Forum for club organisers

Subject: New eList forum for club organisers
From: GUEST,Tom Bliss
Date: 21 Apr 07 - 01:05 PM

The many Mudcat discussions on the future of folk / acoustic clubs and venues has been a major calayst for this idea, and I know a lot of club organisers are Mudcatters...

FOLKCLUBS LIST

Following the infiltration of the old FolkBiz-UK list by spammers, and knowing how useful a closed support group can be thanks to Britfolk, we're starting a new CLOSED group specially for folk club organisers, volunteers and others interested in the business side of clubs (Festivals already have an organisation).

There's been a lot of chatter about the imminent demise of folk clubs, which we think is a bit _previous_, but it's true there are some serious challenges ahead.

Licensing, the smoking ban, changes in pub trade, PRS, an ageing audience, young performers and where they can learn their trade, preserving the tradition, publicity, press, advertising, security, PR, websites, PA and lighting kit, where to buy candles and backdrops, door prices, artists fees - are all topics people might want to discuss amongst friends.

So the forum is open only to those who have applied and been identified, because, like Britfolk, it should be a place where people can feel free to chat to others in a similar situation, in reasonable confidence. It's NOT a place for artists to sell themselves, (though performers may join if they have something useful to contribute to the debate, and websites in signatures will be permitted).

To join just send a blank e-mail to;
[e-mail]

Once you've joined, the mailing address for members is: [e-mail]

Let's make the new folkclubs list active and useful and prove fRoots and others wrong when they say folk clubs are dying on their feet. Frankly, it's our duty to make sure they thrive beyond our generation.

Please hop aboard or forward to any club organisers who you think might be interested

Jacey and Tom

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Jacey Bedford                   jacey(at)jacey-bedford.com
Tom Bliss                      bliss(at)dircon.co.uk

Subject: RE: New eList forum for club organisers
From: Sooz
Date: 21 Apr 07 - 02:01 PM

I've just joined up.

Subject: RE: New eList forum for club organisers
From: Rasener
Date: 21 Apr 07 - 02:55 PM

So Have I

Subject: RE: New eList forum for club organisers
From: GUEST,Tom Bliss
Date: 22 Apr 07 - 04:48 AM

The applications are coming in by the minute this morning.

Please tell your local club organisers about it. This could prove to be a very timely development.

Thanks

Tom

Subject: RE: New eList forum for club organisers
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Apr 07 - 09:25 AM

Who are you calling 'ageing' ?   I'm the same age I've always been.

Subject: RE: New eList forum for club organisers
From: Girl Friday
Date: 22 Apr 07 - 02:36 PM

I think I joined up. I kept being told that my comments were too long. I edited them two or three times, then I got bored. No way were they any more than 100 characters.

Subject: RE: New eList forum for club organisers
From: GUEST,Tom Bliss
Date: 22 Apr 07 - 02:41 PM

Hi Girl Friday - don't worry about putting comments for now. Just send the Join-Up email, and then you can post as long a comment as you need! :-)
Tom

Subject: RE: New eList forum for club organisers
From: GUEST,Tom
Date: 24 Apr 07 - 09:41 AM

Just bumping this to the top before I loose it. We have 70+ members already but there are 450 clubs in the Uk...

Subject: RE: New eList forum for club organisers
From: nickp
Date: 24 Apr 07 - 01:21 PM

Sent mine off although I'm not actually a club organiser as such. Note that is there's might be a spam attack eventually should those email addresses be 'in the open' at the top. Can a Joe-Clone convert them to avoid the 'bots'?
Nick

Subject: RE: New eList forum for club organisers
From: Sliding Down The Bannister At My Auntie's House
Date: 25 Apr 07 - 02:06 AM

So once we send a blank email off what then?

Subject: RE: New eList forum for club organisers
From: GUEST,Tom Bliss
Date: 25 Apr 07 - 03:40 AM

Yes good point about the spam - thanks. I wasn't thinking, as my email's all over the web anyway.

When you send off your blank email, it comes to us for approval. We know most club organiser's addresses already so we click them through, or if we don't we might write to ask who you are (if you've not said in the 'blank' mail) before approving. This is to keep out spammers and anyone who's not really involved at all.

Once you're a member, you log into the Yahoo Groups site and choose whether to recieve group messages as normal emails, or just as an email digest, or to have no emails and merely look at and post messages on the Yahoo site.

By bad luck Yahoo had a glitch in the first few days so some people couldn't get into the site properly, but it's working now and there's merry chat happening.

Subject: RE: New eList forum for club organisers
From: Rasener
Date: 25 Apr 07 - 03:14 PM

>>but it's working now and there's merry chat happening<<

You are not joking Tom, a bit overwhelming. I went into my inbox on yahoo and had over 100 posts, which look to be the posts from the threads. Is that correct.
Les

Subject: RE: New eList forum for club organisers
From: GUEST,Tom Bliss
Date: 26 Apr 07 - 04:20 AM

Yes. it's an emails-based group, so there are times when there's quite a lot of traffic.

But if you're on dial-up, or just don't want to get a lot of mail, you can switch off the email function and just read and post on the Yahoo website, more like Mudcat.

1) Go to www.yahoogroups.com

2) Sign up if you are not already registered, or sign in if you are

3) go to _my groups_

4) click on the relevant group (folkclubs)

5) to see the group's archived messages from the frame on the left hand side
click _messages_

6) you can read and reply to messages via the yahoogroups website

You can also change your message status.

Click on Edit Membership... (witch is top left above the 'folk clubs' banner)

You can choose

1) Emails as they are sent

2) Just a Daily Digest, which lets you see all message by email, but limits the amount of email you receive.

3) Special Notices only - (important email notices from the group moderators).

4) Or you can choose Web Only, in which you only read and post messages on the web, and don't see any emails at all.

Cheers

Tom

Subject: RE: New eList forum for club organisers
From: GUEST,Tom Bliss
Date: 26 Apr 07 - 04:27 AM

We've had a few requests from non UK clubs, and also from dance clubs.

We did assume that this would be mainly about UK-based song and tune clubs (both concert and singaround types), and 90% of members are indeed located here, but as long as you don't mind that fact that most of the chat is likely to be about issues affecting the above we do think it's a good idea to have some non-UK and/or a dance people, because, after all, we're all trying to achieve the same thing, and many of the problems we face are universal.

So come on down!

Tom

Subject: RE: New eList forum for club organisers
From: Rasener
Date: 26 Apr 07 - 04:41 AM

I do two things now Tom

I open the Yahoo e-mail on the internet (webmail)
I then open the yahoogroups (folkclubs)

I read the e-mails and delete them.

I then rely on the group part if I want to go back to an old post.

I minimise both windows on the taskbar when not in use.

Les

Subject: RE: New eList forum for club organisers
From: Rasener
Date: 29 Apr 07 - 01:21 PM

Refresh for Muppitz :-)

Subject: RE: New online forum for club organisers
From: GUEST, Tom Bliss
Date: 13 May 07 - 08:20 AM

I've been telking about this to a few club organisers in the past weeks and promised to bump this tread to the top so they can see how to join up...

so here goes

and thanks all (90ish) members and some really useful ideas already.

Any organisers who haven't joined up, please do. We need you!

Tom

(A few people joined then left again - if this was because you don't like getting emails, please try again and select the web-only option. Then you can dip in only when you feel like it).

Subject: RE: New online forum for club organisers
From: Amos
Date: 13 May 07 - 01:00 PM

Very funny.


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Subject: Forum for club organisers
From: Joe Offer
Date: 30 May 07 - 05:00 AM

refresh