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BS: Is Cho Seung-Hui a celebrity now?

Wesley S 19 Apr 07 - 02:33 PM
Mrrzy 19 Apr 07 - 02:36 PM
Wesley S 19 Apr 07 - 02:42 PM
Greg B 19 Apr 07 - 02:50 PM
Georgiansilver 19 Apr 07 - 02:52 PM
Jean(eanjay) 19 Apr 07 - 02:54 PM
GUEST,rog 19 Apr 07 - 03:03 PM
Donuel 19 Apr 07 - 03:04 PM
GUEST,meself 19 Apr 07 - 03:07 PM
Ebbie 19 Apr 07 - 03:20 PM
Little Hawk 19 Apr 07 - 03:27 PM
Peace 19 Apr 07 - 03:58 PM
Donuel 19 Apr 07 - 04:46 PM
GUEST,Martin Ryan 19 Apr 07 - 04:50 PM
Peace 19 Apr 07 - 04:51 PM
GUEST,Ed 19 Apr 07 - 04:52 PM
GUEST,meself 19 Apr 07 - 04:56 PM
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GUEST,Ed 19 Apr 07 - 05:01 PM
Charley Noble 19 Apr 07 - 05:12 PM
Wesley S 19 Apr 07 - 05:37 PM
GUEST,meself 19 Apr 07 - 05:39 PM
Peace 19 Apr 07 - 06:08 PM
GUEST,282RA 19 Apr 07 - 09:59 PM
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Subject: BS: Is Cho Seung-Hui a celebrity now?
From: Wesley S
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 02:33 PM

Have we turned Cho Seung-Hui into a celebrity? I for one am uncomfortable with amount of attention that this killer is getting. Sure – I know we have a right to know about him and the situation. Maybe we'll even be better at spotting the next psycho killer that comes along. But with the quantity of press that's he's being given do we run the risk of making him look like a "star" to the types of people who want to follow in his footsteps? How many people are out there thinking – "Only 33? I can do better than that!".

I realize that there are many of us who feel like we need to know all of the details of his life – there is a morbid curiosity that runs through most of us. But does he really need to get the amount of press attention that he's getting?


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Cho Seung-Hui a celebrity now?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 02:36 PM

Only in the US media, Wes - I listen to BBC, and it's mentioned, but that's it. That's WHY I listen to Radio IQ and not the US media.

I'm unclear on why the US media have to have feeding frenzies whenever something happens... any ideas?


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Cho Seung-Hui a celebrity now?
From: Wesley S
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 02:42 PM

Ratings. And ratings = money.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Cho Seung-Hui a celebrity now?
From: Greg B
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 02:50 PM

"I'm unclear on why the US media have to have feeding frenzies whenever
something happens... any ideas?"

To fill 24 hours a day, seven days a week with something--- anything,
while re-using the same production materials over and over again, and
collecting advertising money from sponsors.

But before we get oh-so-smug over there across the pond, wasn't the
tabloid a British invention?


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Cho Seung-Hui a celebrity now?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 02:52 PM

Press and media being the way it is...how can it be avoided?
Saddam Hussein...Mugabe.....Hitler......Vlad the impaler....I guess they are (were) all celebrities and thankfully the majority of us don't want to be like them. Not saying there might not be a copycat if someone is warped enough to see him as a star but time will tell.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Cho Seung-Hui a celebrity now?
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 02:54 PM

Chicago Tribune


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Cho Seung-Hui a celebrity now?
From: GUEST,rog
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 03:03 PM

?


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Cho Seung-Hui a celebrity now?
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 03:04 PM

IF there is one good thing at least there is no known link to Anna Nichol.


yet


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Cho Seung-Hui a celebrity now?
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 03:07 PM

The issue is related to this thread about the CBC's coverage.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Cho Seung-Hui a celebrity now?
From: Ebbie
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 03:20 PM

I have a slightly different view of the phenomenon. On the one hand I find utterly distasteful the puppy-like obsession of grabbing a development and worrying it to death. At a certain point I ignore it.

But in a larger sense I think that disecting a life and the things that caused it to develop in the way it did is a good thing. I learn a lot from it- so I imagine that other people in the same stratum that I am do also. I'm sure there are people who already *know* all these things but some do not.

Families and citizens becoming aware of and sensitive to an impetus just may save countless others from reaching the point of explosion.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Cho Seung-Hui a celebrity now?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 03:27 PM

There is an easy way to save yourself all that, Wesley. Just stop watching television. I don't watch TV, and I have spent a very small amount of my time focusing on that campus shooting. I know that it happened. I know basically what happened. That's good enough. I see no need to subject myself to endless replays and analyses of another tragic incident that I can personally do nothing about.

The press is what they are. That doesn't mean I have to listen to them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Cho Seung-Hui a celebrity now?
From: Peace
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 03:58 PM

Most stations have an hour of news per day. They spread it over a 24-hour time period.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Cho Seung-Hui a celebrity now?
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 04:46 PM

NBC vowed to dial it down.

After the execution of the Lincoln murder conspirators the newspaper said
"and we shall speak their names no more."


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Cho Seung-Hui a celebrity now?
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 04:50 PM

I have to confess I find it bizarre that among all the murderous, hate-filled words and images of the video pieces, the only thing that gets censored is the word "fuck".

Regards


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Cho Seung-Hui a celebrity now?
From: Peace
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 04:51 PM

Yeah. Show lots of pictures of bodies, blood, guns--then censor the word 'fuck'. People sure have their priorities in order.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Cho Seung-Hui a celebrity now?
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 04:52 PM

Let's get a bit of perspective here.

News channels want to make money.

Lots of people want to watch it.

Go figure????


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Cho Seung-Hui a celebrity now?
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 04:56 PM

So does the fact that news channels will do anything for money mean that we shouldn't sneer at them?


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Cho Seung-Hui a celebrity now?
From: Stu
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 04:58 PM

Played 'em like a fiddle.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Cho Seung-Hui a celebrity now?
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 05:01 PM

So does the fact that news channels will do anything for money mean that we shouldn't sneer at them?

Sneer all you want. It won't change anything


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Cho Seung-Hui a celebrity now?
From: Charley Noble
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 05:12 PM

Wesley-

If you are uncomfortable with this topic, consider resisting the impulse to start another thread on it.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Cho Seung-Hui a celebrity now?
From: Wesley S
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 05:37 PM

Charlie - Did you even read my post? My concern is the effect that the news medias coverage will have on the people who might see Cho Seung-Hui as someone to be emulated. Since we've never met I'm happy to report to you that I'm not one of them. The thread was not started as an impulse. It's been a topic of conversation with several of my friends and co-workers lately.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Cho Seung-Hui a celebrity now?
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 05:39 PM

"Sneer all you want. It won't change anything"

You're probably right. And, thank you, I will keep sneering.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Cho Seung-Hui a celebrity now?
From: Peace
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 06:08 PM

"Is Cho Seung-Hui a celebrity now?"

Not to me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Cho Seung-Hui a celebrity now?
From: GUEST,282RA
Date: 19 Apr 07 - 09:59 PM

Any tragedy that takes the public's mind off Iraq is played up in the press because they are housebroken--White Housebroken.

Besides we live in an age of information and there's going to be a period of morbid fascination for Cho. Which is still better than any news about Sanjaya.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Cho Seung-Hui a celebrity now?
From: Ron Davies
Date: 20 Apr 07 - 08:09 AM

I think that neither NBC nor any other outlet should have printed or broadcast some of those pictures--particularly the one with Cho holding 2 pistols. As has been noted, it's too easy for frustrated unstable kids to think " What a bold defiant pose. And he was a loser. Now he's a celebrity. I can too."

They can print all sorts of pictures--just should not do the ones that picture killers in the "romantic outlaw" pose. This is not censorship--and obviously should not be imposed by the government --   it's just the news outlet using its own judgment as to the likely reaction.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Cho Seung-Hui a celebrity now?
From: Pseudolus
Date: 20 Apr 07 - 09:25 AM

I think it is a line that is difficult to deal with. Don't say enough and people will complain that we are unfeeling and don't care about the victims of the tragedy. Talk too much and we're glorifying the killer. I think the thing that bothers me is the way it is done. Like, why do we have to put a dramatic name on the story? Do we have to start the coverage with a dramatic logo and a saying like, "Massacre at Virginia Tech"? I know, I know, without it viewers might watch another news outlet and it's all about the ratings.

I don't know the answer but I know the whole thing is disturbing...as if the incident itself wasn't disturbing enough.

Frank


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Subject: RE: BS: Is Cho Seung-Hui a celebrity now?
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Apr 07 - 09:51 AM

The outcry of news PORNOGRAPHY was heard yesterday. Funny that is the same technique used by Muslim extremeists in Indonesia to beat the populace into submission.

Just like people wanted this thread to be a text only chapel for condolence, people want the news to be a video chapel for the tragedy. ITs not wrong but it doesn;t serve everybody either.


CNN JUST DID A VIDEO TOUR OF CHO'S DORM ROOM!
There's a desk, a bed..... over there are poo poo undies.
WOW what an exclusive!


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