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BS: Belfast accents

ard mhacha 12 Nov 08 - 02:06 PM
Seamus Kennedy 11 Nov 08 - 11:02 AM
ard mhacha 11 May 07 - 02:41 AM
GUEST,Tír Chonaill 10 May 07 - 06:31 PM
Partridge 10 May 07 - 01:45 PM
Jimmy C 10 May 07 - 10:43 AM
ard mhacha 10 May 07 - 05:04 AM
Seamus Kennedy 10 May 07 - 03:11 AM
Jimmy C 10 May 07 - 12:48 AM
Seamus Kennedy 10 May 07 - 12:01 AM
Seamus Kennedy 09 May 07 - 02:59 AM
Jimmy C 09 May 07 - 12:17 AM
Seamus Kennedy 08 May 07 - 03:49 PM
Partridge 08 May 07 - 02:46 PM
cobra 08 May 07 - 12:05 PM
ard mhacha 08 May 07 - 07:23 AM
alison 08 May 07 - 03:46 AM
Seamus Kennedy 08 May 07 - 12:50 AM
alison 08 May 07 - 12:04 AM
MartinRyan 07 May 07 - 06:08 PM
Seamus Kennedy 07 May 07 - 05:39 PM
MartinRyan 07 May 07 - 03:19 PM
Seamus Kennedy 07 May 07 - 01:28 PM
Den 07 May 07 - 12:09 PM
GUEST,Tyrone bushman 07 May 07 - 07:50 AM
alison 07 May 07 - 02:30 AM
Seamus Kennedy 07 May 07 - 01:21 AM
Den 07 May 07 - 12:17 AM
Den 07 May 07 - 12:15 AM
Jimmy C 06 May 07 - 10:40 PM
cobra 06 May 07 - 08:10 AM
ard mhacha 06 May 07 - 06:36 AM
Declan 06 May 07 - 04:50 AM
Seamus Kennedy 06 May 07 - 02:00 AM
Jimmy C 06 May 07 - 01:09 AM
bubblyrat 05 May 07 - 04:51 PM
GUEST 04 May 07 - 07:39 PM
freda underhill 04 May 07 - 08:41 AM
GUEST,cobra 04 May 07 - 08:02 AM
ard mhacha 04 May 07 - 04:36 AM
Seamus Kennedy 04 May 07 - 12:55 AM
Fibula Mattock 03 May 07 - 06:18 PM
cobra 03 May 07 - 06:02 PM
GUEST,cobra 03 May 07 - 05:15 PM
ard mhacha 03 May 07 - 01:39 PM
Greg B 03 May 07 - 01:30 PM
ard mhacha 03 May 07 - 01:28 PM
McGrath of Harlow 03 May 07 - 01:23 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: ard mhacha
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 02:06 PM

Seamus I enjoyed reading through this old Thread, for anyone interested listen to the Gerry Anderson programme from BBC NI,or catch some hilarious sketches from his show,`On the air`on You Tube. The callers to his show have a wide range of northern accents.


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 11 Nov 08 - 11:02 AM

Refresh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: ard mhacha
Date: 11 May 07 - 02:41 AM

Jimmy roll on the day, I can remember 1951 and Antrim beating Cavan in their last Ulster final win, as Armagh born Kevin Armstrong lead the team to victory, I have the match programme yet.
Tir Chonaill, that would be her `bror`s wife`. she could have been worse aff, in the UTA with her narves.


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: GUEST,Tír Chonaill
Date: 10 May 07 - 06:31 PM

... an' there was me in bed with me back, in the middle of me dinner, when ma sister foned to tell us that her man's ma's brother's wife had to go into haspital to get one of them hysterical erections, cos hur oul' pipes has bin givin' hur a lot of bawr for ages, y'no.
Ah think her last chile had to spen a wik in one of them incinurator things.

Tarrable


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: Partridge
Date: 10 May 07 - 01:45 PM

I've given Kate the details about this site, she's going to look in. if she can find it.

Many thanks for all your contributions

Pat x


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: Jimmy C
Date: 10 May 07 - 10:43 AM

Ard mhacha
Unfortunately that is true, but I suspect that if the Glensmen and indeed any county in Ireland had to put with over 30 years of bombings, shootings etc on their doorstep the level of football and hurling would also have declined in those areas. Now that peace is here to stay(hopefully) there will be a great improvement in the Belfast area athletes. I personally believe that Antrim football teams were better when they picked a bunch of guys from the bottom of the Springfield road, instead they try to pick players from as many clubs as possible, so that all areas are represented.
Hurling (the better and classier game) is a diferent kettle of fish. The children in the glens are born with a hurl in one hand and a sliothar in the other. - So long as the gaelic games are being played then we are all winners. I can't wait to see an All-Ireland champion Antrim team consisting of both taigs and prods. That will be a day for celebration. I know it will be a long long wait, but we can always hope,


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: ard mhacha
Date: 10 May 07 - 05:04 AM

The boul Seamus, I am in the notion of taking the odd wee dander at this time of the year, how`s wor Jimmy C, I was reading a letter in todays Irish News from someone in the Glens and he was whaling into the Belfast GAA teams as the reason for Antrims pathetic record in our native games, he reckons while the `McCooeys` are in charge they couldn`t bate `My Aunt Jane`.


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 10 May 07 - 03:11 AM

JimmyC, oul' hawn, what about ye?

Ach, stay away frum thon lemon stuff; it'll give ye the skitters so it will.

Ah lurried a dozen pints o' Guinness intil me last night, an' Ah wuz shitin' like a flock o' starlin's this mornin'.

Didja notice Ard Mhach nivver came back?

It must be awful fur an Armagh mawn to go through life wi' no discernible accent at all.

Shure, it's a pity of them, so it is.

Seamus


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: Jimmy C
Date: 10 May 07 - 12:48 AM

Seamie,

Thanks a lot for saving the thread.

Just got logged in a few minutes ago. I was out shappin for a battel of orange limanaid but all they has was thon lemon stuff.


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 10 May 07 - 12:01 AM

Whew! Just saved this frum drappin' aff the end. Close!

Seamus


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 09 May 07 - 02:59 AM

JimmyC - don't you start! Y'oul Hardin' St. slabber!

Ah'm up til a hunderd listenin' til the likes o' Ard Mhacha tellin' us har we shud spake.

You don't hear us us tryin' to sound lak Armagh people nar, do you?

Gawd gimme strenth!

Seamus


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: Jimmy C
Date: 09 May 07 - 12:17 AM

Seamus,

Fer God's sake dont mine that owl buck eejit from the country, shure there not even used to wawkin on sement yet.

Ardmacha - sure I'm oney codding ya.

Alison, you better watch that Kennedy fella, sure he lies like a cheap wig.


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 08 May 07 - 03:49 PM

Cobra, yer oney an oul' glipe.

As fer thon oul' Armagh eejit Ard Mhacha, didja ivver hear the likes of thon in yer puff? Tryin' til tell us Belfast ones har til pronounce wir own langwidge?
Gwen mine yer own bizness, ya nosey oul' pochle!
Yer as saft as a guttie fulla shite, so y'are.

Alison, if you don't mine me astin', why is yer ma watchin' us coort?
Is she one o' themmins as like til watch orrs gettin' a wee bit?
One o' them voyagers?
Tell her til keep her eyes til herself. Her and Ard Mhacha wud make a quare pare, so they wud!

Seamus


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: Partridge
Date: 08 May 07 - 02:46 PM

Thanks for all your contributions, My pal Kate starts rehearsals at the end of this month. If any of you are in Oldham - go see her in "Woman on the verge of HRT"

thanks

pat xx


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: cobra
Date: 08 May 07 - 12:05 PM

Hallions, yiz are all hallions.


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: ard mhacha
Date: 08 May 07 - 07:23 AM

Belfast spake, fool-em = Fulham, Karr=Car, Gaarden = Garden, Gaass = Gas the soft `G` from the back of the throat in the latter, Bull pronounced sound as in Fool, try Butcher folks the vowels are changed to a long O, it sounds like Bootcher. North Armagh see you nix-wick.


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: alison
Date: 08 May 07 - 03:46 AM

aye so long as ye don't try slipping the aul haun too soon, or me ma'll swing fer ye, so she will

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 08 May 07 - 12:50 AM

Martin, I can't remember the last time I was in church, but it's on my Baptism certificate. (Thank you Spike Milligan!)

Alison, Cobra, Den, Fibs, JimmyC, whattaya say we start our own wee Belfast clique here on the 'Cat, and speak only in wir own dialect.

I mane there's a buncha them Scatch ones speakin' in Lallans or Glesca or whatever the hell tongue they're chanderin' in, an' if yer nat frum Ahoghill or Ballymena ye can't understond an effin' thing they're sayin', so ye can't.

I manetasay, luk at the late great Little John Cameron. If he kin do it, so kin we.

Are yiz up fur it?

Am away fur a jook at ma John Pepper Dictionary, so Ah am.

Seamus


Alison, enny time...enny time. We'll start wir a wee lumber first, OK?

Seamus


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: alison
Date: 08 May 07 - 12:04 AM

right Seamie yer on!! an if ye don't turn up I'll bate yer melt in!!

'bout'ye Den........... how's life in the land of chocolate?

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: MartinRyan
Date: 07 May 07 - 06:08 PM

Yes, Seamus - I was thinking of the Mass version, indeed. Occasional appearances in the church choir is the extent of my religious observance these days..

Regards


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 07 May 07 - 05:39 PM

Martin I think you may be referring to the Our Father in the Mass.
I don't think the 'normal' praying of it has the "For thine.." addendum.

At least, not on the Falls.
Ach, away on wi' yez!

Seamus


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: MartinRyan
Date: 07 May 07 - 03:19 PM

Seamus,

I'm afraid the other lot have picked up a version of "for the kingdom the power and the glory etc." - so you haven't a prayer!

Regards

p.s. Great thread BTW - even if much of it is about dialect rather than accent.


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 07 May 07 - 01:28 PM

Oooh, Tyrone Among the Bushes has been heard from.*G*

"Do you know that country people in the north regard Belfast people as know-alls."

And rightly so.

Alison, I love the 'aitch'- 'ah' response. Brilliant!

As regards the 'coort'....enny time yer reddy, big girl; gethemaffye!

Seamus


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: Den
Date: 07 May 07 - 12:09 PM

Alison, you'se are all snouties, and don't come back with the one eyebrow thing, you'll have to be more original. Maybe we have hairier legs even the girls, ok hairier legs and one eyebrow...I'm making this too easy for you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: GUEST,Tyrone bushman
Date: 07 May 07 - 07:50 AM

Do you know that country people in the north regard Belfast people as know-alls.


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: alison
Date: 07 May 07 - 02:30 AM

'bout ye fellas

it works both ways we can spot youse too before youse even open yer mouths................. hahahaha

finding out where someone went to school was always a pretty good indicator...........

I remember a fella trying to suss out "what I was" by pretending to need an answer to a crossword puzzle - he "needed" me to spell Johnannesburg - confused him rightly by saying J.o. aitch. ah. n.etc

("a" being another of those letters the two "sides" can pronounce differently) - sticking a prod "h" & a catholic "a" in the same sentence left him in doubt

the next question was " so what school did you go to?" *grin*

Get the DVD "an everlasting piece" it had some good accents,

Hey Seamus fancy a wee coort up the entry big fella?

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 07 May 07 - 01:21 AM

JimmyC, I have several Belfast Protestant friends, who say the same thing, so you're right - it's not just one side who has this amazing ability. Probably centuries of ingrained defence mechanism kicking in, where little clues, aural, visual, etc., are processed in milliseconds before flight or fight.

Cobra - "hoag"?

Den, another way to tell is to make them say the Our Father.
If they add the "For thine is the kingdom" bit at the end, they're Prods; if not, they're Taigs.
Then proceed to administer the kicking. *G*

Seamus


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: Den
Date: 07 May 07 - 12:17 AM

Q. What's the definition of passion?
A. Heavy rainfall in Ballymena.


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: Den
Date: 07 May 07 - 12:15 AM

This thread has meandered way off topic and who am I to stop it. The key is the letter 'H'. Prods pronounce it aich, whilst Taigs pronounce it haich.

Declan that was very funny I'll hafty tell the bror.

How come the people, primarily from the markets are the only people in the UK who actually pronounce the word gas the way it is spelled. Everyone elsewhere pronounces it gyas.

Guy from Ahoghill goes into a bakers shop and says to the wee woman behind the counter, "is that a cheese cake or a merrangue?" and the wee woman says, "naw you're right."


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: Jimmy C
Date: 06 May 07 - 10:40 PM

Seamus, regarding the above query about visual clues etc. I would say yes.

By first and last name I would be 95% correct.

By visual appearance and accent I would be 90% correct.

By accent alone - probaly close to 90% correct.

By visual appearance without the accent but knowing they came from Belfast I would be correct at least 70% of the time.

It's something we Belfast people cannot understand or even explain but it is true, and is probably true in other cities such as Derry and Armagh, maybe even Glasgow. I suppose we and our fathers before us have grown up with an air of suspicion all our lives that it has become second nature for people on both sides of the divide. I imagine that one would have to be from Belfast etc to develop this sense but to try to explain it is nigh impossible.
I am retired but work a few hours weekly in a retail hardware store here in Canada, I hear North of Ireland accents from customers quite often, and before they realize where I am from I instinctively know their religon , it's incanny because after talking to them for a few minutes my assumptions are correct about 90% of the time. In fact one time I heard this accent from an old man who came into the store, obviously from Belfast, I had him figured as a protestant from around the Shankill, but he turned out to be a catholic from the same street where I was born, we became friends after meeting a few times in a certain pub and I got to know him quite well only to find out later that he was indeed a protestant fom the Shankill who had converted to Catholicism when he married a women from my district. I told him what I had felt the first time I met him and he replied that he knew I was a catholic just by looking at me, so it's not all one sided.

I did have an interesting conversation with a gentleman from the West Indies about accents and he made a very profound statement. he said " you know Jim, we do not speak with accents but we hear with accents". I'm still trying to figure that one out.


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: cobra
Date: 06 May 07 - 08:10 AM

"Interesting thought here, Jimmy, Cobra and Fibs: could you tell someone's religious persuasion without visual clues?"

No prablemo, Seamus.

The hoag aff a hun is not easily forgotten.


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: ard mhacha
Date: 06 May 07 - 06:36 AM

Jimmy C, your no chancer, but you would query what school a person went to or the district he came from as a good pointer to that persons religion.
Accents change every couple of miles here, and I imagine that is the same in most countries.I can tell a countryman by his accent and that is only a couple of miles down the road.
The fact that most Protestants would sound the `G`, as in changing, the Micks would say changin`etc.
I have listened to accents, and taken a great interest in peoples speech from all over the UK and Ireland and my favourites are, south-west England, east anglia, the Scottish Highland area, Donegal and south Down.


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: Declan
Date: 06 May 07 - 04:50 AM

There's a joke about two guys passing a record shop in Belfast.

The first one says "Thats Nat King Cole" and the other one says "Who is it then?"

Should illustrate how to pronoince the word Not.


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 06 May 07 - 02:00 AM

JimmyC is right about being able to tell is Protestant or Catholic from their speech.
It's nothing I've ever thought about or analyzed, but there must be clues in the speech pattern and possible body language which, though invisible to outsiders, can be detected by Belfast people.
As Jimmy says, it's not 100% accurate, but as near as dammit.

Interesting thought here, Jimmy, Cobra and Fibs: could you tell someone's religious persuasion without visual clues?
By just the voice alone? As in the accents in Freda's link above?

Seamus


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: Jimmy C
Date: 06 May 07 - 01:09 AM

Coming from Belfast myself, I can tell what part of the town a person comes from by their accent. The ones from over the bridge (Co Down) side have a completely different accent than the ones from round the docks. Also the Malone Road, Hollywoood Road types do not sound the same as the Falls or Shankill ones, so they don't.

As far as the catholic/ Protestant thing goes I can tell whether a person is a prod or a taig from their accent and I will be correct about 90% of the time. It's something that you unknowingly develop and there is no explantation for it.

Peter Postlewaite who portrayed the father in "In The Name of the Father", had the accent down pat, right on the button. Daniel Day Lewis also did his homework as well. It's also something you don't lose. I have been away from Belfast for 41 years and people still cannot understand certain words, especially " eight" "owl" and some slanguage like " yourr mawns a bengal lancer" etc. I bet Kennedy knows what I am talking about. I do notice that when Belfast people get together the speech quickens and an outsider hasn't a hope in hell of understanding us. Even though it may not be as musical as some others, it's ours and I love it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: bubblyrat
Date: 05 May 07 - 04:51 PM

So it would !


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: GUEST
Date: 04 May 07 - 07:39 PM

There is a DVD - and video tape - on Amazon of James Young, a very funny Belfast comedian. If you can understand
the accent it would be a good guide to Belfast speech.


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: freda underhill
Date: 04 May 07 - 08:41 AM

the other side.. when i went to belfast and dublin in 2001, no one could understand what i was saying. I'd say something like, can you tell me the way to the museum, and they'd look at me and say "whad did yu say?"

freda


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: GUEST,cobra
Date: 04 May 07 - 08:02 AM

My bror ordering a "hawm sammich" in a Vermont sandwich shop was good for about a half hour of of puzzled exchanges between him and the waitress. Rotten sod that I am, I didn't do anything whatsoever to facilitate a translation. Tee hee.

I was also amused by his attempts to get "anorr tarl" for his hotel room later that evening.

He wasn't.


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: ard mhacha
Date: 04 May 07 - 04:36 AM

Seamus, Anyone wants to hear a Belfast accent log on to BBC NI and listen to The Stephen Nolan Show or The Gerry Anderson show, the shows include accents from all over the province, the majority of the accents are from Belfast.


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 04 May 07 - 12:55 AM

Kate, I had the same problem when I first came to the States.
"Shimmus?" They'd ask, until I finally plucked up my courage, dropped the Norn Iron accent and said 'Shay-mus".

Late, fate, bait, slate were a pain in the hole too.

Cobra, you're definitely Falls Rd. I can tell by the "See me, see my mawn...." but you forgot "so 'e duz" at the end.

Ard, you always know when you're talkin' til a Prod. They sound like their eyes are too close together and they dig wi' the orr fut.

Where the hell's Aidan Crossey when we need him?

Seamus


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 03 May 07 - 06:18 PM

I've lived in England nearly 7 years now and still I have to say my name funny (funny being in an English accent), for when I say "Kate" in my normal accent everyone thinks I'm called Kit.


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: cobra
Date: 03 May 07 - 06:02 PM

Oh, and a few ice-breakers for when you are at a party and lost for a few words:-

1. Yer ma

2. (slighty more formal) Yer ma's a millie.

You'll find yourself the centre of attention in no time. Promise. ;)


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: GUEST,cobra
Date: 03 May 07 - 05:15 PM

Meer heer ti I tell ye

Gwen fukk

Bout ye ya big hoor

see me, see my mawn, see cheese, he hates it

Boutchee

Eeny tally

Yew lukkin a dig ina bake


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: ard mhacha
Date: 03 May 07 - 01:39 PM

Freda, I have just listened to those people on that N Ireland Site, they would be classed as BBC NI readers , so far removed from the person-in-the-street. Fibula and Seamus have you followed Freda`s web link, try it and let us all have a laugh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: Greg B
Date: 03 May 07 - 01:30 PM

That's funny, as I perceive the accent on 'Shipyard Slips' as
quiet distinct from that on other Furey songs, particularly
on the first first verse and the choruses. Perhaps a hold-over
from the pronunciation of its author?


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: ard mhacha
Date: 03 May 07 - 01:28 PM

Seamus, Please put the people on this Thread out of their agony that Protestants and Catholics have a different accent,the people in the street that I meet each day of both religions both speak the same,surely Fibula`s wee story of needling out which school you went to was the means of identification. There is no difference.


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 03 May 07 - 01:23 PM

I remember back in 1969 going round with a People's Democracy lad during an election. Very non-sectarian, campaigning in all parts - so when he was in front of a Protestant crowd he'd say "My name's Billy", and when they were Catholics it'd be "My name's Liam". And the accent shifted a bit too.


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 03 May 07 - 01:15 PM

Greg B, I think that's Eddie Furey singing on Shipyard Slips, and he isn't trying to do a Belfast accent. He's singing (powerfully, as usual) in his Dublin accent.

Fibula, stickin' out, thanks. BTW, those of us better-rared pronounced it "Well nahr".

Oliver - Frank Carson (Kyarson?)...good example.

Seamus


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Subject: RE: BS: Belfast accents
From: PoppaGator
Date: 03 May 07 - 01:12 PM

Thanks, freda, GREAT resource ~ mp3's of accents and dialents from around the English speaking world! (The website is called "IDEA," for "International Dialects of English Archive.")

I found it amusing that the three sample speakers of Northern Ireland English are all identified as "Caucasian" ~ duh! ~ but not as either Protestant or Catholic.

Number One is described as an "ex-nun," which probably puts her in the Catholic camp, or maybe ex-Catholic, which is probaly the same thing as far as culture and dialect are concerned.

Now, it it were an ex-priest, he could be an ex-Catholic Protestant if he had wanted to marry and remain a clergyman. At least, that's not uncommon in the US; I can see, however, that it might be more difficult for any Catholic in Ulster, priest or not, to convert over to the other side.


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