07 - 11:04 PM

"Drapes" and Zetterberg and Lang make the show;
Franzen and Calder and Lebda will go;
Lidstrom, and Holmstrom and "Chelly" I hear,
before Ozzie and Hasek - the pucks won't get near;
With Maltby and Schneider and Samuelsson, too,
The Wings got a shot this year to come through;
But I live in Texas, no "Joe" games for me
Unless they play Dallas - all in Red there I'll be
Otherwise I'm at home at my tv I'll shout
Here in old Fort Worth, Texas called - "Hockeytown South"
GO RED WINGS! BRING IT HOME THIS YEAR! GO RED WINGS!


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 Apr 07 - 09:06 AM

NHL.com has the first-round media schedule up.

Our cable will not get the Sunday Pens games-- I guess we'll make do with NHL radio.


EASTERN CONFERENCE

No. 1 Buffalo vs. No. 8 N.Y. Islanders

No. 2 New Jersey vs. No. 7 Tampa Bay

No. 3 Atlanta vs. No. 6 N.Y. Rangers

No. 4 Ottawa vs. No. 5 Pittsburgh


WESTERN CONFERENCE

No. 1 Detroit vs. No. 8 Calgary

No. 2 Anaheim vs. No. 7 Minnesota

No. 3 Vancouver vs. No. 6 Dallas

No. 4 Nashville vs. No. 5 San Jose


~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: GUEST,Texas Guest
Date: 09 Apr 07 - 01:22 PM

WYSIWYG - thanks for the info. I was hoping for some late night coverage of the Red Wings down here but it looks like we might not get it since the Stars are also playing out west. Hopefully they'll schedule the games in a fashion to allow for the viewing of both.
Next year it's going to be a "Center Ice" year in this house.
BTW - for anyone who reads this - do you have any experience with Center Ice broadcasts either on tv or over the internet? I've heard that the internet broadcasts are not of very high quality.
Comments please? From Hockeytown South - Cheers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 Apr 07 - 04:11 PM

I think the NHL game times they posted so quickly may be wrong, since Versus has said they will have 7PM and 10PM coverage.... I'm going to check the Versus schedule again to be sure. In any case we have enjoyed NHL Radio, and often that coverage is stored and will re-stream up-- until they get ready for that team's next game.

In case anyone doesn't know the following, or knows better than I do:

If your PC has Total Recorder you can set it for start/end times, like a VCR... the problem with NHL Radio I had, though, was that I have not yet been able to determine that I can turn it on early, leave, and count on it to start sound when the coverage begins. What you CAN do, though, for sure, is find out what radio station the NHL Radio feed is FROM (usually the regular radio partner for your team's regular season play), and get that streaming early in the day. You let that run, with Total Recorder programmed to start recording just before the start of whatever pregame show you might like.

LOCAL TV OPTION: I know this is true for the Pens games; I am not sure it applies to all teams. But I undertand that in the US, Versus doesn't have an exclusive deal. The local (in our case cable) broadcast will still happen, in realtime-- and that means a cheap VCR is in order if you lack recording capability. (NBC's deal IS exclusive as far as I know.)

PC PKGS: We don't do this so I don't have details, but I DO know that a lot of hockey fans have cable by demand, some via their PCs, and record to DVD from that. Now, I can't imagine getting set for that if you aren't already familiar/equipped, in the next 2-3 days-- but you might know someone in your area who MIGHT be set up for it, and who might be "bought"! :~)

It's a good time to find your favorite sports bar and see what they plan. Maybe they can tape, and replay for a crowd at a later time, though that would be illegal and WRONG! :~)

Thank God I am semi-retired and don't have to use up sick days for the playoffs! :~)

Last year I watched every gfame, every team, that I could. When it was over I was massively in withdrawal. This year I will do a lot of taping and Total Recording, but save a lot of them for the summer.

And yes I do love hockey-- one reason is because it's so energizing to watch it that I spend a lot of the game-break time running around to do the chores I hate. My house and my laundry benefit, and so does my metabolism. Also our dog is addicted-- he gets a chew-treat at each goal scored by the good guys, so he plays close attention to the commentators and crowd noises to anticipate these. And I don't mind seeing a game twice-- once live and once again in the next day or two with Hardi if his schedule has made him miss the live coverage.

It's all good! (Except the excessive number of bookmarks I have accumulated.)

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 Apr 07 - 04:24 PM

At the NHL SCHEDULE, the game times have been changed from those posted last night.

VERSUS SCHEDULE

"Subject to Change":
VERSUS ANNOUNCES NHL PLAYOFFS QUARTERFINAL SCHEDULE

STAMFORD, Conn. (April 9, 2007) - VERSUS, the national cable television home of the NHL, today announced the network's schedule for the 2007 Stanley Cup Playoff Conference Quarterfinal round, which begins on Wednesday, April 11 with VERSUS' pre-game studio show "Hockey Central" at 6:30 p.m. ET, followed by a double-header at 7 p.m. ET when the Ottawa Senators host the Pittsburgh Penguins and at 10 p.m. with the Dallas Stars at the Vancouver Canucks. Each week night VERSUS will feature one to two playoff games, as well the studio wrap-up show, "Hockey Central".

VERSUS anticipates airing up to 52 playoff games, as well as the first two games of the Stanley Cup Final. The number of playoff games will vary depending upon the length of each individual series.

The complete schedule for the NHL Playoffs Quarterfinal round follows (subject to change):

Wednesday, April 11 7 p.m. ET: Game 1, Pittsburgh at Ottawa
10 p.m. ET: Game 1, Dallas at Vancouver

Thursday, April 12 7 p.m. ET: Game 1, Calgary at Detroit

Friday, April 13 9 p.m. ET: Game 2, Dallas at Vancouver

Saturday, April 14 7:30 p.m. ET: Game 2, Islanders at Buffalo

Sunday, April 15 6 p.m. ET: Game 3, Ottawa at Pittsburgh
8:30 p.m. ET: Game 3, Vancouver at Dallas

Monday, April 16 7:30 p.m. ET: Game 3, Buffalo at Islanders
10 p.m. ET: Game 3, Nashville at San Jose

Tuesday, April 17 7 p.m. ET: Game 4, Ottawa at Pittsburgh
10 p.m. ET: Game 4, Detroit at Calgary

Wednesday, April 18 7:30 p.m. ET: Game 4, Buffalo at Islanders
10 p.m. ET: Game 4, Nashville at San Jose

Thursday, April 19 7 p.m. ET: Game 5*, Pittsburgh at Ottawa
9:30 p.m. ET: Game 5*, Detroit at Calgary
12 a.m. ET (JIP): Game 5*, Dallas at Vancouver

Friday, April 20 7 p.m. ET: Game 5*, Islanders at Buffalo
9:30 p.m. ET (JIP): Game 5*, San Jose at Nashville, Game 5*

Saturday, April 21 8 p.m. ET: Game 6*, Vancouver at Dallas

Sunday, April 22 7 p.m. ET: Game 6*, Buffalo at Islanders
9:30 p.m. ET (JIP): Game 6*, Detroit at Calgary
11:30 p.m. ET (JIP): Game 6*, Nashville at San Jose

Monday, April 23 7 p.m. ET: Game 7*, Rangers at Atlanta
10 p.m. ET: Game 7*, Dallas at Vancouver

Tuesday, April 24 7 p.m. ET: Game 7*, Calgary at Detroit
9:30 p.m. ET: Game 7*, San Jose at Nashville

*Games subject to change as best of seven series may be over

**Please note on the following dates: April 19 Detroit/Calgary and Dallas/Vancouver; April 22 Detroit/Calgary; April 23 Dallas/Vancouver; April 24 San Jose/Nashville that times are tentative and subject to change.


~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: GUEST,Texas Guest
Date: 09 Apr 07 - 05:14 PM

Thanks WYSIWYG - there's hope in Hockeytown South tonight! Cheers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 Apr 07 - 05:24 PM

I didn't know until recently that a Mudcat message-- the individual message-- has a link within it to set it to "printer friendly." I guess I know what to print for MY fridge, now! :~)

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: Becca72
Date: 09 Apr 07 - 07:07 PM

My team's out so I don't really care...but I'll watch anyway.

Stanley Cuuuuuuup! :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: Pseudolus
Date: 10 Apr 07 - 03:42 PM

I'll watch but I won't like it...My Flyers just stunk up the joint!!! The worst record in the league!!! And to make matters worse, my saviors, the Phillies, the Beast of the East, the TEAM TO BEAT.....is 1 and 6. And oh yeah, Spring is a total no show! It's after Easter and I'm still wearing a winter coat to work!!!!!

On the up side, the Flyers have possibly solved their goaltending woes with Biron! Of course that's next year...... :(

Frank


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 Apr 07 - 06:22 PM

Now FRANK, you KNOW the Flyers had a GREAT finish to their season! The Pens almost didn't get that sixth win over them! And didn't they just show us all how to beat the Sabres?!?!?!?!?!?!? I have that one, the third period at least, to study up on!

Next year they are going to be a major pain in the patoot, don't you doubt it!

And the local buzz is that the Antlers is looking GREAT! Who sez there ain't no spring?

Geez, don't make me come over there! :~)

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 12 Apr 07 - 02:56 PM

Pens went down, bad, I understand, in last night's playoff opener. We were out at a function, so we're steeling ourselves to watch it on video tonight. Alcohol? Lots and lots of of alcohol.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: GUEST,Texas Guest
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 11:34 AM

There is MUCH JOY in Hockeytown South today - Wings 4-1 over the Calgary Flames in game #1; and, to top it off at least in the first round, on the nights that the Wings are not playing we get to watch the Stars - such a deal. Now, if I could only write songs,...Cheers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 01:02 PM

Are there any teams that didn't make the playoffs and will it all be over by July ?


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: bobad
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 01:27 PM

Yes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 02:31 PM

TG-- yeah, that was a GREAT game.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 08:33 PM

Well, we've watched the video of Game 1, and here's our take:

The Pens didn't go down quite as badly as the naysaying commentary in the press might indicate. In the third period, they finally got the butterflies out and their unique, signature game on, and scored two goals before time ran out. I think they have a good chance of coming out strong in Game 2.

GO PENS!

Now, on to the hopefully-extralong Stars/Canucks game for the evening. Hope the tape is long enough! :~)

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: Willie-O
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 09:58 PM

In yer dreams Susan!

I don't even care, don't have any emotional attachment to the fact that my hometown team kicked your team's ass real bad. 5-2.

The schedule you posted is missing some games--the word I heard today is that game 2 Pittsburgh-Ottawa is 3 pm Saturday, (considered a pretty weird time, as if something is wrong with playing a game on Saturday afternoon.)

I don't watch NHL hardly at all, but I'd like to see Crosbie play. I was annoyed that he wasn't on Canada's Olympic team last year--yet that thug Bertuzzi was. Real Olympic ideals in practice--not! Gretzky was a far better player than he is a manager.

W-O


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 11:18 PM

W-O, you need to catch up, man. Your team kicked our team's ass SIX-- to 3. First they kicked it 6-1, then we came back to 6-3.

None of them like early games, cuz their day is geared to night games. I think they have trouble knowing what time to poop and it throws off their whole day. :~)

The VERSUS schedule I posted doesn't include that game because Versus won't have it-- NBC will. Versus will lack a lot of games in Canadia, as well. That's why I later posted the link to the more complete NHL schedoolie.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: GUEST,Bardford
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 12:15 AM

CBC will be live streaming games on the interweb. Next up - Pens and Sens. 3 p.m. ET on April 14

CBC Hockey page


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: GUEST,Texas Guest
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 12:18 AM

Stars 2 - 0 over Vancouver. YES! Hate to be so selfish here, but I do belive that if the Stars make it to the next round and my beloved RED WINGS make it past the Flames - they will play each other; which,
of course, means the boys in red will come down to play in Dallas;
which, of course, means that the wife and I will be there. Everyone should get to the rink at least once to see their team play for the cup - don't you think? Cheers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 09:48 AM

Wish I was set up to record DVD off PC, but we aren't. If anyone DOES record that game, via DVD on PC or by good old VHS, of course we would dearly love to see it even long after the fact, just so we can continue our study of the Pens interesting development saga.

TG-- I agree, absolutely. Best of luck!

~Susan
motormice@hotmail.com


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 10:26 AM

The CBC link above indicates archived streams for two games, but gives me this message when I try to open them: Sorry, this file can only be viewed within Canada. Maybe that's only for archives, so I'll check later at game time.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 12:07 PM

I used a Fox page last year to track teams' playoff progress across all matchups. (All matchups at a glance.)
This year's version isn't QUITE as readable, but I haven't found a better one yet, US or Canadia.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 08:27 AM

:~)


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: GUEST,Texas Guest
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 05:50 PM

Wings 3 - Flames 1   
YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS!
GO WINGS - KEEP IT UP AND BRING IT HOME!
Happiness in Hockeytown South. Cheers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: Beer
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 09:31 PM

I'm with you "Tex". They played a great game and the shots on net in the last 2 games ! Wow!!
Hay bobad!, your team looked good. tonight


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: bobad
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 09:45 PM

Yeah, they did look good but I'm not getting my hopes up too high just yet - been let down too many times in the past.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: Beer
Date: 15 Apr 07 - 10:00 PM

Understand buddy. My Wings have been there also.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: leftydee
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 06:44 PM

Buy yer tickets now, Tex. Wings in 5. Good to see you Beer!


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: GUEST,Texas Guest
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 12:08 AM

Leftydee - I'd love to buy my tickets now but the Stars are not scoring goals - Turco's playing heads up but Modano and Morrow and company are not giving him any support, so the Stars, down 2-1 and headed to Vancouver may not make it.

I was also thinking last night that the Wings usually play Dallas in the conference finals and the Wings will have to get by the Ducks (and I think they can)to get that opportunity. Either way, though, between NBC and Versus, why it looks like every Red Wings game will be on television and that is an acceptable situation when you live thirteen-hundred miles from home ice.

But, let's keep this thread running through the playoffs - it's a great way for hockey fans of all teams to communicate and ride each other for fun.
Cheers, and,.....................GO RED WINGS!


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: Beer
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 06:57 PM

Think I'll sleep an hour so I can watch the Wings as they come on at 10 p.m. our time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 08:01 PM

We've seen some of their games-- excellent. GO WINGS!

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: GUEST,Texas Guest
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 07:48 AM

Oh, man does it hurt today. I caught a few hours of WXYT over the net yesterday and the question of the day was whether or not to start Bertuzzi if he is ready to go - the problem was that the WINGS are on a roll, do you want to break up the lines and and mess with the momentum they have going?

Well, as usual, they didn't listen to me. My thought was - leave it alone, let Bertuzzi sit, don't mess with the chemistry. Well it's a sad day in Hockeytown South; hell, even the Stars lost their game so there's no emotional refuge to be found there. Fortunately the WINGS
are still up 2-1 in the series (Stars are now down 3-1 and headed back out to Vancouver)and they'll get to return to "The Joe" again. GO RED WINGS!


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 09:58 AM

It's sad to see the media ganging up on the Pens, who were never even expected to make the playoffs. The talk about the second-period slump, especially. I bet there's a physiological cause having to do with maturing bodies of young men-- it's not so different from what we see in road cycling, where it isn't until the mid-20's to later 20's that muscle, bone, and testosterone production combine for explosive power and sustainable power over the length of a stage race (such as 3 weeks in the Tour de France), not to mention overnight recovery to do it all again the next day, not to mention the much-hyped "experience" factor. You can only jerk the chain of adrenaline so many times before other body systems have to take over, and all the heart in the world won't make a body mature quicker. We'll see how much last night's adrenaline surge to look better in the second period hurt the Pens when they try not to get eliminated in Ottawa tomorrow night. I only hope the media disappointment doesn;t interfgere with the team, coachiung staff, and management learning the strategic lessons inherent in ANY Cup experience, and take the positives from this post-season that they have all earned.

~Susan

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: Beer
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 10:13 AM

Susan.
The Pens are going to be one hell of a great team. I to hope they don't make any major changes.
Beer (adrien)


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 10:49 AM

Aw, that's nice of you to say that, Adrien. I don't think they will-- GO PENS!

RE GAME COVERAGE:
I think I have said this before, but in case anyone doesn't know it, NHL Radio streams are available to hear (and record if you have Total Recorder or similar gizmos) the day after the game and sometimes longer, until the link for the team's next game goes up. Since TR can only record one game at a time, I'm getting some of last night's action now, that was blocked from TV for our area (DAMN Versus!).I'll use the games to keep me fired up while I aquajog in the coming weeks, and for recliner entertainment with Hardi over the summer hockey break.

This week we tried a new recliner-hockey thing, it was helpful as well as fun. I printed off the Devils and Lightning rosters. I took the Lightning, Hardi took the Devils. Roster in hand, I sat in the recliner at MY goalie's end of the ice, and Hardi the Devils end. "Here we come to get you," I'd say as the radio announcer gave us the call. It sounds silly, but we did actually learn who was playing for whom so well, and visualize the ice so well by putting ourselves in relative ends of the ice, that it made the game a lot easier to follow just in practical terms. And it was fun! (I beat him of course, but he got even last night.) Now, the recliners were actually side by side, but it really helped me keep track of what direction the paly was moving and therefore wich side was right and left from that view as the announcer called it. If we listen to the games in our camper this summer we'll sit across from each other and wave mini-sticks at a checker on the table! :~) Pong-style hockey!

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: Beer
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 09:57 PM

Sorry Susan about your loss.
Congratulations Bobad on your win.
Go Wings Go.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 11:30 PM

Awwww. Go Wings!

Anyway, now I can get back to enjoying the playoffs. Damn Pens made it all.... matter. (I couldn't have taken it much longer.)

I gotta pick anudder team to follow for the next couple of weeks!

(I'll write more tomorrow on what I think the Sens did to get this one.)

(Maybe.)


~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: GUEST,Texas Guest
Date: 20 Apr 07 - 08:39 AM

"Slip-slidin away; slip-slidin' away; oh, the nearer your destination the more you slip-slidin away." Just thinkin about last nights game and it looks like my beloved Wings are back on track for a repeat of their usual early round playoff bow-out. The loss last night turns this thing into a "best of three" series and the momentum surely in the Flames camp. There is some solace, however, the Stars won their game despite Mike Modano and that keeps hockey alive on the sports pages and the radio talk shows in the Dallas/Fort Worth area.
GO WINGS!


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: Beer
Date: 21 Apr 07 - 11:11 PM

Go Wing Go
Newfoundlanders (especially from Carbonear and the folks stuck in the ice watching hockey.)must be dancing and partying the way their boy Dan Cleary played.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: GUEST,Texas Guest
Date: 22 Apr 07 - 02:04 AM

YYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS! - RED WINGS demolish the Flames. What a great and gritty game Daniel Cleary.
Chelly, a goal, outstanding! Zetterberg, Pavel - great game guys!

A very happy night in Hockeytown and Hockeytown South. I can only hope that the distasteful actions of the Calgary Flames near the end of the game will be the impetus to spur the Wings on to put this puppy to bed tomorrow afternoon.

And, to top it off - the Stars win too! The same for them - the distateful actions of the Canucks near and at the end of their game should spur the Stars on to kick their collective asses on Monday. The sport is rough enough - we don't need cheap shots designed to do nothing but take people out of the game. Suspensions are needed to keep the cheap shot players at bay and their teams out of the running for The Cup. GO RED WINGS!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 01 May 07 - 02:45 PM

I have to say I am really impressed with the Senators, and it's getting harder to stay mad at them for kicking us out. I said at the end of Round 1 that this may be their year. They certainly look that way from their ability to deal with Brodeur. I hate him-- so I wish them well. :~)

I think, after seeing the videos again briefly, that what they did to the Pens was to play them man-to-man when the Pens had worked hard all year to learn and incorporate a positional system. Last year, you could jerk them off their game by scaring them into chasing pucks, and people. Therrien broke them of that and that's good. No doubt he will continue to teach them new approaches as they mature as a team.

I would have liked to see the Pens assistant coaches come up with some better special-teams approaches to address what the Sens threw at them. I hope they come up with some honest, denial-avoiding answers on that over the summer.

I am not yet a Malkin fan. I think the NHL was bigger, faster, tougher, meaner, and more skilled than he bargained for and that he got rattlesd. Not only in the playoffs, but all year he was inconsistent in things large and small. The small things bother me-- being able to pass and receive passes for instance, and being able to read plays better. It will not surpise me if he decides, after playing for Russia this summer, if he decides he'd rather be a huge fish in a small pond than come back to the NHL. Of course this WAS his rookie year-- and not all rookies do as well as Sidney Crosby and Jordan Staal in maturing their skills.

The Sens also are fulfilling another prediction I made after last year's Cup and since then, and that is that the winning team has to be able to play every round differently and be able to adjust not only strategy but skills, depending on what's being shown to them by their opponents. I see the Sens doing that so far; that takes not only players with a variety of skills to apply but a coach who can see and explain what he wants them to do differently. The Oilers were THE model of this last year. This year I see the Sens showing some signs of it. It's too early to tell, but again-- it may be that this is their year.

I think the Pens are also going to capapble of that approach in the near future; the assitant coaches who are in charge of special teams bear a large part of that challenge. (I think Therrien already has that mindset.) I hope GM Ray Shero holds steady on his stated commitments and has the patience to let that approach grow with the boys' ability to fulfill it.

By the time our arena is done, we ought to be able to host the Cup finals. And maybe win it that year.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: AWG
Date: 04 May 07 - 02:19 PM

Sabres over Rangers, Ottawa over NJ, Ducks over Van, Sharks over Wings. Then, Ottawa over Sabres, Sharks over Ducks, and then Sharks win Stanley Cup. Just some predictions.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: Beer
Date: 05 May 07 - 10:46 PM

Bobad!
Were still in the thick of things.
Good luck to your Senators.
Ad.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: bobad
Date: 06 May 07 - 12:22 AM

One more series to go before the showdown with the ?Wings.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: Beer
Date: 08 May 07 - 12:04 PM

YES!
And on we go.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: gnu
Date: 20 May 07 - 10:29 AM

Ducks on the Wings? 3PM ET today eh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 20 May 07 - 10:59 AM

Like I said before, it may that this is the Sens' year. On the other hand, they DID touch the conference trophy they won yesterday, and that's baaaaad luck.

Go Wings, though!

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: gnu
Date: 20 May 07 - 11:01 AM

Me too. Go Wings!


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 20 May 07 - 12:17 PM

I've really been enjoying the podcasts available at NHL.com. Great background stuff, minus the mile-a-minute jabber and soundbites of TV sportcasting.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: gnu
Date: 20 May 07 - 04:10 PM

C'est le hockey la! Bajeezo eh! That first period was riveting! Despite the mistakes... nerves?

Ah... first game I have watched all season. Now, that is hockey!

Oh, I mean, first NHL game. I watched the Canucks win the world championship again, of course. But, that's a different type of hockey. This is REAL hockey. The LORD knows.... eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: Big Mick
Date: 20 May 07 - 04:16 PM

My Red Wings better tighten up their game or they are going to go down 3-2. Too many power play opportunities given up to the Ducks.

Go Wings!!!!

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: Big Mick
Date: 20 May 07 - 04:24 PM

Now we're talking. 1-0 Wings!!! Go Wings.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: gnu
Date: 20 May 07 - 06:22 PM

Ouch. That clerance into.... no.... better left unsaid.... ouch says it all.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: Beer
Date: 20 May 07 - 06:32 PM

Shit!!!!! Say's it better.
I don't know. It's going to be a tough time ahead. But you know what? Detroit in 7.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 20 May 07 - 07:08 PM

Big Mick, you lousy jinx!

GO WINGS!

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: gnu
Date: 20 May 07 - 07:29 PM

Wings in 7? Um, not after seeing that. It's like they were trying to lose.... why clear the puck into your own end when killing a penalty? Nerves? And.... nevermind.... let's see what happens next game....

... but.... that was a perplexing game.

Of course, Wings in 7 would sell a LOT of beer.

AHA! GO WINGS!


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: Big Mick
Date: 20 May 07 - 08:08 PM

Susan ..... 2 ...... 3...... 4 ....... BITE ME!!! ***chuckle***

Being from Michigan, I have been a Red Wings fan for more years than you have been alive, young 'un. If I am a jinx, then they have a helluva record in spite of me. But my boys will be back.

GO WINGS!!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 20 May 07 - 08:22 PM

Take your choice, Hockeytown man:

1. GO WINGS, but when thou win'st, touch thou not the conference trophy lest the Lord STRIKE YOU DEAD! (So that the foolish Sens' error can be the Wings' edge.)

2. I am sure, as you say, that you are far, FAR older than I, so GUM ME. :~)

3. They were doing fine till you weighed in here.... (ouch)

4. It's a well-known fact that I'm prettier than you are, and so are are our Penguins... who are also younger and fitter than the both of us.


Ah, hockey.... Second only to BEER!

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: GUEST,Texas Guest
Date: 20 May 07 - 09:23 PM

Well, unfortunately JSG has had the Wings number for several years now - he just seems to always pose a severe obstacle for my guys; having written that - you cannot take as many shots as the Wings did and not get the biscuit in the basket without being considered "snake bit," and I think the Wings are just that - in this series.

Consider: the Wings take game one - YAY! - then proceed to play a tight second game only to lose in overtime - at home - Boo! So, I'm thinking, o.k., go out to California, split the two games and you're back to home ice advantage - Wings take game three, STRONGLY - YAY!

So, now we're looking at game four with the a**hole Pronger sitting on the wooden slats and I'm thinking that the Red Wave will come out kicking tail and take this series to 3-1 with the series going back to The Joe. No way - Wings lose, big time - Boo! That win is a real lift to the stinking, lousy, weasel team from California but they play a sub-par game five that they should have lost - then win it in overtime at The Joe due to a late cheap penalty (but legit) and a bad turn-over in front of the Wings net - Boo! Two costly Red Wing mistakes.

The Wings "should" have won that game - it was theirs - now their collective ass is on the ropes and I would be surprised to see a game seven in Detroit. Even with that, I love 'em and I'll be cheering like hell on Tuesday and anything can happen in NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs. If, however, the Wings don't go to the finals I will immediately becmome a Senators fan (only for a brief time, mind you) as I really do dislike those cheap-shot a**holes from California who don't deserve to win anything, much less, get their name on the Stanley Cup.
GO WINGS GO! Cheers from Hockeytown South!


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: Big Mick
Date: 20 May 07 - 09:42 PM

I love hockey, it brings out the best in all of us......LOL.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 20 May 07 - 10:12 PM

I am first a Pens fan, and so of course I am hoping to see the Sens pay dearly for their conference-trophy folly. Also, we love Chelios and the whole Wings approach..... it will be easy to be for them, especially against the Sens who I am glad made it to the final, because each five-gamer they win mitigates against the taste they left in Pens' fans' mouths. Eeeeee....www......

And I agree-- the Wings "should" have won [today's] game - it was theirs - now their collective ass is on the ropes and I would be surprised to see a game seven in Detroit. Even with that, I love 'em and I'll be cheering like hell on Tuesday and anything can happen in NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs. If, however, the Wings don't go to the finals I will [have no choice but to] immediately becmome a Senators fan (only for a brief time, mind you) as I really do dislike those cheap-shot a**holes from California who don't deserve to win anything, much less, get their name on the Stanley Cup!!!!

GO WINGS GO! Cheers [from all right-thinking people]!

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: Beer
Date: 20 May 07 - 10:15 PM

Good to hear from you Tex. I'm on my 6th beer but it's not helping. Overall I thought it was a great exciting game but with the wrong results. Was that Cleary who took the ride on the boards? Hope he had his Jock on.
Beer (adrien)


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: 3refs
Date: 21 May 07 - 04:45 AM

Interesting fact!
Every ten years on the 7....37,47,57,67,77,87,97 the Cup has either been won by a Canadian team or the Detroit Red Wings!

GO WINGS GO!!!!!!!!

(I tryed saying "Go Senators Go" and bit my tongue)


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: Beer
Date: 21 May 07 - 08:31 AM

Now that's positive thinking and interesting.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: 3refs
Date: 21 May 07 - 08:59 AM

Watched a bit of yesterdays game on N.B.C., and it's no wonder most people south of the border don't like hockey. Broadcasters sucked!!!!
Wife asked "what is going on" as I flicked back and forth and I told her, "It's all in the broadcasting". You folks down south should try and watch C.B.C.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 21 May 07 - 09:12 AM

Is it just me, or did camera angles bring the games this year much closer than last year's coverage (all year)?

Last year I think the cameras were pulled back a bit to show the plays shaping up from farther back, and showing more of the ice surface at any given time. Now it all is shot so zoomed-in that I can't see what they're doing as a whole team until they show the replay's altrernate cameras. I think before, the alternate view was the closer one. Now it's all just big guys in bright suits, close in, with play by play that sees and tries to describe more but that we can't see for ourselves.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: Beer
Date: 21 May 07 - 09:34 AM

I think the fellow that stands in between the two player benches should be told by the coaches to take a flying leap. I would be really pi...off if he tried to get in my face while coaching a game. I think it stinks and brings nothing to hockey but interference.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 21 May 07 - 10:14 AM

It's part of a deliberate marketing strategy on the part of the NHL. It emanates from there....

If you look at the NHL.com site-- in the material around the Collective Bargaining Agreement that ended the lockout-- you'll note that new broadcasting initiatives are included? Because at the time of the CBA, the NHL and the players agreed on the basic princiople that they had damn near killed hockey with all the pay-per-view stuff that was paying for the big-money teams.

The salary cap came, on one side of the equation; the increased marketing to fans came on the other side. It was all part of a plan to return hockey to its tradtionally-broadbased target market-- jack up prices on game tix and concessions, but keep media coverage affordable by letting corporate sponsors pay to show it to us.

It worked to the extent that now, Versus and NBC have got a sponsor for every moment of the game. In addition to the traditional ads plastered on the boards, we get our screens cluttered up with logos of who's sponsoring the power plays, and so forth. The opening faceoffs are sponsored by "Blah Blah Company brings the puck on time."

They are selling not only the commercial time, but screenshot time during the game itself. It clutters up the screen, but at least it's not pay-per-view.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: Beer
Date: 21 May 07 - 10:40 AM

Unreal.
Thanks for the explanation.
I still don't think the coaching staff would be for it. But they probably don't have much say anyway.
Beer (adrien)


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 21 May 07 - 10:55 AM

Some of the coaches like it more than others. Some of them, you can see the lips curl as they speak. Some play to the camera; I think their relationships with their particular GMs have a lot to do with their motivation. But this is also how and why we get "Mic'd Up" at intermission (player talk from during the play of the game), and why Marty Turco was not only mic'd during the AllStar game, but his entire in-game chat with the commentators was live, not during intermission... "s'cuse me a minute, guys, I think the puck's coming this way," was a little unreal.

There is certainly a deeper level to this media agreement than we have access to~ if you are going to play mic'd up, you have to have some basic trust that someone in your team's organization is going to screen and pre-approve what will be used, or it could get pretty colorful to say the least. "I'm gonna kill that m*therf*cker," just before a hard hit for instance, could be used in league discipline, and no player I know of would agree to a mic that would be used THAT way, never mind colorful and potentially ethnic remarks from an agitator, etc. They would have to have some basic comfort level with the policy that's controlling all that, or it would distrct them too much from playing at the speed and level they play.

SOMEbuddy's gotta be in charge of all that, and I'd love to be a fly on THAT wall, wouldn't you?

Maybe a tradeoff for the teams is all the free game film from every possible camera angle they could wish, served up keyed to player stats for them. That could be a nice chucnk of change they'd be saving the teams, to turn all that over gratis. "Here's your Chelios CD-ROM for the week," and so forth. It would save the teams some techie staff, and I could see that as a strong bed-sharing motivator.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: bobad
Date: 23 May 07 - 07:48 AM

My sympathies to all youse Wings fans, I guess you'll be rootin' for the Senators now.

Go Sens!


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: 3refs
Date: 23 May 07 - 08:47 AM

So, now that the Wings have been eliminated, according to the 27, 37,47.....formula I posted earlier, the Senators should win the cup! Wrong! The Cup has never been won by a team with a European captain! So it looks like the Ducks!


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: Beer
Date: 23 May 07 - 09:04 AM

Go Senators.
So sad. Even this sunny day isn't helping.
Beer 9Adrien)


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 May 07 - 10:14 AM

Just waking up, groggy.... oh yeah.... we went to bed at the second intermission, sure they'd be out. So they're out. BUMMER!

GO SENS!


~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: GUEST,Texas Guest
Date: 23 May 07 - 02:08 PM

A sad, sad, day in Hockeytown South. As stated several days ago, I really do dislike the ducks and their cheap-shot style of play; also, having heard an inteview with the Senators head coach - I like him a bunch - not on game day against the Wings; but, I like him.
So, I guess it's down to GO SENS!...and enjoy your Duck Soup.

By the way, my wife asked me the other day - why do they call them the Senators? I thought for a minute and came to the realization that I don't know. Quebec is the capital of Canada, right?...so is Ottawa a provincial capital?...or am I missing something here and haven't got the slightest idea as to what I'm talking about?
Cheers hockey fans - especially you wing-nuts out there.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: 3refs
Date: 23 May 07 - 03:05 PM

Ottawa, Ontario.= Capital of Canada
Toronto, Ontario=Capital of Ontario
Quebec= Province in Canada(Quebec City=Capital of the Province of Quebec)

GO DUCKS GO!!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: 3refs
Date: 23 May 07 - 03:08 PM

p.s.
The Senators borrowed their sweater crests(or emblems)from a prophylactic company!


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: bobad
Date: 23 May 07 - 03:13 PM

OK TG, time for your geography lesson. First off, Quebec is a province in Canada and Quebec City is it's capital. The capital and seat of federal government of Canada is Ottawa and the senate comprises one branch of it's government, hence the Senators, whose logo is a Roman centurion - go figure.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 May 07 - 03:22 PM

Roman Senators.

I want to know about the AWAY jersey logo they sport on the arms of the sweater. WAY cool: S in a circle, with a wing extending, always pointing behind them as they travel down the ice. Home jersey, different logo, and points one way on oine arm and the other way on the other.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 May 07 - 03:29 PM

See arm logo here:

http://www2.ottawasenators.com/eng/News/redirect.cfm?sectionID=photogallerymain.cfm&sr=25

Click to enlarge the third picture on that page.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: 3refs
Date: 23 May 07 - 03:41 PM

That's the F.T.D. florist.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: GUEST,Texas Guest
Date: 23 May 07 - 05:22 PM

Thanks for the Canadian geo/politico lesson guys. I grew up in Detroit but they never taught us anything about Canada - now I know.
GO RED WINGS GO!


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: Becca72
Date: 23 May 07 - 06:38 PM

Anyone from Quebec would agree with you, Texas Guest...but they're a bit short-sighted.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: gnu
Date: 23 May 07 - 06:42 PM

Except when it comes to fresh water, electric power, iron ore and plutoniun. Parlez big bucks, eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: GUEST
Date: 24 May 07 - 07:24 AM

Dear Texas Guest

The Wings are dead. Golfing by now!

The Ducks are about to crap all over "The Senate" floor!


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: gnu
Date: 24 May 07 - 10:25 AM

Nah. The Ducks are gonna get plucked.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: GUEST,Texas Guest
Date: 24 May 07 - 12:37 PM

Thank you, gnu. The Wings played honorably and will be back next season for another go-round; for the time being I'll say - GO SENS!
And do so wearing my Chelios jersey. Cheers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: gnu
Date: 24 May 07 - 01:30 PM

Hey! Why can't I seem to find what Don has to say about the Cup?


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: bobad
Date: 24 May 07 - 01:56 PM

He's a Leafs fan that's why, sour grapes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: gnu
Date: 24 May 07 - 02:02 PM

Hey.... he backed the Senators last year!


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: gnu
Date: 24 May 07 - 03:16 PM

Hmmm. On second thought, maybe I don't wanna know.

Go Senators!

(That just don't sound right. Who the **** names a hockey team "Senators"? Of course, I suppose it's better than being a "Duck".)


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 24 May 07 - 04:29 PM

100


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 28 May 07 - 07:39 PM

101, and here we go!

Versus has some cheesy pre-game archival footage all week, and a few old hockumentaries on the non-game nights as well. Oh, the footage is great, but it's hosted by Al Smarmwig and that alone qualifies for the Mortadell Award.

I hope the coverage in Canadia is better! I'm taping if anyone wants to swap (PM me) for Canadian-coverage DVDs.

But anyway-- here we go!

GO SENS, and murdellize them Ducks! (Plank 'em!)

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 29 May 07 - 10:06 AM

Here's how we resolved the tricky business of rooting for the team that washed our Pens out in the first round.

We want to see the Sens have to go to 7 games, and win 7 in a nailbiter. We don't mind if they lose three games and get really freaked out about it, as long as they dine on Ducks at the end.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: Mooh
Date: 29 May 07 - 01:06 PM

I'm always gonna cheer for a Canadian team or an "original six" team after the Leafs choke. Even got a Sens jersey, but I wish I knew why they illustrate a senator more like a centurian (which is more frightening I suppose).

Leafs in '08.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: gnu
Date: 29 May 07 - 03:35 PM

Sue said : "We don't mind if they lose three games and get really freaked out about it, as long as they dine on Ducks at the end."

Hehehe... Not to worry, my dear. This is an old Canuck ruse. Lull them into a false sense of security by letting them win the first two games. Of course, it also goes with the old Canuck business ruse, which is, sell as many beer as possible and let it all hang out in game seven.

Of course, it will probably be in game six... at home.

In any case, the old saying is, "First game don't matter... last game does."

Okay, I just made that up, but it's true.

G'Ottawa!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: gnu
Date: 03 Jun 07 - 09:43 AM

All according to plan so far.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 03 Jun 07 - 10:06 AM

Yup.

Pronger sure plays differently this year than he did last year. I didn't like the smirky face after that McAmmond hit. I don't mind rough hits, or fights, but I don't want to see McAmmond miss his chance to lose to the Pens next year. :~)

And whiny? (Geeze, they say Sid the Kid was in his rookie year.) But I spell that G-E-T-Z-L-A-F.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: bobad
Date: 03 Jun 07 - 10:15 AM

I expectthat Pronger will receive at least a one game suspension but should get more as he is a repeat offender.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 03 Jun 07 - 10:34 AM

I think so too. I think they may end his personal Cup run with a multi-game outage. Like they said in the commentary-- he knows's he 6'6," and he has to control the body he has. "I was finishing my check and I dunno what happened after that" is less than taking full responsibility and evincing remorse. They oughtta whack him for the rest of the series, for that attitude.

Then the Ducks can whine about the bad NHL suspension for losing the Cup. Save Duckface.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 03 Jun 07 - 03:04 PM

Ducks' Pronger suspended for one game
NHL.com Jun 3, 2007, 1:52 PM EDT


OTTAWA -- Anaheim Ducks defenseman Chris Pronger has been suspended for Game 4 of the Stanley Cup Final for a blow to the head of Ottawa Senators center Dean McAmmond Saturday night.

The incident occurred at 2:01 of the third period. No penalty was assessed.

"A variety of factors were considered in reaching this decision," said NHL Senior Executive Vice President and Director of Hockey Operations Colin Campbell. "Mr. Pronger used his forearm to deliver a forceful hit to the head of his opponent. Also, his actions caused injury to his opponent."

Pronger also was suspended previously for delivering a blow to the head of Detroit's Tomas Holmstrom in the Western Conference Final.

Pronger will be eligible to return for Game 5, Wednesday at Anaheim.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: gnu
Date: 03 Jun 07 - 04:00 PM

Well, of course he will be allowed to return! It's a Canuck thing. How else would the Sens be able to get a shot at the b*****d??!! Tit for tat. He is a marked man.

Where is John Ferguson (fill in name of your favourite enforcer) when you need him?

Hehehehe.... anyone remember the TV ad John made about the bed sheets with cute flowers on them?


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: Beer
Date: 03 Jun 07 - 05:19 PM

Like the hit on Holmstrom no doubt Pronger will say it was accidental. One game, not enough.
Sure do remember the bed sheet commercial.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: gnu
Date: 03 Jun 07 - 06:42 PM

Yes, Beer! I belly-laughed every time I saw it. What a guy! I recall a TV interview with him where he said he prided himself on never throwing the second punch! We use to call him "The Big Stick."

Gosh... Jean Belliveau, The Rocket, Eddy Shack, Bobby Orr, Gordie Howe, Bobby Hull.... countless names come back to my mind...

Go Sens!


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 03 Jun 07 - 08:27 PM

Never saw the bedsheet ad but thanks for the explanation-- I'll add it to my "Studying Up On Canadia" folder. :~)

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: Beer
Date: 03 Jun 07 - 08:27 PM

Remember the so called great fight expectation that was going to happen between Shack and Fergie? The game took place an if memory serves me right They bumped into each other and when Fergie looked his way and made a move, Eddy took of for the bench. It was a great laugh. When I look back now I see Eddy as being just a great guy that was really just having fun.

Can anyone remember this one:
On Coaches Corner, Don Cherry is shown standing with his arms in the air and egging at the crowd. I remember him doing this in the televised game but can't remember who it was against or what caused the moment.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: gnu
Date: 04 Jun 07 - 07:16 AM

Re the bedsheet ad. I think it was John?? Could it have been Eddy? My memory ain't what it use yo be, I think.

Anyway, Susan, the TV commercial: This big tough hockey player wakes up. The coloured bed sheets have a dainty floral pattern trim. As soon as he opens his eyes, he looks at the flowers and smiles contentedly. Then, he looks at the camera and says something like, "Hey, it means I'm not in the hospital."

Or something like that. My memory ain't what it use yo be.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: gnu
Date: 04 Jun 07 - 07:27 AM

BTW.... I like this site.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: Beer
Date: 04 Jun 07 - 08:33 AM

Gnu.
It was Shack in the bedsheets.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 04 Jun 07 - 09:52 AM

Thanks for the description and the bookmark, gnu.

We really like the cuurent ad campaigns-- the NHL's that shows players off the ice having a lot of fun: "They're just like you and me, plus they're really good at hockey." And the other series, not NHL-sponsored, that shows wannabe's getting taken down a peg or two: "You wouldn't make it in the NHL." Hilarious!

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: GUEST,Texas Guest
Date: 05 Jun 07 - 12:33 AM

Pronger is little more than a "cheap shot" player and his ilk need to be banned from the sport. He doesn't deserve to have his name on a cup - any cup, much less the Stanley Cup. I really, really dislike the Anaheim Sucks. Cheers,...and, GO RED WINGS!


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: gnu
Date: 05 Jun 07 - 06:21 AM

Okay, slight change in plans. Going to seven games will sell more beer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: 3refs
Date: 05 Jun 07 - 03:22 PM

What Alfredsson did, shooting the puck at Niedermayer, is far more dangerous than an elbow to the head.
Agreed, Pronger gets a little mental irregularity periodically and his brain doesn't seem to match his body size! Alfie seems to fly in just under the radar on most nights. Never seems to do anything that the refs catch(because he watches them) or the league feels requires supplemental punishment after revue, but he is a dirty player all the same, and just as dangerous!
I've been at this game for over 45 yrs and refereed for much of those. I'll take an elbow over a puck any day!!!

Go Ducks Go!!!!!

P.S.
as I've stated in the past, a Europian has never captained a Stanley Cup Champ!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: gnu
Date: 06 Jun 07 - 08:08 PM

**** a duck.

Well, this is REAL hockey. Don't get no better. Well, 72, but, that was different. This is for his Lord's cup! The Holy Grey Owl, eh?

This oughta be a gooder, no matter what happens.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 Jun 07 - 08:11 PM

Agreed.

Taping in progress,

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: gnu
Date: 06 Jun 07 - 08:37 PM

Hope you got those crap penalties on tape. Pretty hard to compete wehn it's 8 guys against 5.

Oh, and.... where is the marked man? Well.... he is not on the ice and not on the bench. Last time I saw him, he was on the ice on his knees. Nice hit(s). Tit for tat?


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: gnu
Date: 06 Jun 07 - 09:04 PM

Well.... forget the crap penalties. It is the Duck's game. If they can't even "put the puck on the net" on a power play, all is lost.

If they do pull this one out, I'll be very surprised. Only way they might is if they decide to control the puck on the way in instead of just slapping it into the corner. Or, at least, PUT THE PUCK ON THE NET... gee!


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 Jun 07 - 10:19 PM

Poooooooor Sens...... poooooor Emery.....

Yes, I have it all on tape. Whole series in fact, and a lot from previous rounds.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: GUEST,Texas Guest
Date: 06 Jun 07 - 11:45 PM

Well, glad that's over - what a crock. Nice article today at FOX Sports on Betteman(sp?) and how he really mucked up the NHL.
I didn't get into the politics of what was going down when it happened, but according to this author, G.B. is to blame for the demise of the NHL as it was and as it was headed. No, I am NOT a FOX news person but their sports page is not bad, and, it is another source. Looking forward to the 2008 hockey season and the run for the cup. GO RED WINGS!!! Cheers - from Hockeytown South.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: Mooh
Date: 07 Jun 07 - 06:49 AM

Well, another season well and truly screwed.

Watched much of the last game during an open mic. Both absolutely stunk.

The Leafs in '08!

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2007
From: gnu
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 01:08 PM

Sid The Kid Crosby signs Peguin deal.


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