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Lyr Req: Sussex Wedding Song

GUEST,cliff 19 May 07 - 12:26 PM
The Borchester Echo 19 May 07 - 12:36 PM
Joe Offer 22 May 07 - 03:29 PM
MMario 22 May 07 - 03:32 PM
The Borchester Echo 22 May 07 - 03:41 PM
Joe Offer 22 May 07 - 03:55 PM
The Borchester Echo 22 May 07 - 03:58 PM
Joe Offer 22 May 07 - 03:59 PM
The Borchester Echo 22 May 07 - 04:03 PM
MMario 22 May 07 - 04:07 PM
MMario 22 May 07 - 04:10 PM
rumanci 22 May 07 - 06:19 PM
SussexCarole 22 May 07 - 06:46 PM
Old Grizzly 22 May 07 - 06:52 PM
Dave Earl 22 May 07 - 06:59 PM
Dave Earl 22 May 07 - 07:04 PM
GUEST,padgett 23 May 07 - 07:07 AM
GUEST,PMB 23 May 07 - 07:51 AM
The Borchester Echo 23 May 07 - 07:59 AM
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Subject: Lyr Req: Sussex Wedding Song
From: GUEST,cliff
Date: 19 May 07 - 12:26 PM

That's it. Thanks.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sussex Wedding Song
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 19 May 07 - 12:36 PM

Erm, has somebody lost the first two posts?
Like the question and the answer?

Do you mean Come Write Me Down , as in the DT?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sussex Wedding Song
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 May 07 - 03:29 PM

Hmmm. do we have a problem here? I see no deleted messages in this thread, and I can't find any other Sussex Wedding Song messages in the entire history of Mudcat. Maybe we have a tech problem with disappearing messages, or maybe Cliff knows something we don't know.
Anyhow, can somebody enlighten us about the Sussex Wedding Song?
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sussex Wedding Song
From: MMario
Date: 22 May 07 - 03:32 PM

only two references on google - and one is to this thread. The other is to a dating site.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sussex Wedding Song
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 22 May 07 - 03:41 PM

Good grief, I thought everybody knew Come Write Me Down, A Song For Every Season, The Copper Family . . . (mutter, grumble, going to the pub . . . )


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sussex Wedding Song
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 May 07 - 03:55 PM

Yeah, I thought everybody knew "Come Write Me Down," too - but I guess I didn't think of it as a/the Sussex Wedding Song. What's the connection, Countess Richard?
In the notes for "Come Write Me Down, Ye Powers Above" on the Copper Family Come Write Me Down CD, steve Roud writes:
    Noted only a few times by collectors, but in widely spread location, sussex, Somerset, Dorset, Birmingham, north-east Scotland, North Carolina, Illinois, and Newfoundland. There are a number of broadside versions from both London and provincial printers, including Catnach and Pitts, but none later than mid-nineteenth century. It therefore dates from the 1830s or before that, and has the feel of a late eighteenth century piece. Earlier printings had the title A New Song Called the True Lovers, or Second Thoughts Best
So, I still don't see the Sussex Wedding Song connection.
-Joe-
    So to church they went the very next day
    And were married by asking, as I've heard say
    So now that girl she is his wife
    She will prove his comforts day and night...

    So now his trouble and sorrow is past
    His joy and comfort has come at last
    That girl to him always said nay
    She will prove his comforts night and day....


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sussex Wedding Song
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 22 May 07 - 03:58 PM

Erm, it's alternative title is Wedding Song.
As it's about a wedding.
In Sussex.
(Really going to pub).


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sussex Wedding Song
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 May 07 - 03:59 PM

Yeah, OK, and do you think Newfoundlanders would agree with you?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sussex Wedding Song
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 22 May 07 - 04:03 PM

Probably, but there's a possibility of debate in New Jersey.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sussex Wedding Song
From: MMario
Date: 22 May 07 - 04:07 PM

still doesn't explain the lack of question and answer ! *grin*

Nice to knowo the alternative title, etc...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sussex Wedding Song
From: MMario
Date: 22 May 07 - 04:10 PM

BTW - folkinfo thread on this is at: http://www.folkinfo.org/forum/topic.php?topicid=381

no mention there of "wedding song" either.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sussex Wedding Song
From: rumanci
Date: 22 May 07 - 06:19 PM

You might of course have thought of checking THIS
page of the oracle for confirmation however
LOL
rum
(yeah yeah SUSSEX really matters to some of us !)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sussex Wedding Song
From: SussexCarole
Date: 22 May 07 - 06:46 PM

Hiya Rum
I'll second that - even though I live in exile here in Wales


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sussex Wedding Song
From: Old Grizzly
Date: 22 May 07 - 06:52 PM

MMario,

Rumour has it that the question and answer eloped :o)

Dave


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sussex Wedding Song
From: Dave Earl
Date: 22 May 07 - 06:59 PM

Rum 'N Carole

Right on.

There baint but one Wedding Song and thats the Sussex 'un.

Dave


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sussex Wedding Song
From: Dave Earl
Date: 22 May 07 - 07:04 PM

And does'nt uz know that the Copper family habitualy titled the song as they sung by using the first line or first few words.

Thus "come write me down" equals what may be called elsewhwere as "The Wedding Song"

Dave


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sussex Wedding Song
From: GUEST,padgett
Date: 23 May 07 - 07:07 AM

There is a Lincolnshire Wedding song!!

Ray

I love the "married by asking" bit in The Sussex Wedding song, cos thats what the Vicar does!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sussex Wedding Song
From: GUEST,PMB
Date: 23 May 07 - 07:51 AM

There was I thinking it was "married by Hoskins", he being the vicar.

But there's something odd about all this. Since the mid-18th century, a marriage has been void unless the banns were read out in church on Sundays (two or three, I can't remember) before the wedding. So it's either Scottish in origin, or much older than the first published date.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sussex Wedding Song
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 23 May 07 - 07:59 AM

According to the DT study on Come Write Me Down, the song is derived from a broadside text dating from 1656.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sussex Wedding Song
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 23 May 07 - 05:09 PM

Well, we used to think people weren't properly married until they'd had the Wedding Song sung to them!

Kitty

PS this is a decades old tradition, not centuries....


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sussex Wedding Song
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 11 Dec 10 - 12:27 PM

Maybe he wanted the SUSSEX WHIRDLING SONG which is on the album "The Best of Rambling Syd Rumpo," by Kenneth Williams. Authorship is credited to Barry Took and Marty Feldman. Lyrics have been posted here, in a thread about Kenneth Williams.

I can imagine that "whirdling" might have been misheard as "wedding."


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Sussex Wedding Song
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 11 Dec 10 - 06:27 PM

Nah,
It's the Sussex Welding Song, runs thus

'Come send me down ye powerful trucks
The man that first created flux,
For I've a diamond in my eye,
Through too much welding I've a stye.


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