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Lyr Req: Santy Anno / Santy Ano / Santy Anna

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GENERAL TAYLOR
ROUND THE BAY OF MEXICO
SANTIANA
SANTY ANNA
SANTY ANNA (2)


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Mark Austin 02 Apr 99 - 03:30 AM
Roger in Baltimore 02 Apr 99 - 06:23 AM
Barry Finn 02 Apr 99 - 11:48 AM
Scotty 02 Apr 99 - 04:04 PM
Matthew Bram 02 Apr 99 - 06:38 PM
dulcimer 02 Apr 99 - 07:13 PM
Harry O 02 Apr 99 - 08:09 PM
Rasta 03 Apr 99 - 12:57 AM
Lesley N. 03 Apr 99 - 09:24 AM
Scombat 03 Apr 99 - 09:27 AM
Roger in Baltimore 03 Apr 99 - 10:35 AM
03 Apr 99 - 10:35 AM
Matthew Bram 04 Apr 99 - 10:37 AM
Mark Roffe 04 Apr 99 - 01:29 PM
rich r 04 Apr 99 - 11:55 PM
Arkie 05 Apr 99 - 11:07 AM
Helen 05 Apr 99 - 06:44 PM
Joe Offer 05 Apr 99 - 08:18 PM
Helen 05 Apr 99 - 11:40 PM
Jon W. 07 Apr 99 - 01:32 PM
Scombat 07 Apr 99 - 04:35 PM
Joe Offer 08 Apr 99 - 04:26 PM
Cuilionn 09 Apr 99 - 10:37 AM
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GUEST,Mrs. Capt. Jack Sparrow 23 Sep 06 - 01:40 AM
Bernard 23 Sep 06 - 04:49 PM
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Subject: Looking for the lyrics to Santy Anno
From: Mark Austin
Date: 02 Apr 99 - 03:30 AM

The message says it all really. I'm looking for the lyrics to Santy Anno as found on the John Stewart/Darwins Army CD. Please email me on mmaustin@dial.pipex.com

Cheers

Mark


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Subject: RE: Looking for the lyrics to Santy Anno
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 02 Apr 99 - 06:23 AM

Mark,

Do you have some snippets of verses or chorus. A couple of Santy Anno's come to mind and I don't have that John Stewart recording.

Roger in Baltimore


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Subject: RE: Looking for the lyrics to Santy Anno
From: Barry Finn
Date: 02 Apr 99 - 11:48 AM

Try the DT. Enter [ plains of Mexico ] into the search box & you'll come up with 3 versions. Barry


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Subject: RE: Looking for the lyrics to Santy Anno
From: Scotty
Date: 02 Apr 99 - 04:04 PM

Has anyone heard the snippit of Santy Anno on the Encarta'98 encyclopedia? My neice was doing a report on sea shanties an came across an awesome sample of this tune ...Does anyone know who performed it?? See Ya', Scotty...


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Subject: RE: Looking for the lyrics to Santy Anno
From: Matthew Bram
Date: 02 Apr 99 - 06:38 PM

I have lyrics to about a half dozen completely different versions of Santy Anno. Have you chacked the databse?

Just for fun, here's an extract from a footnote I wrote about Santy Anno in my book:

According to The Book of Lists, General Antonio Lopez De Santa Anna (1795?-1876) was one of the 5 worst generals in military history. In the Mexican-American War alone (1846-1848), he lost every battle he ever fought! Early in his career, Sam Houston's men caught him in his underwear, trying to escape from the bed of a woman while his troops were being decimated by an attack that came during their siesta!! A dozen years later, he fled a losing battle in the Mexican American War so quickly that he left behind his famous wooden leg, which the Americans found. Soon, folks all over America were wearing little wooden-leg pins on their lapels to "honor" this event. However, this ignoble ending has not stopped us from totally reversing history for the sake of a good sea shanty. In this version, Santy beats Taylor. After all, his name is so much more musical, that he deserves the glory for that reason alone.


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Subject: Lyr Add: SANTY ANNO (from Woods Tea Co.)
From: dulcimer
Date: 02 Apr 99 - 07:13 PM

Here is a version I got off a tape by Woods Tea Co., put out back in the early '80. I have seen fuller versions and ones that refer to the Mexican War and give the title meaning. This is about a 2 1/2-minute version for popular consumption.

We're sailing cross the River from Liverpool
Weigh hey Santy Anno
Sailing round Cape Horn to the Frisco Bay
Way out in Cal-i-forn-i-o

Chorus
So heave her up and away we'll go
Weigh hey Santy Anno
Heave her up and away we'll go
Way out in Cal-i-forn-i-o

Back in the days of the 49
Weigh hey...
Back in the days of the good old time
Way out...

There's plenty of gold so I've been told
Weigh hey...
Plenty of gold so I've been told
Way out...

She's a fast clipper ship and a wholly good crew
Weigh hey...
A down east Yankee for a captain too
Way out....


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Subject: RE: Looking for the lyrics to Santy Anno
From: Harry O
Date: 02 Apr 99 - 08:09 PM

Santiana - various spellings. A windlass shanty. One of three work-songs roped in bt whalemen to lighten their pulley hauling. The other two songs popular aboard the whalers were the halyard shanty "Ranzo" and the general-purpose shanty "We'll Ranzo Way". Strangely enough the whaling men don't sem to have produced any shanties of their own. For lyrics see "Shanties and Sailors' Songs" Stan Gugill, London 1969 Hope this is of help. Harry O


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Subject: RE: Looking for the lyrics to Santy Anno
From: Rasta
Date: 03 Apr 99 - 12:57 AM

Also-Santy Anno was recorded by --I know ancient history (the kingston trio) on one of their earlyl albums with the late great Dave Guard.---Im not sure weather Dylan did a cut of this song and if he hasent its bound to be on one of his next off beat projects.---rumor has it the Spice Girls may cut it soon.-----In some way the song reminds me of a tune I learned from a Judy Collins alblum --song was called (Bulgine Run) or Black Ball line ---Peace--- Rasta


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Subject: RE: Looking for the lyrics to Santy Anno
From: Lesley N.
Date: 03 Apr 99 - 09:24 AM

Another historical aside - Stan Hugill speculates that the tune does not concern the Mexican General Santa Anna, but Sainte Anne, patron saint of Breton seamen.


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Subject: RE: Looking for the lyrics to Santy Anno
From: Scombat
Date: 03 Apr 99 - 09:27 AM

Odetta did this song as well...also a blues version by a guy with the middle name of "Spider"!


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Subject: RE: Looking for the lyrics to Santy Anno
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 03 Apr 99 - 10:35 AM

Scombat,

I suspect that was "Spider" John Koerner. He had heart bypass surgery last year and is reportedly recovering well.

Roger in Baltimore


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Subject: RE: Looking for the lyrics to Santy Anno
From:
Date: 03 Apr 99 - 10:35 AM

Hey Rasta let's watch it with that "ancient history" stuff. Those of us sensitive types who lived it prefer the more accurate appelation of "golden age". That term works well in the comic book industry to describe those that cost a dime new. I guess when your music is ancient history, mine will be primordial...they'll need a Rosetta Stone to decipher it.--John


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Subject: RE: Looking for the lyrics to Santy Anno
From: Matthew Bram
Date: 04 Apr 99 - 10:37 AM

I just heard a female pirate version of Santy Anno, which starts something like this:


The navy won't take a lass at sea
Heave away, Santianno

And so I turned to piracy
All off the coast of Mexico


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Subject: RE: Looking for the lyrics to Santy Anno
From: Mark Roffe
Date: 04 Apr 99 - 01:29 PM

I heard Tony Sandler and Ralph Young ("Sandler & Young") sing pretty much the version that dulcimer wrote earlier in this thread. That was at a concert at American U. in D.C. in 1966.


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Subject: Lyr Add: SANTY ANNO
From: rich r
Date: 04 Apr 99 - 11:55 PM

There's no need to reverse history just for the sake of a good song. All three versions in the DT are historically hysterical. Some believe that these verses were actually composed by British seamen to taunt their American counterparts with whom they had lively competition. There are some legitimate American versions also that more acurately reflect historical truth.

We're sailing down the river from Liverpool, (alt. From Boston town we're bound away)
Heave away, Santy Anno
Around Cape Horn to Frisco Bay
All on the plains of Mexico.

CH: So heave her up and away we'll go,
Heave away, Santy Anno;
Heave her up and away we'll go
All on the plains of Mexico.

She's a fast clipper ship and a bully good crew....
A down-east Yankee for her captain, too.....

There's plenty of gold so I've been told.....
There's plenty of gold so I've been told...

Back in the days of Forty-nine....
Those are the days of the good old times....

When Zachary Taylor gained the day....
He made poor Santy run away....

General Scott and Taylor, too....
Made poor Santy meet his Waterloo....

When I leave this ship, I will settle down....
And marry a girl named Sally Brown....

Santy Anno was a good old man....
Till he got into war with your Uncle Sam....

Bob Dylan has recorded "Days of 49"

rich r


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Subject: Lyr Add: SANTY ANNA
From: Arkie
Date: 05 Apr 99 - 11:07 AM

A couple of other verses not mentioned above:

Oh have you heard the latest news
Heave away, Santy Anna
The Yankees they took Vera Cruz
All on the plains of Mexico

Santy Anna had a wooden leg
Heave away, Santy Anna
Used it for a whiskey keg
All on the plains of Mexico


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Subject: RE: Looking for the lyrics to Santy Anno
From: Helen
Date: 05 Apr 99 - 06:44 PM

Hi all,

When I read the name of this thread I started *hearing* in my head the song sung by Donovan in the 60's or 70's.

The words of one part were something like:

"Hey, Santiana, they're killing your soldiers below..(something, something)...So the rest of Texas will know, and remember the Alamo"

I've got the album (vinyl) somewhere so I could hunt out the words - I don't think it is the same as the songs I found doing a DT search using the word "Alamo".

But I guess this song thread is about a ship.

[The problem with being a Mudcateer is that every time I read a thread name about a certain song I keep walking around for days hearing the lines I do remember (which is usually only a snippet) over and over and over.]

Helen


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Subject: RE: Looking for the lyrics to Santy Anno
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Apr 99 - 08:18 PM

Hi, Helen - I didn't believe you that Donovan recorded a song about the Alamo, so I looked it up at Folk Music An Index to Recorded Resources. Sure enough, Donovan did "Remember the Alamo," which I guess is the same song by Jane Bowers that was recorded by the Kingston Trio.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Looking for the lyrics to Santy Anno
From: Helen
Date: 05 Apr 99 - 11:40 PM

Joe,

I'm shocked, just absolutely flabbergasted, that you didn't believe me **grin**

Helen


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Subject: Lyr Add: SANTY ANNO (from Hank Kramer)
From: Jon W.
Date: 07 Apr 99 - 01:32 PM

Here is a version I recorded off the radio a few months ago. If anyone has any more information on this artist or his recordings, I would appreciate it. It is a rough, traditional, unaccompanied, full and lusty voiced version.

SANTY ANNO
As sung by Hank Kramer (sp?)

Santyanno gained the day
Away, Santyanno
Oh, Santyanno gained the day
All on the plains of Mexico

Chorus (repeat after each verse):
Mexico, oh Mexico
Away...
Ah, Mexico is a place I know
All on...

Nassau girls ain't got no combs
They comb their hair with a kipper back bone

Them yellow-skinned girls I do adore
With their shining eyes and their coal-black hair

Why do them yellow gals love me so?
Because I don't tell 'em all I know.

When I was young and in my prime,
I'd knock them scouse girls two at a time

Skipper likes whiskey, the mate likes rum
The crew loves both but we can't get none.

Times is hard and the wages low
It's time for us to roll and go

(repeat first verse, then chorus twice)


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Subject: RE: Looking for the lyrics to Santy Anno
From: Scombat
Date: 07 Apr 99 - 04:35 PM

Awesome!! This may be the version on Encarta '98 that I've been curious about (it's uncredited on it)...well, the first couple verses are the same at least...See Ya', Scombat


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Subject: RE: Looking for the lyrics to Santy Anno
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 Apr 99 - 04:26 PM

Scotty/scombat - the caption on the "Santy Anno" recording on Encarta says it's from a 1989 album called "Victory Sings at Sea." I think this link will get you to a list of songs on the CD. Unfortunately, the CD is no longer available, or "in print" or whatever it is they call CD's that aren't available for sale any more. That cut sure is a good recording, isn't it?
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Looking for the lyrics to Santy Anno
From: Cuilionn
Date: 09 Apr 99 - 10:37 AM

I dinnae hae a current address for the Victory Music Co-op, (usit tae be a card-carryin' an' payin' member, back when I cuid afford charity tae onyane ither than masel') but ilka recordin' they've done is pure deid brilliant. They're based in Washington State, an' dae a wide range o' educational projects an' community musical wairk. I ken they've dane mair than ane album o' sea sangs. There's a mair recent ane that may be in print, but--Guid Grief--ma mind is gang blank due tae th' stress o' ma scholarly wairk. I haed nae idea that Encarta had captured a snippet o' th' Victory Co-op's wairk. I wish the Co-op haed a muckle wider audience for th' fine wairk they dae...as a seminary scholar, I'll gie them ma vote for "best religious organization," since th' mere thocht o' their musical offerins maks me feel, weel, religious!!!

--Cuilionn


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Subject: RE: Looking for the lyrics to Santy Anno
From: Scombat
Date: 09 Apr 99 - 04:24 PM

Thanks Joe...that snippet on Encarta is such a tease!..I sometimes find myself just listening to the sixty-second sample over & over & over & over &.........


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Subject: RE: Looking for the lyrics to Santy Anno
From: Joe Offer
Date: 09 Apr 99 - 04:48 PM

Cuilionn, this sounds interesting. Can you (or anybody) give us more invormation about Victory? Maybe we can find it on the Web, and maybe we can track down some copies of the CD.
All I found was victoryrecords.com, which is punk and ska and hardcore music.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Santy Anno / Santy Ano / Santy Anna
From: GUEST,Mrs. Capt. Jack Sparrow
Date: 23 Sep 06 - 01:40 AM

Actually the spelling is not Santy Anno, it's spelled Santianno. (I'm a stickler for spelling accuracy.)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Santy Anno / Santy Ano / Santy Anna
From: Bernard
Date: 23 Sep 06 - 04:49 PM

Only seven years late...!! ;o)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Santy Anno / Santy Ano / Santy Anna
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 25 Sep 06 - 10:13 PM

Allmusic.com lists:
18 recordings called SANTY ANNO
14 recordings called SANTIANO
1 recording called SANTY ANNY-O
1 recording called SANTY ANNA
1 recording called AWEIGH, SANTY ANO

Here's a Wikipedia article about Antonio López de Santa Anna.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Santy Anno / Santy Ano / Santy Anna
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Sep 06 - 10:57 PM

O! Santianna fought for fame!
Away Santianna!
And Santianna gained a name
All on the plains of Mexico!
Mexico, Mexico,
Away Santianno!

Mexico is a place I know!
All on the plains of Mexico!
O! Santianna had a wooden leg
Heave away, Santianna!
He used it for a cribbage peg
All on the plains of Mexico!

Chorus:

Heave her up, and away we'll go
Heave away, Santianna!
Heave her up, and away we'll go
All on the plains of Mexico'''

O! Santianna fought for his gold
Heave away, Santianna!
The deeds he did have oft been told
All on the plains of Mexico

Chorus
O! Santianna gain'd the day,
Heave away, Santianna!
He gain'd the day at Molly-Del-Rey*.
All on the plains of Mexico

Chorus

He won the day at Molly-Del-Rey,
Heave away, Santianna!
And General Taylor he ran away.
All on the plains of Mexico
Chorus


O! Santianna fought for his life,
Heave away, Santianna!
He gained his way in the terrible strife.
All on the plains of Mexico
Chorus

O! Santianna's men were brave,
Heave away, Santianna!
Many found a hero's grave.
All on the plains of Mexico!

Chorus

O! Santianna's day is o'er,
Heave away, Santianna!
Santianna will fight no more.
All on the plains of Mexico!

Chorus

O! Santianna's day is gorn,
Heave away, Santianna!
We left him buried off Cape Horn.
All on the plains of Mexico!

Chorus

We dug his grave with a golden spade,
Heave away, Santianna!
And marked the spot where he was laid.
All on the plains of Mexico


From wikipedia.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Santy Anno / Santy Ano / Santy Anna
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Sep 06 - 11:02 PM

Cape Cod Girls


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Santy Anno / Santy Ano / Santy Anna
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 01:26 PM

"Spelling accuracy" is a pretty bizarre concept when it comes to sea shanties, which were about as oral a tradition as you could possiobly had.

"Excuse me Mr Shantyman, how do you spell that?"


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Santy Anno / Santy Ano / Santy Anna
From: Snuffy
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 07:15 PM

Shantyman ... er, no ...
Shanteyman ... er, no ...
Chanteyman ... er, no ...
Chantyman ... er, no ...
Schantieman ... er, no ...
Shanty Man ... er, no ...
Chauntey man ....

(to be continued in our next issue)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Santy Anno / Santy Ano / Santy Anna
From: Lighter
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 07:17 PM

Snuffy, how about "shandy-man" ?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Santy Anno / Santy Ano / Santy Anna
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 07:21 PM

Then there'd the the Full Monty version, Scanty Man.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Santy Anno / Santy Ano / Santy Anna
From: GUEST,Jim
Date: 27 Sep 06 - 02:47 PM

I read years ago in a "Ripley's Believe It or Not!" that Santa Anna eventually emigrated to the United States, where he imported Chickle from Mexico and introduced chewing gum, previously unknown here. I don't care if its true or not, it sounds great, so I believe it. (Would Ripley lie?)

Anyway, stickler for historical accuracy that I am, I usually sing the usual verses, but always add somewhere in the song:

'Twas General Taylor gained the day
Heave away . . .
Poor Santianno, he ran away
All on the plains . . .


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Santy Anno / Santy Ano / Santy Anna
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 27 Sep 06 - 04:53 PM

Mostly true, Guest Jim.
Santa Anna, during one of his exiles, stayed with Thomas Adams at his Staten Island home. Adams had failed in several endeavors, and was a photographer at the time (1860's). Whether Adams was already experimenting with chicle, I don't know, but Santa Anna suggested some possible uses for the chicle (gum) from the sapodilla tree. Adams failed with bicycle tires, boots and toys. Santa Anna had provided quantities of the material.
In 1861, Adams opened a little factory to make chewing gum from the chicle, and (cliché) the rest is history.

Santa Anna was the son of a man who dealt in real estate and mortgages, and seemingly was hopeless as a prospect for business, so he was entered into military school. He was charismatic, and soon rose to command. Interspersed with spells in the military, he was successful in politics, being elected president six times. He was hopeless as an administrator (and a victim of poor judgement in war), and suffered periods of exile, which he endured in Cuba, Jamaica, and the United States.
During the French occupation, Santa Anna, fighting against them, lost a leg, but this didn't stop his adventures in politics, the Mexican War, etc. His last exile ended in 1874, and he returned to Mexico, dying in 1876 at the age of 82.

Most of the above is out of my head, but I think more accurate information is posted in other threads.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Santy Anno / Santy Ano / Santy Anna
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 27 Sep 06 - 05:02 PM

The story of Thomas Adams and his chewing gum is mostly from here:
http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/bladams.htm

If Santa Anna had gone into business with Adams, and actually emigrated to the States, he also would have become rich, but he died poor.


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Subject: Lyr. Add: Sandy Anna
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 14 May 07 - 10:24 PM

From the Georgia Sea Islands:

Lyr. Add: SANDY ANNA

Seaman, what's the madda?
Hoo-ray 'o'ray
Seaman, what's the madda?
Hooray, Sandy Anna.

Seaman stole my dolla'
Hooray 'o'ray
He stole it in Savannah
Hooray, Sandy Anna.

He spend it in Havana
Hooray 'o'ray
I caught 'im in his colla'
Hooray, Sandy Anna.

I skake 'im till he holla'
Hooray 'o'ray
Seaman stole my dolla'
Hooray, Sandy Anna.

No. 49, With score, for lead tenor and basses.
Lydia Parrish, 1969, 1992, "Slave Songs of the Georgia Sea Islands," pp. 206-207. Brown Thrasher Books, The University of Georgia Press.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Santy Anno / Santy Ano / Santy Anna
From: VIN
Date: 15 May 07 - 08:39 AM

Reading this thread reminds me of an LP of sea shanties i had years ago by Colin Wilkie and Shirley Hart with this song on it. Anyone know anything about or what became of Colin and Shirley?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Santy Anno / Santy Ano / Santy Anna
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Feb 11 - 07:33 AM

THEY MOVED TO GERMANY


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Santy Anno / Santy Ano / Santy Anna
From: GUEST,Hugh
Date: 16 Jul 11 - 07:04 PM

The 'female pirate version' mentioned a dozen years ago, or one like it, is on youtube here

The poster didn't know who the singers were.

lyrics:

The Navy would never have a lass at sea
        Away Santy Ano!
So I went in search of piracy
        All on the coast of Mexico

And now we sail the southern seas
And we'll have those navy lads on their knees

CH. So heave her up and away we'll go
Away Santy Ano!
To Mexico where the warm winds blow
All on the coast of Mexico.

In Mexico I want to be
With a cask of rum on a drinking spree

Them native lads I do adore
With their eyes that shine and coal-black hair

CH.

When I was a young lass in me prime
I had them Irish lads two at a time

But I'll never leave the sea to settle down
When I can have a lad in every town

CH.

Oh the times is hard and the wages low
But we pirates must all roll and go

*

(I'm not entirely sure about the last line)

Hugh


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