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Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions

GUEST,New bould 12 Apr 07 - 06:33 AM
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Subject: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: GUEST,New bould
Date: 12 Apr 07 - 06:33 AM

In a music session I play at, people bring pork pies, branston pickle and HP sauce (made in Holland). Whilst most of the pies are jolly good - some exceptionally so, a member of the session has told me that if the pies don't go he will.
I want to keep both the pies and the member. Has any other session experienced similar dissonance? What advice would you suggest?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Betsy
Date: 12 Apr 07 - 07:06 AM

Hiya New Bould,
THAT name of yours means something special related to pork pies in Middlesbrough !!!
For the craic I'll tell ya that about 5 weeks ago at the session I go to in the Dubliners (where else?)on a Tuesday night in Oslo - I took 8 mini pork pies to the session, and handed them out to a mixture of Norwegians and exiles - topped off with a dod of HP sauce,and they were all delighted.
If that person wants to go tell him or her to F### off .
First no smoking ( albeit justified ),next no pies , after that ,no this , no that , and some twat will tell you they are not going to attend if there's alcohol allowed in the session.
As Christy (nearly) sang " Bite on - see you ......."
Cheers,
Betsy


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: GUEST,New bould
Date: 12 Apr 07 - 07:19 AM

Sound advice son. However, mini pork pies are not acceptable in our session, they must be normal size and they must come from a recognised butcher not a supermarket e.g Fords of Glaisdale springs to mind. I'll reflect on your advice. This person also does not like Colemans mustard.
Green Fields


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Apr 07 - 07:31 AM

Blue Skies perhaps...?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Stu
Date: 12 Apr 07 - 07:38 AM

Hmmmm. Keep the pies. Definitely make sure they're not from a supermarket or other crap-food retailing outlet, but from a local source.

What sane person could possibly object to the consumption of porcine-based pastry snacks in a session? On what grounds does he base his objection?

You say you bring your own pies - doesn't the pub you drink in sell pies?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: GUEST,Nicholas Waller
Date: 12 Apr 07 - 07:43 AM

Keep the pies, call his bluff. Has he told the whole group of his desire? And do you know if one or more others will go if the pies go? It would be sad if all that is left is you and the pie-hating miserabilist (while all the others scoff pies in another venue).

What is the objection - the mess, the smell, the sight of people shovelling pork pie into their mouths, an allergy, vegetarianism, religion or the delays caused to the singing?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 12 Apr 07 - 07:45 AM

Pies maketh session!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 12 Apr 07 - 08:17 AM

I once saw Peggy Seeger eat a pork pie in concert, while eEwan was doing Tam Linn or something similar.

Just in case you need to quote precedent.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: ThreeSheds
Date: 12 Apr 07 - 03:25 PM

I refute the suggestion that my bottle of hp contains sauce of a non uk origin, It is a scurrilous rumour dreamt up by that peddler of road kill pasties


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: open mike
Date: 12 Apr 07 - 05:37 PM

i thought you meant a hat.

pork pie hat dot com

hats in the belfry dot com


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: open mike
Date: 12 Apr 07 - 05:45 PM

or http://www.dadshats.com/porkpie3.html


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Betsy
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 02:50 AM

Sorry Three Sheds - It is common knowledge that HP moved the manufacturing base of the sauce to Holland . No doubt we'll get a picture of the Euro Parliament building on the bottle instead of the beloved British House of Parliament.
To New-Bould , try Petch's Pork Pies from Great Ayton.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 03:23 AM

Can the provenance of Petch's pies by proved though, is the recipe new and attributable to a certain butcher? Game pies on the other hand are indigenous and therefore far more 'folk' these modern euro-pies.
25mm wearing course, the true path!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: C-flat
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 04:03 AM

I'm with Betsy on this issue.
If a Petchs' pork pie doesn't sway this ignoramus then there's little hope for him!!
There's another fabulous pie shop in Scarborough (Booths?)which makes a stunning pork pie although you need to be wearing an apron to eat it!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 04:18 AM

♫Who ate all the pies?
Who ate all the pies?
You fat bastard
You fat bastard
You ate all the pies♪♫

Tune :- Knees up Mother Brown.

Football culture; don't you just love it?

Giok ¦¬]


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 04:55 AM

Keep the Pies - you might get Georgie-Porgie as well!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: GUEST,Bruce Michael Baillie
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 05:13 AM

What you need to do is this, get a big Stand Pie, put a neck on it and some strings and play the bugger like a banjo!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: webfolk
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 05:14 AM

A friend of mine was recently told by someone
"don't stand there like a pork pie"
Now I wonder how a pork pie stands.
Incidently, she lives near Melton Mowbray.

Geoff
www.webfolk.net


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: The Villan
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 05:42 AM

At your next session, ask everybody to vote if they want to continue having pork pies or not.

Hopefully the vast majority will vote for the pies.
In which case your misery person will be outvoted and will have to decide on staying or going.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Betsy
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 05:48 AM

Perhaps it's 'cos there's no peas with them. That might change the member's mind.
Any preferenceswith condiments .
I'll go for steeped peas and a drop of mint sauce.Jeez


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: GUEST,Petch
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 06:28 AM

I've been alerted to this thread.
I've been tselling pork pies for a long time and we are quite simply, as Peter suggests, the Bets.
Sounds like you (and the pie man) have a good session - where is it?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 06:40 AM

The session is at The Tiger in Beverley every wednesday night. I have recently got bored with Andys' fake belgian HP, and have started to take along a squeezy bottle of Branston pickle, in an attempt to raise the tone.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: bubblyrat
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 07:56 AM

Ask John Renbourn-----He should know !!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: C-flat
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 08:06 AM

As a result of reading this thread I have been motivated to purchase a pork pie from Blackwells butchers in Norton for my lunch today, and can also thoroughly reccomend them as a source of fine pies!!!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: leeneia
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 08:33 AM

New Bould, you wrote "I want to keep both the pies and the member," so apparently you are the organizer or leader of this session. Am I right?

So here we have a member who wants pork pies banned. Who's going to get the unpleasant job of telling people their offering is not welcome? You. Who's going to get the benefit of this unpleasantness? The member.

Should the effort you make to run the session be rewarded with unnecessary stress and hard feelings? I don't think so.

If I were you, I would ignore the whole thing. If the member says anything further, just say "I've thought it over, and tt's not worth the hassle."

PS You may find that in a few weeks the member has forgotten completely about it. I've seen things like this happen.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: GUEST,Col Beck
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 08:38 AM

Gee thanks for that advice leeneia.
thats exactly what i'm a gonna do.
the only problem is that this guy is into Ham and pease pudden sarnies (Colbecks) and saveloys and wants to 'refine' the session.

Norton - good grief ;-)


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Raggytash
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 08:53 AM

Could this person object to the pork pies on religious grounds, if so you're on a stick wicket these days can't go offending peoples religious intolerences............. Ooops did I realy say that !


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 09:11 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zcm2rSl6-wE


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: GUEST,Yorkie
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 09:15 AM

I have just returned to work after a lunchtime stroll round York. I passed by G. Scotts of Low Petergate and noticed small game pies (£3.10) and large ones (£6.20) - are they really that good?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: The Villan
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 09:16 AM

Raggytash -if the person objects for religious reasons then they don't have to eat it. They can just sit and slobber.
Maybe thats what the problem is. They can't stop slobbering and its affecting the person playing the bagpipes or something like that.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 09:21 AM

G.Scotts are fab! Walk back there and buy a big one!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Raggytash
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 10:43 AM

Villan, that would have been true at one time, however with the ever growing PC brigade watching over us, the fact that we indulge in a peaceful, pleasing and pleasant pastime you may risk offend someone and thus you must desist forthwith. It is onyl matter of time before folk music itself and folk dancing is banned (although there may be some justififcation for the latter)


Only joking dear Morris men and women, I've seen some of those sticks you dance with !!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: C-flat
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 10:44 AM

Yeah!! And post it to me!!!!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Betsy
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 10:58 AM

I never REALLY got away with Game Pie .
I don't know - apart from being expensive,or whether I don't like to see the different meats together.
At least with a pork pie, although I understand there might be some strange bits go in them, its all mashed up, and as Diz Dizley used to say ,(about almost anything, not particularly pork pies ) , it may be shite , but it's British Shite.
Great !


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Folkiedave
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 12:00 PM

I am interested in this pub where the landlord allows you to take your own food in.

Can you take your own booze as well?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Jeremiah McCaw
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 01:27 PM

Thanks for your (as we would say over here) 2 cents worth, Petch. If I'm ever lucky enough to get 'across the pond' for a visit, I shall certainly make it a point to seek out one of your pork pies. Not to mention the session in Beverly. Not to mention Villan's sessions, and all the acquaintances I've made thanks to the 'Cat'!


from Brantford (Ontario, Canada)


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: The Villan
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 02:25 PM

When you come over Jeremiah, can you bring the McGarrigle Sisters with you. That would be a great coup for Faldingworth Live. Better get saving :-)


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Soldier boy
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 03:33 PM

Pork pies are fantastic. They are a meal in a wheel and have sustained me through many a session.

The ones with lots of jelly are the best. The jelly lubricates the old vocal chords and I've even seen a veteran fiddle player rub the jelly into his battered old fiddle to increase the lustre and bring out the patina of the wood. Marvelous stuff in pork pies!

I can't understand why said person should object to the presence of pork pies and branston pickle and HP sauce etc unless it is on the grounds of the horrific mess it all makes.
I presume,New bould, that you maintain an orderly eating environment and clean up after yourselves.
But if not it can be a disaster zone and you can find bits of pork pie attached to musical instruments, cases, song books and plectrums etc etc many weeks later.
I would call his bluff if I was you and you will probably find that it was all a 'porky pie' anyway and he has no intention of leaving!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Bernard
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 04:43 PM

If I've read the opening post correctly, this person is objecting to something that people bring along, not something that is provided by the venue (for 'venue' read 'place where the session is held'!).

It seems to me the only people entitled to complain are the owner/tenant/manager of the venue or their agents. If they are agreeable to the arrangement, and only one attendee of the session sees fit to complain, then that person is possibly being unreasonable.

It would NOT be unreasonable if the behaviour of the others was unlawful, anti-social, or calculated to disrupt the session, but pork pies seem harmless enough...!

Okay, if, for example, the venue were a synagogue or other Jewish establishment, maybe the complainant's objection could be sustainable.

What are they hoping to gain, or fearful of losing?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Scoville
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 04:56 PM

Are they eating pies or using them as ammunition? Is this person not allowed to bring his own pies (chicken, beef, vegetable, whatever)?

Seriously, unless it's a Jewish or Muslim establishment, what's the problem? Even my vegetarian sister-in-law doesn't complain when my brother orders ribs . . .


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: GUEST,tolerance
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 10:42 PM

Very good post Soldier Boy ! Pork pies are indeed fantastic.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 12:50 AM

I must state now that I am not a pork pie eater. I just don't like the things. Neither am I fan of HP sauce. Branston pickle, I like.

You must look at the pros and cons of the situation before you make snap decisions over the removal of pies/members.

1) Does the manager/landlord allow you to eat your own food on the premises?

2) Do you clear up after yourselves?

3) Do you offer the pies around to any spectators?

4) Are you recieving any monetary reimbursement or 'kickbacks' for advertising the said pies and sauces?

5) Do you really want to be known for prefering a pork pie over a (presumably) talented musician?

6) Have you sat down with the aggrieved party and discussed why s/he doesn't want the pies?

7) Is it a mixed session? - do you have singers who are likely to shower spectators with partially masticated pie products during a chorus?

8) Should this really have a folklore prefix and be in the music section? No-one has, as yet, proffered a pie related song or tune (Les Barker wrote 'Hollands meat pies', a parody of 'Ebony Eyes' but somehow that isn't really enough...)

I can give you the address for ACAS if you feel the need, although any good Union Rep worth their salt will be happy to sit in impartially on any meeting you and the anti-pie chap may have.

LTS


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: The Villan
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 02:32 AM

Porcupine Pie - Neil Diamond
American Pie - Don McLean
Goodbye Pork Pie Hat - Jansch & Renbourn

Band called Humble Pie


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Sooz
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 03:26 AM

We had chip butties at our folk club last night - no-one complained!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Soldier boy
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 08:14 AM

Someone call the RSPPP!!!
I'll let others suggest the full title.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 08:18 AM

Is that an organisation for the prevention of pork pies or were you trying to blow a raspberry (Billy Connolly song - I'd write you a letter but I can't spell thrrsssssppppppppp!)

LTS


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Betsy
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 08:22 AM

Villain - Shame on you - How could you forget Hedgehog Pie ?????- what a collection of Musicians THAT was


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Soldier boy
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 09:22 AM

Sorry Liz the Squeak, no I wasn't blowing a raspberry and I was thinking of 'The RoyalSociety for the Protection (or Preservation)of Pork Pies'- definately not 'Pevention'!
Afterall, they could become an endangered species if some awkward numptys refuse to sing/play in their presence


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: GUEST,Nicholas Waller
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 12:14 PM

Lemon Pie - Strawbs
Honey Pie - Beatles
Pie Jesu - Faure and several others
Can't Pie Me Love - Beatles


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: ThreeSheds
Date: 14 Apr 07 - 06:11 PM

Pork Life- Blur
You lost that loving filling-Walker bros


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 06:59 AM

Attention Tiger sessioneers:- Wednesdays GAME PIE has been procured from A.Littles of Hedon. Be there or be square!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 08:35 AM

I'll get pie with a little help...

I think the 'stand there like a pork pie' is half a saying. The full one is in reference to someone with nothing to do -

"Stood there like a pork pie at a Jewish wedding."

D.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: English Jon
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 08:49 AM

You've been had folks. This isn't about whether or not one person wants to reamin at a session - IT'S A SHAMELESS ATTEMPT TO GET US ALL TO COME!!!!!

The lure of the pie.....mmmmmm

Cheers,
Jon

Bill Topping and sons of Doncaster...by royal appointment.

The only decent thing about this benighted town, IMHO.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 10:06 AM

Oh Dear poor English Jon
The highlight of the session is apparently an old gadgy who plays flamingos.
Check this thread
http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=100821&messages=4
or BS: the true path


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: ThreeSheds
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 10:13 AM

Oh dear oh dear how wrong can you be its an instrumental session so if everyones got a gob full of growler noone sings ,simple innit!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 10:27 AM

Now that my beloved has shown me how our DVD camera works, I could lovingly film wednesdays pies at The Tiger and stick em up on youtube. Fancy that?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 12:22 PM

Eeuuuuoowwwwwwwww!!

Flutes and pie crumbs...


Eeeeeeeeeeeuuuuooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!

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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Anglogeezer
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 03:17 PM

A Pork Pie at the TIGER in living colour?!?!
Go for it Paco!!
There'll surely be an OSCAR in it for best wildlife documentry!!
Jake


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 04:29 AM

Its a bugger when one cant eat a pie in the privacy of the pub snug


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 03:30 PM

If you had to choose the ultimate pork pie for a session - where would you get it?

Keith Poynter of Heanor in Derbyshire was the best pork pie and sausage maker I ever knew. But he's retired.

Theres a shop in Bakewell opposite the newsagent that's quite good. Not in Keith's class, but pretty decent.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Soldier boy
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 09:10 PM

Butchers are already sharpening their knives and drooling in antisipation over the way this thread is changing.
Best Pork Pie Contest anyone?
Sorry, being flippant, let's try and stick to the original opening thread.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 09:34 PM

All I'm saying if you're taking a pie into a session - risking censure from those who don't like to disturb the aura of culture and the sepulchral tone of traditional folksong - have a good pie!

My preference is always for one with little chunks of meat - rather than a smooth textured filling. Also a good thick shiny brown crust that has a gravy type seasoning and some evidence of the oven is nice - perhaps a little blackened burnt bit on the top.

There is no point in risking the ire of the crowd, and then having an unsatifactory pie experience.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Betsy
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 03:13 AM

Surely "Simple Simon" the Pie man , is British tradition.
Ergo, meat Pies are British Tradition.
So whether it's Pork or another kind of meat - the Pie is King, although,we must not forget to praise it's cousin - the Pasty.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 03:18 AM

My DVD camera is all primed up and ready to go, (Penny did it, I can't) so stand by for a short film of tonights pies on youtube tomorrow. I will attempt to do a link to it from this thread.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: GUEST,ES&L
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 04:55 AM

Betsy
Simple Simon *met* a pieman (going to the fair)
Ergo, Simon was not the pieman.
ES&L

post scriptum: "it" in the possessive does *not* take an apostophe.

Pedantry, alive and kicking.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: GUEST,New bould
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 10:52 AM

He does come from South Bank son - not Linthorpe!

Having said that there is nothing in the tale to say that Simon was not also a pieman.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Soldier boy
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 11:02 AM

Point taken weelittle drummer.
Your description of your preferred pie fits my taste precisely but give me lots of jelly as well.
Oh gawd me juices are salivating at the prospect - I'm just gonna have to dash out and get meself one of them juicy buggers from Jones the butcher!!

By the way weelittle drummer I also play a drum (a snare drum) with a morris band. Are we related?

Here's a good tip for you my fellow little drummer.

To prevent drumsticks from slipping out of your hands and skewering the audience on a hot sweaty day simply rub some pork pie jelly onto your hands and the miraculous adhesive properties of the jelly prevents said calamity from ever occuring .

Marvellous things pork pies!!
Lots of uses!!

Bugger!! I've started on Jones's Pork pie and me finger's got stuck on the full stop ......button.....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Betsy
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 11:02 AM

Hello ES & L , pedantic – perhaps another word when you finish reading this .
Maybe I should have written "as in" the Pie Man.
I was saving my typing finger. (Notice in the singular)
Simple Simon is also a childrens game, a crap song and whatever else.
That fact he met a Pie man entitles me to use "ergo" to make the assertion (which I did),that, meat Pies by forming part of this extremely old rhyme, are British Tradition and not as you deduced that he was a Pie man.
Further, I have been using the English language for almost 60 years now, and your Post script is a load of bollocks – learn to read and understand it .
I did not use "it's" in the possessive, it would be quiet clear to an ill-educated penguin to see that "it's" is used as an abbreviation for "it is", and therefore, the apostrophe is used correctly.
I and most others on Mudcat tolerate typing and other grammar mistakes - shit happens . You should learn to do the same.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: GUEST,ES&L
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 12:12 PM

Betsy my dear,
Using the language for almost 60 years, eh?
Sorry but you DID use "it" in the possessive - it should have been "quiet" (sic) obvious to an ill-educated penguin that I was referring to later in the same line ".....praise it's cousin....".

Oh, and "children" in the possessive (line 4) takes an apostophe...
....and "postscript" is one word
....and.....

Best wishes
ES&L

p.s. maybe I need to use one of those "smiley" things when I post next time; detecting tongue-in-cheek posts is apparently not the forte of some :-)


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 01:23 PM

girls girls girls :-)


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 01:47 PM

In truth I can take or leave the jelly.

Evenings at folk clubs (as we all know) can be of variable quality. All kinds of odd buggers turn up and want to sing.

However the prospect of a nibble at your pie, as recruited collier bolts from a future of domestic bliss with a Kate Rusby soundalike, or as the cabin boy gets his tool out on the Golden Vanity - well it won't be a completely wasted evening as the prison ship lies waiting in the bay, and you wish the young bugger had kept his hands off Trevelyan's corn.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Snuffy
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 04:06 AM

You correctly point out: "it" in the possessive does *not* take an apostophe.

It doesn't take an apostrophe either. :-)


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: GUEST,ES&L
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 05:02 AM

Excellent, Snuffy - it's (sic) a fair cop - I like the cut of your jib! :-)


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: GUEST,geoff wright
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 06:23 AM

Try the sessions at the Royal Hotel @ Dungworth. They are famous for their non-pork pies, home-made, of enormous proportions. Just the job before a hard evening of playing.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: leeneia
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 10:00 AM

"I and most others on Mudcat tolerate typing and other grammar mistakes - shit happens . You should learn to do the same."

Betsy, you are so right. Even I make mistakes.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: ThreeSheds
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 05:48 PM

What a name Dungworth, what is caking night, sorry to hear about the daffs, have they gone in to your non pork pies


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: ThreeSheds
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 06:07 PM

Ignore the bit about daffs, Having never heard of Dungworth I did a quick google and saw a ref to caking night, and an article about a villages daffs display being vandalised, I assumed that the village was Dungworth,I was wrong the story quoted a resident called Dungworth


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: GUEST,Forest of Dean
Date: 22 Feb 17 - 03:57 AM

Sadly it seems pies are back in the news again, a betting scam in UK sport.
Soccer this time not cycling for a chance.

https://uk.yahoo.com/sports/news/pie-eating-sutton-player-faces-double-inquiry-140301811--sow.html


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Jack Campin
Date: 22 Feb 17 - 05:52 AM

Newtongrange Accordion and Fiddle Club (last Monday of the month) includes a locally made hot Scotch mutton pie in the ticket price.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: EBarnacle
Date: 22 Feb 17 - 05:46 PM

How do two porky pies make love?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: EBarnacle
Date: 22 Feb 17 - 05:46 PM

With great care.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 Feb 17 - 08:54 PM

Is somebody supposed to respond to that, EBarnacle???   ;-)



How 'bout a well-executed groan?

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: GUEST,Mathew
Date: 22 Feb 17 - 09:07 PM

I apologize for my ignorance but is it specific to pies being an issue or is it food in general?

Banning pork pies seems oddly specific


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: EBarnacle
Date: 22 Feb 17 - 09:13 PM

Thank you, Joe.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Mr Red
Date: 23 Feb 17 - 03:09 AM

It's groans you want eh? Musical ones even!

Well - where would you weigh a pie?

All together now...............

Some where over the rainbow, weigh a ............................





I'll get my coat - you can keep the mustard - bah!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 23 Feb 17 - 07:36 AM

Mr Red:
I thought it was:
"If you weigh whales in a wailway station, where would you weigh a pie?"
Same punchline though . . .


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Joe Offer
Date: 23 Feb 17 - 03:54 PM

I keep wonder, what's a pork pie? Is it like a U.S. chicken pot pie (chicken, gravy, vegetables but with pork), or maybe a pork pasty?
And what's it got to do with a Pork Pie Hat?

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 23 Feb 17 - 05:05 PM

we have English Pork pies here too, Joe, but we have not imported the custom of having them at sessions. They are very yummy, tho I've never had it with pickles/condiments

Pork pie hat -


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 24 Feb 17 - 04:36 AM

Not a fan of pies myself: a couple of pub sessions I go to provide sandwiches and other snacks at half-time: all very welcome, a gift from the pub management.
A 10-year old thread, so wondering if they ever resolved the original dilemma?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 24 Feb 17 - 04:53 AM

Here you go, Joe

Pork Pies

I suspect the hat is so called because its shape resembles said comestible.

Be wary of them when you are over here though. I have learned in the last 4 years that the best pork pies come from Yorkshire and are eaten with mushy peas and mint sauce. Melton Mowbrey provide a poor copy and the most of the supermarket offering are just unspeakable mutations.

To defend my native Lancashire though I must say that they have never even heard of that rare delicacy, the meat pie. And the things they label potato and meat pies are a travesty compared to the food of the Gods sold by Colin Titley in Swinton :-)

Cheers

DtG


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 24 Feb 17 - 03:17 PM

you must remember this...a pie is just a pie...

the best pie experience i had in Lancashire was my Aunty Eileen (St Helens/Irish) making potato cakes.

i asked my mum to have a go at making them....but it weren't reet.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: EBarnacle
Date: 25 Feb 17 - 12:37 AM

Try looking up a potato latke recipe. Properly done, they are delectable. Overcooked, they are like hockey pucks.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: JHW
Date: 25 Feb 17 - 07:02 AM

From: John MacKenzie - PM
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 04:18 AM

♫Who ate all the pies?
Who ate all the pies?
You fat bastard
You fat bastard
You ate all the pies♪♫

Tune :- Knees up Mother Brown.
Football culture; don't you just love it?

cf own goal


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: Anglogeezer
Date: 25 Feb 17 - 08:57 AM

Some interesting answers ..... BUT did no-one stop to think it all just a leg-pull??

Sort of PIE IN THE SKY!

J


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: GUEST,Ripov
Date: 25 Feb 17 - 04:06 PM

You mean - somebody might have been telling porkies?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Pork Pies in Sessions
From: EBarnacle
Date: 26 Feb 17 - 12:11 AM

Ol' Porkypine was Pogo's friend.


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